LiDAR to Design to Survey Layout - Riegl VZ600i

[@marshalllukemagnus]

This video is about on par with the rest of your work. 10 out of 10 no room for improvement. I’m working my way through the complete catalogue of your videos to earn myself appointed PhD in survey.

[@XYZ-Drafting_and_Designs]

Excellent in-depth video. I've always questioned the accuracy of 3d scanners. Seems to be the case in oder to get the accuracy advertised traditional survey equipment is still necessary. Scanner alone can not be 100% reliable. Thanks. You just earned a new sub. Look forward to more videos.

[@DavinSkeen]

Nice work Shea, comprehensive real-world application of scan data with measurable results.

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Thanks Davin!

[@RobPearlman]

I love this! Riegl is so pricey but it seems like maybe its worth it!

[@joshmckenzie1359]

I am always amazed with the speed and amount of data that can be gathered with a scanner ten minutes from out of case for a single scan to putting it back is about the same as we get from our Faros but we don't have the built in rtk. I can't think of a reason we would use it besides to help with registration. the accuracy we would want to be using a traditional scanner versus a mobile scanner would make it kind of hard not to use a total station to establish control just to maximize the accuracy of the scan. We are now using the RS systeam due to your video and we have done an entire waste water treatment plant with it and are getting phenomenal results from so thanks for your videos

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

I agree, given the accuracy spec of the point cloud "controlled" by the RTK antenna, there really would be few use cases for us as well. And I really haven't struggled with registration when I haven't used the RTK antenna either. I could see some outfits having niche use cases for the optional RTK antenna but I would imagine they are the exception, not the rule. Perhaps if a company only needed less accurate point cloud data and didn't have SLAM, Mobile or Aerial LiDAR available to them and only had this I could see it but the main reason we opt for terrestrial scanning over those other options is accuracy. Thanks fantastic to hear about your experience with the RS system. It's a hidden gem, but hopefully not hidden for too much longer.

[@EmailtkgiveEmailTKGive]

Amazing video once again! This channel is an absolute gem, and I'm so grateful that someone is putting information like this out there. I did schooling in Geomatics, but as I've entered the industry I've realized I have been woefully under prepared on real world best practices and procedures. I would love to see more videos like this if you ever have the time, just showing how you go from an initial request to final deliverables. Thank you once again, also would love to support this channel if you ever create a patreon or something.

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Thank you very much! Absolutely, I will try to work in real world jobs into future videos more.

[@BG_Lidar]

Once again, another great video. How does a Canadian surveyor get a gig down in florida?😅

[@landmeterbeuckx4779]

I use the rtk only for registration. I always tie in with control points. Seperately. But great scanner for sure. I use a vz400i. Filtering should be done in Riscan while you have it. not in cloudcompare. Also tie in with control is very easy with Riscan. I do all upon exports in Riscan

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Absolutely, and we do too if the necessary accuracy spec of that job dictates we should. That was really the main point of running the scan this way, to test the claims of 1-2cm in absolute accuracy from RTK alone. Yes, the method of aligning data to control really is quick and easy in RiSCAN. I'll respectfully disagree with your statement "Filtering should be done in Riscan while you have it. not in cloudcompare." Cleaning the point cloud can and should be done wherever it is done the best. If you can do a better job in RiSCAN than CloudCompare, by all means, that is the right tool for you. If someone else has different tools available to them that do a better job, then that is the right tool for them.

[@landmeterbeuckx4779]

@@The3rdDimensionSurveying didn't mean you shouldn't use another software but Riscan uses all the parameters from the measured data the best. My 2cts of course.

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Ahhh I see. To be honest I need to put more effort into learning all the filtering tools of RiSCAN. Like I said in the video, it really is an impressive piece of software.

[@erickruse4610]

Awesome video! It's so nice seeing content publicly available that deep dives into different scanning platforms like this. From both the hardware and software side, it's refreshing to see deep dives that are more than just a 1-2 minute marketing video. Great work! Did you rent this Riegl or did they just hook you up for all these videos you do? I'd love to do some comparisons to our RTC's, Faro Premiums, and X9's and see just how superior the VZ 600i is, lol. Last I heard when I reached out to a rep was that it wasn't (rentals) something they offered in the US. 😢 Side note, with Leica software, unless I misunderstood your statement, you can share licenses by setting them up as network licenses. We've been doing that with all our ~20 Reg360, 3DR, and Cloudworx licenses. They're shared between about 50 users and as long as one is available, anyone can pull the license. Works well so long as your license server/Internet doesn't go down 😆.

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Thank you! No it wasn’t a rental or a freebie unfortunately, that would have been nice. We do have an RTC as well so expect a comparison in the not too distant future. There are pros and cons to each. Yes you can check out and check in licences for register360 but one licence cannot be used by two users simultaneously. With RiSCAN, that is not the case. There is no checking in and out and multiple users can work in RiSCAN at the same time. Considering the amount we pay for a scanner it’s an odd business tactic to sell a tool that is useless without paying a yearly fee and that yearly fee being stuck to one user at a time makes it worse. I can see it from a solely software based company that needs continual income to fuel R and D but I’m not a fan of the pay to play approach that hardware manufacturers take with their processing software that makes the scanner useless without it. Coming from a customer, this 100% affects where I’m willing to spend my money. But at least it’s better than the pay to process approach that other manufacturers take, that we also own hardware of, which is many times worse than a floating license. Haha yes, the check in/check out process can be frustrating for sure.

[@erickruse4610]

Ah, that is an interesting and much better approach to licensing with RiScan Pro. Thanks for the clarification. I look forward to any comparisons you have planned for the future! It's always one thing to see the white paper comparisons Leica does behind the scenes to compare their systems to competitors like Riegl, but for end users like ourselves, understanding the whole process start to finish for real world projects and scenarios is far more valuable than something done in an almost laboratory controlled environment, haha.

[@TheJazza101]

Have you done any kinematic scans with it?

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

Not yet, the kinematic option is an add-on you have to buy extra. From what I've been told, the kinematic option doesn't do as good of a job as a scanner that was built for SLAM, the VLX would be an example, which we also own. So it negates our need for us to try to take a TLS and using it kinematically. The mounting options for kinematic scans for the VZ are kind of clunky as well compared to purpose built scanners meant for that application. That being said, if someone only has this scanner and doesn't own a SLAM unit, it may fill a niche.

[@Rafalord100]

How much did the laser scanner cost?

[@The3rdDimensionSurveying]

@@Rafalord100 it’s in the six figures

[@SynGeo]

About $115K usd