This scene never looked quite right to me and it turns out it was probably the least accurate of the entire series.
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@jone8626Ай бұрын
They should have come up with fictional characters if they wanted to make someone look like a coward. Band of Brothers should be labelled as Fiction, or loosely based on real events.
@sammyseguin2978Ай бұрын
I have come to the conclusion that Band of Brothers should have had a "disclaimer" at its beginning stating, "the following is inspired by actual events" since there are so many errors and inaccuracies in it.
@AngryMarine-il6ejАй бұрын
There usually is at the end credits every film that is made stating it based on actual events but names were fictionalized.
@sammyseguin2978Ай бұрын
@@AngryMarine-il6ej Unfortunately Hanks and Spielberg took actual historical events, twisted them, and used real names. As we have seen several times, surviving family members have been quite upset over the portrayal of loved ones, and rightly so.
@simonkevnorrisАй бұрын
I think the worst one was Blythe who was shown as being killed when in fact he survived. The text at the end of the episode announcing his death is still there.
@bigbob7820Ай бұрын
It’s very unfortunate how some soldiers were misrepresented in Band of Brothers. Lack of research and laziness by Ambrose and the embellishments taken by Hank’s and the writers. That’s what Hollywood does best. Sad.
@magicklady82Ай бұрын
Really, they were misrepresented by Steven Ambrose since the content for 'Band of Brothers' came from his book. You'd think he'd want to get his source information correct but by the time 'Band of Brothers' came around Ambrose had the holdnmnnnlnn̈nmmmmmmu😮😮😅
@billmalecАй бұрын
Artistic license is one thing. Portraying those that fought for us incorrectly is simply writing.
@kirkmooneyhamАй бұрын
Thank you for setting the record straight on this. I wish more folks would see it. I've been pretty upset since I found out the truth about Albert Blithe a few years ago. He was a helluva soldier and his service in Korea was proof of that. I'll share this on my social media account, but I don't have a long reach there.
@illegalclownАй бұрын
Yeah, I inferred that this Lt. was supposed to be a replacement officer, since the episode was about replacements. The show portrays him as being an idiot, but as you say, we see all the other officers leading from the front. It's no different than Winters and Spiers leading the charge.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
I'm glad I got that point across.
@gregpower308Ай бұрын
Your investigative journalism is outstanding. You should be justly proud of the truth you are bringing forward to us the audience but more importantly, to the families.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that.
@herschelmayo2727Ай бұрын
Much has surfaced to tarnish Ambrose's reputation as a historian. Best classify him as a historical novelist.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Don't be too hard on him for this one though as he actually got it right. You have to remember that he also sold the Band of Brothers book rights to Hanks before the series was made. I can see why now. This whole thing, Ambrose making dreadful mistakes in the book + the series writers turning the story into a mostly fictional movie is worthy of its own documentary.
@user-cv8qe9ru8c26 күн бұрын
I wouldn't go that far. Ambrose does get quite a bit right from the larger historical perspective.
@mikehoncho7252Ай бұрын
If you're going to use real names of real people you must be 100% accurate
@alexandrel634424 күн бұрын
Norman dike was the worst.
@buyushay21 күн бұрын
Thank you for honoring these men who the series did not.
@DMUSA536Ай бұрын
Your research is so good. To bad books and movies can’t do as good a job. I understand drama and acting to bring the story alive, but blatant errors is inexcusable.
@Avoid_The_Clap-Jimmy_DuganАй бұрын
Thanks for the correction on Lt Brewer. Amazing how they missed on him
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
No worries!
@Warsage29Ай бұрын
I believe I had read in Winters book that Brewer had heard the the guys said he was a goner before they moved and was not particularly pleased with them upon his return
@csernobillahunАй бұрын
I remember that part from somwhere but I only read Band of Brothers so it might be in that (or in that too)
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
When Brewer returned later in the war he reminded the same men of the comment.
@macleuninАй бұрын
For those of us wondering what getting shot feels like, he also described it as if being hit by a baseball bat, Webster made the same analogy.
@tudyk21Ай бұрын
That is a comment that is often made by people who have been shot.
@autoguy575 күн бұрын
Thank goodness Ambrose didn’t “help” Dr. Suess on his books, I would have been scarred as a kid.
@HandyMan657Ай бұрын
I can't help but wonder why they didn't go into this story more, it's a hell of a story and would have fit in nicely except for the Bull segment in the barn. I guess they didn't want too many scenes with local Dutch helping out, so they just Indiana Jones the Lt... Shame. Thank you again for bringing all this accurate information to light, we appreciate it. Take care, keep safe
@Gitarzan662 күн бұрын
Judging by his picture at the end he never gave up his fondness for the boots.
@MK-fr4jrАй бұрын
An excellent exposè that certainly clears up any misconceptions about the events portrayed in the series. I get the notion to dramatize certain events or compress actual situations into a time constrained episode. But that should never be at the expense of an individuals character, especially if they or their family is still alive
@lyndoncmp5751Ай бұрын
Episode 4 also belittles the memory of the British tank unit (44th Royal Tank Regiment, even though they get the markings wrong). The 44th was a much more battle hardened and experienced unit than the 101st Airborne was at the time yet the episode made it appear as though they were a bunch of clueless bumbling idiots.
@teller1290Ай бұрын
But couldn't it be that one or two tanks from that unit was crewed by newbies or, for whatever reason at that moment, confused people? Why does that scene have to stand for the whole regiment being putzes?
@allandavis8201Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the recollections and truth of the events from those who were actually there, it is very interesting and informative, and I hope you continue to produce such great content.
@jsmith5278Ай бұрын
F'ing Hollywood.
@shan6021Ай бұрын
Lt. Shames was also portrayed poorly and 1st SGT William Evans. They have Evans freezing up in the plane before it was shot down. There were no survivors. They have no way of knowing what happened and it was shameful to besm this man’s name.
@skipsmoyer4574Ай бұрын
It's a great thing getting a different and hopefully much clearer picture of what really happened. Writers of historical fiction are not in it to make sure facts are straight
@timfronimos459Ай бұрын
You deserve an award, a pay raise or millions of subscribers for this video, How can Hollywood etc take such 'literary license' w a real person's life and reputation. It should be criminal.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Thanks - A million subs would be nice Lol But really, I just hate that vets can be thought of in a way that is different to who they really were and what they actually did.
@richardeschallert8526Ай бұрын
I can still recall several of my unit (myself included!) who carelessly exposed ourselves to rather dangerous situations! Fortunately, all of us survived without any serious injuries!
@gloriatg100Ай бұрын
Frank Serpico once said when they make a movie about your life you`re stuck with what they get.
@richardmeyer6946Ай бұрын
Any film that starts off with, "a true story", or "based on actual events", well, just butter the popcorn. It may have some truth, but by and large it is going to be the subject of the writer's literally license. Back in the 1980's there was a TV movie based on a "true story" about the U. S. Cavalry shooting "surplus" horses because the Army was transitioning to armor. It supposedly took place in 1934. The Army still trained cavalry until 1944 when the cavalry divisions were dismounted and converted to infantry Hench, the 1st Cavalry Division entered combat in the Philippines as infantry). The School of Cavalry wasn't disbanded until shortly after WW2. At that time all Army mounts were transferred to the Department of Agriculture and were sold to riding stables, mounted units of large city police departments, The Park Service for backwoods patrols and individuals. A few were retained for ceremonial units like at Arlington. The whole movie was pure fiction but announced as a true story". Movies should never be accepted as truth, only as entertainment.
@jeffbosworth8116Ай бұрын
Winters was an excellent tactician and in many ways a good leader - but he sure played favorites and didn't seem to want to let anyone in his inner circle once it was established. I wonder what F & G companies thought of him as battalion commander with his obvious favoritism of Easy?
@THE-michaelmyersАй бұрын
I 100% agree that unless circumstances dictate differently, when you want to dramatize ignorance don't use real people. I never served in combat. At 66 I do remember conversations with WW2 and Korean War vets. One such Vet started his career in the closing months of WW2 and ended it after his 2nd tour in Vietnam as a full Colonel. He told me stories where he lost Officers under this command in both Korea and Vietnam because they would not listen to the senior NCOs assigned to them. I can't remember the actual number, but I understand the lifespan of a newly assigned shavetail in Vietnam was statistically VERY SHORT!
@knothead5Ай бұрын
Personally know of one senior NCO who was ignored by his CO in VN. Disaster. The most dangerous thing in the world is a second lieutenant with a map!
@user-zg7lz8ds8oАй бұрын
Thank you for bringing the numerous truths to light regarding the liberties that were taken with the character of various historic figures for “entertainment purposes.” Many of these changes were coarse and did not redound positively to the actual events. The families are right to be upset, and once again Hollywood doesn’t give a shit.
@severanfenrir4051Ай бұрын
It should be remembered that a lot of things from the book and series come from recollections of Veterans. I apologize but as many of us can understand our character and actions as perceived and understood by those around are sometimes if not usually misunderstood if not negatively perceived by them. We shouldn’t outright blame the books or series for some of these stories, despite the fact they may be slanderous in way. I know I wouldn’t want negative portrayals of me out there and would prefer they be dispelled but I can understand how they make it into the narrative
@OldWolfladАй бұрын
Welcome to the 'inaccurate' club. Us Brits have had to put up with Hollywood type bullshit for decades
@darylhoskins5696Ай бұрын
In what way?
@as_dust_dancesАй бұрын
@@darylhoskins5696The movie U-571 is a perfect example.
@darylhoskins5696Ай бұрын
@@as_dust_dances Yea I know that was Bullshit ,just Entertainment
@OldWolfladАй бұрын
@@darylhoskins5696 Where to start............the lack of appreciation about D-Day (its all Omaha..........to a degree understandable), the lack of appreciation of what the British-Canadian sector faced in terms of Panzer Divisions on D-Day, the over-exaggeration and constant character-assassination of Montgomery (some is justified), the lies about Nijmegen Bridge and Market Garden (don't want to open up a can of worms there are numerous threads about it), the constant "we saved your ass" stuff. I've watched lots of WW2 US Institute presentations and the anti-British stuff is staggering.
@lyndoncmp5751Ай бұрын
@@OldWolflad The recent Masters Of The Air series also mocks and belittles the RAF in a number of scenes.
@davidcoleman757Ай бұрын
You are performing a valuable service to the memory of these men. I'm not surprised their families were outraged by the show; the way they were portrayed was disgraceful. Isn't it strange that the facts were changed for narrative effect, yet the actual events were more dramatic than those depicted? The civilians rushing to help, and the banter between the two wounded men would have made a better story.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Exactly right
@Pops1959Ай бұрын
I can only imagine how I would react if Hollywood misrepresented the honorable actions of a family member. It’s totally unacceptable.
@fus149hammer5Ай бұрын
It's a regular thing. Think how Cameron did a character assassination on First Office Murdoch of the Titanic. Claiming he shot passengers then committed suicide. There's absolutely no evidence of any of this and don't forget he has living relatives.
@KOHTAOMURDERSDEATHISLANDАй бұрын
👍👍 I love your dedication to the truth. The BoB series required enormous resources to create but I am becoming increasingly dismayed by the writers’ and producers’ on again off again relationship with accuracy. It would have taken very little effort to get the stories right in light of the massive budget. They should have hired some people such as you.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Thanks mate as always. The frustrating thing is they didn't need to write anything. The actual stories are far more interesting. The biggest problem is they only used Ambrose' book as source material outside of talking to the vets who most of the time did not even know what happened to someone in another platoon. I wonder if they ever spoke to Al Mampre? It doesn't sound like it.
@calvanoni5443Ай бұрын
Well now that i know of the glaring discrepancies, im appalled!
@caseygm70Ай бұрын
The photo at 6:06 is not Brewer, but rather Joe Toye.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
I looked at this for hours. I read that they looked very similar and there are plenty of photos of Toye out there and that one is not credited to him. I can only find that other photo of Brewer in his later life. Do you know of any other photos of him? I stand corrected if it is Toye.
@gijoemastersАй бұрын
See when people read Band of Brothers, I also highly encourage them to read the memoirs and books written by the actual men like Webster, Winters, Shifty, Malarkey, Compton, Guarnere & Heffron. It gives clarity and corrects some of the errors written in the BoB. I know Ambrose got a lot wrong about the exploits of Easy Company and I'm in no way defending what he got wrong, but I do give him the benefit of the doubt because of who he interviewed, the information they had at the time, and trying to write an entire Company's story in one book without having it be 1,000 pages. It is sad and a disservice that some of the events and men of the Company were portrayed so poorly. But also in a weird way I can see where Ambrose went wrong which in turn lead to Hanks and Spielberg getting it wrong as well.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Yes it was definitely a chain reaction and the vets shouldn't have threatened to pull their input if the story wasn't told a certain way.
@gijoemastersАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth I get what you mean it’s important to get the stories right, but the series will always hold a special place for me.
@davidreece5867Ай бұрын
If Ambrose had been merely a novelist trying to write a historical novel, he could get the benefit of the doubt. However, he was a historian with a doctorate and a professor of history. His main objective should have been to write a story that was historically accurate, not to tell a good story.
@KilldoomrodarАй бұрын
Ooo I never thought him stupid for doing that but it is nice to know what actually happen. Unfortunately now I think what the show had him do was stupid… how it actually happened would have been a better portrayal of what war was like. Never getting to rest. Your always on point
@tonylittle8634Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing and guarding the truth.
@tudyk21Ай бұрын
When I realized how much maligned Lt. Dike was in the context of the attack on Foy, I commented that "I hope Ambrose's gilded tombstone is worth it ". I see now that Hanks and Spielberg are also guilty. That's the appropriate word, guilty, in my estimation.
@tudyk21Ай бұрын
I'm glad I never watched "Greyhound". It is probably rife with bullshit, too!😂
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
I watched that the other night. It was a decent film though I'm not sure how accurate it was.
@AngryMarine-il6ejАй бұрын
They say the first casualty of war is the 'truth'. Stephen Ambrose's blatant disregard for the truth in the 'Band of Brothers' book is evidence enough. I would like to see some coverage like this for the "Pacific" miniseries. Stephen Ambrose's son, Hugh Ambrose, was the project consultant. If he was anything like his father, then there are bound to be a great number of flaws and inconsistencies. Oddly enough, he suffered the same fate as his father, he passed from cancer.
@fus149hammer5Ай бұрын
I've read Eugene Sledges book and I'm currently reading Robert Leckies. There's definitely a conflict between the series and their own accounts such as Sledge had his nickname from boot camp not given to him on Pelielu by SNAFU. Also Leckie wasn't involved in the looting of army supplies and definitely didn't help himself to an officers moccasins. My suspicion is they amalgamated various events simply in order to tell a story. It's stupid because the actual events as recalled by the veterans are far more graphic and interesting than anything a screen writer could come up with.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
I will get to the Pacific and Masters of The Air in time. I have done one video on Sledge explaining his time between joining the marines and arriving at King Co. There is a lot to unpack with Band of Brothers.
@AngryMarine-il6ejАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth I hear you. No rush man, you're doing good work getting the real story out.
@AngryMarine-il6ejАй бұрын
@@fus149hammer5 I read both "With the Old Breed" and "Helmet for My Pillow" while I was still in the Marines myself. When I first became aware of the 'Pacific', I bought a copy. As I read it, I noticed some very poor editing and numerous grammatical errors in addition to inconsistencies with the original sources.
@sprprops1Ай бұрын
Ambrose had decades to write his book. The series production pulled off an entire eto airborne recreation based off of said book in about 2 years. It was also 1999 so i don't fault Hollywood interns from not being able to locate and interview every single veteran especially since many didn't want to talk about their experiences only for them to finally open up after the fact.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Then make up names if you are unsure of what you are stating. They had to know the truth would come out some day.
@charlesgantz5865Ай бұрын
Winters, in his book, says that he instructed Brewer a hundred times in training not to walk in front the way he did or "he would get it". Brewer chose to take off the way he did. No explanation about why, just a statement of fact. Also, Brewer was one of the three members Easy that were at Lewis Nixons funeral, including Winters, who gave the eulogy.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Which of his books? I never read that in his memoirs - only that he tried to radio him to get him to fall back.
@charlesgantz5865Ай бұрын
@@War_And_Truth It's in "Beyond Band of Brothers: The War Memoirs of Major Dick Winters". The references, in the Kindle edition, are mainly around pages 124 - 125 and 251 - 252, and page 276.
@davidmccarter9479Ай бұрын
They made Brewer look like a jerk. Totally unfair. Tom Hanks, where are you? Life’s a box of chocolates!
@user-zg7lz8ds8oАй бұрын
Well, keep in mind that Tom Hanks portrayed a mentally questionable cuckold who got handed Jenny’s child from another man as if it were his. So Tom Hanks doesn’t mind veterans being portrayed as fools.
@DCS_World_JapanАй бұрын
Exaggerating the truth is exactly how they approached Masters of the Air as well.
@DontwlookatthisАй бұрын
Ive written before and you know I am 100% in agreement with you, but noting the historical response of Truth in the movies is to rewrite it to make a movie far distant from the truth so that they can tell a story understood by an audience in a short period of time... It would have been a lot better for everyone if the screen writers had just created fictional characters to be antagonists to truth. Well, sadly, Saving Private Ryan is the same way with fictitious characters presenting a fictitious scenario in the way battles were fought just after D-Day. If I remember correctly, the Critics were calling the movie Speilburg's boyhood dream. Makes me wonder about Schindler's List. And it is all so sad, the truth is much stranger than the fiction they created. One thing I noticed, having read Cornelius Ryan's The Longest Day is that everthing that is show comes straight out of the things people saw through out the entire storming of D-Day at Omaha Beach and makes me wonder if the writers gave homage to Ryan by naming the movie Saving Private Ryan. Sure, bad things happened all over Omaha beach, but the ones portrayed came from the book. The story you are telling from the memoirs of men there are far more interesting and scary than the show.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Thanks for that.
@-_-----Ай бұрын
YOOO!!! Why did B.O.B. screw with the true events!? With the Civilians, the Rescue, the Banter, the Recovery..... the real story was 20x more interesting!! Also: Survived after being shot in the neck 😬😬 If there "wasn't much blood", i wonder where Brewer was shot. Must have grazed his windpipe or neck-muscles or something. If that was an artery hit, he would've bled like in the series.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Mampre mentioned that it was just under his chin so yeah through the muscle.
@lemmdus2119Ай бұрын
I think the actual story is better than what was shown.
@mrgnr-smith387Ай бұрын
The series certainly did Brewer dirty I agree with many here that if you’re going to depict something like that road scene for dramatic purposes, then ffs use a fictional name
@TrickiVicBB71Ай бұрын
So they got everything wrong for this scene. But probably the whole episode to.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Yes I'm doing a video on this episode as its wrong in its entirety.
@otten566617 күн бұрын
Sounds like the real story is more interesting than what they showed in the series.
@tudyk21Ай бұрын
9:30 My thought is that Brewer was treated like a throwaway character.
@rolfvanas2397Ай бұрын
Only reason anybody on here speaks of Lt. Brewer is because of band of brothers
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Better to not mention the guy than rub his name in dirt.
@al488jАй бұрын
Never watch TV for historical accuracy, it is for entertainment. B.O.B was good but gives the impression that Easy Company won WWII by itself. I have nothing but respect for our veterans but i prefer to learn my facts from reading books by different authors, its far more informative.
@ronyoung3623Ай бұрын
They shouldn’t use real people and their names if they are not going to tell the truth. Sad to see that they did that.
@wolfdog726523 күн бұрын
Nuenen is pronounced Núnen. Do the U Like you pronounce Tunic for example. Great content. I’ve read a few books on the guys. Greetings from the Netherlands.
@vortega472Ай бұрын
I like this series - I hope you will give us insight on two other officers portrayed in the HBO mini-series that may have been gotten the short end of the stick. Such as Lt. Jack Foley and the criticism in the show via Winters: "he's seen too many war movies; thinks he has to yell all the time." Quick note - he was played by Jamie Bamber who went on to play Lee Adama in the revival of Battlestar Galactica. Incredible the talent that went on from this show, even in small roles, the casting department must be worth their weight in gold. And Lt. Thomas Peacock - who in the mini-series Winters says: "God bless him no one tries harder..." Of course, the criticism of Peacock might have been on the nose as in David Kenyon Webster's book he was not very impressed with Peacock.
@LuckabyАй бұрын
The Foley quote (if you mean the one in 'The Breaking Point' where Winters is discussing possible replacements for Dike) was about Shames - not Foley
@vortega472Ай бұрын
@@Luckaby You're right, how could I confuse him with Shames as that seems like the only time we hear about him. Okay now I want the real stories on all three.
@LuckabyАй бұрын
@vortega472 it's easy to mix up the Jr Lt's as thru are hardly featured- except for Tom Hamks son!
@Badmagix23Ай бұрын
They could of fixed my biggest complaint with just a small alteration of the scene, everyone hops off of the tanks and starts moving toward the town along the ditches on the side of the road, out of nowhere a shot rings out and Brewer is hit. something like contact is yelled, and the scene continues with easy company moving into town. The main issue for me is the character assassination, historical inaccuracy to some extent is a given for a TV series. What is unnecessary is to tarnish the names of real people with things they didn't do, and then paint them as careless idiots who do things an average layperson can see as idiotic.
@robertsakay587Ай бұрын
A smart officer would not stand in the open with a map case and binaculars.
@justme8340Ай бұрын
Well if that’s the actual story then that version would have been far more interesting to me on screen.
@bradleynichols4909Ай бұрын
Never try to learn history by watching Hollywood movies. Some are better than others but I still wouldn’t trust them.
@jackbronskyАй бұрын
The wirters and producers of the series were not alone in their omissions. Ambrose was guilty of some glaring inaccuaracies as well. The series contains ascribed the taking of Hitler's mountain retreat, the Eagles Nest, to the members of Easy Company of the 101st Airborne Division, who were the focus of the series. This comes right out of Ambrose's book. I know this scene is inaccurate because Hitler's Eagles Nest was captured by Lt. John Frohbergh and his platoon of seven enlisted men from Love Company of the Seventh Army's Third Division. The capture of the Eagles Nest and the surrounding town of Berchtesgaden by the 3rd Division, is well documented in the 1946 regimental history of the Seventh Army by Nathan William White and the 1945 official history of the 3rd Infantry Division by Journal Press. It appears from the military history books that there was a race to capture the Eagles Nest between the Seventh Army, the 101st Airborne and Second French Armored Division. The 3rd Division's commanding officer, Major General O'Daniel, on his own initiative, executed a brilliant maneuver, capturing the only two bridges remaining on the Saalach River, leading to the approaches of Berchesgaden. The 101st and the French 2nd were not so lucky. The 3rd Division, with Love company in the vanguard, attacked the town and captured Hitler's retreat. I have, many times, thought about John standing there in the center of the disintegrating Nazi empire, gazing out at the ruined landscape in that beautiful country. It saddened me to see the recreation of that historic moment written and filmed inaccurately.
@derf-vr1fcАй бұрын
The story the medic just related -regarding the incident- would have made a good episode.
@richardthomas3056Ай бұрын
Ambrose was a bit of a hack. Having taken a degree in history, I’m always a little weary of popular history being fully researched.
@plantfeeder6677Ай бұрын
So after hearing this, what happened to Bull Randall and this story was two different places and times? I know if the truth is out there, you'll find it. Steven Speilberg and Tom Hanks owe apologies to a lot of families. Stephen Ambrose too, but at least it appears he got this one right.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Yes they essentially combined two different actions neither of which happened anything like the real events.
@maikelvane5185Ай бұрын
As i remember (correctly) from Winters book Beyond Band of Brothers. The whole scene isn’t right. They were advancing through a field instead of a road. And no armor supporting them? But i’m not sure. Winters described he would get himself shot though. As Brewer was acting like an officer. (Waving with his arms/or pistol carry)
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
The whole episode is wrong really. I'll be doing a video on it.
@maikelvane5185Ай бұрын
@@War_And_Truth exactly. I guess the locations and stories too. But yeah, they have to make some compromises to make it a series. Technic wise.. With poor results in the end.
@johnb9394Ай бұрын
I didn't see where it said Band of Brothers was a documentary? Making a movie is not telling history. It would be boring and no one would watch it. Quit being a Karen.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
The real events are far more interesting than anything the writers have come up with. Are you happy for veterans to have their reputations tarnished? If so that's far worse than being a Karen.
@LuckabyАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth the problem is this is based on people's accounts and memories. There will always be disputes over history. but the way to judge is is that each person remembers their own truth - whereas facts are things that can be proved by factual evidence.
@Jande228Ай бұрын
Amazing!
@flyoverkid55Ай бұрын
It has become clear over time that Band of Brothers is more of a fictional recounting based upon recollections than a portrayal of fact. Disappointing to say the least.
@roncarlyle8572Ай бұрын
Sounds like they should have done more research.
@user-lp1fj3ny9vАй бұрын
Yes, slugging through hundreds of historical documents, speaking to dozens of veterans who are trying to recall accurately events that happened forty/fifty years ago. The laziness of Ambrose and the minimal effort he went into during the three years it took him to write the book. Shame shame shame. Look here, Bob Brewer was a replacement officer within Easy Company, having been sent to infantry from mortars. Just because he was an officer in the 506th doesn’t mean he wasn’t a replacement in Easy Company. He was replacing Harry Walsh was 1st Platoon commander. I think you will find that a majority of junior American officer in 1944-45 were commissioned in 1942 or 43. Brewer got shot in Holland, his platoon thought he was a gorner, and they were surprised many months later when he turned up alive and well having recovered from his wound. In the book Brewer even recalls his men saying he was stuffed. In a production as big as Band of Brothers you are never gonna get all the people who were in Easy Company happy with everything in the book and in the show because you have dozens of points of view. Everyone had a personal story and not every story could be gone into in exacting detail.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
He was actually leader of 3rd platoon (Ambrose got that wrong I have just discovered). And he wasn't a replacement, he was transferred. Big difference. Winters wasn't a replacement when he took over command of Easy or 2nd battalion.
@user-lp1fj3ny9vАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth Transferred from outside of Easy Company into Easy Company to replace another officer. Are you annoyed at the word replacement in the sense that in the US military in WW2 replacements went through Repple Depple’s to replace combat casualties, and Brewer was already serving within the 506th? Because I’m sure that the men would have considered anyone new to the company after d-day as replacements.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v Anyone from 2nd battalion or even the 506th would not have been considered a replacement. Especially one who had fought in Normandy.
@user-lp1fj3ny9vАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth You are kidding right? He replaced someone in Easy Company. It is the word Replacement you have trouble with. If Ambrose said he was transferred you would have been happy. If you were in the infantry, wounded, recovered after a certain amount of time you were sent to,a replacement depot and then sent to the front line as a replacement. If you were transferred in from anywhere outside of a Company into the Company you were put under the blanket term replacement. And the details of Brewer being wounded are covered by Ambrose in BOB the book. The events after him being wounded are not accurately conveyed because it is a TV show based on historical events and they put two event together to create a scene. Tons of stuff happened to Easy Company in Holland that are not covered in the show. But I know you get your context by picking holes in a 30 year old book and a 20 year old TV program that didn’t being to light all the information that has come forward in the last 20-30 years due to the popularity of the program and the abundance of materials inspired by others cashing in on the subject.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v Lol ok mate
@esbam2002Ай бұрын
It's Hollywood and happens. I've learned to accept it. Same with that portrayal of Allison Digby Tatham-Warter, 1st Parachute Brigade XO at Arnhem, vs his portrayal in the movie, A Bridge Too Far, as Major Harry Carlyle.
@andrewfischer8564Ай бұрын
i saw an interview with the american major he said the portayal is actually pretty acurate... the major pulled out a pistol and the tank guy just retreated into his tank
@andrewfischer8564Ай бұрын
@@martinables no if i can find the clip id post it here
@frederickjohnsen4246Ай бұрын
I would be so pissed if I or my relative were so malaligned by something claiming to be factual representation. The are very few things I can watch from Hollywood and this was one of them but now it’s going in the garbage. I want nothing to do with Mr. Playmountain or Tom Fakes.
@michaelw3927Ай бұрын
Not compelling. Being an “assistant” platoon leader of a mortar platoon is not normal. Being an assistant of any platoon is not normal. There is a single lieutenant assigned to each platoon, and there were normally not enough to fill all the positions. Maybe on the initial jump on D -Day they might double slot in anticipation of casualties, but not after that. It is an indicator of a known problem, not proof of “combat experience.” I concur that real names should not have been used for those men that might embarrass the surviving family members. Don’t know the real story of the man, just the lack of strength of some of the arguments presented.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
What lack of strength? Its all facts. The 506th had assistant platoon leaders throughout the war. I did a video on the Easy Company's structure a while back. A lot of the time the position was filled by the NCO's. It wasn't until they were in Germany that they didn't worry so much about it. 2nd Lt Henry Cowing was assistant leader of 2nd platoon in Austria for example. The combat experience was referring to Brewer fighting in Normandy and not being an inexperienced blow in like he was portrayed.
@richardn.thompson8457Ай бұрын
Your vids are great! But they make the license Hanks and company took with the truth very disappointing. They go beyond artistic license to the point of BS. Telling the story of Brewer’s wounding and the medic’s courage would have made a great story!
@dirus3142Ай бұрын
Episode 4 has always been the weakest in the series. It really botches portraying Market Garden. I honestly thing staying close to the real events would have been better on screen. Might have been cheaper by not using the armor, or at least differently. Brewer in the context of the show is portrayed as a newbie Lt you expect to be killed because of naive risk taking. By attaching Brewer's name to that character they do a disservice to Brewer, and scant portrayals of the 2nd, and 1st Lts of the company outside 3 main officers. I love this series. It's growing popularity for young youtubers are giving them heroes they need to look up to. But mistakes, or "artistic license" taken has a danger of leaving a sower note on it.
@fus149hammer5Ай бұрын
So the true story of what these men went through is far more interesting than how it was portrayed in BoB. Real courage that was badly overlooked. As much as I love the series the more I learn about its inaccuracies the more I believe it's heading towards fiction and not history.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
Yes you really don't need to change the actual story as its usually far more interesting. Its the writers trying to be 'creative'.
@gcollier469 күн бұрын
It's television!!!! If course it's embellished. You realize that WWE wrestling is fake???? 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@War_And_Truth9 күн бұрын
WWE wrestling is not based on real people. They are characters. If you tell real peoples stories you need to stick to facts. I hope you get that.
@ColinH1973Ай бұрын
Am I the only person in the world who thinks that Tom Hanks is overrated?
@jamesconkey1480Ай бұрын
Okay. I'm out
@krieg3736Ай бұрын
i highly recommend using actual voicing. this AI voice acting is shit.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
The problem is I'm deaf and cant speak. AI is a lifeline for me as a video with no sound and subtitles is not much good.
@lyndoncmp5751Ай бұрын
@War_And_Truth Its a shame you have to keep telling people this over and over. I applaud your patience with them.
@War_And_TruthАй бұрын
@@lyndoncmp5751 They aren't to know. I doubt many people have a narrator type voice in any case. That would probably be worse. I see a lot of subtitles full of umm's and err's.
@zen4menАй бұрын
@@War_And_Truth Hello War & Truth, First, "well done!" for powering through your disability, and doing something creative. Second, of all the AI voices, this is one of the better ones - clear and mellow, and lacking the "deadness" many AI voices have. Third, some AI voices are so dead and monotonous, those of us who are alive (!) reach a point in a video where we just cannot hear any more of it. It is as if the "deadness" is transferring itself to my brain, and I can feel it, so it becomes sufficiently repulsive that I must leave. Fourth, you have one more subscriber. Best wishes, and a Zen-Hug, Zen
@Happy11807Ай бұрын
THANK YOU THESE MEN WERE ALL HEROES,THANK GOD THEY WERE ON OUR SIDE!