Liberty National Z Scale Home Divsion, Big Trains

Follow Amtrak once around the basement layout . Big BNSF and the dueling Empire Builders. All Z SCALE. I started this layout in 2010, sadly, this is the last video of this layout. Shortly after filming the layout was dismantled . The Good News , the new layout is under construction . I set in the first sections of track on Thanksgiving , 2019 . Watch me build this new pike. First train run ? still to be determined . Watch for more, should take years . I would like to have one main line complete by spring 2010.

[@1956tojo]

It's a pleasure seeing works like this... Great job and thanks for sharing.

[@wyomingcowboy2378]

This is awesome! Building large inclines and mountains like that must have been so difficult. Thank you for sharing your amazing creation with us!

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You. Go big or go home is my motto. For even bigger trains check out my new Tehachapi Pass layout.

[@dantehendrix314]

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[@iragary8787]

@Dante Hendrix Instablaster =)

[@dantehendrix314]

@Ira Gary thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and Im in the hacking process atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

[@mvg2x34]

Nice track plan. Nice long runs. Love the Empire Builder!

[@Hereford98]

1st Z scale layout this size I've seen. Totally awesome, fantastic job!

[@tommurphy4307]

is it even finished yet? i guess scenery stuff for Z can be a bitch (and pricey)

[@shaygetz52]

The Z scale product line is quite impressive. I remember Model Railroader magazine's Z project back in the late 1980s, they did all of their American muscle with Marklin made F units...

[@tommurphy4307]

AZL has a lot more american iron now.

[@Mini-Club-Center-Siegen]

Smooth running trains. Very good!

[@ptitrainrouge]

absolutely marvelous layout; very nice to watch.

[@davidgeorge237]

This is an engineering masterpiece. I came late to model railroading in 1999 and built many modules to take the Golden~Blackhawk & Central City around the country to train shows ,,,helped along by many friends. Seeing how wonderfully smooth and controlled your train sets run is a pleasure to watch. Bolting together and unbolting the modules for 64 shows during 18 years on the road did not translate to a perfectly function railroad. Yours is a dream to watch. Thanks for showing this. Cordially, Mister Dave

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You for the nice comment. I am setting up today for a county fair. I have 6 layouts on display for the next 7 days 11 hours per day, It takes a certain passion .

[@tommurphy4307]

the real accomplishment will be to keep it running that way. are you guys tired of track-cleaning yet?

[@hetzel3606]

i'm a bit sad rn and this video helped me, love the scenery, love the trains, love the sound, soothing! Very good, i recommend!

[@robchallis2423]

Superb film of superb layout -thank you

[@hotportugal2786]

Great work Ron. Entertaining and impressive.

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You, working on a new layout now, check that out.

[@TNels]

Very cool layout, thanks for sharing! EDIT: wrote that very early in the video, now I've watched the whole thing. This is absolutely incredible! Fantastic work!

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You, I have completed the scenery now to the other end of the yard, also added lighting and automated signals. Will be on next video.

[@johnnybuss5637]

Thanks for a nice show, and slow and nice driving.

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You . I've found you have to really slow them down to film. At regular running speed trains look like they are going too fast.

[@elwood.downey]

Wonderful to watch, thank you. I'm impressed with how smooth everything runs. I lost interest in trains, mine were always herky-jerky no matter how much I cleaned track and wheels or how many feeders I added.

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You. Z scale does require frequent track cleaning. I have to clean it about every 2 weeks or about 8 hours of running.

[@tommurphy4307]

its all in the oil. we have a smaller Z-scale layout at our club and the bottom line is nobody wants to maintain the track. so its just a display now. the Z scale guys swapped dummies in there so nothing expensive would 'roll away'....

[@tommurphy4307]

adding feeders won't help that problem- the rails are either hot or dead. we use conducting lubricant on our Z layout (when we want to run it which is usually when there are non-club members present)

[@davidbrown4823]

Mind blowing layout for Z scale.

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You. This layout no longer exists. Check out my newest, just completed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpbEeoGBmst2g7csi=6B4YLC5aIAKnqsmC

[@elonmust7470]

Nice work! I like the scrap scetion, that's something I don't see very often.

[@rroadron7970]

That came about on it's own. It started as an engine service facility. The trains are waiting for repairs and the loose parts are in the pile.

[@tommurphy4307]

i like that- right on the pike where it will remind your motor guy of his backlog....

[@elleryparsons5766]

Very nice for Z Scale.

[@lesliefulton9219]

Yeah looking forward to doing my next Z layout, and like you have discovered, it looks so much better with sweeping curves rather than "as tight as it can take". I also did a lot of work with the marklin switches on the last couple of layouts, found out how much they will take with ballast, painting the rails, etc, Found out that you pretty much have to solder in extra jump wires so you don't get shorts on them, and that its a good trick to get some 600 or 400 grit wet and dry sand paper and use it under the working part of the switch (and don't ballast near that area) so it still looks good but doesn't get fouled up in any way. Really like your layout, nice job.

[@rroadron7970]

Thank You for the comments. I give a tremendous amount of credit to the Marklin turnouts for the smooth operation of the trains. I have used all the different available tracks but my go to is Peco SL200. Check out my newest layout recently completed after 4 years. This video is just a small clip. My Largest layout yet, the entire thing is the Tehachapi Pass. Currently filming a complete layout video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpbEeoGBmst2g7csi=6B4YLC5aIAKnqsmC

[@tommurphy4307]

one of the great things about the finer scales is the seriously broad curves you can create in much less space than HO or S. O gauge is humongous in comparison.

[@loulasalle]

Beautiful layout. It is always heart breaking to dismantle a layout. My N svcale layout is stacked up and awaiting a move to NC. Good luck with your new one.

[@rroadron7970]

Thanks Lou, New layout videos are up, Check it out

[@tommurphy4307]

it helps immensely to plan for the tear-down and move when you are building it.

[@natbarr]

Very nice. Absolutely no sound card to simulate train horns etc. looks awesome

[@tommurphy4307]

we don't use sound in our club room- we usually play music or some of the guys like to watch TV. i like the tube, too, but i like to mute the TV and play jazz. when there are visitors, some of the guys like to show off their sound.

[@kennztube]

Fantastic layout.

[@ewoodrailway]

Superb watching

[@joestrainworldvideos3977]

Great layout 👌. Super too see how you get thin done in Z. I subscribed. Joe

[@rroadron7970]

Thanks Joe for the nice comments and for sub. This is my 2nd of 3 large Z layouts I own. Check out my new 12-25-20 video. I am at this moment working on a Tehachapi Loop section of the new layout. Just cut the wood for sub roadbed today.

[@scotabot7826]

Really cool. I had no idea Z scale had advanced so much. Can you get DCC sound in these models yet? Do they make a speaker small enough to fit in these Z scale locomotives?

[@rroadron7970]

I saw a video of a challenger with sound from azl 2011 national show. About 25 years ago we laughed at the idea of sound in N scale.

[@Mini-Club-Center-Siegen]

I don´t know if they have it for US models, but for German models you can get speaker. Steam locos or diesel locos are possible. So i guess you can find the speaker also for US locos.

[@elleryparsons2433]

Sometimes it’s Hard to tell which was z And N Scale I am Gonna stick to My N Scale first I had Ho liked it Then I was Thinking What If I went N Scale pow! I went To N and I am Not sorry I did that now My Wife and I are Ho And N Scale Now and We Love It.

[@tommurphy4307]

Bestar makes 13mm round and i think 8mm X 12mm oval micro-speakers, they actually sound pretty good as a couple of our guys use them in their Z power units.

[@glenngogoll6166]

Man, you’ve got some huge collection of equipment, crossing all eras. Do you get your trains from a particular supplier? Ive Googled Z scale starter sets & been bombarded with N scale adverts. I live in remote Australia, so any purchases would be mail order. Id like to get started, any suggestions?

[@willvolny5343]

Wow!

[@rookie1525]

greetings from germany! really cool made

[@miniclub-fan4510]

Unbelievable, compliments!

[@elleryparsons2433]

Very Nice layout.

[@sergioarroyoguerrero5434]

The Z scale train layout in home . Great worlk .

[@rroadron7970]

Thanks, my home layout. Still one more, check out my newest Tehachapi Pass layout, new scenery update coming soon.

[@norbertdx]

I'm just guessing if you went dcc, can you make the chips that small?

[@rroadron7970]

do you meam chips? as in decoders. DCC is available but without sound. I am a DCC beleiver but without sound I don't see the point . I like my bg dispatcher board. I do run dcc in N and HO.

[@tommurphy4307]

@@rroadron7970 no- you don't want to deal with that- especially if you don't like cleaning wheels and rail heads- and its worse with digital control.

[@ArchTeryx00]

Quite a lot of scenic work for a Z-scale layout,a nd making scenes for a scale this small is not an easy task! I am curious why you didn't weather the cars and engines, though - is Z-scale not conductive to weathering, or is just a project for a later time?

[@tommurphy4307]

a lot of guys don't weather their stuff, but if you model SP- you almost HAVE to make stuff look GRUBBY

[@z220bahner]

Großartig. Klasse Anlage.

[@paulmavric887]

Awesome layout

[@rroadron7970]

Thank you. This is my second out of three large Z layouts I own. Check out updates on my Tehachapi pass layout. I just finished scenery on the Tehachapi Loop section, new update video coming soon.

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

On level track, how many wagons can you pull with a single locomotive? Is it more or less than for 1:160?

[@tommurphy4307]

its always going to be less as you move to smaller scales.

[@mysticrailroad]

this layout is sweet.

[@FirstnameLastname-tp4zw]

Can you run 100 car trains in Z scale?

[@rroadron7970]

Yes. When I first built this layout it was designed for the 100 car train. I had a video but at the time KZbin was not a thing so I posted it on Facebook.

[@tommurphy4307]

you can run 100-car trains in any scale as long as you have the power (both in loco AND track power) and the traction.

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

In your experience, are derailments more frequent in 1:220 than in 1:160?

[@rroadron7970]

Derailments are rare. Almost always operator (me) error.🙂

[@tommurphy4307]

its all about wheel flanges and contours- if the flanges are to scale- then there shouldn't be much difference in the frequency of derailments. i would say more n-scalers are running low-pro wheels- so put that in your grinder and see what comes out.

[@roryblake7311]

Wow.

[@pamgalloway3766]

this is so cool no thumb down. and sub

[@jcpcustomparts]

great

[@elleryparsons5766]

You Only Dc Or Dcc As well?

[@rroadron7970]

all DC

[@rroadron7970]

new video is up kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpbEeoGBmst2g7c

[@davidgoldsmith756]

you need people and animals

[@tommurphy4307]

expensive and HTF stuff.