WHICH AIRPLANE IS BETTER? | Cessna 172 vs Diamond DA40 NG | FULL Comparison

[@zacharyg568]

I own and operate both Cessnas and a DA40, and have thousands on hours in both combined. This video was fantastic. Diamond is incomparably superior though !

[@FLYBOY123456789]

Agree 100%...

[@samuelkundael3503]

The doors speak for themselves, one opens like a ferrari and the other a honda. I want the one with cool doors 😅

[@Spastuscat]

Has there been any concern brought up about egress from a flip-over accident in the diamond? I know it would certainly be exceedingly rare, but would stink to be trapped in the airplane after a crash with the possibility of fire all around you and no way to get the doors open. Hopefully the windows would also pop out in the accident.

[@fkntourist]

@@Spastuscat the back door disconnects at the hinge after pulling the emergency exit lever. And there is also an emergency glass breaking “hammer” underneath the passenger seat for use on the canopy glass.

[@Spastuscat]

@@fkntourist Thanks! I figured there had to be something like that, but I've never seen it mentioned.

[@AllenPortman]

It is difficult digesting that a cessna 172 or Diamond DA40 are over half million dollars. I believe it has become obvious that GA has become completely out of reach for the common middle-class hard working person. It is simply ridiculous the cost of aircraft -- even an old junker.

[@Not_Lewis]

Unfortunately aviation will always remain a niche industry with thoroughly limited market participants compared to other markets, and unfortunately the cost is increasing significantly every year. The "entry fee" into this market is already restrictive and dare I say "exclusive". Flight training is expensive and not available to everyone due to cost, medical deferments, etc. Many people do not have $20,000-$30,000 of disposable income to get their Private Pilot's license either. So simply by this initial requirement does a limited number of people exist that are pilots. To that end, According to the FAA only 840,000 people have active airmen certificates as of 2023. 300k of which are student pilots. Ignoring the student population as they are likely using rentals, lets assume that no student pilot is buying a brand new airplane, that would leave only 500k people in the US out of 300 million that are even qualified to potentially buy a brand new Cessna or Diamond. And yet, in 2023 only 180 Cessna 172's were sold. 750,000 Ford F150's were sold that same year, for comparison.

[@archer494]

especially on the used aircraft market there are several planes which are relatively affordable. The stringent safety regulations and often low hours on GA planes make the age quite differently than cars and a 50-year old Cherokee is often a perfectly pleasant plane. In addition in Europe ULs are slowly replacing recreational GAs That said: if I were in a position to buy a new plane I certainly wouldn't buy something as old-fashioned as a C172.

[@athensdawgsuga3815]

Thats why you rent

[@thonatim5321]

The price of aircraft (or any goods & services really) is defined by what the market will bear. In a commodity driven industry there is not one person or company that sets the price. The price is set by you and me and the rest of our aviation friends. Not everyone can afford (nor should they) an airplane. It is not intended to be for use by the "middle class" because the "middle class" does not have the resources. I tell my students that the reason there are Chevys and Cadillacs. Not everyone can afford a Cadillac, nor should they. I suggestion is for the "middle class" to get more high demand education (STEM) and earn more money. Then that person can transition to the "Upper Middle class" where they can afford an airplane or Cadillac.

[@MGMidget73]

​@@athensdawgsuga3815As someone with rotorcraft and fix wing ratings the big draw back is if you fly on vacation you are stuck paying a daily minimum when the aircraft is parked.

[@geertnoels7212]

I learned to fly in a C172 and now I have a DA40NG. Both are excellent trainers, but a DA40NG is superior, as it is a plane of a new age.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Congrats on your airplane! Couldn't agree more. It's always fun to watch Skyhawk pilots make the transition.

[@Just_Viktor]

Can you explain me, which one is better to get PPL?

[@tyjohnson7428]

​@@Just_Viktor PPL end goal or CPL end goal ? DA40NG is a terrible move for cpl. There's no mixture or prop control which is easier to fly but most employers won't touch a low time pilot without the experience with mixture and prop control as most airplanes still used today have those features

[@jamesburns2232]

Most employers won't hire a pilot without jet or turbojet time. 🤠

[@salazarbernardo]

What about the maitanence cost and availability for the composite airframe? I heard it's a pain in the ass to repair, even minor cracks are a huge deal for your wallet... Is that true?

[@urhiredhr421]

I've known several salesmen in my life but you, by far, are a leader in the aviation field. You have focused my attention onto a "new" product similar in use but with so many updated features. Yes, the Cessna is an industry standard however it is time for others to shine such as the Diamond. It is an exceptional machine with a ton of desirable features! Stunning comparison and notably the Diamond is a star.

[@onebravotango]

John Armstrong, your insightful comparison between the Diamond DA40 NG and the Cessna 172 S is truly illuminating. Your breakdown of their history, design, materials, and features showcases how these two aircraft have evolved to cater to different needs and eras.

[@stevecastro22]

The safety of the Diamond is a HUGE factor in these two models. I have a few hundred hours in a 172, but in my opinion, the DA40 far surpasses it. Great video!

[@JetsiahPOV]

Until you flip the planes during a emergency landing, good luck getting out of a DA40. C172 would be no issue getting out in a upset emergency.

[@grayrabbit2211]

@@JetsiahPOV You're right - - you'd have no issue getting out of the C172 because you'd be dead from the aircraft crumpling like a spam can. Take a look at the safety records of both aircraft. The DA40 may not last 50+ years like a C172 due to it being a plastic plane, but while it's flying it'll keep you very safe. The front seats are part of the structure of the aircraft.

[@dwaynemcallister7231]

@@grayrabbit2211 Well it all depends on how you strike the surface, my friend flew a Cessna 206 into the rocky shore of Hudson Bay at cruise speed, the airplane was destroyed and it burnt leaving only ashes in the shape of a aircraft, he was able to exit as it started burning when they rescued him he was ok

[@kjelle5350]

The cessna would give you a fuel shower, if you land a little too hard.

[@DanielWilliams-oi4ss]

For what it’s worth, composite can last a very long time if cared for properly (and often even when it’s not). Tons and tons of fiberglass boats from the 70s still around.

[@n118nw]

Having flown both and given instruction in both, I'm partial to the DA40... however the 172 is still a great aircraft and you can't go wrong with either.

[@bretthines4257]

I started my flight training in the 172’s back in the ‘80’s. When I came back to flight training in ‘08 I found the DA-40’s and fell in love. The feel of flying the aircraft felt more natural. It was very easy to pick up. The school I finished my training in offered both the 172 and DA-40, but there was a price difference. And it was well worth it. My dream now is to find shared ownership in one. Heck, win the lottery and get the DA-62❤.

[@quarkkinoanimals5444]

One of the best reviews ever seen. Literally. From airplanes, cars, pc, you name it. This should be a manual for everyone. Thank you.

[@harmonised8353]

I love everything about Diamonds... and definitely want to own one!

[@alexandrebachmann9672]

I really loved this video. Showing the upside of the DA40 without badmouthing the competitor. Really well done.

[@bossymodo]

One thing about the DA40 concerns me about safety. When I was a student pilot somebody was talking about a Piper Tomahawk for sale and my flight instructors comment was "It's a deathtrap. You can not recover from a spin." I was discussing that with somebody who told me he was one of very few people who ever recovered from a spin in a Tomahawk and it was because his father was a better pilot than he was and told him that on the count of 3 they needed to lean forward hard and fast to change the center of gravity to break the stall and get out of the spin. They were lucky. There is not enough airflow over the surface of the elevator with a T tail to get the nose down to break a stall. Just because a plane is not rated for spins does not mean that they will never enter a spin.

[@Sorarse]

I have done many (deliberate) stalls and spins in a T-tailed aircraft, and never had a problem recovering to normal flight. It's unfair to imply that all T-tail aircraft are unrecoverable from a spin.

[@eclectichoosier5474]

The problem with spins in the Tomahawk isn't getting out of them. It's with people who panic and come out of them too abruptly. Pulling up to recover can overstress the aircraft. You have to let the spin develop, then recover smoothly and gently. (Obviously, this is not a good thing on an approach stall/spin.)

[@geoffreytofte4049]

I believe cirrus POH says if you enter a spin , pull the oh $h!t handle aka the parachute

[@eclectichoosier5474]

@@geoffreytofte4049 I've flown Cirrus. The manual pretty much tells you that as long as you're above four or five hundred feet above the ground, any major problem is grounds for pulling the handle. Not too long ago, a Cirrus lost engine power taking off from an airport very close to my home. They tried to land in a cornfield, but the ground was too soft; the plane flipped, and both occupants died. Edited to add: Judging by the ADS-B data, they were high enough to pull the parachute when the engine started having trouble. It is likely that they were high enough to pull it when they realized that they wouldn't make it back to the airport, and decided to attempt landing in the field. Pilots are human, and humans have a hard time being rational when under pressure. There is a tendency to fix a situation rather than do something that they know will damage the plane (pulling the parachute definitely damages the plane.) We forget that the plane is ultimately disposable. It can be replaced. It is much more important to protect the people inside, who can't be replaced. As to spins -- If you're high enough, you can recover from a spin. Try that first. If it doesn't work, then you pull the handle. If you don't have the altitude, then pulling the handle is the first response.

[@bgmstudiosng]

@@eclectichoosier5474 lol @ first par.

[@robertdeppe4504]

Owning a 172N with a CD155 retrofit. That’s a great combination- more power and range for less noise! The DA 40 is extremely nice with an efficient airframe. I like instructing and flying more the DA 40 2.0S with the CD155. This configuration of the Mercedes Diesel Engine is much lighter resulting in a even better handling and power characteristics then with the heavy Austro Engine. Nice comparison video😊

[@billb6283]

I enjoyed that Comparison. And I'm not even a pilot. It's nice to see the advancements made over the span of 70 years.

[@Maddog-wm5xi]

As someone who got my PPL, IR, and CSEL in the DA40 I can say that I fell in love on my very first flight, its a very easy aircraft to fly; the only problem I had transitioning from a 152 was when I would pull WAAAY too much on my flare, the pushrods really do make more precise inputs. Also transitioning into the DA-42 for my CMEL was a breeze and I loved it even more than the 40. I flew at a school that LifeStyle is very familiar with and my have something to do with one of the tail # in this video

[@Christiaan08]

I can’t wait to start flying on the DA42!!

[@veritas6466]

Learned to fly in a DA-20. Love the Katana’s low wing and stick. Over time got checked out in a 150 and a 172.The Cessna with it’s big trim wheel and yoke floats along reminding me of a pontoon boat. Both fun to fly. I didn’t realize how much safer the Diamond appears to be. Not too crazy about the possibility of being trapped in the DA if it became inverted in a landing mishap. Didn’t seem like this was as much a comparison as a Diamond Aircraft sales piece.

[@jayanth777]

Did you finish all your training at kanata aviation high river, alberta?

[@veritas6466]

@@jayanth777 Baltimore, Md

[@scott135]

The best comparison video ever! Many thaks for helping us decide.

[@davidholubetz177]

John Armstrong you are a king ... that was an amazingly well-done video. Thank you so much. For those who are complaining that this is not a fair and balanced comparison ... you are right. He is the owner / founder of one of the largest Diamond distributors in North America, so what do you expect. If you don't have time to watch the whole thing to answer the question, "which airplane is better" I'll cut to the credits and tell you - it's the Diamond.

[@triggerpointtechnology]

Having over 12,000 hours, including 2,000 hours of dual given, I was anticipating a hit job on the DA40. I’m pleasantly surprised that your treatment of the DA40 is spot on. The real selling point is that the DA40 is one of the best flying aircraft I have ever flown. The stick is such an honest straightforward input you literally become unaware of your movements. I sold dozens of DA40s for a dealer and it was always a satisfying day when I could put 3 adults in the plane and demo all the necessary maneuvers for a private license including accelerated stalls effortlessly and safely. Best single engine aircraft in its class by an order of magnitude.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

This is awesome feedback! Thanks for your comment :)

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Master. Has. 28000 hours on te concired. Or more mist super sonic concored hours

[@glenpaul3606]

As a private pilot I learned on a Cessna 150 and 172 back in the 1970's. Most of my time was in a 172 and some 182, but i also flew some low wing aircraft like the Grumman Tiger, Piper Cherokee and the Mooney 201. Your Diamond is a marvel of current technology and would be amazing to fly. Good review of features and functions comparing aircraft. Diamond really put a lot of thought into building this aircraft.

[@grayrabbit2211]

I fly both... DA40 when the weather is nice (ie: below 82F), C172 for everything else. The DA40 definitely is a dream to fly, whereas it feels like I'm wrestling the C172. BUT, I'm in Florida. The heat, humidity, and rain are brutal here. Being able to taxi/fly with the windows open and having a solid roof rather than plexiglass/perspex bubble over your head, especially when it's August, 95F with 50% humidity and you're putting along at 1500' underneath a Bravo shelf, is priceless. Likewise, entering and exiting a high-wing in rain is far more pleasant than popping open the canopy in a DA40 in rain. High wing ain't sexy, but it's extremely practical. If I ever had the money, I think I'd go for a DA50RG w/aircon. That would fix 90% of my gripes with the DA40. At the same time, the leading edges of the DA40's wings get chewed up pretty bad when flying in rain. We just had to have ours repaired. Likewise, anyone can field-repair panels on a C172. Not so much for the plastic planes.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Agree. I fly in Southern CA where it is hot. I will stick with the 172. That plane may not be sexy but it's a tank and it's more comfortable.

[@eclectichoosier5474]

I work on the Cessnas daily, but no experience with the DAs. Do they not offer erosion strips for leading edges? Our school's Barons have erosion material on the radome. It's taken quite a beating over the years, but the dome is still in good shape.

[@mymyrrah]

@@eclectichoosier5474I’m a student learning the DA40 in Tennessee. Our planes don’t suffer any leading edge damage, even the “old” 20 year ones. Only thing I ever see is some speed tape around some areas, but that’s the buffer on the wing for fuel tank maintenance.

[@RioRM1]

You definitely got some good points

[@MichaelFoster-vu1og]

The “g” factor of the Cessna 172 cabin is not mentioned but is in fact greater than that of the DA40. Much mention of the DA40 doors is made - how do you get out if the aircraft goes over on its back? Normal access and egress needs a climb onto the wing. The interior is invariably damp during winter due to the egress during rain pouring straight onto the seats. So when it’s raining there’s a mad rush to get in before you’re sitting in a puddle and then you have to be a contortionist to plug in your headset. If anything is placed on the dashboard it is vulnerable to slipping right off onto the ground and smashing. I’ve seen a few I Pads destroyed in this way. All in all the ergonomics of the DA40 are far inferior to the Cessna 172. Then there’s the aileron drag from those control surfaces leveraging so far out on those long wings requiring the co-ordination of a glider pilot rather than that of the airline pilot that most trainees are working towards becoming. Again not mentioned - the Cessna 172 can also be equipped with a diesel.

[@EchoKilo]

I trained in 172’s and now my club just acquired a DA40. I’m looking forward to flying in it.

[@R.h.Cramer]

Im glad that i started my flight training in the diamond, so ill always have a soft spot for diamond aircraft. At the end of the day the DA40 glides better, its safer and its less cluttered making it a little easier for people new to flying to stay with the aircraft. Only downside of the diamond i can think of is the fact that if lightening hits you that airframe will shatter into a billion peices. Great video!

[@NobleWizard]

One of the carbon layers used in manufacturing of the Diamond aircraft has small strands aluminium in the weave. This is to allow electricity to travel to the static wicks. I would be very surprised to see part of the airframe break off due to a lightning strike.

[@Diosesdepapel]

I flew C 152 and C 172 , before very interesting video with so much information , after watching this video I would love to try that DA 40 for sure , Tks for sharing

[@AB-jm3iu]

I never saw anybody promotes Diamond as good as you!!!

[@eduardomontes1563]

What a cool video! 👍 nice detailed explanation on every detail.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

We're glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!

[@FollowTheJohn]

I have a lot of hours logged in the 172 but I really would love to get checked out in the Diamond. GREAT comparison video.

[@Elwin3918]

I trained in the Skyhawks and didn’t know much about the DA40 NG .thanks for giving me this virtual,to say ,upgrade .👌🏾

[@leojorgen9773]

Hey great video, I am a pilot trainee on DA 40 NG. You have said most of it but some points I would like to add are the advantage that my Cessna friends have than us is that during cruise they get more shade and less sun exposure and better landing performance due it's high wing design, other than that Diamond beats on most things.

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Yes, the 172 gets shade and is really comfortable. Love it for that. I am flying a Piper which fly nice but not as comfortable and its hot.

[@650tonyd]

You can install a parachute on the Cessna and not the diamond. For this reason alone the Cessna is better

[@peteallennh]

This is really neat comparison between the Cessna and the Diamond. I think the Diamond is my next plane to get used to. These guys also have a comparison video between the Diamond and the Cirrus SR-22. I’ll be watching that, too. All I can say about the Diamond is Wow!

[@kristoffaninkama3883]

As a student pilot, I started my initial flight training with a C160, which I also did my first solo on. Then, I flew the C172 for my cross country. Agree that the C172 is a great aircraft and very reliable to fly. I marvel the Diamond D840, but beyond my budget. Great educational video.

[@KingOfKings34]

Holy shit you started with C-160 Transall?

[@Arturo-lapaz]

you mean C-150

[@wiwa56]

I guess you mean c-150 or C-172: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_160

[@mwbgaming28]

I trained on both, both have their advantages and disadvantages, if I was going to own one personally, as much as I love flying the DA-40, I'd still go with the C172 because of the availability of cheap spare parts, and the ease of repairs, mechanical parts are much easier and cheaper to fix than computers If you have to do a forced landing in the middle of nowhere because an engine control computer failed, you're stuck there until you walk close enough to town to get phone signal If something mechanical breaks, for example the magneto (assume both of them broke) You could take them both apart and cannibalize one so you can repair the other to at least get yourself back in the air Non computerized parts are far easier to jury rig back into working order, which could mean the difference between flying back to civilization with a cool story to tell, vs having it etched onto your tombstone

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

The C-172 is built like a tank and comfortable to fly. The high wing helps with the sun. Both planes have pros and cons. The C-172 is just such a tank that it lasts and lasts and can take so much abuse and is easy to fix.

[@TheLoganatorz]

I did my Private on a DA40 and Instrument on a 172. Both are great but the Diamonds pushrods and stick feel so much better in the air. Also worth mentioning that the larger window and overhead wings on the Cessna help you keep cooler on a hot day.

[@billiondollardan]

I'm taking lessons now in a 172 and I love it, but I've got to say that I am seriously considering a Diamond after I'm licensed

[@eddyweber3264]

Wow! If Diamond didnt sponsored that vid I totally love all the honest informations. So much useful data. Thanx for taking ur time to do this vid.

[@fabtan2447]

Fantastic video! Thank you !

[@cyrildu972]

The DA40 is a superior plane that’s for sure, but the Cessna 172 has some advantages for itself. It is easier and cheaper to repare plus you easily find spare part all around the wold. It is also way cheaper to buy in second hand. it is a more robust aircraft and can be used to land almost everywhere on any field It has a shorter wingspan, making it less efficient but giving it less ground clearance, I’ve seen video of 172 landing on narrow strip inside forest It is also an iconic aircraft, really I love to see them in great shape like the one in this video. The Cessna is still a great modern aircraft but the Diamonds is futureproof

[@pisymbol]

You got it! Diamond has not really figured out the used plane market. Cessna is a way better choice if buying used and this is coming from a HUGE Diamond fan/pilot.

[@samuelkundael3503]

You wrote a whole list, all that sold me to the DA40 was the cool opening doors. I'm just a simple creature 😅

[@omirlino]

The parts things is why the flight school I was working at decided to not go with the Diamond. When something broke on the Diamond it could take weeks or longer to get replacement parts and at least one plane would be down till the parts came in. As it was explained to me, they had to send the broken art to Diamond and wait for the new one, and they weren’t allowed to stock parts for when they did break

[@Android811]

@@omirlino Not true. I work for a flying school that has a fleet of about 60 DA-40's. We have enough parts in our store room to build 5 or so aircraft from scratch! Parts aren't cheap though!

[@andrewhughes8687]

@@samuelkundael3503 Those doors are the one true negative of the DA40. In many parts of the world it's often raining when you get in/out of the plane. In the DA40, the entire inside is soaked if its raining.

[@franciscook5819]

Well thought out and detailed presentation. If only I could afford one. I would have mentioned the slight difference in high wing / low wing float on landing.

[@cyh4031]

I have only been able to afford one formal flight lesson, but have been blessed to be at the controls of a few of my friends airplanes. The Katana was by far my favorite, and when I get to the place to be able to afford to take more lessons, the Katana would be my aircraft of choice!

[@damirzanne]

Both fantastic planes, I wouldn’t mind owning either one… great video

[@MarceloCabane]

Excellent material. I love flying Cardinals but this video left me plenty of curiosity.

[@Darren4352]

I came into this video ready to nay say and poo poo the DA40 but my sense of integrity forces me to fess up. This was probably one of the best comparison videos I've ever seen and I'm left wanting one of these DA40 aircraft in a bad way! I love the 172s that I trained in but if given an opportunity I think I'd grab a DA40 in a heartbeat! I loved the fact that it has a Jet A burning power plant. Cessna had some aborted attempts at creating one of these but never could get the engine right but diamond seems to have knocked it out of the park! The amount of storage space behind the two front seats is pretty impressive as well along with the fact that with the open upward type of doors you've got a huge hole to put cargo in through. The only place the 172 appears to excel is in providing a sun shade over the folks in the cockpit on a hot day with its high wing. At the end of the day I guess it's going to depend on what your mission is. If you're doing pipeline surveys and photo runs then a high wing is probably going to make more sense. For practically everything else though the DA-40 will carry the day.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Thanks so much for your insight! If you ever want to talk more about the DA40, send us a message on our website and let us know where you came from :)

[@vFLYHI_RY]

This is a fantastic video! Well edited and very informative -- just tell the editor to put a more vibrant color pass on it, please. As a production company owner, this drives me nuts :)

[@Archrydude]

Excellent video. Very informative. Thank you. As a person who is shopping for their first airplane, this video was really helpful.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Awesome, that's our goal! Let us know if we can help you in the aircraft acquisition process.

[@Thealmostfitpilot]

This was a great comparison of old Rolex to new modern apple/Samsung watch of today’s technology. Great video.

[@nicknicholson1268]

Please don't compare apples with Rolexes :)

[@Thealmostfitpilot]

@@nicknicholson1268 you’re right. Apple has an unfair advantage to an over priced time teller. 😘😘

[@nicknicholson1268]

@@Thealmostfitpilot Drop an apple; it's ok, blame it on Newton. But drop a Rolex and you're gonna blame yourself for the time of your life, if this makes any sense. 😍😍

[@Thealmostfitpilot]

@@nicknicholson1268 *yawn*. Apple > Rolex. Time to get with todays ability and stop over paying for a time teller.

[@Kitty-p7d]

For civil airplane, the good or the bad of its maintainability will directly affects its whole life costs and affects its competition in the market

[@william_ochieng]

Hey lifestyle aviation, I learnt about diamond aircraft from you through this channel. Just wanted to say thanks for changing my life.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

This made our day! Thanks for being here, blue skies and tailwinds! 🎉

[@william_ochieng]

@@LifeStyleAviation Thank you, and to you as well!! 💯

[@KevinAround]

I’ve flown the 172, DA40, DA42, and the DA62… the big drawback on the DA40 and DA42 is that, if it rains, you can’t get in or out, because opening the canopy exposes everything (avionics and co). The DA62 isn’t as bad, because the doors provide some more protection.

[@nunyabidness3075]

Never had a problem with that. Parked my DA 40 on the ramp, got in and out in the rain. Im talking actual rain. If it doesn’t hurt your head, it’s not rain, it’s humidity. 😂🤣

[@bruce7062]

Usually we don’t fly when there’s heavy raining cuz it might block your sight

[@gbglobetrotter]

Get pulled into a hanger I guess! Call ahead and hope!

[@jasonpb27]

Never had this problem.

[@alanmydland5210]

Not a big deal to me

[@BabyBlue.23]

Great comparison! This my PPL trainer vs my IFR and Commercial

[@BillHoller]

Having flown many hours in C 172 and C 182 I now fly Diamond and the Italian Techam2008 aricraft. Their flight behavior and fuel consumption show that they really are planes of a new aera. If the Europeans would not have developed these modern energy efficient planes, private flying might have almost disappeared by now because of fuel prices, at least in Europe.

[@donjohnston3776]

Tecnam is a great design. I would like to see a Diamond with high wings. The new Sling with high wings is a winner. Sling informs me a TDI is too heavy for their airframe.

[@JohnPruitt-su8fe]

How do your avfuel costs compare w/100ll?

[@JohnPruitt-su8fe]

How do your av fuel costs compare w/100 LL

[@blvp.8839]

The tecnam p2006t is beautiful

[@j3nn3s]

@@JohnPruitt-su8fe At least here in Germany we pay around 2,8€/litre for AVGAS100LL and around 2€/litre for JET A1. And the jet fuel engins consumes even less per hour. My flying club has even a 172 diesel conversion, which is basically the same engine the DA40 has (google "Thielert engine"), only with a little bit less power. But therefore it is also rated for regular Diesel fuel. That being said, I'm a huge fan of Diesel powered air planes and I would love to fly the DA40. The only disadvantages I can see in the DA40 is how you wet everything when you hop in while it's raining and how it heats up in summer. But that's an issue with mostly all low wing designs.

[@jijoe66]

Man, the initial part is so fantastic... The father flew a B-17 and the uncle flew a P-51... wow... And congrats for the video, specially about differences between aircrafts and not just personal preference.

[@johnlee5721]

Great review!!!

[@andrewvaldez6658]

I have flown both but appreciate the Cessna more. C172 = roomier, two doors easy in and out, two windows that open, and SHADE.

[@daszieher]

I agree. As a glider pilot I used to sneer at the Cessna spam cans and Diamonds were the natural preference. Until I got to fly (right seat) in a T210. Boy, what a platform. Like a house flying through the air.

[@TheRenegadeAV8R]

Absolutely fantastic video. I first saw a DA-42 in Pooler, GA ant the Savannah Int airport and fell in love with the diamond aircraft. I would love to fly one, it's my favorite GA aircraft.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

We love it too! Thanks for sharing!

[@ramezqubain8177]

what a great video. well done with the explanation

[@LewisKitto]

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

[@salcrocker894]

Great video, never really knew much about the DA40!

[@mikaellachiriboga2223]

I really enjoy this vid..! excelent comparison :)

[@SteenPedersen]

I fly them both and prefer the DA40, but when it comes to short grass strips, I take the Cessna. Also when I go photoshooting, I take the Cessna, and open the window 🙂

[@Arturo-lapaz]

Have you tried the Beech sundowner with its forgiving trailing link landing gear and similated gear retracting lever, best for commercial certificate training.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Mastrr chef hse bith as well lone trip Concorde Mach 1.0 to Mach 2.0

[@shredman59]

While you argue over them, i will take either.. THank you very much.

[@jeffl.oliverson6690]

Okay, okay its pretty obvious you sell, own or are pushing the Diamond. I get it sir. but, I own a 172N and love it for all it is, not what it isn't. Yes there are many new more expensive aircraft that are modern, go faster and offer new technology that make them great GA aircraft. If I could afford and or was looking for a new airplane, I would for sure look into a Diamond. Glade to see the new tech and how it is making GA flying even better!

[@jasonmays5559]

Awesome video! Very helpful.

[@maritestaylor8458]

Amazing content

[@gregoryhill7960]

Thanks for your informative video

[@indyjones1970]

What an enjoyable presentation. Thankyou for this - keep 'em coming!

[@STERNWAERTS]

wow, great comparison! i didn't know anything about diamonds and modern GA aircaft so this was really quite enlightening! what an amazing piece of engineering this is.

[@topofthegreen]

After flying a Diamond DA40, I’ve become a huge fan of the aircraft.

[@stealhty1]

Cessna and Piper keep their original design from the 50's to these days ,however Dimond came throught with modern efficient materials , and a very comfortable seats on recline configuration

[@j3nn3s]

And you can buy a new PA-28 with an engine based on the same design as the Diamonds (the DX and DLX variants).

[@Paiadakine]

Cost to certify a plane is so high in the USA that the old airframes keep going.

[@josh885]

@@Paiadakine True. It's ironic because the certification process was designed to improve and assure safety, has lead to a situation that degraded safety due to the high cost ensuring manufactures keep using old designs devoid of over 50 years of gained knowledge and technology about crash worthiness and engine management. It would be like if car design from the 50s with no airbags, no restraints, no crumple zones, no thought to occupant protection at all were still being used today.

[@mancave-simpilot]

Great video, really enjoyed it. Shame I learnt on a 152/172 and not one of those Diamonds. I would love to hop into one and go poke holes in the clouds with it.

[@TheNightstalker67]

If I was buying a plane I would buy from this guy! Well done and interesting.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Thanks for watching, that's the goal!

[@gregoryschmitz2131]

My bit questions are. 1. Ingress takes a bit of non standard gyration in the DA40NG. Pax has to get up on the wing, swing around and work their way in, kind of like a sports care. The C172 is pretty standard slide in and access the back the way you do on a two door car. I believe it depends on how you bend and twist. Getting our require arm lift and strength and leg lift from an awkward position on the DA40NG. I can see some liking one or the other but not both. 2. The C172 has a natural sun shade and how is the DA40NG? I never had a problem with visibility in flying C150/2 and 172. Before you turned you had a good look and you equally have a good look coming wings level again. The visibility in the DA40NG is fabulous no question. I don't know that I would call the C172 as a disadvantage as much as the DA40NG a whole new approach (assuming the glass does not cook your head).

[@darethjavelin3802]

Back in 2017 I did my EASA CPL on the DA40 and DA42. Wonderful aircraft both of them. If you compare them with a Cessna or Piper, the Diamond feels like a Rolls Royce.

[@FLYBOY123456789]

excellent review...hit all the major differences...given the choice, most pilots prefer the diamond...great aircraft.

[@bubbafatas2588]

As an instructor my concern with the Diamond with students would be not being able to teach stall / spin recovery. I had a C150 Aerobat and I beat stall spin recovery into the brains of my students. There is no better way to teach angle of attack than doing loops and split S recoveries! If all you are ever going to fly is the Diamond then go first it!

[@davidwhitman9609]

Thanks for the video. I don’t know anything about modern GA aircraft. Cool stuff.

[@syafiqlaw5634]

I enjoyed flying DA40NG! 😍 Superb aircraft to fly on

[@connorsdad1126]

I loved this video!

[@nightwaves3203]

A big point to me is the overhead wing gives shade not needing contraptions to block sun and less heat from the sun.

[@MrSchattka]

Very thorough description of both aircraft, excellent job. However, it should be pointed out that the rudder was grabbed at the do-not-handle icon graphic (@ 12:07).

[@andrewmgoss]

That was a fantastic video.

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jeremynjenn]

Great video - I also have both planes, or course I have the and older Diamond DA40 before they made some of the improvements. Still a great plane and very flexible. Had a bird strike in both planes and the experience in the Cessna felt like a non event compared to the canopy of the Diamond cracking and a bird ending up inside . Of course $14k later all was good .

[@colinfitzgerald4332]

$14,000 is what I paid for my Cessna 150K ten years ago. Still a good plane today with no major maintenance costs except $2,000 to add ADSB out. Hard to believe a new C-172 costs over $500k. DA40 has incredible performance - you are lucky to have one.

[@browner7097]

Great presentation, John!

[@aroopghosh1381]

Sir what is the cost of the overhauling the Austro engine at TBO of the DA 40 NG ? Please advise

[@Jerry10939]

The U.S. Air Force stopped using the DA-40 and switched to the Cirrus SR-20. Apparently it wasn’t as good as they thought it was. Something about climb performance and structural maintenance. Of course Diamond wasn’t happy about it. However the Cessna 172 T41 is still being used by their flying team along with their T51 Cessna 150s . I might fly the DA-40 in the future, who knows I might like it. But I know the Cessna 172 and the 150/152s really well and am comfortable flying them. The DA-40 hasn’t been around long enough to know how they will fare after years of flying and abuse from student pilots. As old as the 172 is we know that a new 172 will be flying 70 to 80 years from now. Because 170s and the first 172s are still flying today. That tell me I know it’s a great plane to have. It’s reliable. And rugged. If I’m traveling I’m thinking luggage not bicycles, so that luggage compartment in the 172 is just fine. I’m sure I could probably get a bicycle in the back of a 172 if I don’t carry any passengers back there, which is what you did with the DA-40. Safety wise the DA-40 has a good record so far. But with only around a little over 2,200 built as of Dec 2020. I’m sure there may be quite a bit more now but compared to Cessna’s 172 most produced airplanes around at over 44,000 and still in production. Makes it probably the greatest aircraft in history by sheer numbers.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Master chief fly. F16. Mach 2

[@RayMrRobert]

Very good comparison

[@survivalhealthandhealingtv5651]

Loved it! Great Video!

[@adamaktas]

Great video! Thanks

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Glad you enjoyed, thanks for being here!

[@MaggieBarney-i8e]

We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them.

[@BunnaphatTangpaiboon]

great, Thank you very much for very very clear information to decide which one i should have now a day 🙂

[@LifeStyleAviation]

Glad it was helpful!

[@johnwighton]

Great video, very little to criticise apart from some engineering data. Kevlar (aramid), isn’t carbon fibre. Composites includes carbon fibre, glass fibre and aramid - plus a few more materials you cannot see. Both are great planes but the DA40 gets my vote.

[@slehar]

Great comparison! Thanks!

[@Chris-md1cf]

Didn't know avgas was leaded. Thanks for the heads up.

[@flauwekulletjes]

Nice video. You're fan of the Diamond. That's for sure. Haha.. Cessna. Indeed, the high cockpit. Front view and climb view is not fine on the Cessna's.

[@bpatos]

Really nice video. Thanks 🙏

[@NathanBallardSaferFlying]

Excellent video, appreciate all the detail 🙌

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent stuff bro

[@jamesdailey2476]

I was flying a da40 last week and going to flight school cook out today to learn more about the da40. I can’t compare between the 2 but if I had to pick I know which one 🛩️🤷‍♂️

[@imbiniam8866]

Great content!

[@omerselman3664]

2 questions; 1)what happens when it rains or snows? The whole seats and instruments are exposed to weather right? is there a drain hole in the cockpit? 2) how do you get out if plane is upside down? Thanks.