Lies On The Brexit Bus

[@mrmanch204]

Another good presentation, thank you. Will anyone be made to pay, be called to account for these lies? How would the perpetrators be put before English law? Or are we powerless in this country against lies that cost the people money, health and mortality?

[@thrownstair]

Well, we can’t do anything. By which I mean we won’t do anything. We could, but we won’t.

[@mrmanch204]

@@thrownstair Well, I agree with you, there does exist a great deal of apathy and just plain old ignorance. It seems to me that the mechanism of justice is not the accessible vehicle of fairness as we think.

[@4tnine]

Hello mrmanch. Referring to the slogan on the brexit bus, Jonny Nexus said it was “… the most famous lie in British political history.” NO, IT WASN’T and Jonny and his nodding followers clearly need an English lesson. The slogan says: “We send the EU £350 million a week let’s fund our NHS instead.” The first clause is a statement. There has been much discussion about the actual amount the UK’s membership was costing. It varied from year-to-year as did the amount we got back from the EU. What has become apparent is that no one knows exactly how much the UK’s membership was costing and that £350 million a week was not a gross exaggeration, it may even have fallen short of the actual amount. So no proof that anyone lied: it was fair to say that the UK did send £350 million a week to the EU and Jonny has acknowledge that fact, to quote him: “… it is true, that was our notional bill.” The second clause (“let’s fund our NHS instead”) is a suggestion. It is not a promise and it is not a pledge as Jonny appears to believe. His inability to understand this simple slogan may explain why so many like-minded remoaners do not understand what kind of organisation the EU is aspiring to become. And to prove my point, I say that you cannot give me a pertinent answer to the following question: the EU describes itself as “… a unique economic and political union,” what do YOU think is meant by the term, “political union,” what does that entail exactly and what kind of organisation do YOU think the EU is aspiring to become?

[@mrmanch204]

@@4tnine I think the implication of the 'bus message', was that we will be spending money on the NHS that will be saving by leaving. There is in fact, an interview with Bojo on the bus where he admits this is misleading. But, your point about it not being a lie is spurious to the issue and is indicative of a technicality that 'brexidiots' use to try and avoid that they have voted for a many faceted disaster, that was designed to only benefit the absolute wealthiest people. The implications of the bridge burning tragedy brexidiots have brought upon my country wil, I fear, not be realised for a decade or so more.

[@mrmanch204]

I think the implications and indeed the general intention of the 'bus message', was that we will be spending money on the NHS that will be saving by leaving. There is in fact, an interview with Bojo on the bus where he admits this is misleading. But, your point about it not being a lie is spurious to the issue and is indicative of a technicality that 'brexidiots' use to try and avoid that they have voted for a many faceted disaster, that was designed to only benefit the absolute wealthiest people. The implications of the bridge burning tragedy brexidiots have brought upon my country will, I fear, not be realised for a decade or so more.

[@johnrogers8623]

It was all about tax havens in the end.

[@0cypher0]

The net amount going to the EU is actually even less as there was also a significant amount going from the EU to the private sector in the UK through for example research grants to universities and service contracts to UK companies.

[@bokhans]

Amazing video. Being a EU citizens that follow Brexit closely I have never seen this information before. How small part of the budget the EU contribution was. What a perfect stunt this was. Painting it as a huge part of the UK budget when it wasn’t.

[@thisisnumber0]

Don't believe everything you read online.

[@meibing4912]

The biggest lie by far was that the UK would remain in the single market, that free movement would continue and the UK would have the easiest trade deals ever - starting with the US. The biggest advantage is that European's are now acutely aware of the risks and their votes will not easily harvested. People will want to know: what version of "exit" am I actually voting for? No one - not even Farage - ever campaigned for the Brexit UK voters got.

[@TheJonnyPerera]

That was a surprisingly good, really good recommendation right there. One of those "didn't know I needed it till I saw it". Thanks very much

[@jonnynexus]

Thanks! That's exactly what I was hoping for.

[@georgefarrington895]

Which MPS had something to gain by leaving ?

[@adcs88]

You missed the biggest lie - that we GAVE the EU x billions every year like it was an act of charity, not self-interest. In fact the “experts” at the CBI in 2016 said the financial benefits of membership, was that for every £1 we paid in we got £10 back and that membership was worth £3000 a year to the average U.K. family. The government’s own figures at the time said access to the single market was worth between £30 and £90 billion so again that’s an over 1000% return. But that’s experts for you, with their tedious facts and tiresome vindication.

[@jonnynexus]

Yeah, I mean I suppose I was alluding to that when I talked about if there was any negative impact it would wipe out the £8.5 billion net contribution. But I wanted to keep it to thinks that could indisputably have been said then to have been lies, and not include things that then would have been a forecast / opinion.

[@adcs88]

@@jonnynexus I understand and can see that. But for me the biggest lie (elephant-in-the-room) was always the Leavers’ unchallenged, ridiculous narrative, that we were handing over billions of pounds to the EU for no benefit. That the Remainers didn’t try to dispute this but foolishly fell into their trap of endlessly debating exactly how many billions we were “giving-away”, effectively validated the Leavers’ contention. Instead they could’ve pointed to the proven fact that our EU contributions had always been outstandingly good value for money, actually the UK’s best capital investment, providing a tenfold Return On Investment, that could help fund the NHS with many times more money - if we didn’t leave.

[@thisisnumber0]

Ah, yes. ....experts. Don't they do well?

[@adcs88]

@Oldie But Goodie Have you ever spoken to Frankie Boyle? I thought he was joking when he said "People who voted for Brexit aren’t stupid. They're just people who want to put an end to immigration from Europe because they don’t like Pakistanis." LMFAO

[@stoissdk]

3:29 So only a tiny tiny "slice" that was potentially freed up to be spend on NHS in stead... Now consider that the "pie" (technically a donut) got smaller in the years after Brexit as tax revenue was reduced, the total amount available to NHS will be even smaller. I always wondered why no-one was calling out these "lies" during the Brexit campaign - experts, media, politicians or maybe they were drowned in misdirected blame, hate and shouting aimed at the EU? As a "continental European" I simply don't get what good Brexit was supposed to do and I know I'm not alone. It's a bit like self mutilation... on a national level... for the sake of being spiteful.

[@RustyWalker]

At the time I was a reformist, and you don't reform institutions like the EU from the outside.

[@javiermitchell7073]

Jonny, as always your videos are spot on!. I like your comments about post-2016 politics: it seems not only lies are now institutionalized, but the media is very much complicit in speading them and not confronting the liers!

[@jonnynexus]

Thanks! :)

[@4tnine]

Hello javiermitchell. Referring to the slogan on the brexit bus, Jonny Nexus said it was “… the most famous lie in British political history.” NO, IT WASN’T and Jonny and his nodding followers clearly need an English lesson. The slogan says: “We send the EU £350 million a week let’s fund our NHS instead.” The first clause is a statement. There has been much discussion about the actual amount the UK’s membership was costing. It varied from year-to-year as did the amount we got back from the EU. What has become apparent is that no one knows exactly how much the UK’s membership was costing and that £350 million a week was not a gross exaggeration, it may even have fallen short of the actual amount. So no proof that anyone lied: it was fair to say that the UK did send £350 million a week to the EU and Jonny has acknowledge that fact, to quote him: “… it is true, that was our notional bill.” The second clause (“let’s fund our NHS instead”) is a suggestion. It is not a promise and it is not a pledge as Jonny appears to believe. His inability to understand this simple slogan may explain why so many like-minded remoaners do not understand what kind of organisation the EU is aspiring to become. And to prove my point, I say that you cannot give me a pertinent answer to the following question: the EU describes itself as “… a unique economic and political union,” what do YOU think is meant by the term, “political union,” what does that entail exactly and what kind of organisation do YOU think the EU is aspiring to become?

[@soapytowel1565]

You have put a lot of factual evidence into your videos and I like what you are saying very much, but for me the main reason for leaving the EU was that rich people didn’t like ATAD (anti tax avoidance directive) that was to become EU law and that member states would have to comply with. Just look at all the millionaires/billionaires that were supporting the leave campaign!

[@jamesart6568]

Yes just like Richard Branson, Bob Geldof, Gina Miller etc...

[@heyabusa1]

@@jamesart6568 Wrong on all counts. richard branson was pro-e.u./Remain. Bob Geldof was Remain and Gina Miller was loudly campaigning Remain. Surprised you didnt know. richard branson has been to bilderberg so is obviously staunchly Remain. Perhaps you should do some research into how many other billioinaire bilderbergers were financing the Remain cause. Once you've done that then ask yourself why and what their interests were.

[@jamesart6568]

@@heyabusa1 all three are Tax dodgers and yet campaigned to remain.

[@cherylsalmon8429]

Without a doubt. Some bright spark has produced a chart showing how the move towards Brexit started as soon as the EU proposed laws against EU citizens being able to hold their cash offshore to avoid paying tax on it.

[@jamesart6568]

@@cherylsalmon8429 Like Remainer Branson, Remainer, G Miller, Remainer Bono, Remainer Geldof etc...(many more) does??

[@RazorMouth]

The Brexit referendum was treated like a football match with players diving etc. Not how to have a referendum in a modern democracy I'm afraid.

[@darreno1604]

It's sad people are still going on about Brexit..... and if you are surprised politicians lie, well if you always take what politicians say is false you will never be far off.

[@wendyreed9682]

One other area in which the UK has lost out is a large help towards flood damage. Now you're on your own!

[@macmachine]

Remainers obsess about 'the bus'. Every Brexit voter I've ever spoken to says they voted instinctively for leaving. No bus slogan, promise or rallying call ever moved them. It was a heart decision. A bit like the desire for Scottish indeoendence. The economics says no, but the heart says yes.

[@L425-g1f]

wow, I didn't know half the UK had the "instinct" to get poorer ! On a more serious tone, what your saying mean that they were lead by their emotions, not by facts, which is painfully dumb when it is a vote with very real life implications for most people, and where there were no actual idea of what a real Brexit would be, even in the mind of the politicians, as we've seen in the years that followed.

[@macmachine]

@@L425-g1f You're logically right. But believing, for example, that being 'Scottish' trumps being fiscally secure is an emotion that determines behaviour. Ukrainians could - maybe should - have let Putin take over and avoid a collapsed economy, but their hearts say no, this isn't what we want. In your own words 'led by emotions, not facts'.

[@L425-g1f]

@@macmachine Ah yes, trying to say that the legislation the EU takes is the same kind of oppression or comparable to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, when most policies of the EU need most, if not all member to agree (and even more the big members, like the UK), and are mostly about standart of qualities, or protection of the citizens, and leave most decisions to the individual countries, is in some way comparable to an autocratic and kleptocratic regime invading a democratie. And about the Scottish, you would have noticed that even though they don't want to stay under the government of Britain, they whish to remain in the EU, almost as if a mostly economic and regulatory confederation hadn't the same kind of power as a country ! The Ukrainians would not had it better in the long run had they not resisted Putin, the readiness of the Russians to oppress or attack civilians, and the fact that the Russian state TV was annoncing they didn't exist, and should be killed if they don't happily consider themselves Russian, should tell much about the facts that push the Ukrainians to resist, and, in a way, to feel the emotions they feel. You ought to question why half the UK felt that living in the EU was a really bad thing, to the point economical issues really didn't matter, what made them felt like the EU was such a thing, what (and who) made them afraid of something benificial to their life to the point that they wanted to be out of it without even considering the reality.

[@macmachine]

You're still using logic to matrix a ❤ decision. Scots for Independence couldn't give a tinkers about the EU bit. Above all, they just 'want to break free' from England.' I'm a Scot and I think they're crazy. But I understand what drives them.

[@L425-g1f]

@@macmachine Emotional reactions are caused by belief, world view and news that amplifies them. "❤ decision", as you call them, don't come from some sort of instinct, but from information, that may be true or false, that may be irrelevent or important, that could change many times in your life, and that model your belief system, world view, and what you think is important or not, and that no matter if you pay attention to it or not, and it can easily make one blind from aspect of reality, harming himself and/or others even if they don't want to. That's why I think it is important to both try to understand from where your "❤ decision" come from, what could be inducing them, and trying to also consider facts that may make you change decision, because being blind to reality, even if it's because of emotion from deep inside you, is really dangerous, for yourself, your relatives and friends, and your community at large, if not more.

[@RobBCactive]

Wow! I remember working that out in 2016 & 2017. Wonder if you find even more than I did. Great job, good explanation about the fall in tax receipts. It's like having job where paying a membership lets you earn more, economising by cutting the subscription loses you money. There were lies about the whole of immigration. Sovereignty has turned out to be less not more as a result of Brexit. They said they would control borders, but still no inspections, a recent sample one found food safety breaches in every stop. Criminals are exporting to UK due to lack of phyto-sanitary inspection.

[@jonnynexus]

Yeah, this is basically all stuff that I've had in my head, that I was regurgitating at the time on on-line discussions at Brexiteers and at people in real-life, if I was able to collar them. The cards in the previous video had been carried around in my wallet for about three years (I printed new ones for the video as the old ones were a bit creased). So the sad thing is that none of this is new, or with hindsight. But maybe I feel that some years down the line, people in the neutral / middle ground area might now be more willing to listen, which is what motivated me to start making the videos.

[@RobBCactive]

@@jonnynexus I added to my post am at supermercado en españa 😆 Now we can add things like Galileo, science research funding net loss, duplication of EMA

[@ingridschmid1709]

@@jonnynexus You're right to keep it short and indisputable . You can elaborate on how the 8.5 billion are well over wiped out in another same format vid.

[@AcidGubba]

I'm really sorry that the British can no longer blame the EU. This is what happens when you fall for populists.

[@martinsepion]

Excellent analysis Jonny. One other point I would add is that the 8.5 billion also had financial benefits for the UK. Proving standardised Europe wide legislation, Machinery of Government, project and research funding.

[@jonnynexus]

Yes, agreed.

[@giansideros]

It's depressing that "culture" has a larger share than environmental spending, housing and overseas AID.

[@jonnynexus]

Well without commenting on the overall numbers, the cultural sector as a whole is a huge export services industry that earns the country a lot of money so to a certain extent, we do want the government to be investing in that.

[@giansideros]

@@jonnynexus you could say that about almost everything though, it's not to say we shouldn't have any cultural spending but you wouldn't put it ahead of health spending as an example, with the housing market and poor environmental standards of the UK, as well as challenges faced in the developing world. I don't think it's prudent or frugal to prioritise "cultural" spending over the former, when you can make similar opportunity cost arguments for saving the broad public by investing in the aforementioned instead.

[@Beliefish]

I have heared that you have about 60 billion hole in your public spending and you need to fill it up I have an idea how to do that. You have allready saved 10 billion from leaving EU. So you just need to rejoin and releave EU for 5 more times this year and your budget will be perfect. No austerity needed!

[@richardgale4827]

Excellent work, Jonny. Can you analyse the OGL next?

[@jonnynexus]

Sorry, this comment made me laugh but I forgot to reply. I am following the OGL saga with interest, but would hesitate to feel that I have an informed opinion to make. :)

[@terryvarta9306]

I am African but have always been fascinated by world politics, and thank u for simplifying Brexit lies, which every educated economist warned will be a disaster for the UK. Imagine if the European Union decides to remove the UK as the financial hub for Europe,

[@jonnynexus]

Yeah. The London Stock Exchange used to be (prior to actual Brexit at the start of 2021) the largest stock exchange in Europe in terms of volume of trades. Amsterdam has now overtaken it.

[@heyabusa1]

See my above comment. In that case the UK needs, as it still doesn't have, a nationalistic patriotic Government (instead of these globalist/bilderberger/WEF operatives) to stand up to the tyrannical e.u. and simply say the e.u. will not be selling anything else to the UK should the e.u. decide to persist in meddling in UK affairs.

[@automotivel3501]

Jonny the reason they put £18b or £350m per week is rebate comes after payment, it is not discounted off the payment. You have not LIED, but you are inaccurate! The same can be said of Grants, these are "wooden" dollars, they do not in reality exist. I.E. the Grant of £5000 to buyers, just put £5000 on the price of the EV's. give with one hand, take back with other. Any amount of extra money, is money not going to foreign parliament we did not vote for, also it is still enough to train/ employ several thousand ENGLISH doctors and Nurses. rather than the third world third rate ones the NHS imports. The NHS doesn't need more spending on it, it needs to have it's budget better spent. The only Brexit LIE, I have seen is that we have not actually left EU, they use smoke and mirrors to maintain the ECHR, to dump Millions of Parasitic Bogus Asylum seekers on us. I voted leave, the voting slip did not state Stay, Leave, leave only after six years when we have done backhanded deals to mitigate the proles who voted leave.

[@jonnynexus]

Well firstly, if we're being very technical my understanding is that technically we subtracted last years rebate from this years costs, so it means that in the first year back in the 80s, we didn't get a rebate but going forward we did, it's just that it was calculated on last year's figures. In terms of the EV grant, I'm pretty sure that's a UK government thing, and it does come off the price of the car. As with any other car, EV manufacturers are selling into a competitive marketplace, and if they don't subtract that off the cost of their car, some other manufacturer will, and people will buy their car because it's cheaper. Finally, the EU Court is the ECJ. The ECHR is a completely separate court that is part of a completely separate organisation, the Council of Europe, which predates the EU (founded in 1953, with us of founder members). And I think all European countries or members of that with the exception of I think Russia and Belarus.

[@HamnaTabuu]

ECHR - what has this to do with EU membership? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@thisisnumber0]

Money, money, money....open your mind, Brexit was about far more than money.

[@BigHenFor]

There speaks a man with money. Only the comfortable can indulge themselves with the idea that this was aboit sovereignty. The UK was and still os as sovereign as it ever was whilst it was in the EU. It NEVER gave away its sovereignty. If it had, it could not have left the EU. You really nerd to take a class in UK Constitutional Law, with another one in British Legal History. Then you might actually understand how sovereignty actually works in the real world. If it worked as you yhink, the electricity company couldnt get the baliffs in to force entry to your home, but they can. Why? Because you gave them that right by voting for the party that would pass that law. Your home isnt your castle, because in law the Crown has overriding title to your land over yours or anyone elses. Therefore officers of the Crown have the right to enter your property, only limited by law, and those are decided in parliament, which whose members you vote for. You think you understand, because you want to believe what you were told, but what you were told was wasn't true. And unsurprisingly, it's what you want to cintinue to believe. Doesn't make it true. The world you think it is died in 1945, with the Bretton Woods conference and the GATT Agreement. This treaty forms the basis of the rules of international trade. You may have heard of them. They are called WTO Rules. They formed the foundation of late stage globalisation, and modetn economic colonialism. Instead of colonies and empires, it would be cheaper and more efficient for countries tp follow one set of trade rules, that guaranteed the free movennent of goods. But, in reality it was the new global hegemon the United States wanting those rules so there would be less chance of their exports being excluded by tariffs, as they were excluded from British Imperial Markets. The US was going to lend the money to rebuild Europe, and they wanted their export goods to have access to all markets. By securing free trade, and working to a shared set of rules abd regulations, it would boost the postwar economies, and provode new markets. It started small, but as all the powerfil and rich countries followed GATT, the rest of the world so started to join GATT, whivh became the WTO. The Hard Brexit you so admire was and is no different to the WTO. As your local MP how many UK laws are shaped by WTO rules, or when was the last time Britain decoded not to abide by the WTO Court of Arbitration, or not pay their fees to the WTO. By now, you should realise that you are not seeing things as they are.

[@desertdetroiter428]

Not really. It was SOLELY about money.

[@thisisnumber0]

@You Tube The delusion is strong in this one.

[@desertdetroiter428]

@You Tube yep! Bingo!

[@Bungle-UK]

Exactly. If it was all about money, why did poorer parts of the country vote leave? It’s hard to sell the economic benefits of the EU to people whose economic prospects have got worse since we joined, regardless of the reasons. It’s much easier to worry about economic loss if you already have wealth to begin with.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*I LIVE IN BULGARIA* I make mens historical suits 1890 to 1940 - there are two products I can ONLY get from the UK that I need. NO ONE WILL SELL THEM TO ME They are made of cow horn and horse hair and therefore they are covered by LOT of new regulations the sellers won't even engage with. I spend about £500 a year on this. Times that all the thousands and thousands of other people no longer buying stuff made in the UK. I have to use plastic alternatives, which sucks.

[@Bungle-UK]

For me, there is far too much focus on ‘the bus’ from those who supported remain. Firstly, it didn’t have a promise on the side, but two statements that allowed you to infer that the money in question would go to the NHS. A lie or clever marketing? Secondly, is there evidence to show that this argument was key for many leave voters? I’d suggest the issues at play were much more complex and wide ranging on both sides. No political campaign is well known for being 100% truthful, and both the leave and remain campaigns are guilty of this. The ‘promise land’ presented by leavers was no more accurate than the ‘Armageddon’ from remainders. Both presented a vision for the future that would never be accurate because we can neither see into the future or predict any variables we may encounter (pandemic anyone?). My views (for what it’s worth) is that this was a decision already made for the majority of people and, rather like Scottish independence, those with strongly held views on either side will not change their mind based on any campaign. Remember, for many leave voters, the economic arguments were meaningless as they were already experiencing hardship, so they couldn’t see the ‘benefits’ (real or otherwise) of their existing arrangements.

[@iaingraham4911]

King 👑 country and commonwealth

[@bdcalling1391]

Billions pounds of loss of inward investment

[@violetsworlduk]

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[@robduncan599]

So we got very little in one hand and gave away much more with the other ? Only uk is stuck with this self-imposed handicap? Since you are good with numbers, how about an analysis on the effect on England/ Lesser Britain should Northern Ireland and Scotland leave the UK ? Because i belive as many do ,that at some point NI and Ireland will unite ? Many belive it's not a matter of if but when ? Then there is Scotland, we are also not too impressed with this Brexit outcome. Should NI and Scotland's Secession from UK happen in the next few years , what impact would be on England/ Lesser Britain? With Scotland on a pro EU path taking our oil and gas tax revenue along with our vast renewable energy resources with us , would this be brushed aside ? What future for a evermore isolated England/ Lesser Britain?

[@terryvarta9306]

I can answer u quickly based on my limited knowledge specifically with Scotland. A lot of Britts feel that Scottish people should be grateful to Brittain but they don't know that if Scotland leaves the union it will be a disaster for Brittain and I will tell you why. Had Scotland chosen independence in the 1970s it would have been one of the richest countries in the world. This is around the time the North Sea oil was discovered and by 1999, the UK was producing 130 million tonnes of oil per year, but even though Scotland had rights to the oil, Britain took all the profits, and from 1965 to 2016 alone Scotland's oil contributed 310billion pounds to the UK government. So just to answer your question if Scotland decides to leave right now the British government will lose control of 35billion pounds per year automatically from oil revenues as they belong to Scotland. secondly, due to the UK government controlling the energy sector, Scotland is actually losing out on around 8billions per year as it goes to the UK, because Scotland is actually moving to renewables, and also is actually considered a major power in green and renewable energy. We are not even talking about Scottish whisky which contributes to a quarter of all UK food and beverages industry revenues. Based on my studies I have the most issue is on borrowing. Scotland cant borrow money on its own, the UK does that and Scotland has no say, on how much, and where that money is borrowed but it is tasked to pay back based on agreements agreed by the UK government. Finally, if Scotland leaves the UK it will be a disaster for the UK because based on the union agreement Scotland is entitled to 10% of all UK assets across the globe, including embassies, so I can imagine Northern Ireland is also entitled to assets, That's why the UK will never agree to independence because it will collapse.

[@kevinhall8883]

Wow still thinking about it. so f***in sad.

[@cherylsalmon8429]

@You Tube As will our children...

[@gary8306]

@You Tube just like your spelling. Smh.

[@billyouka448]

KZbin recommended your excellent video

[@Loneman_OG]

A perfect breakdown of the b0ll0x bus. Subscribed. I wish people would have listened to people with a clue, such as yourself, before the vote. So many people, who were adamant that leaving would be better for us, would tell me their reasons were _"wanting Britain to be great again"_ yet couldn't say in what way or in what period of "greatness" they wanted to emulate, I guessed some time during colonialism or when there were fewer people who didn't "look like them", particularly the older ones, even if they didn't say it aloud. The other reason was undoubtedly the _"£350M to the NHS"_ lie they'd swallowed whole. There was always one thing that they all had in common when I was trying to get them to see sense, and that's the attitude that _"oh well, if it doesn't make us better off, at least we won't be any worse off, so it's worth a gamble"!_ I'm a big fellow but, I'm not a violent man, yet that's the closes I ever came to wanting to attempt slapping some sense into their gormless, thick skulls! Even more infuriating, they kept saying "they" this and "they" that when referring to the EU, and they wouldn't, or couldn't, see that _"WE"_ were a significant contingent of "they"! Many of the people I spoke to before the abortion of all sensible reasoning took place were never that ignorant or dumb or closed-minded before; it was as if they _really_ liked the taste of the new Brexsh|t Kool-Aid, and at least two of them still lap it up, too, facts-be-damned.

[@stuebear78]

Just this week came across your videos someone speaking facts about brexhit

[@Strykehjerne]

All those calculations were clearly in your face, here (on the other side of the north sea, outside the EU) in our mainstream newspapers. Nobody outside the UK can understand what you were up to. . Then again. .. you have a different system and a different budget and all that, so you just have a right to play by different rules or something 👍.

[@simonjones4891]

That maybe the case, but most leave voters just wanted to be free of European control.

[@thisisnumber0]

"We send £350m a week to the EU. Let's fund our NHS instead" Where in that does it say we will put £350m a week into the NHS?

[@BigHenFor]

I love it - victim blaming. And the British Electorate are the victims of lies, deceit, and misdirection around Brexit, and the bus was just one of them.

[@karstentopp]

Indeed. Nobody ever made a promise to make things better, it all was suggestive mind f@ckery.

[@billpugh58]

Clever wording, a scammy lie really!

[@HamnaTabuu]

Implied by the term "instead" and the lack of any other clarification as to what "instead" could mean.

[@karstentopp]

@@HamnaTabuu And still it only implies to fund the NHS by 350 millions. It could as well mean "add 1 GBP of funding to the NHS and give Russian oligarchs the rest"

[@jimbalshaw7347]

Doesn't matter the Majority Voted Leave so we left that's what happens in a Democracy as for lies all Politicians Lie all the Time or do you have selective hearing

[@kevinkenny6975]

Well said

[@wanderingtravellerAB99]

No they didn’t, it was the largest minority in a non binding referendum.

[@desertdetroiter428]

But why did the majority vote to leave? For what?

[@radman8321]

@@desertdetroiter428 Because they are thick.

[@desertdetroiter428]

@@radman8321 yep.

[@davidv.8655]

The brexit issue wasnt settled on the money we gave to the EU. Neither was anyone misled by it. The nett contribution was explained to everyone . The remain camp took great delight in explaining it time and time again. There was so many reasons to leave that had nothing to do with the money . The money we used to give was just a small bonus on top of it.

[@Belfreyite]

Really! and I suppose the utter malaise and depression we all feel, notwithstanding Covid and Putin have nothing to do with "The Money" You idiots think that huge price hikes, substandard imported goods, racketeering from Energy Companies and third-world GDPs compared to EU are all resulting from a wise decision to leave???? Wake up, you plonkers!

[@4tnine]

Hello Jonny Nexus. Referring to the slogan on the brexit bus, you say it was “… the most famous lie in British political history.” NO, IT WASN’T and you and your nodding followers clearly need an English lesson. The slogan says: “We send the EU £350 million a week let’s fund our NHS instead.” The first clause is a statement. There has been much discussion about the actual amount the UK’s membership was costing. It varied from year-to-year as did the amount we got back from the EU. What has become apparent is that no one knows exactly how much the UK’s membership was costing and that £350 million a week was not a gross exaggeration, it may even have fallen short of the actual amount. So no proof that anyone lied: it was fair to say that the UK did send £350 million a week to the EU and you’ve acknowledge that fact, to quote you: “… it is true, that was our notional bill.” The second clause (“let’s fund our NHS instead”) is a suggestion. It is not a promise and it is not a pledge as you appear to believe. Your inability to understand this simple slogan may explain why so many like-minded remoaners do not understand what kind of organisation the EU is aspiring to become. And to prove my point, I say that you cannot give me a pertinent answer to the following question: the EU describes itself as “… a unique economic and political union,” what do YOU think is meant by the term, “political union,” what does that entail exactly and what kind of organisation do YOU think the EU is aspiring to become?

[@RustyWalker]

After Brexit, we had the new lie that the majority of people in the country had voted for Brexit, which was false because the majority was for those who had voted in the referendum. The referendum did not have a 100% turnout, and those who weren't old enough to vote in that year could not express their views even if they wanted to.

[@davidv.8655]

All elections are decided by adults of voting age . What are you suggesting a 7 year old should get the vote ?. If someone of voting age doesnt vote they can never complain about the result if they dont like it. Always exercise your right to vote.

[@RustyWalker]

@@davidv.8655 That's correct, David. However, in strawmanning me, you are misunderstanding the nature of what was claimed. The claim was not, "Most voters.." It was "most people .." All voters are people, but not all people are voters.

[@hollyylloh515]

Living in the past is unhealthy 💯 sad😟for people or nation's 😟💯

[@Johnarry]

Maybe we should have a intelligent test for all things we vote ❎ on, stop the plebs voting.

[@HamnaTabuu]

Maybe an intelligence & honesty test for the people we vote for too 🤔

[@MC-cl9wz]

Get over yourselves people. We voted for Brexit in a DEMOCRATIC referendum. Remoaners need to move on and help to make the best of what we've got instead of sniping all the time.

[@juanfran579]

There is always a chance of recognizing a mistake. It's a matter of national responsibilty to steer the country and its economy in another direction. It's only a matter of time and decline that Brexiteers will realize that.

[@chappy2121]

Then after a couple of years another vote another outcome, then another. Going down that path is a non starter. Brexit was never "supposed" to happen, the people really running things have had their noses well and truly put out of joint. I would even suggest some pro-brexit mps weren't that at all. Things are being made deliberately difficult for us to get us back into Europe because they need us and our money.

[@121evans]

You must be a blind pensioner

[@Bungle-UK]

@@juanfran579 given the number of things that happened since (covid, war, global inflation etc), how can you link anything, good or bad, solely to Brexit?

[@Detector1977]

Wow, say it aint so. Who would have thought....? Seriously though, the UK will just have to accept being a smaller more narrow minded country that noone really likes....

[@121evans]

Sadly .....I have to agree with you.

[@Bungle-UK]

How is the UK smaller and more narrow minded?

[@kevinkenny6975]

Is that a RNLI badge he's wearing. What a joke

[@BillyBones59]

Maybe im a bit slow and old but whats wrong with being a supporter of the RNLI or is it you don't know why and what they do and the great support they have through out the UK.

[@karstentopp]

@@BillyBones59 Because the alternative right sees the RNLI as a taxi service for the unwanted. They would rather see the Royal Navy patrolling thwe waters with .50 cal machine guns than the RNLI with lifeboats.

[@JwayT]

Still triggered eh? Haha!

[@acerimmer1023]

Excellent video..... very well explained. I pray for the day when one of the vote leave leaders/spokespeople actually comes out and admits the great lie... Any of them.....just to admit it.....tell the truth..... I was all a grift

[@chucks6781]

I admit that the media conned most of the UK taxpayer including me

[@runeodin7237]

I think you are gonna wait for a long time...