Liberty Safe Gives FBI Combination. Who Else Has Your Safe Code & How to Protect Yourself

Libert safe gave a customer's safe combination the the FBI. But who else knows your safe combination?
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I'd like to reiterate, safe companies do not just give out codes to people who call and ask.
Liberty did NOT do this. Liberty safe provided a code to law enforcement with a legal right to search the safe (a search warrant).
Safe manufactures use locksmith, in most cases, to verify ownership and identity of persons seeking override codes.
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[@sherlock1895]

When I bought my Champion safe i elected NOT to buy one with the electronic lock. I just didn’t feel comfortable with the electronics involved. Mechanical locks are the best choice. I never did see the benefit of an electronic lock. Cheers!

[@ffforazon]

Honestly mechanical is more reliable in the long run. I dealt with 50 times as many electronic lock lockouts than mechanical. Mechanical tends to start getting difficult to open when something (usually lack of maintenance related) starts to go wrong, giving ample warning. The electronic ones just die eventually. That said, we sold a lot of electronic locks because for someone going into it multiple times a day they're much faster and easier to use. Electronic locks, the high end ones with auditing and multiple users, are much much better for a bank because when Sally decides to quit you don't have a crisis requiring a someone to come out and change a mechanical combination. A master user can just delete the user. For a gun safe in your home? I'd go mechanical.

[@NFK2Killer]

I never liked digital locks, this just confirms it.

[@jamint5ky507]

Who buys a gun sale? A gun owner. Who keeps a customer list? People that sell safes. The government now has access to a list of people that own guns. That's a backdoor for gun registration.

[@ferngrows6740]

Some fellas I know have bought a commercial grade lockable tool chest that normally are used on construction sites for their home use. It's true that they certainly don't have all the features of a gun safe - fireproofing and portability for example, but you can't do much better for anonymity. Not a perfect solution by any means but there you go.

[@kenofken9458]

Plenty of people buy safes for things like bullion and other valuables too. It really wouldn't be that hard at all for the government to figure out who has guns if they really wanted to, between credit card databases, stuff posted to social media, browsing habits, geolocation data from the cell phone everyone carries at all times. Probably even just sophisticated analysis of metadata could come up with a highly predictive profile of who is likely to have guns at home.

[@sgt84bravo40]

That is a sobering thought.

[@Joker-fx6mh]

Just because I buy a gun safe doesn’t mean I have guns 😁

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

They now what you have especially if you have purchased a gun since 2017

[@skalagrim99]

Buy a safe with a mechanical lock and change the combination when you buy it.

[@overwatch2671]

I bought my first safe back in 1990. I still own that safe. An ole browning. No one has that combo but me. Its my backup safe. August of 22 i bought a liberal safe. Ordered it online. Didn’t get that safe till june. Luckily my local locksmith was a liberty dealer. Had them change the electronic lock to a manual dial type lock at no extra charge when they delivered it. I put my own combo in the lock. Manual locks mean. Peace of mind. Neither of my two safes are in the same place.

[@kyleharris3]

They say they'll remove your info.. but I'm 100% sure they keep it.

[@ourkentuckyhome771]

If the government gains access to your home, it doesn't matter what safe you have, they are going to get in it one way or another. Had that been a mechanical lock, the safe would be destroyed. However I would never do business with a company if I thought they would sell me out, including Liberty

[@turkwendell6904]

I don't think they sold the guy out I think they had a subpoena this wasn't just a random search I believe they legally entered

[@NorthernChev]

/facepalm. Ladies and gentlemen, Paranoid Conspiracy Nutcase has entered the Comment Section... Dude, Liberty was handed a legal subpoena for search and seizure of that code. They had to follow ALL the laws and procedures EXACTLY as the Law requires before executing the search. Don't add to the dumbassery this nation is suffering from right now.

[@rockyfesta5099]

By having the name of the safe company on the front of it makes it easy to identify the manufacturer and getting access to the combination. Remove the name of the manufacturer! Won't cost you anything

[@Jaydog555]

What about a preparatory serial number?

[@electraglideclyde]

@@Jaydog555 The serial number is inside on the door jamb.

[@garycalahan5102]

By filling out and submitting this form Liberty will cancel any and all warranties on your lock, which is not clearly communicated on this form. For those folks who bought an extended warranty from Liberty of either 10 years or lifetime will have to fight Liberty for a refund of said extended warranty.

[@cal30m1]

So now I’m gonna trust that Liberty is gonna not keep any back door codes after I send in my cereal box tops? Yeah right….

[@libbyd1001]

On many videos like this (including this one), I see comments against electronic locks, but favoring mechanical locks. It makes no difference. Liberty safe, in the owner's manual, clearly states in two sections - at least two sections in my manual, that it maintains a database of the lock's combination matched to the safe's serial number. It doesn't matter what kind of lock you have on it. The reason they give is because they are frequently called upon to help safe owners who lock themselves out of the safe. No "secret, backdoor code" is required. Change your combination yourself and no one else will know it. What I find much more disturbing, are reports of Liberty safe donating loads of money to politicians who are anti-2A. I do not know if that is true, but it sounds convincing so far.

[@turkwendell6904]

They probably are going to sell out because it's best for their business and their family

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

A manual dial combination lock can only have one combination at a time and they are set the day they are installed by the locksmith who has you pick your combination, they do not write down the combination so you will be the only one who knows it. It is electronic locks that have multiple access codes. So the combination set in the manual dial combination lock from the factory will no longer work once the combination has been reset by the locksmith that you picked.

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

All you have to do is purchase the manual dial combination lock from S+G and none of this happens, it is lazy people who did not want to spin a dial that bought safes with electronic locks. A dial combination lock can only have one combination at at time and any honest locksmith will set the combination you select the day they install the safe and they will not write down the combination so that only you and who ever else you want to have the combination will have it. I have news for you all the big safe manufactures have at one time or another assisted law enforcement, I am a retired law enforcement officer that put in 25 years, you would be surprised at how companies of all types assist law enforcement. Fort Knox, Cannon, Champion, American Security you name them have assisted law enforcement at some time or another. I know facts are a real you know what.

[@ragnarredbeard4652]

Unless there was a warrant specifically listing Liberty as a party to the warrant, Liberty should have told the FBI to pound sand. Agencies do this all the time: "give us what we want or we'll get a warrant". Fine, get a warrant. The reason agencies try to back door it is because they either can't get a warrant or don't want to the work to get one. Make them work for it.

[@starhawke380]

I agree that the feds should have gotten a specific warrant to get the code from Liberty, but realistically, that warrant was a phone call away for them and would have taken an hour to obtain, at most.

[@ragnarredbeard4652]

@@starhawke380 You can challenge a warrant in court. You can't challenge a phone call. It will take a lot longer than an hour to get another warrant and it will take several days to do anything with it when it gets challenged in court. FBI could hire a guy with a drill to get in the safe long before the warrant is fulfilled.

[@johnvesper989]

Had liberty not provided access, the FBI, who had a warrant for the safe, would have merely used a saw, torch, explosives or Whatever else suited their fancy, to Crack it.

[@ragnarredbeard4652]

@@johnvesper989 Yes, and thats the whole point of what I'm saying. Liberty just gave up any court challenge to a warrant involving safe combos moving forward. Thats bad, really bad, for the industry and gun owners as a whole. Thanks Liberty. The FBI didn't need Liberty to give them the combo. They have locksmiths either contractually or gov employed to open safes any time they need it done. The FBI used Liberty to set the precedent and Liberty rolled over. Thanks Liberty.

[@Graygeezer]

If they have a warrant and don’t have a combination, they’ll drill or cut right in.

[@maximumwoof8662]

if an analog dial lock, after changing the combination - with the safe door in the open position, spin the combination dial to a locked state and try the combination ae least 3 times - starting the first time with 1/2 a number low, the second time with 1/2alf a number high, and the third time with the combination spot on and that will tell you two things - that the lock is within manufacturer specs and that you set the combination correctly, now you can have confidence that you won't have a lockout condirion.

[@skeletonmakesgood]

That's excellent advice!

[@rickstreifel4691]

Remove the keypad from the safe. Remove the sticker with the serial number and discard. Replace the keypad. Done.

[@228vincent]

You shouldnt have to go through that process for YOUR property. Apple doesnt give crap out, and they are part of the CCP.

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

Everybody knows about user codes and master codes, but we are now learning about the management codes, sort of master master codes that lock manufacturers have installed in their locks. I put in a new, never-coded S&G electronic lock on my gun safe and put in a new all codes, even the management code, so that NOBODY, not the distributor, not Liberty Safe, and not even S&G has a combination now, only my hand-picked designees.

[@rsbreeze]

Super Master can't be defeated.......gotta go dial!

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

@@rsbreeze Dial is too slow for me.

[@robdog7516]

Wrong. Liberty gave them the code without a real search warrant for THE SAFE. You want to stop this? Use a mechanical locking safe, not a digital one. Keep your code in a safety deposit box or somewhere safe

[@ffforazon]

I'm going to take exception with the claim at 3:02. There are digital locks where no override or factory reset code is available. I am a little baffled by his claim you can't use a digital lock and be secure unless he's trying to get some business (which I doubt) or misinformed. Maybe he just mis-spoke? That's a strange claim for someone who does this for a living. Maybe he meant to say a new digital lock from that same safe manufacturer wouldn't be secure but I sold and installed a ton of electronic locks over the years that you cannot call the manufacturer and get a reset/lock code from.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

If you want an electronic lock without an override code nowadays you're going to be getting some off name, inexpensive brand sold online from someone who ships direct from overseas . All the major lock manufacturers, at least that I am aware of, have and have had for some time reset codes. Educate me though. If you know of one that doesn't that would be great information to share. 👍

[@Leslie-es5ij]

Always said, never put anything in your safe you don't want the government to find.

[@famousamoso7]

You dont have to swap the digital for dial simply to stop the override. If you havnt registered the safe with the manufacturer you can just remove the serial #'s. No serials no way to get back door code. Or you can swap out for new digital lock and again remove any serial #'s.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

It's an idea that I hadn't thought of. Remove the serial number from the safe and the serial number from the lock. Drawback, you're going to lose all warranty on it.

[@famousamoso7]

@@LocksmithRecommended Wouldnt you void the warranty regardless if you swapped out for a dial? Conversely... many companies have the serial # in several locations (inside and outside the safe). So you can remove it from the outside access while still retaining it on the inside should you need to make a warranty claim. Also you can remove the sticker and store it in a secure place in case you do have issues and need to reference it to get the back door combo. Maybe attaching it to your will paperwork so your family has access to it and can follow the necessary steps to get the back door code. The easy answer is dont end up on the gov. radar. lol You ultimately have to determine whether the warranty is worth more than the gov working with the manufacturer to gain access to your safe.

[@huckfin1100]

This is what happens when you start a business and allow to be regulated invite the people who call themselves a government

[@Avalanche2]

HA HA HA! You think they will remove your backdoor combo from the system? Not a chance, it's a placebo.

[@mikesmith-wk7vy]

liberty wont honor that form its pretty much guaranteed they are keeping those codes no matter your wishes

[@55azguy]

Thank you for the information. Also glad to see you again in front of the camera. 👍

[@Bob_Smith19]

Still waiting for Liberty to respond that they removed the safe from their database. Combination has already been changed but I still don’t want the combo anywhere besides my head.

[@vrooooom4487]

No, law enforcement does NOT have a right to just go into your safe

[@starhawke380]

Unless they are executing a valid search warrant signed by a judge to search your property, and that safe is located on that property.

[@vrooooom4487]

the safe must be included in thee warrant@@starhawke380

[@Scarredfan]

This is exactly why i have a manual S&G dial on mine and told my children to have a manual dial on their safes as well! No batteries required, nobody outside the family knows the combinations. Period

[@brianbooser2170]

Who is going to trust them? I know I wouldnt.

[@joeyyy771]

Keep a liberty safe in your room but keep your guns elsewhere that way you trick the feds 😂

[@starhawke380]

Ill keep my dial safe for now. If the serial number is what they use to find the override code, it seems like an angle grinder or dremel would make short work of it. No serial number, no override code.

[@CBThree]

My AMSEC Electronic Safe Lock (with a customized combination) has this marking on the circuit board: ESL-Key7. Seems like a back door code. Is it?

[@c3bhm]

Every safe company/dealer should tell/warn customers this info before purchase, and every company should offer the immediate scrubbing of their records if that's what the customer wants. They should also state their policy for cooperating with law enforcement, up front. All of this should have been the policy ever since these digital locks hit the market. Seems obvious, yet here we are.

[@realSamAndrew]

Most people could never imagine their innocent activities would get them raided by the feds.

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

If you would read that little manual that comes with your safe you would find this information in it. So many act like this was all hidden information from them but it is in the manuals that come with the safe.

[@TheHarleywolf]

Liberty was to send out an email once it was deleted. I have not received anything yet.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Good to know!

[@zachansen8293]

how do you know the lock manufacturer doesn't have a copy, too?

[@motofunk1]

Rule 4: Best way to keep a secret. Keep it to yourself. Second-best, tell one other person-if you must. There is no third best.

[@provost5752]

I hope nobody's dumb enough to believe Liberty safe will delete your backdoor code.

[@61gg]

Couldn’t law enforcement just drill the safe like a locksmith?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

If Liberty didn't give them the combination, they certainly would have hired a locksmith to do it.

[@ranger178]

they would be destroying property and have more legal troubles with that then getting code.

[@realSamAndrew]

@@ranger178 you think the government worries about their own legal problems? Who's going to punish them?

[@williamadams5472]

That not the point

[@mattiethesurfer]

I am in the market to buy a gun safe (waiting for Black Friday), but will not buy Liberty as it works with the FBI. Liberty is like Bud Light.

[@WeldonSmith-un9iu]

If you can turn a screwdriver you don't need a locksmith and you can buy a key to change the combo to anything you want.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Yep. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6WZaKiojc2eb9k

[@mikesims8054]

This might be a good time to ask a question Ive had for years. If someone goes to a gun safe with a name brand electronic lock and disconnects the number pad and reconnects the same brand name pad, can they use that number pad to unlock the safe. Are we saying the actual locking device knows which key pad belongs to the lock?

[@kenofken9458]

I think the key pad is just that - a number entry device and power source. The combination - and the override code, is stored inside the lock body which is inside the safe door. In that sense, the safe does not know or care if the key pad is the one it was originally sold with. As long as that entry device is the same make and model or fully compatible, it will allow you to put in numbers and power the swing bolt, but only if you enter the right combination stored inside the safe.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Yes. The combos for safes now are stored in the electronics inside of the safe. That way if your keypad fails you can put on a new keypad and your code will still get in. Also meaning the override code would still be available.

[@kenofken9458]

One strategy I've seen mentioned is to swap out a new digital lockset and then remove the serial number from that. Apparently some of the securecom or whatever those are have no permanent serial number, just a sticker. I wonder if a Kaba Mas X-10 might be good too if it fits? They're apparently designed to meet government security specs. One would think (hope) that there isn't an override for those floating around. Then again this is the same government that trusts its most sensitive intelligence data to teenage video gamer IT dudes!

[@darylbauer5184]

Mega THANKS!!!!!!!

[@frankm2385]

Yeah, Liberty's attempt to regain their customers' trust. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

I cut them completely out of the loop, and Sargeant & Greenleaf too. I replaced the lock and entered all new codes, even the management code.

[@terrycooper4149]

I've got a mechanical style Sargent & Greenleaf combo lock.

[@joeking1722]

Ironman safes DO NOT keep the combination of your lock!

[@terry3507]

BUT UNCLE SAMS NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THEM ! THEY HAD NO RIGHT NO WARENT ! LIBERTY OR ANYONE ELSE DOES IT IS SCREWED IF THEY GIVE IT OUT WITHOUT A WARENT !

[@user-oe9ol9ww1x]

Enough is Enough boycott Boycott Boycott liberty safes

[@Utubeisazzho]

The connection to gun storage laws and dem lawmakers is strong. All on each others boards and donors

[@pureblood2020]

Only own a combination or keyed safe. Never any safe that needs electronics. Liberty put the "Lib" in liberty.

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

Fort Knox, Cannon, Champion, American Security all have assisted law enforcement at one time or another, don't be a fool.

[@bidensatraitor6211]

I would rather have the old fashion tumbler style. And Libertysafe just put themselves out of business now. Their own customers knowing that their own product will not be secure isnt a good business model and a total lack of trust .

[@thomastommy1192]

Where is the link to that other video you mentioned?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Oops. Added. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6WZaKiojc2eb9ksi=uBrccAf5AmIq-ixO

[@someguy_7765]

From the description: “I'd like to reiterate, safe companies do not just give out codes to people who call and ask. Liberty did NOT do this. Liberty safe provided a code to law enforcement with a legal right to search the safe (a search warrant).” Nope, I’m calling bullshit. A warrant gives the government the legal right to search the safe if explicitly mentioned in the warrant, but it does not compel the safe company to turn over the code. A subpoena explicitly requiring liberty to do this would constitutive legal compulsion. But even then, Liberty should fight such a thing. Instead, they rolled over without even being compelled. If Tim Cooke could tell the FBI to pound sand over a locked iPhone (which he did), then Liberty safe co. damn sure could have done the same. Granted, the government can get into the safe all by themselves if they really want to. Fine, then let them do it, but don’t assist them.

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

You are ignorant is you think Apple has never assisted law enforcement, they just don't make it public.

[@rockyfesta5099]

Sorry my friend, Apple has NEVER assisted on any search warrant. I have written dozens of warrants requesting them to assist on I-phones or any Apple products, their response, " we cannot access our software". I will never own anything Apple .

[@zachansen8293]

You really need a lapel mic. They're not expensive. Also, liberty did not have to give the combination up. A warrant for another property doesn't compel Liberty to do anything. It would have to be SUBPOENAD before it would be legally required. If you have a locksmith change your code, doesn't the locksmith know the code? Or do they have you do something while they aren't watching?

[@brandonmasingille2907]

Time to hide mine in the yard

[@ranger178]

what if you remove serial number and never registered safe can safe company still have one code that will open any of their safes?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

The code is tied to the serial number on the lock and also the safe. Every lock has a different default code. If you were to remove the serial number from the safe and you were to remove the serial number from the lock, I don't see how anybody could retrieve the default code because they won't have the information necessary to look it up. That's actually a great idea 👍👍👍

[@turkwendell6904]

Do you think they could go back to the point of sale which would likely have the customer's name and the serial number of the safe? I'm not an expert. Also great channel and thanks for all the content.👍

[@LocksmithRecommended]

@@turkwendell6904 I'm not sure. No safe or lock manufacture has ever asked me for a customer name. They always ask for the serial number. I'm not sure at what level they track it, but it would seem it's by serial number and not customer name to me. They might have the customer name though if the safe was registered after purchase.

[@doodaddy1454]

@@LocksmithRecommended time for a video on how to remove the serial code(s)!

[@user-ji1zv8ub7v]

Partially bad info - you don’t necessarily need to replace a digital lock to ensure no one else has the code. For Securam you can factory wipe it and set the “manager” code and the regular code and no other code will exist.

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Hmmm. I'l have to call them to see if that's correct. They do keep recovery codes for locksmiths only. I don't believe that resetting the lock will get rid of that code. It will reset the super code and manager code, but those are different than the recovery code.

[@laurencel.7980]

which brand safe should I buy for my home?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Depends on how you're using it. acme-safes-for-sale.com/articles/buy-the-right-type-safe

[@christopherc4814]

Does the retailer (seller) have access to the default code?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Nope. Manufacturers keep it on file. In order to get that you have to be registered with the manufacturer as a licensed company that works on safes. So, we sell safes and we also work on safes. So we can get the code once we verify that the person requesting it is the owner of the safe. But we don't store them on our file systems anywhere when we need them we have to request them.

[@QuadTap]

can you do a review of the hollon cresent shield series

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Will do!

[@doodaddy1454]

Just when l learned to like digital locks! Now I guess I'm going to flip back. Do you have an opinion on which to use now?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

Check out our article. It's really about personal preference. www.acmelocksmith.com/articles/safe-dial-vs-electronic-lock/

[@MichaelThomas-ps5qg]

That's why I don't buy one besides changing your code doesn't mean nothing there's a master code built in all of them

[@waynec369]

These glorified cabinets called safes with electronic locks, regardless of mfg, are SO easy to get into that it ain't even funny. Simply lift the electronic lock up and off the door, then energize the two wires hanging out of the door, which will pull in the solenoid and unlock the door. No need for all that complex bullshit of calling for codes, etc.

[@RealTechSkills]

You need to look up how a Securam lock functions. Your posted claim is a false statement and would not pull in the solenoid.

[@sferg9582]

In my opinion, any time there are electronic devices that have the capacity of storing ANYTHING as far as data, it cannot be trusted. The manufacturers of these devices whether they be safes, hard drives, "the cloud", bank accounts whatever.... you can bet there's going to be a back door... or two or three or maybe something that not even the manufacturer is aware of but only the writer of the code. I can never trust any electronic devices and would be feeling better with a mechanical combination safe which I can have the combo changed (albeit at significant expense).

[@chrisstevenson2622]

This is the only video that explains that if you fill out the form to have your info removed from the safe manufacturers database but the lock manufacturer still has it. I’ve always found a dial lock to be more reliable. No batteries and EMP proof.

[@sferg9582]

I agree. In my opinion, any time there are electronic devices that have the capacity of storing ANYTHING as far as data, it cannot be trusted. The manufacturers of these devices whether they be safes, hard drives, "the cloud", bank accounts whatever.... you can bet there's going to be a back door... or two or three or maybe something that not even the manufacturer is aware of but only the writer of the code. I can never trust any electronic devices and would be feeling better with a mechanical combination safe which I can have the combo changed (albeit at significant expense)

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

I say sue Liberty, and ANY and all locksmiths who try to open your safe Without a legal Warrant for the SAFE, not just for your house or business. The warrant needs to have a line on it for the safe as well.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Clearly, you have zero knowledge of how search warrants are written. They are written in general terms that would include a safe. The warrant does NOT have to be specifically identified on a search warrant. Also no matter what, Liberty or any other safe mfgr is going to give LE the override code. With Liberty situation, it was do we give them the code now or in 2 hours during which time LE will still have possession of the safe.

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

@@andrewschliewe6392 And "Clearly" your the 'Expert" LOL. Your wrong, The warrant has to have the safe on it or have a separate warrant for just the safe. It doesn't matter IF they can get a warrant for the safe. They have to have it first or any safe manufacture is liable for giving access WITHOUT your permission. No different, then a locksmith letting someone else into your home with out permission. Still illegal.

[@SMS2884]

​@@user-zq6pj5jo8jThat's a stupid comment. By that logic you could lock a bunch of illegal drugs in a safe and when the cops come to your door with a warrant for your house, the stash would be safe from the warrant 😂

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

@@SMS2884 Weather you "Believe" it's "Stupid" or not. Doesn't matter. The law is clear. "Can you be forced to open a safe? In order to demand a search, the officer has to have “Probable Cause” that the safe contains contraband, or that the thing itself is stolen. Just having a safe is not “probable cause”. The warrant has to be for the home first, then they CAN add the safe later only IF they do not find what the warrant was for and have probable cause that it could be in the safe.

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

@@SMS2884 Here it is laid out from the Federal law enforcement procedures" LOCKED CONTAINERS - AN OVERVIEW John P. Besselman Senior Legal Instructor Law enforcement students often ask the question “can I search a locked container?” A better question to ask may be “when can I search a locked container?” The fact that a container is locked may not increase the possessor-owner’s expectation of privacy but does limit the law enforcement officer’s access to the secured area. The ability to search a locked container will depend on the justification the law enforcement officer has for intruding into the area. The purpose of this article is to examine the different legal avenues a law enforcement officer can use to search locked containers. WITH A WARRANT The Supreme Court has expressed a strong preference that law enforcement officers obtain a search warrant before conducting a search of any kind. Searching a locked container is no different.1 The confusion that surrounds the decision to search a locked container begins when the officer is considering a warrantless search of that container. The Supreme Court has authorized warrantless searches in several circumstances. Automobile searches, searching those lawfully arrested, Terry frisks, inventories and consensual searches are some areas the Supreme Court has permitted government intrusion without a warrant. Under what circumstances may a law enforcement officer intrude into a 1 U.S. v. Chadwick, 433 U.S. 1 (1977) locked container without prior judicial approval? Let us examine these warrant exceptions one at a time.

[@kbennett531]

Boycott liberty safe

[@fancycavegaming620]

If they have a warrant but no combo, won't they just take a circular saw to it?

[@LocksmithRecommended]

They'd have found a way to get in.

[@chrisstevenson2622]

One of the downfalls of all gun safes is their interior design. With different sizes of firearms plus attached optics they never hold as many as they claim and when going to the range, it’s inevitable you wanna take the gun that’s in the back which means you are stuck taking guns out which means you run the risk of banging them together and scratching them from excessive handling. The two safe companies that solve this is SecureIt and Pendleton. I would go with a SecureIt safe if I was in the market for a safe as they can be customized to your liking and it’s a straight in access. No digging for the firearm you want. If you move, they are easier to move than a traditional safe and provide enough protection to keep the half-starved tweaker from taking your stuff.

[@joeyyy771]

Dont use liberty safe

[@lizzapaolia959]

It's a lot of hype. The FBI has access to tools that would allow access to most safes. Liberty Safes , doesn't manufacture any type of metal box the FBI couldn't gain access too. The question is should Liberty Safes requested the FBI issue a search warrant for the information. The FBI was looking to gain access without damaging this metal box. If you were speaking about a company such as Graffunder Safes that would be a different type of conversation. Graffunder Safes makes exceptionally high security safes. Thanks for sharing your videos. Hope people understand these comments. Thanks 🙏

[@MrTheDif]

If they had the tools, they wouldn't have called Liberty and asked for the backup combo.

[@SMS2884]

It amazes me that people make such a big deal about this. If they had a legal search warrant, which they did. Then they're getting in the safe whether you give them the code or not. You get to chose whether your stuff gets destroyed to gain entry or not.

[@alternatune]

Liberty Safe was not compelled by a court order to provide the FBI with the passcode, i.e., they DID NOT have any search warrant against Liberty Safe. So, instead of telling the Feds to pound sand, as they should have, Liberty immediately gave the FBI the backdoor passcode like compliant lemmings. Only after that PR disaster did Liberty admit their massive customer-service negligence, apologize, and change their policy. Sorry, too late!

[@johnqcitizen9177]

They didn’t have legal rights to that safe. Get good information before talking

[@zachansen8293]

They had a warrant. That means they can do whatever they want with it. it was just easiest to get the code. They could have drilled it with the warrant they had. Liberty didn't have to give up the code, but the police would have gotten the contents regardless.

[@hholton216]

@@zachansen8293 Actually that's not totally correct. Yes, they had a warrant but unless it stated that the officers could open locked containers, they had no authority to open or ask for the safe to be opened. In which case, LEO would need a warrant for the safe and any other locked containers. If the owner refused, they would then need a subpoena from the court to get the combination to the safe. Search warrants are very specific.

[@rockyfesta5099]

I done or been part of hundreds of warrants, it was covered!@@hholton216

[@ikescomments1931]

Locksmith Recommended conveniently left out that Liberty Safe gave the FBI someone’s safe combination without a subpoena or warrant. All it took was a phone call and Liberty Safe gave someone’s personal information. That’s right there was no subpoena or warrant issued to Liberty Safe and they released a person’s safe combination. Don’t buy anything from Liberty Safe.@@zachansen8293

[@TheBlueevil56]

First 😂 🫡

[@mweb1]

Second.

[@grahepo]

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