Libertad Ranked - Absolute Peak Balancing

[@Flamuu]

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[@yaseen157]

Sorry guys, I was in a coma for 7 years. I sure hope my favourite game is in a balanced and playable state, what exciting additions did I miss?

[@Not_Laci]

Go back to coma mate 😂

[@scheimong]

Go back to sleep. I don't want to disappoint you.

[@tpark2316]

This game has improved immensely. You missed so much.

[@zxyz5489]

play it and this game will send you right back to coma. but the good thing is, you can still play it while in coma. you missed anything? prob a hammer.

[@bigpoppa1234]

Smolensk, Thunderer, Carrier rework, Submarines, Economy Rework, Captain Rework, Puerto Rico, Forum Shut Down, game split into two dev teams (kinda not their fault though), battle passes, WG buying KOTS, almost every CC being banned or quitting at some point, Hybrid Carriers, Dutch airstrike ships .. all extremely good additions to the game that have not impacted on it's popularity and player base as well

[@ishaanthadani7100]

15+ km secondaries, massive caliber, combat instructions for more damage, range and reload, extremely tanky when angled, better acceleration then brick, faster then bbs with speed boost good secondary angles, and 12 guns, good at broadside. Welcome to the new age

[@5kgBirnen]

Dont forget that schlieffen has to show 56° angle to shoot all secondaries. Libertad has 28° secondaries angles and 23° when kiting.

[@volknetai.3690]

@@5kgBirnen also one less heal and 0.5%/s instead of PA line 0.6%/s. Why Schlieffen need to sacrifices so much durability while this ship do have them

[@axeya366]

As a secondary BB player. My Schliffen is dead in the water now. Struggles hard. Even the Iparanga is like almost if not as strong.

[@milionST]

The future is now, old ____(insert any pre 2024 ship)_____.

[@DrSid42]

Well .. Russia had no navy .. so they need stronk ships. South America had even less navy. So they need even stronker ships. Watch out next year, when they introduce Czechoslovak navy.

[@OlpaahAT]

Mongolian Navy be like

[@CryingPanda]

President Masaryk about to change the meta Tbf Viribus Unitis already breaking tier 5

[@TheTokkin]

South America had actually surprisingly strong navies.

[@thegreenfather1978]

Swiss navy. "It could have been theorized that if lake Geneva were actually a sea connected to the Medittarranean, the Swiss navy might have bought a Yamato class to the Russian who got it as a reparation, and further modernized it by adding 25 torpedo tubes on each side."

[@Arthion]

@@TheTokkin 5 dreadnoughts between Chile, Argentina and Brazil, could've been 7 if Rio de Janeiro/Agincourt wasn't sold or if Chile wanted Almirante Cochrane back after she was turned into HMS Eagle. Argentina, Brazil & Chile are probably the 7th, 8th and 9th most powerful navies by WW2 after the major powers of WW2. Not to mention Almirante Latorre is a veteran of Jutland having served as HMS Canada.

[@btun324]

DD rudder, just what this ship needed

[@jgalena]

Seems like weegee saw that potatoes were struggling in the Wisconsin since that still requires aiming to trigger the funny button. So they gave it the demented charging on potential damage, that way any potato can trigger it when they suicide in.

[@ledichang9708]

You do better when you are kiting though.

[@bernhardlangers778]

WG finally realised that, in order to achieve peak potato catering, aiming would have to be taken out of the hands of the players. After all you can't be disappointed by your poor skills if you don't need any. Just turn it into an idle game where the bots to the paying attention. Why watch a minimap if the game engages every spotted target on its own. Oh and let's reduce the amount of time spent out of action if you decided to go alone to the flank with islands covering any and all firing angles. Because suffering from bad positional skill is not fun. Jesus Christ.

[@the_detinator8682]

The sheer speed/maneuverability of this ship along with the funny button is what is making this ship stupidly powerful. BB armour with Cruiser maneuverability and a funny button that turns your already strong secondaries into god mode.....It's just too much in one. Schlieffen get's the good maneuverability and strong secondaries but it doesn't get the BB level armour, Libertad get's it all plus a funny button....

[@AlekTrev006]

When did WG start introducing the Funny Buttons (as such) into the game - and what was their ‘reason’ for doing it, if you can remember ?

[@hashteraksgage3281]

I think it was with the introduction of superships

[@173muppet]

Flolo's reaction at 18:55 perfectly matched my own. That was the most disgusting matchmaking I've seen in a while.

[@Shadow.24772]

at 17:10 that's a STEEL ship. grind years in this game to get that and here comes the funny button

[@DaylightFan4449]

WG giving everything to the Libby line like: "Now witness the fire *powah* of this fully armed and operational battle station"

[@Bans94]

I've just had the worst day ever. I left the Schlieffen on the front seat of my car and some bastard called Libertad broke in and left two more 😡

[@twinshark429]

"Please angle so my AP shatters..." LOL!

[@A.massaro]

2:28 " Look at me, I'm the Schileffen now "

[@clefsan]

Well, many Nazis allegedly went to South America after WW2. Now we know what they did there: Build Kriegsmarine 2.0 😇

[@adelbertschulz8049]

pikaboo, he is gone......

[@A.massaro]

@@clefsan 😅🤣

[@A.massaro]

@@adelbertschulz8049 To the bottom of the food chain

[@fulgermatei4987]

30mins of Flolo, a true blessing

[@Fackeldackel]

Khaba: How does it feel to have such a good turning circle senior BB? I am just a DD, i dont know 😢

[@clefsan]

You are a CL cosplaying as a DD, Comrade. 🤣 But you are not wrong. 😇

[@jakubslavik5595]

The ship would be fine without the F key and without the commander, even probably without the acceleration, but "nahhh, let's make an OP ship to bait people", WG probably. Just the fact that it's basically a slightly larger Atlantico with more slightly larger guns, better secondaries and that can fire HE, make her perfectly fine. Like why WG, why keep doing this to ships, why not keep them normal. This fckin lazy funny button era is infuriating. If they atleast tried to make them somewhat interesting, like some of the iterations of Victoria seemed interesting, but they chose the most lazy and boring one.

[@deusvult6164]

imo they just hate german bbs and think its funny to powercreep them even more lol

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

the ship would be OP even with no secondaries AT ALL. The manoeuverability and stealth is already an OP factor.

[@ledichang9708]

​​@@matthiasdarrington3271without the bonkers secondary it would be pretty bad, main gun accuracy is atrocious. Sure you can kite in it but it's gonna be super frustrating when your shotgun just flies all over the place.

[@nlb137]

I've only got the t8 but it feels nuts in operations. Better tanking than other secondary BBs (especially the KM BCs, limited DCP in ops sucks when bots have 100% fire chance on their first shell)

[@craigalexander966]

I thought it’s weakness would be no hydro but it turns soo well and once you get commander buff u can chase down almost anything.

[@TheGreatBoomy25]

The secondary ships now are ridiculous. Soon this game will be FULLY automated.

[@shireeeeee]

Great ship, greetings from the best country of Chile 🔥

[@cody8217]

Third World Shithole full of internet Cafe players

[@sinceRENEss]

Every time you think it can´t get worse WG pulls something out the hat..

[@zekaiy.873]

Imagine a country that has 0 knowledge about battleships, overtaking all nations that have built all real legendary ships with a broken tech tree...

[@clmwrx]

Lul. Tis fucked.

[@KHETTIUS]

Nations that were historically naval powers getting power crept by nations that historically were not naval powers!, what a great logical game you have WG!.

[@idonnu7624]

two days ago, i was playing in the ipiranga, i was surrounded by like five ships, two of which were also ipirangas, but one of them was firing HE, the other at a teammate and then right after i had dealt with the HE spamming ipiranga, a destroyer tried sneaking around an island to torp me, problem was: he was withing 2km, so as soon as his ship got exposed on the other side of the island, my secondaries made short work of him *while i wasn't even properly paying attention to him*, my guns were facing the other way to try and deal with the 2nd ipiranga ._. actually a no skill ship

[@restarting_krnl]

So, cruiser rudder, small caliber but 6x2 main bats, 254mm mini-Royal-Nuke secondaries with beyond German BB secondary firing range and with good acc absolute carnage

[@droidmotorola3884]

good secondary guns good accuracy good reload good speed good acceleration good handling good armor good conceal even without the skill good He good turret traverse what happened man...

[@volknetai.3690]

British low tier repair party as well ( 0.6%/s repair ) because god forbid having normal weak-ass repair on BB now

[@aerospacenewsgaming]

Libertad is a fun ship to play but a nightmare to play against. Won't be surprised to see all three new BBs and the captain get nerfed down the road.

[@UnimpressedAussie]

WG: Adds ship under early access that costs a fortune to get. Make sure that it's OP. Soon as it's about to release to everyone nerf it, so that people in future pay the $ for the early access OP ships.

[@eric-wb7gj]

TY 🙏🙏

[@Pittigpiertje]

the turn rate of this ship is just hillarious

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

Libertad has better handling than some freaking dds.. jesus..

[@darekter87]

viva la libertad!

[@ImRandomDude]

secondaries - 68 hits for 34.3k dmg 107 hits for 11.6k dmg. that is 6x more effective, simply wtf

[@marcingrzybek8516]

Another splendid Wargayming design & addition to the game...

[@dovaskostasgr]

31:19 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidblackman1586]

107 hits from Schlieffen secondaries for 11k damage vs your 68 hits for 34k

[@imreallytired1271]

I have done 135k secondary damage in a random battle game while high and watching youtube on my phone. Ship is giga dented

[@sirdancealot2645]

These abominations really need some balancing man. I hope WG knows this time...

[@matthewyang7893]

Burger used to be one of the best battleships at tier ten. FYI

[@anonnymousperson]

Seems good

[@greenuncle]

It's really funny how they're giving away free Schlieffens and releasing this abomination at the same time. A theory I have is that maybe the plan is for all the new Schlieffen players to play against this thing, get destroyed by it, and buy it.

[@SkyRaider-31]

I've noticed those secondaries break very easily. Maybe an effective way to make libertad players mald is to slap em with conkek HE?

[@matthewyang7893]

If you gave Khabarovsk this maneuverability XD

[@Xxxxxxxxxxii1488]

Love the longer vids Ever thought of uploading entire streams? Or Most parts of it? Would be awesome 💙

[@sliceofcheese8360]

I refuse to believe some of these Captin builds exist lol

[@clmwrx]

There are people with only 1 and 2 point skills as well. So weird.

[@clmwrx]

Like they refuse to spend points on higher point skills. Even with 21 point commander

[@clmwrx]

18:51 😂😅

[@davidscoltock3970]

Standard WoWS operating procedure. Bring out a ship in early access that is OP as all hell, get people to buy it. Nerf it when it goes free to play in the tech tree.

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

Schlieffen wasn't OP when it came out.

[@ClayinSWVA]

Racing thru ranked with 8 minute rounds

[@jussi8111]

take me back to the times before cv rework... atleast then the game was in a fixable state

[@garypashley6217]

exactly the reason I quit playing wows, haven’t played in 3 years. I do enjoy flamu’s videos though

[@headlessfool7050]

This Ship is certifiably insane . Are there bets going how long until she gets nerfed ?

[@eggycroissant0778]

Imo los andes is just better than the libertad, better armour scheme, better gun placement, slightly worse secondaries. and it has the least superstructure of the other 2 bb's. it's just better but it's a shame we can't get good T9 cruisers

[@aznfoo]

another reason why i stopped playing any pvp game modes and just stick with operations

[@duncanmackenzie7795]

This game has legit Gacha levels of monetization and balance, and it's only funny if you're not on the inside.

[@BernGrylls]

Funny how the ASW sounds "Any Lady". And I have no idea why the Almirante Tamandaré is talking spanish. He was from Brazil. Should speak portuguese ...

[@vipinnair1991]

They're going to nerf this thing to the ground.

[@FidelisRaven]

Who wants to bet Libertad will get nerfed a month (if not less) after it is released as a tech tree ship? The usual WG moneygrab - make it op in the early access to players spend a shitton of money for a tech tree ship, then nerf it once it is fully released.

[@Tzesar]

i think it may take longer than 1 month to nerf it unless it becomes crystal clear that tehy ruin the random game mode to much. Atm the avg winrate is 56% on EU in it but not many games played in it and mostly th ebetter people are playing it. my guess 4 weeks after its release winrate will be down to the same level as bourgogne which is arround 53% in randoms. Question is if they will nerf it hardcore then or or only slightly. They also have to test the nerfs since you can nerf it in multiple ways, like nerfing maneuverabilty, f key, the heal. also dont forget ST vincent took super long till it got nerfed after its release

[@lameemo]

WG is very clearly overtuning ships to push people into spending dubloons to get them without shame at this point. It feels like they are running out of ideas for new ship and dont know how else to monetize effectively so they are just trying to bleed as much from the whales as possible at the expense of game balance. I would bet money that this whole line is de-tuned after it is fully released

[@Tzesar]

Cassard is pretty balanced so it probably was the reason they pushed the Opness coz tehy saw the sales werent worth it. But i have to say i saw more Cassards while it was early acces than i see now after full release

[@jobanputradarshanilkumar1910]

Guys I am a nevsky main should I run IFHE on it

[@jobanputradarshanilkumar1910]

Plz help me

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

@@jobanputradarshanilkumar1910 yes you should

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

NO you shouldn't. IFHE is ONLY at T8 for 152-155mm guns. Fires on Nevsky are more important than IFHE

[@Ilia_voloshuk]

Only one question. How broken was German's BB, when they come out?

[@matthiasdarrington3271]

they weren't touched so they were in same state as today...

[@syedushherahmad311]

1 minute ago is Overpowered. Just like that ship

[@victorsamuelbaezsouffront9017]

RIP german BBs

[@NemoKeine]

every once in a while i get the urge to maybe reinstall and then WG releases something else that's really dumb and I just say "nah, urge gone"

[@hardkur]

100% that smaland have no RPF but 5% more dps ... and shima lives

[@clefsan]

Damn, this is what I call a ship for the "modern playerbase". You need almost no brain to do well with it.

[@jan-lucakunze6144]

What mod is flamu using that shows commander skills ingame?

[@Tasukete_22]

Aslans modpack

[@gundamzeta3447]

7:13 stop he’s already dead

[@LaserPrinterBW]

The game is going into a powercreep spiral which will kill the game eventually. ATM its on life support but surely WG will do every stupid decision to kill it for good.

[@eiresby2344]

Damn libertad seems broken, wg probably will nerf schlieffen

[@2138Dude]

Lets grab a WW1 ship put it into t10 and give it absolutely jacked stats. Ehh I've decided to sell my account, fk this game this is getting more and more r-t-r-ded

[@P99AT]

Not going to lie, seeing that you're using the DCP mod instead of the secondary mount survivability upgrade is a bit triggering.

[@endorphin1873]

No single reason to play the germans bb's now. The new ships doing everything better..

[@oldschoolgaming4763]

What mod shoes the builds of Teammates?

[@TheReaper-gq8jz]

I havent played this game in over 3 years. Still love the Flamu content tho lol. And my god this game looks shit now.

[@KaiFordham-Brown]

What’s the mod to show captain builds?

[@Jerri64]

15.1 km almost Zao Range XD

[@ma6netho]

nice superduper ship, but high tiers unplayable

[@infeedel7706]

Sad, just sad. Powercreep and OP @ sale prices seems to define WG's ship game, not historicity LOL

[@Apollyon-er4ut]

Can you say B-R-O-K-E-N?🤨🤨

[@Xxxxxxxxxxii1488]

Libertad is the Most broken Shit i have Played W button and angling = 80% auto win in ranked

[@monarchco]

This thing is broken and I love it. I miss when battleships could play like this. With subs, CVs, and super-bb-farmers like smolensk, and everyone else, the game is so damn passive now. Finally, a line meant to push in that isn't underwater or flying in the air. I don't care how broken OP it is, because its the meta shift I need to still give a shit about the game.

[@philosoph3r]

This and Hildebrand is why I uninstalled the game...again.

[@scotty5166]

Seems OP but lets put it in context. Brennus pens 51mm with HE, so can farm you from long range with better ballistics than Henri, Hildebrand spams torpedo planes every 60 seconds, and lets see how it copes with the new CV that has improved angle AP skip bombers, that pen 660, suddenly its not looking so OP, considering you have to push in to get the secondary DPM, making you a target for all of these and more. This ship needs to be as strong as it is to survive and fulfill its role.

[@scotty5166]

Oops forgot to mention subs.

[@Malossianoplus]

Infact its strong only in silver ranked. Gold ranked are pretty much a camping match all nose in near the island. Full os subs and cv. A Libertad pushing in will get demolish in 20 seconds. In random still struggle especially if there is a cv or subs. So cv and subs are much more busted than this thing. And they will nerf the commander and the ship when it will be free.

[@scotty5166]

@@Malossianoplus totally agree

[@Flamuu]

@@Malossianoplus Huh? This is Gold ranked, it's the qualifiers so you're basically playing in gold. Silver ranked is t8-t9. Not that ranks mean anything in wows, but saying it won't work in gold when I'm clearly playing it in gold is funny.

[@Malossianoplus]

@@Flamuu just because u got lucky in mm doesn't mean it's so good. Found a match with a cv and double sub and have fun..

Love this ship. It kicks ass at everything.

[@medstud]

Unicum playing a brawler in a 5v5 vs potatoes with the special captain, what do you expect?

[@cactusman7112]

The game needs more strong close quaters BBs like these to help break the sniping meta of randoms

[@UnimpressedAussie]

requires no skill to play

[@christophersmith9074]

insted of nefing this ship they should buff older ships ie adding the funny Butten to some of the older ships sence they like it so much

[@billh7451]

I don't know why everyone is complaining about this ship. It's nice to have a really good BB that is actually effective at closer ranges rather than sitting 20km+ back lobbing shells.

[@mayonotes9849]

Because this ship is just overpowered as hell. It makes all other secondary BBs look straight up useless. Amazing secondary angles, good reload on them, absurd range and they deal a lot of damage.

[@jimzo1985]

who had the best ships historically .... WG the people who built no ships . who handled their ships the best ....WG the people who didnt build the ships and couldnt pilot a rowboat across a pond . who won the battles ....WG the people who lost all the battles didnt build the ships and if they did couldnt pilot them across a pond . this game is just like wet WOT same exact nonesense . no meaningful new content just a stream of imaginary crap that never ends .

[@kc9937]

What mod lets you see captain skills in match?