Liberty’s Liberty with our 4th Amendment

In light of Liberty Safes, recent dealings with the FBI, what can gun owners do to prevent this from happening to them?
Note: I misspoke about the ESL10. On the ESL10 electronic lock, you can’t change the manager reset code. The best option in this case, would be to just swap locks with a different ESL 10.

[@lizzapaolia959]

Your a stand up guy. Not many people have such strong morals. God bless you and your family 🙏

[@wallacemcdaniel9706]

Aaron, when I close the door on my American Security safe and hear that satisfying “chunk” sound, I really appreciate your expertise and patience when visiting your shop to see this safe. A year later, we still believe it was a really smart purchase.

[@vanillagorilla9841]

The problem in most peoples eyes is the search warrant for the guy, whether it was legit or frivolous was for the guys person and property and was legit for that reason but it does not extend past that and certainly not to the company of Liberty Safes to become involved. Had the FBI obtained a court ordered subpoena for the safe codes to that particular safe, then it would have been a legitimate transaction. However, whether they got a phone call from agents on the scene or through emails and Liberty just rolled over without question is what we as private citizens have a huge issue with.

[@msmith6401]

Thanks Aaron, I appreciate the information

[@billyingram5394]

Liberty may not go bankrupt but they are certainly about to learn a very valuable lesson for sure sue to this crap especially since they didn’t even have a warrant to search the safe which is required by the law

[@billyingram5394]

I 300% agree with you on this and this is exactly why I asked you the question I did

[@danielb1877]

Been looking for a safe for years. Will definitely add your safes to that list. I appreciate your very American, liberty-minded views sir.

[@DR-zj4od]

I just purchased a Liberty Safe now I wish I had not.

[@StevenSmith-pt8rz]

Bought one in 2021. I know the feeling. Liberty’s act shows a total lack of integrity and respect for their customers.

[@penniesfromheaven2511]

Great video Mr Parker, let’s hope you’re right about other companies doing the right thing. I have a Champion Triumph (2017) with the e-lock, I’ll be emailing them tomorrow to see what their policy is. Worse case scenario, I’ll hire a safe tech to swap it out to mechanical. Thanks for some answers 👍

[@11B30Inf]

What make this worst is that Liberty Safe is owned by Monomoy Capital Partners since 2021. This Company contribute to many Anti-gun Democrat politicians. Roughly $400,000, over the last 10 cycles of max donations, to Democrats like: Raphael Warnock in GA, John Fetterman in PA, Mandela Barnes in WI, and Mark Kelly in AZ.

[@hoppermantis7615]

It's better to buy a Parker safe. Veteran owned. With a government can kick rocks testimony. They won't betray your trust like liberty.

[@MaximusXXX77]

Makes even more sense now. They clearly don't respect people's privacy, nor their Constitutional rights!

[@gishgishgish]

If I own a jewelry store and sell a customer a $100,000 necklace, and so happen to take their information for warranty, customer relation, and other issues, I don't see why even under court order any reason why I should be required to release information about my clientele. The very practice discourages customers from voluntarily leaving their info and in turn hinders my business. The same goes for safe stores.

[@billgoodwin8742]

Mechanical locks are more time consuming, but I think they are more secure.

[@DeKat-84]

They are more time consuming, but they don't have batteries that need replacing or circuitry that could go wrong, or any number of features that we don't know about programmed into them for use at a later date.

[@StevenSmith-pt8rz]

Mechanical is also not affected by EMP. Which would affectively fry the circuits and cause you not to be able to open the safe. As for me I have a appointment with a safe locksmith to pull the electronic lock out and install a mechanical in my Liberty. I will not purchase from them again and will warn all my friends not to. End of Comment.

[@nicknitro4420]

Several legal experts said Liberty Safe was under no obligation to hand over the code because the safe was not company property and the company was not the target of the search warrant.

[@user-wm9ux9kf6d]

Can’t recommend Parker safes and vaults enough. I’ve purchased two from them and they were very helpful and professional. They did a great job on the installs too (even came back to move one because I wanted it in a different spot.

[@roberthughes2665]

FBI has a reputation of "losing" anything of value they find.

[@lizzapaolia959]

Very few Liberty Safes are difficult to open. Would be interesting to know what model it was. Law enforcement agencies also have various tools to open high security safes. Thanks for sharing this video.

[@Whizzo333]

Never Ever buy Liberty. Never. 👌

[@superdutyohv3401]

It’s a damn shame that we have to be more worried about our government agencies coming for our safes than burglars/criminals.

[@KnivesSurvival]

Wasn't that always the case?

[@famousamoso7]

I mean if youre not doing criminal stuff (not getting in to jan 6th stuff) then you shouldnt have any worries

[@KnivesSurvival]

@@famousamoso7 Soon everyday is going to be Jan 6th. You think shitts going to get better?

[@hammer9390]

@famousamoso7 It appears that you have drank the kool-aid and swallowed the Leftist Liberal propaganda on Jan 6. Don't Drink the Kool-aid.

[@frankpaws]

Liberty just put them selves up for a discounted sale.

[@billyingram5394]

Liberty should have said no especially since they didn’t have a search warrant and even if they did they still shouldn’t have did this because that is the freedom of American citizens and the American business owners

[@evisceratednation]

I think liberty safe deserves a class action lawsuit.

[@michael-si9xs]

I was just thinking the same thing, if someone starts class action lawsuit, I hope it go's viral, and anybody with a Liberty safe, including myself will get involved, I will be contacting them soon.

[@rbm6184]

Liberty’s Liberty with our 4th Amendment Their liberty with our 5th Amendment private property rights also. Not just 4th Amendment privacy.

[@DeKat-84]

This isn't just a concern in the USA. I'm in the UK and bought a mechanical lock that specifically comes with a change key. Once it's changed there's no serial numbers or any backdoors. It's a mechanical dial combination that is unique and only I know. It's irritating that this is something we have to think about.

[@scbane]

Hello from the USA. Would you mind telling me what lock that is? Definitely interested.

[@DeKat-84]

@@scbane I just re-read what I wrote, and it does have a serial number but its on the back of the lock. Although if you're changing a dial combination lock, none of them have "master codes" so once you change it, only you know the only functional combination. It's a A Chubb Manifoil Mark IV.

[@bobdole7701]

Liberty should not have said yes or no.The third option would have been proper.HUNG UP THE PHONE!

[@KnivesSurvival]

I am Really pissed of at this whole situation . I have shot off a email to my same manufacture and am waiting a response.

[@StevenSmith-pt8rz]

Don’t hold your breath!

[@truthsearcherforever3211]

Boycott them

[@hyw079]

I'm Law Enforcement and I totally agree with everything you say here. Most if not all LEO agree with you. Keep up the good fight. I'll be in town in November and I'll make time to stop by and check out to shop. We have friends down the road at Green Dot Farm.

[@hoppermantis7615]

It's better to buy a Parker safe. Veteran owned. With a government can kick rocks testimony. They won't betray your trust like liberty.

[@parkerssafes]

Love to have ya swing by. Thanks for your service.

[@empoweryou1]

It's entirely possible that other safe companies have been quietly doing the same thing as Liberty. I would imagine there's a bunch of closed door meetings occurring at many of Liberty's competitors right now.

[@parkerssafes]

It's possible and you are right. I bet some companies are busy right now rewriting their policies.

[@famousamoso7]

if its a digital safe then you can bet for customer support there is a back door. All you have to do is google forgot code to "Acme" safe and it will take you to their site where they offer you access via the backdoor code.

[@krazyphucker369]

Any electronic lock has an engineering level code to bypass also you can just pop it off and connect a few wires your in as well better off with the mechanical lock at least make them work for it a little bit!!!

[@carlpaladino427]

Need to look deeper into the story. There was a lot to do with the liberal parent company donating to anti gun democrats and especially ones involved in helping them with laws and tariffs. Lots of intriguing things involved here.

[@anthonyn.3575]

What do you think about Visalia/Kodiak safes? Maybe older model (not sure if they’re even made anymore) but made with 1/4” steel plate all 6 sides

[@parkerssafes]

I've only seen one Visalia and it was pretty cool. Kodiak is an imported safe from Rhino and is entry level.

[@91rss]

In this case where there was no relationship to one attending a gathering and why they need to look in a gun safe. Thats a clue on how weak the reasoning is.Then we find out that the company donated 100's of thousands to Democrat candidates, Companies can divest themselves of codes to an overseas entity and solve it. Cruise lines to big tool companies are registered offshore BTW. So no one can sue them or go after them.

[@Scott0000]

Can you show an E-Lock being swapped out for a mechanical lock? For example, swapping a Liberty E-Lock out for an S&G mechanical? Or do the two mount differently? Also. S&G has a great video on how to reset the combo on a mechanical. The video is like 11 years old, but its very easy to understand and very detailed.

[@parkerssafes]

It's a bit of a job. The bolt pattern should be the same but there are some areas where it can be difficult. I would recommend hiring a professional for that.

[@maddoxinc1642]

Liberty Safe just had their Bud Lite moment. Their safes mare trash IMO.

[@ZZTOPGUY1]

I’m really interested to see the mechanical combo change video. Is it a standard sequence across most safe manufacturers?

[@parkerssafes]

I'm working on it sharp dressed man!

[@DeKat-84]

With mechanical change keys it's pretty similar but not EXACTLY the same. I would suggest looking up the method specifically for your make and model of lock. Different companies have slightly different change keys too. So I would suggest looking up the technique and specific change key for your specific lock.

[@moderngrub1876]

@@parkerssafes that is a amazing reply

[@parkerssafes]

It's up

[@chago102]

What good safes do you recommend how are the stealth safe any good ?

[@spartanj2957]

Hunter and the big guy are safe from the FBI and the rest.

[@firstjohn3123]

Our Liberty is not safe with them though...

[@spartanj2957]

@@firstjohn3123 yup,I knew that as soon as he entered politics decades ago.

[@billyingram5394]

How does changing the actual locking mechanism out work to solve this because it have heard that this is where on the electronic locks that the code is stored?

[@famousamoso7]

It ONLY works if that new locking mechanism isnt registered to that company under your name. I would also suggest removing any serial #'s and or storing them elsewhere that way nobody can use it to contact that company. Generally though you buy a safe and register it with the company in case of warranty issues ect so there is always a trail linked to you.

[@allenwilson6585]

I need an aftermarket digital panel for my liberty safe that liberty can not give away the combo

[@parkerssafes]

Chat with your local safe tech or locksmith. They should be able to help.

[@F12Mahon]

558 miles from my door to yours. I don't think I'm in your service area! 😁

[@parkerssafes]

You could fly us out. We prefer smaller jets with little round windows. I'll get my tools ready.

[@F12Mahon]

@@parkerssafes LOL

[@fi2ks]

Watch, the standard for freedom launcher safes become impenetrable without the combo.

[@billyingram5394]

Man this is the excuses question that I just related to when I asked you a question 10 minutes ago man

[@donjuan4933]

Overall as a consumer in the market for a safe, which type lock (combination vs Electronic) would you recommend irregardless of the situation with liberty? Is one more reliable than the other etc?

[@parkerssafes]

I like a mechanical lock. They just seem more reliable long term.

[@Garren.B]

Great video - thank you! I’m going to trash my Liberty safe. What brand do you recommend as a replacement?

[@parkerssafes]

American Security

[@Garren.B]

@@parkerssafes THANK YOU!

[@CRA677]

Early on in your video you mentioned changing the super code for electronic locks. Would you mind sharing how this is done? (I have a AMSEC TL-15 with an ESL-10). Thank you!

[@parkerssafes]

As stated in the notes, I misspoke. That can't be changed. The best option would be to swap the lock out.

[@CRA677]

@@parkerssafes I"m sorry. I missed that. Thanks for your response, and for the videos.

[@edlomonaco]

Hide your safe...if they can't find it, they can't open it.

[@parkerssafes]

Perhaps but the FBI is trained to find things and stuff.

[@edlomonaco]

@@parkerssafes you telling me you can't hide a safe where they can't find it?

[@parkerguy3601]

The fbi can't find hunter's laptop.

[@edlomonaco]

@@parkerguy3601 my point...kinda.

[@jimmieblue6262]

If you have a electronic safe change out the lock with old school lock modification.

[@fretworkpeddler]

Where can I get a change key for my ( I hate to say it ) Liberty Colonial safe.

[@parkerssafes]

You can search online. I think they're on Amazon

[@bheckner]

Liberty fell into it face-first. Poop on da face.

[@joeking1722]

Iron man safes don't keep the combination on record. You have to get a lock smith.

[@deanl2427]

Thank you for the video and explanation Aaron. This reinforces my total satisfaction for purchasing my safe from you. I will immediately remove my serial numbers from the two locations you mentioned. A few questions.... 1. Can/should I change the master code on my electronic lock? 2. Would you, still recommend changing the lock to mechanical? I do enjoy the convenience of the electronic, but I want to do what is best with our current situation in this teetering great country. Unfortunately, we are law abiding citizens living under a corrupt and tyrannical government!

[@parkerssafes]

I don't think I'd go to extremes yet. I think most companies including Liberty will be reevaluating their policies and it will end in favor of the 4th.

[@famousamoso7]

If your lock allows you to change it then yes. Just keep in mind that there is no backup should you forget it or your normal code glitch or you die.

[@overwatch2671]

Take these electronic locks off of your safes. Dial type locks are much better. Change your combo the minute you get it.

[@sky173]

'You will own nothing and be happy' - today's government

[@jeremyasher4366]

what does the key in the front on the dial for?

[@parkerssafes]

It's just a day use feature. It's not an override.

[@jeremyasher4366]

What is a day use feature?@@parkerssafes

[@justinkase1360]

CEO would not go to jail. You DO NOT have to comply with a law enforcement REQUEST! There was NO LEGAL THREAT TO LIBERTY! They simply rolled over at the absolutely first opportunity. Now, if Liberty was legally required to give the combo, THROUGH SUBPOENA then we would understand.

[@parkerssafes]

Agreed. I was just saying that imagine if they had cone to jail.

[@justinkase1360]

@@parkerssafes Oh, I agree, would be a huge sales boost lol.

[@fakerfake1]

What kinda gets me upset is that liberty uses pretty thin and soft steel, so the fbi could have just cut through it with an angle grinder rather then ask liberty for the combo.

[@famousamoso7]

I mean thats the bigger issue. Because regardless if Liberty provided the code the FBI was getting in the safe

[@ssu7653]

@@famousamoso7 To much effort to get the paperwork done, you think they want to grind it open? If they had a legal right to open that safe, the paperwork was a formality and still to much work...

[@robmack151]

Black Scout Survival on YT just recommended you and your product. Read your personal Statement, and thats why i am here. Why im going to promote you and this video. God Bless you and yours.

[@parkerssafes]

God bless you too! Thank you.

[@turdferguson2839]

Let's be honest, you shouldn't buy a liberty safe because they're cheap junk.

[@wannabecarguy]

I have a cheap safe. Because I would never use someone else's locking mechanism. I added my own custom lock. Why would someone get an electronic lock either?

[@johnnytyler5685]

The problem is that the vast majority of safes ARE ALL "cheap junk". Any "safe" you are going to buy at your local sporting goods store is "cheap junk". To buy a LEGIT "safe", and one that holds a decently large number of guns, you are talking well over $10,000. Even over $20,000. Something like Graffunder's "Bishop"-level safes, which have solid 1/2" thick steel outer doors, are about $14,000 for an average-sized gun safe. To me, "average-sized" is a safe that has one side that holds long guns, the other side has shelves that can be converted to hold long guns if you want, and then another shelf or two on top. How many people do you know who are going to spend $14,000 for a gun safe? One that, in reality, only holds a few guns? Not many. As you increase in security...up to something that has a 1.5" solid steel outer door...and size, you are going to be over the $20,000 mark.

[@ChristianConstitutionalist3192]

I Don't Know About The Cheap Junk Part, But Another Reason Not To Support Liberal Safe Is Because The CEO Has Donated To Anti-2A Politicians.

[@hoppermantis7615]

It's better to buy a Parker safe. Veteran owned. With a government can kick rocks testimony. They won't betray your trust like liberty.

[@Soravia]

​@@wannabecarguyelectronic can have master and reset codes over written from what factory put in. Mechanical locks can also have factory reset, too. No difference

[@justinkase1360]

Electronic locks were NEVER a good idea.

[@scbane]

Edit: personally, I doubt Liberty is going to survive this. They will have to rebrand and try again. Conservatives are sick of betrayal. I will definitely buy from you in the future. I am sorry for the inconvenience this Liberty thing will cause you. You should probably invest in aftermarket mechanical locks, and hold workshops showing people how to change them out.

[@proudbirther1998]

They shouldn't survive as a WOLF IN 2A clothing Company! REBRANDING only means that THE WOLVES AND SERPENTS put on a new disguise to fool the 2A sheeple. This was a good thing because it might wake up some very naive 2A sheeple THAT PRETTY MUCH every COMPANY saying they are pro 2A will sell out their customers once this tyrancial Govt and Corrupt Legal systems puts their balls in their legal vise.

[@THOMASDRELICH]

If i owned a safe store I would simply stop selling Liberty safes. Apparently they are owned by a liberal company monomoy capital.

[@spartanj2957]

You can contact the maker and prove you identity have ser.number they will send you a request to DELEAT the s number in their records and they say they will DELEAT it from their system.

[@firstjohn3123]

But it still exists on the ROM chip inside the digital lock...the "delete" option was only devised AFTER the bad press as a response, and it only deletes the company's record. High probability that the actual digital lock manufacturer still has one as well.

[@spartanj2957]

@@firstjohn3123 yes that gos for the manipulation lock too,that's why you should get a change key and or dump the digital.

[@aquatrax123]

The fbi and liberty safe did that guy a favor. If they did not have the combo the fbi would have just drilled the lock out. A safe just buys you time and the fbi has all the time they need to open your safe. Let’s be realistic, these are all rsc safes. We’re not talking high security here.

[@parkerssafes]

Okay. Sure. But the fact is the FBI didn't have a warrant for the safe and Liberty simply gave it to them. That's the part people are fired up about.

[@kbennett531]

Boycott liberty

[@Rockjock007]

Odd how people keep missing the fact that a warrant was issued so had this idiot who is making the video been given the same request he of course would have done the same thing. So can anyone here explain to me what the issue really is? A warrant is issued for a search and they get to the safe and the owner does not comply. there are a few options. You destroy the safe by opening it, OR you hire a locksmith to get into the safe OR you request the combination. Lawful order was given. Other than to say my safe is better than your safe what is the point of this video?

[@parkerssafes]

I disagree sir. Our 4th amendment states that the warrant has to "particularly describe the place to be searched and the person or item to be seized". In this case, there was no specific mention on the warrant addressing Liberty Safe as a company or the safe itself. The FBI simply requested that LIBERTY give them the code and LIBERTY did. The fact that the FBI would have gotten into the safe one way or another is irrelevant. I agree that we should comply with law enforcement and warrants of course, but accordingly, the warrant should be properly issued. It's basically like this, just having a warrant doesn't give law enforcement free reign to search wherever they want for whatever they want or mandate help from outside sources. The warrant has to describe precisely what is being seized AND the location to be searched. Here's a simple example. If a warrant describes a bicycle as the thing to be seized and a house as the place to to be searched, then when they execute the warrant, they shouldn't be looking in the kitchen drawer where a bicycle wouldn't fit. That would be "unreasonable" and would violate one's 4th amendment rights. We have such rights to protect our stuff. I wouldn't be so quick to give up these rights just because some agency so asks or waives a piece of paper in our faces. Make them do their leg work and go through the proper channels. These agencies overreach at every turn as We the People remain silent most probably because we don't really know our rights. Here's the narrative... THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS AND EFFECTS SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, AND NO WARRANT SHALL ISSUE BUT UPON PROBABLE CAUSE, SUPPORTED BY OATH OR AFFIRMATION, AND PARTICULARLY DESCRIBING THE PLACE TO BE SEARCHED AND THE PERSONS OR THINGS TO BE SEIZED. -United States Constitution, Bill of Rights, 4TH Amendment. I hope that helps shed some light on this idiots' video.

[@StevenSmith-pt8rz]

Parker safes3301 stated it perfectly. No need to say more.

[@tuomasholo]

My father forgot his Liberty Safe combo due to his dementia so naturally I contacted the FBI support with the model number and within several minutes got the combo. Thank you FBI.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

Really, I doubt your story as FBI wouldn't do it under those circumstances. Before you try to deceieve consider world building.

[@MrSiestaFiesta]

I was following along until he started simping for Liberty Safes... You can see why they did it? WTF is wrong with you?

[@parkerssafes]

What's wrong with me? Let me grab the list real quick from my wife... Look, I'm just saying that it'd be fairly easy to be intimidated by the FBI. Look at what they're doing to Trump and the Jan 6 attendees. I just try to look at things through angles other than hindsight sometimes. Thanks for the comment though and I get what your saying.