Library of Ruina - From a Place of Love / And Then is Heard No More | Reacting To VGM!

[@Zajkong]

Jesse: "It sounded borderline horror" Me who played: Traumatized and having lingering Emotional Damage

[@StarfieldDisarray]

Mili and ProjectMoon's working relationship started because a fan used one of Mili's songs for a Lobotomy Corporation AMV which grew really popular, so PM decided to get Mili to do a couple tracks for Ruina and mutually discovered they really enjoy working with each other. Both of these tracks are used for what the fandom affectionately calls "Mili Jumpscares". Not all battles use Mili songs, but the ones that do stick with you often due to being a sizable difficulty spike. Though while "From a Place of Love" isn't *that* hard the subject matter surrounding it is one of the most haunting moments in the series. It's really fun because a lot of them challenge the idea and expectation of what a boss theme *is*, while there are a couple that feel more conventional in that regard the bulk of them are more delicate songs like these.

[@Gameboy-kl8br]

@@StarfieldDisarray What amv?

[@junkyardsoul3757]

And then is heard no more is my favorite song from Library of Ruina. It often gets passed up because it's not as flashy as the other big mili songs, but it's very well well executed in the style it was aiming for.

[@misan7690]

i think a lot of people would enjoy ATIHNM better if it wasnt playing during that agonizingly long and exhausting fight. i like it personally as a theme, but i dont wanna think about *the boi*, so it never lands in my playlist

[@anusaukko6792]

@@misan7690 I love how Project Moon made *That Characters* boss fight so long and agonizing that people genuinely sleep on both his theme and him as a character overall, one of the best things to come out of Ruina besides bingo board free answer Roland and Angela imo.

[@hibilbo4755]

@@misan7690 Just recently did this boss, I booted up the game at like 11pm thinking I would just quickly redo my build and do one stage, 2 hours and 67 stone babies later and I'm finally going to bed at 1am... Like the fight was cool but it really did not need to be like 6 stages long, especially after its past the halfway point and it starts getting easier

[@kevinnguyen4711]

Both of these songs are for boss themes. In Library of Ruina, all the instrumental themes are done by Studio EIM, and all the songs are done by Mili, with every Mili song (I believe there's 8 in LoR, if I remember correctly) being the opening theme, the ending theme, and themes for special boss battles. But your sinister/twisted vibes for the first song were right on the money. Despite the superficially saccharine atmosphere of it, it actually plays for what is probably the most horrifying moment (and boss battle) of the entire game. I'm not going to spoil anything on that, other than to say there's a reason why "We don't talk about Love Town" is one of the biggest memes from the fanbase. It's probably one of the most iconic moments of Project Moon's brand of horror in the series (the entire Project Moon series of games falls under the horror genre, mostly because the setting of the City is pretty much Hell incarnate). I don't think I'll ever hear "L-O-V-E" quite the same way ever again. But anyway, I agree with you on the second song. It's one of my favorite Mili songs in this game. It's a very understated song, but the way it's recorded and the relative quietness of it backed by the somber harmonies really haunts your soul in the best possible way. And this song plays for what is probably one of the most depressing moments (and boss battles) of the game. Though to be honest, a lot of boss fights and story moments in the game are pretty sad. When you live in a dystopian world, there's plenty of depression to go around. Who knew? But to clarify your confusion on titles, And Then Is Heard No More is the song name, and To Kill a Living Book is the album name (which contains all of Mili's LoR songs). I'm pretty sure I talked about the game and its combat quite a bit, but that was also a long time ago. It's a fairly unique style of turn-based combat where you and the enemies act at the same time and clash with your attacks to try and overpower the other. It's an exhilarating and fun battle system that mostly gets ported over to its sequel, Limbus Company, and I don't think I've ever encountered gameplay quite like it. P.S. If you want to see more of Mili's vocal range, you should definitely check out Through Patches of Violet (the one I requested a few months ago).

[@LaVitr_e]

as for that philip being one of the most depressing moments of th game, i still think that yan holds that trophy the best, he made me have an entire breakdown when his song popped up, making me completely freeze and just stare at the background, the boss, and listen to the music until it looped for the 3rd time

[@kevinnguyen4711]

@@LaVitr_e Well, I did say ONE of the most depressing moments. LoR has enough depressing moments to fill a book. Perhaps quite literally.

[@LaVitr_e]

Oh but it definitely can! I'd say they can fill a book pretty easily with just LoR alone because of how much the feeling of despair rules over The City As for your first statement, to be honest I was debating whether or not if I should clarify that I was aware of your >one< of the most depressing moments of the story but still wanted to share my opinion on who got the most depressing one. But in the end laziness got the best of me and I took the shortcut Hey I can't pass the opportunity to praise my favourite LoR character after all lol

[@kevinnguyen4711]

@@LaVitr_e Nah, I understand that. LoR has a lot of great characters, though the whole series just has really good characters with really good writing in general.

[@agenderwitchery]

@@kevinnguyen4711 I mean yeah, that's why they literally filled two books with depressing moments (the art books)

[@grimmreaper6354]

"to kill a living book" is the name of the Album made for library of ruina by Mili

[@akinari6870]

You seem to really enjoy Momocashew singing in a duet with herself, thus, I highly recommend "Through Patches of Violet" next.

[@minimanbeast1014]

We do not talk about love town Edit: its only time till he gets to gone angels, probably my fav song of all time, but do we have all of roland realisation before it, he's already reacted to it but it adds so much Edit 2: fun fact, the second half of from a place of love's snares were made to sound like a train going across a track

[@seonjuseo7270]

WE DO NOT talk about love town

[@Robocrab-td8dr]

Ironically, talking about not talking about Love Town is still (indirectly) talking about Love Town

[@Crimson0047]

@@Robocrab-td8dr Fair point. you win. I shall now talk abou-

[@imno_there]

Mili has an album called Key Ingredient in which they re-do some of their songs but with only piano as the sole instrument. From a Place of Love is one of the songs they chose for that album, and it's one of my favorite songs ever, she changes how she sings some of the lyrics, and just the piano being the main show of the song makes it so beautiful and creepy at the same time. At a point in the song the piano gets even louder and grander and its just so cool. Def in my top 10 songs of all time

[@Titan_Main_D2]

Thus, the Project Moon sleeper agents are summoned. Always glad to see more reactions to this beautifully depressing world!

[@penitente3337]

16:14 CARMEN??? Is Jesse distorting...!? -sorry not sorry-

[@uninspiredname2974]

Does he know?

[@misan7690]

in regards to the confusion with the second song: The Album Mili released with all Library of Ruina songs they made is called: To Kill a Living Book It Includes String Theocracy (Opening Theme), From a Place of Love (Boss Theme), And then is heard no more (Boss Theme), Iron Lotus (Boss Theme), Children of the City (Boss Theme), Gone Angels (Boss Theme), Poems of a Machine (Credits Theme, personal favorite) and a small song called Salt, Pepper, Birds, and the Thought Police. the last one isnt actually in the game, but it is made with regards to the theme of the game, and very much still worth listening to

[@thundermincz]

limbillions assemble, limbillions listen, limbillions love PM

[@Loptous]

The visuals for the songs on Mili's channel are never related to the games. They usually have an artwork made that illustrates the song itself rather than use images from the games, probably because they want to target a larger audience. That's also why you can't make head or tail of them from a game's perspective. On that note, If you could make an exception, I would really recommend trying to pay attention to the lyrics for Mili songs, because Cassie takes great care in giving them 2 to 3 several meanings, so you can get something out of them even if you're not initiated to the games. For instance, From a Place of Love can be interpreted as a relationship going wrong if you just take it at face value, but the real meaning, which I'm contractually obliged not to talk about is far more literal and sinister. Since you mentioned Yamato Kasai, he is the other face of the group and always behind the piano in all their songs. If you enjoy his playing and have some requests for Ender Lilies, I recommend checking them out as he was mostly in charge of that soundtrack.

[@Cullyxe]

Ender lilies!! ♡♡

[@MoonwalkSA]

If you want to hear Cassie's 'natural' voice, there's a single line in the full version of String Theocracy where she totally drops the soft and fluffy vocal tone into a more full-throated sound. Only lasts a few words, but sounds phenomenal.

[@Kiiper]

He has reacted to it, before he even knew who mili were lmao

[@YOM2_UB]

There're also a Q&A with Cassie and KIHOW on Project Moon's channel, and an interview by Papalodopolis with Cassie and Yamato Kasai.

[@YeOldeManRiver]

Yamato Kasai (or HAMO) is the main composer for Mili. Cassie draws the most attention for the group with her unique vocal style, but I feel like HAMO is severely underrated. His ability to compose a track that's fitting to an environment or moment is top-tier, even without Cassie's vocals. The Ender Lilies OST is a great example of this, as Cassie is not present in a majority of those tracks, but they still invoke just as many feels that any other Mili song with Cassie would.

[@daistellae]

once again I'm here because mili is awesome but idk a thing about library of ruina 🎉 always makes me so happy to see u reacting to their music :)

[@Cullyxe]

Cassie voice variation: I'd reccomend camelia "Let's lament" version of "between two worlds" - is incredibly emotionally expressive. Fascinating.

[@hhmpkr]

If you're curious about how Cassie sounds like when she's singing in a more melodic way, the song they did for Arknights (Grown-up's Paradise) is probably a good choice. As for Library of Ruina, you have the story portions told in a visual novel style and gameplay portions consisting of turn based battles with rules and mechanics resembling those from certain board games (deck of cards with a list of actions your characters can perform, dice that decide the power of those actions and their outcome, etc.) and it's very focused on the idea of "fighting to death" and the emotions attached to it; as the fight goes on (you and the enemies taking damage and suffering casualties), emotion levels rise and both sides gain powerups from it.

[@agenderwitchery]

Your guess that From A Place Of Love is horror is spot on - the latter half of the song is entirely literal. "Let us be one", "We stick together", "Before we started feeding on each other", all of these lines happen in the most literal way possible. A young pair of lovers got on a train that "malfunctioned" and after 3 months (of the 2000 years they were on the train total), people started cannibalizing each other out of madness. The couple would later go on to be stitched together, convinced that it was the only way they'd be able to protect the train car they were in. As for And Then Is Heard No More, it's one of my favorite songs in the game. The theme for it is "see not, hear not, speak not". After a man watches everyone in his life die in front of his eyes while he remained helpless and the only survivor due to running away, he eventually turns into a monster that embodies his inability to accept and move on from his failures. He did briefly summon the resolve to push forward, but ultimately was tormented and pushed over the edge, giving in to his own anxieties. Also anyone who chides me with "we don't talk about love town" is meming up the wrong tree. Half the fun here is hearing Jesse's interpretation of the song and then seeing the actual context in the comments.

[@aweirdlookingcat3707]

@@agenderwitchery we don’t talk about love town 👍

[@leurunner4764]

One correction. He didn't run away the time before that. He was teleported away against his will. That's what "would you say that someone who had every intention to be brave, was a coward?" might refer to.

[@generalgarchomp333]

Ayyy more PM music. And no the whole soundtrack isn't Milli, only major story fights are(excluding realizations) the rest are by studio EIM.

[@JannetFenix]

By the way, do you want to know how did Mili get involved in PMoon games? The first game PM made, Lobotomy Corporation was extremely obscure game with extremely devouted fanbase. One of first pieces of fan videos was someone's VERY simple and modest animated video made to Mili's song "execute(me)". Fans in the comments were gushing for months about how the song perfectly matches game's story from perspective of the character, borderline dubbing the song unofficial LobCorp theme song. The song was brainrotted SO HARD that other videos for the same song had Pmoon fans gushing about it. And Project Moon is a small studio VERY known of being always up to date with playerbase's memes and fixations. They heard the pleas and the dream that could not have been became reality. They reached out to Mili on their own, and the Library of Ruina had Mili write music for it two years after the AMV was posted.

[@agastafas2]

if you liked the way And Then is Heard No More felt, I really think you would like A Nocturne for All, It feels very similar. It's from the game Ender Lilies wich Mili did the soundtrack but there's no singer

[@QuixoteGarden]

We don't talk about Love Town

[@JannetFenix]

And Cassie when she speaks, sounds just as modest and kind as you can expect - had pleasure meeting the band last year ^^. They're all so humble. Her voice is sweet but not false-cute, it's gentle but full of life!

[@陳威麟-q7o]

Mili, our familiar Mili. How wonderful.

[@JannetFenix]

Studio IEM makes most of Library/Limbus soundtrack and Mili did the intro, outro and most of iconic boss battles. You... Love Town... I.. do i explain? How CAN i even explain? In your free time, you can look up the story of Love Town online. It does not take long, you probably can get whole picture from Frey Cheqama's video about it, and please, DO check it out! Because then You'll realize the DOUBLE GENIUS of this song, and will never be able to see it the same way again. Everything about it, the two bottoms of the lyrics - and even the fact the voices sing in unison stop being cute and become terrifying.

[@hibacilacle2609]

I don’t know if you’ll read a comment from a video this old, but I highly recommend that you either listen or re-listen to the Roland realization theme before you do Gone Angels, they go hand in hand with each other.

[@zealous404]

What a wholesome song that totally not play during one of the most grotesque and shocking context ever

[@SergiTim]

The Dissonance between the lyrics, the peaceful tempo of the music, and the terrible situation in the game at which this From a Place of Love plays makes the whole experience very haunting.

[@RinrinFran]

These songs just give me a mental image from the time I was struggling in LoR. specifically Philip's stage.

[@trevorBbracket]

its an honour to be early enough to be posting alongside the lore guys these videos, and the project moon ones in particular, are particularly known for in the comments. love your work fellas edit: just came back to this! im in love (pun intended?) with the interpretation of From a Place of Love as a diegetic lullaby. Tomerry might have come up with it themselves, before the individuality within Tommy and Merry had faded away and been forgotten entirely. A song to help Tommy and Merry find peace, now hummed and droned by their remains as the last bit of proof they were ever seperate to begin with.

[@heartlesshealer]

The art for your "And Then is Heard No More" video is the general art used for a bunch of the song videos for Library of Ruina, rather than the image used for Mili's upload of the song. So you'll probably see that shot of the bookcase more often if you get more songs submitted in the future.

[@chiarafirever616]

I feel like you would find through patches of violet really interesting! Cassie sings both the male part and the female part in that one, it's a duet

[@zephrina1188]

This has always been my favorite Mili song. I always thought the creaking was the pedals on the piano, my sister's piano pedal creak like that. As for hearing the singer sing more normally, Mili has a song called "Static" where she starts off in the usual range but gradually goes into a more traditional singing voice. It's not from a video game, though, so i can't offically request it (It's from an anime called "Goblin Slayer")

[@rideps100]

I will just say the love town artwork is just for the song, it's not actually from the game. They do get secondary art for most of the game themes to avoid spoilers. Then yeah the second is the album cover for the soundtrack, but is also not game related.

[@Suninrags]

To comment on the gameplay/ premise since its not discussed too much in the comments, the game is a deckbuilder/ visual novel that takes place in a library that lure's people in with the prospect of earning books that contain information they desire, however they must pass an "ordeal" which is to defeat all of the librarians who seek to kill them. Should one die in the library they are transformed into a book that contains all of the knowledge and skills that person had and is added to the library's collection. The twist here is you are the librarians turning people into books, and your goal is murder anyone who seeks to obtain anything from the library The gameplay loop is as follows, Visual novel segment: you see the future "guests"(victims) of the library and the circumstances that lead them to being invited to visit, all the while sprinkling in lore about the world Gameplay segment: You build a team of librarians, each team member has a 9 card deck that cycles turn by turn. You gain cards by burning the books of former "guests" (victims) to gain "pages" (cards) to add to your ever-growing collection. The exciting thing is nearly every card an enemy uses in the game is something you can add to your collection, so fighting a "guest" gives you a preview of what you stand to gain by defeating them. Then rinse repeat and thats the game, eventually plotlines converge and you reach the conclusion of the story.

[@arcturus64]

Yoooooo Library of Ruina!

[@davishmayo1643]

Mili songs come in during certain boss fights and they usually sell how strong or terrifying the boss itself is. Most other battles use the songs that you’ve listened to before like Keter, Gebura, Binah.

[@hylia8347]

without truly giving anything away about the content that lies within library of ruina, because truly everyone deserves a chance to be thrown into it completely blind [story-wise], from a place of love is placed in such an iconic moment for SO many reasons to community. it'll really stick to you, the combination of two things like underlying horror and cutely disarming vocals always remains with you....... we do not talk about love town....

[@Crimson0047]

WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT LOVE TOWN Also the Mili songs are for the MAJOR in-game bosses with major story relevance for the most part.

[@Yichh]

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

[@lowes7734]

This is...very timely considering the new Limbus event. Also PHILIPPPPP. Also also, like someone else here recommended, check out Through Patches of Violet from Limbus Company if you want to hear Cassie's awesome voice range.

[@Lynnx2253]

From a placr of love is so good omg

[@phuhuhuhu8090]

From a place of love is actually the song, that got me interested in mili. When I heard it in game I was literally stunned for like a minute...

[@lyralogan1112]

Just some boss fights / major battles are Milli. Sure someone already said this, but the short form of the battle for "Place of Love" (spoiler) is two people sewn together into one hulking monstrosity so they can be together forever, after living 1k years undying in a train and going insane. the 2nd song is 100% unrelated, even to the image (all the milli images tend to be unrelated) and the very first time you hear Milli in a boss theme.

[@botindeldiablo]

Love both songs to death but aint the same without Tomary scream the babies giggles and the laser charging up.

[@Rotzka]

We don't talk about Love Town.

[@AlecBGood]

Yes, I have been so afraid...

[@ChaolaoFueChi]

More Library of Ruina and Limbus Company

[@kams2520]

I believe the word based songs are Mili i'm not sure on the rest. Also we enjoy the cantos the term is from dante inferno.

[@ziyingwangTranslations]

I remember a video identifying Mili's genre as classical-trance (trans?), between classical and pop

[@Heathenshalt]

When I hear a name like ruina I just think of Rubina, the kitty cat from A Rubovian Legend

[@MrJpc1234]

Since he liked Cassie Dueting with herself im looking forward to him reacting to Through Patches of Violet which is the evolved form of the Mili Self Duet

[@cooldog2636]

“Kill a living book” is what the album is called

[@Realag666]

Sleeper Agents activated

[@WARPCORPoration]

Welcome Welcome ~

[@sircombat3259]

Remember gang “We don’t talk about Love Town”

[@NetMoverSitan]

This creeped me out, considering what this played in...that was the first one (full of soundtrack dissonance) the second one was when one that could become more than he was, was destroyed and eroded.

[@MrJpc1234]

Creepiness is the EXACT emotion you should be feeling for "From a Place of Love" .......Without spoiling of course this song comes along with moment when the game dives into some proper Sci-Fi Horror in a sequence that makes people feel uncomfortable (in an existential horror kinda way)

[@Gameboy-kl8br]

Most of the Ruina soundtrack is done by Studio Eim, but Mili was brought in to perform the themes for certain bosses in the game, as well as the opening cinematic and credits. We don't talk about Love Town. RIP Philip.

[@maserbesa12]

oh no, he found it

[@Dentzy-01]

Most of it is orginal from PM, while Mili made songs for most of the bosses, or the "major" ones. spoilers for the names of the bosses. (Love town [non-major, first actual boss], Crying children [hell. :3], Distorted Yan[Second distortion, revealer of the Index.], Roland [Roland.])

[@ChaoticMess5618]

you forgot the QUEEN Xiao!

[@yuyukosaigyoujii]

I would say AWAAWA is pretty similar to mili :^)

[@MilanTehVillain]

At the risk killing the joke, isn't it quite literally the same people?

[@yuyukosaigyoujii]

@@MilanTehVillain it is

[@hago66]

You all know what town we don't talk about.

[@somedude8728]

Folks who told them about Love Town? We are not supposed to talk about Love town.

[@kyrakava2643]

We do not talk about love town

[@Triforce4ever]

Rule no1 of Library of Ruina: WE. DO. NOT. TALK. ABOUT. LOVE. TOWN.

[@kingragnarok7302]

I'm the brave boi!

[@Kairax]

We don't talk about "From a Place of Love"...

[@christhethinker6791]

MiliGOD

[@miks2036]

I thought we don't talk about Love Town ?

[@ODEKVATT]

We don't talk about love town

[@seonjuseo7270]

Since no one wants to talk about it, i'll do a VERY BRIEF RUNDOWN about "From a Place of Love" In the Library of Ruina there is a Corporation, "Warp Corporation" or W Corp for short that offers instant translation from a place to other via using Warp trains, offering different charges for their services. Inside though, when you are already warping, the time is still and there is perpetuity, making you unable to die or to age, but not invulnerable to physical harm. The ones that pay more remain on this stasis for a lesser time, in the game described for about a week, and the "Commercial buyers" spend what is only described by an ETERNITY of time, Douzens of thousands of years, in the song, you play against the remnants of the commercial passangers that already spent millenia destroying eachother and rebuilding themselves with flesh and bone. The gist is that when you arrive through the warp, its as if nothing ever happened, you don't remember anything and in the real life time it was but an instant.

[@JannetFenix]

(tldr: the Long Jaunt. But in place where death does not exist, so people go mad from the stress and mental strain, tearing into each other's bodies in order to feel something through the eternity - even if it's just pain. And two lovers who, in order to survive the eternity, were sewn into one body, forever together... until the senses of "self" dilluted in ocean of forever)

[@michaelliggett1622]

Oh philip

[@sajmon2771]

Sl0t. Highly recommend.

[@ODEKVATT]

We don't talk about love town

[@pankotheseaweed]

We don't talk about Love Town