Lightroom vs Lightroom Classic vs Photoshop: Did you choose right?

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Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Tony & Chelsea Northrup

Күн бұрын

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@modelcitizen1977
@modelcitizen1977 2 жыл бұрын
The cloud part of creative cloud doesn’t do anything for me. Bring back perpetual licenses.
@asmrdadbod2483
@asmrdadbod2483 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@ruperterskin2117
@ruperterskin2117 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@blackie75
@blackie75 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants this, the creative cloud part was just a giant excuse to optimize profits for adobe and keep you on the financial teat.
@raulgalets
@raulgalets 2 жыл бұрын
affinitt photo have a perpetual license. It is not the same but it is a nice to have. I would even recommend getting a CS6 perpetual license if you can. software as a service sucks
@rexxxxxxxxx
@rexxxxxxxxx Жыл бұрын
@@raulgalets it won’t get new camera/lens support, right?
@shanewilliams613
@shanewilliams613 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I chose Affinity Photo when Adobe went to the subscription model and my current versions stopped recognizing new camera RAW files. Have never looked back.
@markexploringnewstuff
@markexploringnewstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Best and clearest explanation of of LRC, LR and PS. Thank you Tony!
@sylvaindupuis5595
@sylvaindupuis5595 2 жыл бұрын
I used Lightroom until version 5.7, when it became a monthly fee. I'm just a casual photographer so I didn't tough that I needed to pay each month. I now use DXO I still use Lightroom for it's library functionality (DxO is getting better at that, I may not need Lightroom at all in not too long), but for the treatment of my photos, DxO is really good enough for me.
@mbr5742
@mbr5742 2 жыл бұрын
LR6 was still "pay once"
@nigelcliff7390
@nigelcliff7390 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same with me DXO is a great processor and the Lightroom plugin works seamlessly
@RealHouseMouse2
@RealHouseMouse2 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still using LR 5
@marasaTQ
@marasaTQ 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealHouseMouse2 me too, about to upgrade my operating system which will not then run LR5 and I'll have to "marry" the subscription model (ech!)
@dragonfly656
@dragonfly656 2 жыл бұрын
@@marasaTQ Yep, system upgrades are a big problem. I still use a dark age system in order to run stand alone Photoshop plus an older version of DXO. I can’t let go of Photoshop.
@ccooper5420
@ccooper5420 9 ай бұрын
The break in video with the dog really sold me on this.
@Panagiotis-Skordilis
@Panagiotis-Skordilis 2 жыл бұрын
I choose affinity and capture one, thank you :)
@smaakjeks
@smaakjeks 2 жыл бұрын
My process: *1)* File dump onto hard drive -> Open Bridge -> Wait a few moments for preview render -> Full Screen and browse pics -> Open file I like in Adobe Raw, click Done instead of Cancel to create an XMP file -> Repeat until finished -> Scroll down the files on my OS file browser and select RAW images that have an XMP file associated with them -> Open in Adobe Raw -> Edit -> Open in Photoshop -> Final edits -> Save as JPG high def (for print), and JPG small (for web). *2)* Name folder by YYYY_MM_DD_[trip/location/name]. XMP files remain, instead of me having to remember which pics I liked. *3)* Back up to 2 or 3 hard drives. Best ones on the cloud.
@ronjenkins4257
@ronjenkins4257 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also using the sidecar files because I don't want to be locked into Lightroom's catalog system.
@smaakjeks
@smaakjeks 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronjenkins4257 Yeah. With the sidecar files, then at most Birdge will need to re-load files in that particular folder if I want to revisit pics for printing. And if I'm working on a different computer, I don't have to do anything but plug in and load Bridge again.
@DeborahZajac
@DeborahZajac 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the same. I only use Photoshop, Adobe's picture downloader via Bridge then ACR when ready to develop my images . Regarding hard drives-I have a back up drive on my computer that backs up every day, and I also use Backblaze for offsite back up. I have developed a pretty good filing and folder system for my images over the years so retrieving them from years ago is fairly simple. I tried Lightroom and I just can't handle the catalog system they use. It drove me nuts with missing pictures and moving catalogs etc. I'm a Photoshop, ACR, Bridge gal.
@erik1836
@erik1836 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony for delineating for me when I survived on my own as well in regards to the relative purposes of the various programs.
@Ardspans
@Ardspans Жыл бұрын
This video is all I needed to decide what was best for me. Thank you for the information, it really helped me.
@martt1746
@martt1746 2 жыл бұрын
I would be nice if you guys would compare Lightroom to the competition like: Capture One, DxO, luminar etc..
@marasaTQ
@marasaTQ 2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@TailoredTechnique
@TailoredTechnique 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Isn’t those one time payments ?
@apocaloptigon9988
@apocaloptigon9988 2 жыл бұрын
rawtherapee, my beloved
@bioliv1
@bioliv1 2 жыл бұрын
Lr in the cloud and Capture One on your desk is the ultimate combination and the best from two worlds!
@Jimsranch
@Jimsranch 2 жыл бұрын
From a long time newby to photography thank you!! Whenever I was wanting to sign up for a class I was always asking myself which program to use - this naming legacy from Adobe has been impossible. Thank you very much Tony for putting this video together!!!
@jameschilton3556
@jameschilton3556 2 жыл бұрын
I moved away from Adobe to Affinity Photo due to their subscription model. To be honest, I could now easily afford Adobe but Affinity does everything I need and does some things better than Adobe for a very reasonable one off cost. I think I paid about £30 (~$41) four years ago and have had updates with improvements since then for free. The UI is so similar to Adobe there is very little relearning to do so it's easy to switch too.
@apocaloptigon9988
@apocaloptigon9988 2 жыл бұрын
affinity photo is very good, i approve
@nogerboher5266
@nogerboher5266 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what Adobes software has and no other image editing software has, is fluid, intuitive and easy to work with user interface. Working in PS and LRC is the easiest, most fluid and most intuitive user experience ever. Programs like Capture One, Affinity, Skylum Luminar or any others, are just terrible to work in/with. The UI is much more important than the subscription fee amount - at least to me it is. I am willing to pay $1000 more if I have to, just to have a fluid, easy to work with and intuitive UI to edit my shoots in.
@jameschilton3556
@jameschilton3556 2 жыл бұрын
@@nogerboher5266 Affinity Photo is far easier to use! I used Photoshop for years, then Lightroom and Photoshop. The Affinity UI is so similar it took no effort to change and there are certain features of Affinity which are better than Adobe. Cost is irrelevant to me as well so it's a double win - better software and no rent.
@straightshooter6309
@straightshooter6309 2 жыл бұрын
Largely because of this great video breakdown of the three products I've purchased one of your video bundles. Nicely done!
@mult1t4sk
@mult1t4sk 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about perfect timing. I was just looking through your lightroom playlist looking for an updated video discussing thoughts and comparisons on lightroom vs classic. Over the last couple of days I've been going through and watching a lot of your content. It's amazing and really helpful and I hope you and Chelsea bring back Picture This! and T&C Live (T&C Live was hilarious, loved them)
@Chasing-Wisdom
@Chasing-Wisdom 2 жыл бұрын
Same here exactly
@trishfoster3732
@trishfoster3732 2 жыл бұрын
I was just trying to figure it out as well.
@junkbop
@junkbop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown. I always appreciate your POV, Tony. In this instance, I think there are some very popular use cases that you're under-weighting. For example... I take photos for pleasure, mostly with my Canon R5 but also with my iPhone 13 Pro Max. I use all of LR, LRC, and PS... but the single most RELAXING & ENJOYABLE photo editing experience I've had is using LR on my iPad with an Apple Pencil. I can easily transfer my big-camera photos directly to LR on the iPad using an SD card dongle, and the app seamlessly syncs with photos taken on my iPhone. LR even integrates with the iPad version of PS (which is much simpler than the PC version, but can get many basic PS jobs done... certainly good enough for many social media use cases). I can do all of this from my couch... which feels a lot less like work and a lot more like art... to me.
@nerdnam
@nerdnam 2 жыл бұрын
I use it in bed, under the covers.
@Grim_Druid
@Grim_Druid 2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdnam giggity
@timothygoetz9742
@timothygoetz9742 Жыл бұрын
I've been away from LR for 5 or so years. I kept my Creative cloud subscription, so this video helped me get reacquainted with the platform. Thank you.
@PeterBrockie
@PeterBrockie 2 жыл бұрын
Lightroom Classic also supports proper plug-ins like Negative Lab Pro.
@onsafari
@onsafari 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you tony. You saved me a tremendous amount of time and anguish. I have just made the exact mistake that you mentioned and subscribed to Lightroom rather than Lightroom Classic. I will be changing my plan right away.
@johneisele6264
@johneisele6264 Жыл бұрын
Man this should be the #1 video when I search for lightroom in KZbin. So many creaters refer to lightroom classic as lightroom. (Because that's its name) as a newbie, I had no way of knowing that, went and got lightroom, started trying to use it, and was wondering why it looked different, and lacked so many features. Then I found your video, buried in results for a search, explaining exactly what was going on here. Tl;dr: thank you.
@wanderinwhilewecan
@wanderinwhilewecan 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great summary of all these products. I seriously needed this! THANK YOU!!
@jackblah5842
@jackblah5842 Жыл бұрын
I've been with Lightroom (classic) since the beginning and remember how sexy Apple Aperture was so I ran both. Aperture was fun to play around in but when it came time to organize and cull a large number of photos for a project I always found myself going back to LR.
@d_dave7200
@d_dave7200 2 жыл бұрын
I have no intention of paying for cloud storage for my photos. Sorry. I have a high quality NAS system in my home, an extra backup in a fireproof, flood proof lockbox, and a third copy at a family member's home (also in a fireproof, flood proof lock box). Yes, if something extremely unlikely happens, I might lose the more recent photos that are just on my hard drive and NAS, but honestly that's not enough to make me pay a company for the rest of my life. If a shoot is really super important to me, like a major life event, I'll make sure it's fully backed up in all three places immediately. No system is foolproof, but this is more than good enough for me. (I'm also still using an old version of Lightroom so I don't have to pay a subscription. Though with all the new features, I'll probably cave on that at some point since it would certainly save me time.)
@befreetv354
@befreetv354 2 жыл бұрын
Tony&Chelsea are Pros ! Thats why I am watching them always...and this is a very good example! Cheers !
@stevenbridge
@stevenbridge 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is you can do anything in Photoshop and Camera Raw that you can do in Lightroom plus a whole lot more. It may be a steeper learning curve but you can start out using it as though it was Lightroom and go from there. I started with Photoshop 3.0 with no training, (there was no KZbin then) but still managed to edit my shots and learned as I went. To tell you the truth I am still learning new techniques every time I use it thanks to the additional functionality that Adobe puts into Photoshop every iteration.
@tonyzambos3138
@tonyzambos3138 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for eliminating some of the confusion I had between the different Lightrooms and Photoshop. I'm an old hobbyist with a large number of digital photos plus slides, photos and negatives converted to digital. Since my post processing needs and wants are minimal, I've used Photoshop Elements for many years. It has its own organizational program. I know I should use it but haven't so far. For storage I am using a 4-TB raid array set to mirror all the data. As everyone should know, there are only two types of disk drives, the ones that have failed and the ones that will. Every couple of months, all my files are copied to an additional USB drive that gets stored in a safe deposit box at my local bank.
@lour7753
@lour7753 2 жыл бұрын
I use all 3. I pay for the 1TB photography plan. I upload all my new photos to Lr. Once uploaded, I can edit in both Lr and LrC. I create albums to share using Lr (you didn’t mention this in your video). LrC is my main cataloging app. As my cloud storage gets full, I delete older pics from Lr, but they are retained by LrC (stored on HD). I use Backblaze to backup my LrC HD. The sharing feature of Lr is very useful, I don’t have to export edited pics, then upload to Dropbox, or Flickr, etc…. I can create as many online albums as I choose. An FYI, if you upload pics to your cloud via Lr, your shared albums have full resolution pics available for download. If you upload pics only from LrC via online collections, your albums have 2048 px images max available for download.
@sephiroth127
@sephiroth127 2 жыл бұрын
My problem with Backblaze is that it doesn't let you backup network drives. Since I keep all my pictures on my NAS and edit them on my Mac, Backblaze is basically useless.
@boogiebonefan
@boogiebonefan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I've been hopelessly confused to the point of frustration about the features and uses of these three Adobe photo apps. Now I have the knowledge to make better decisions as far as my photography is concerned.
@nike448105
@nike448105 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, You should mention that if you create collections in Lightroom classic it stores pictures globally for free but at a lower file size
@konstawillberg9039
@konstawillberg9039 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear your take on Capture One from a photoediting perspective. Pricing etc is what it is.
@konstawillberg9039
@konstawillberg9039 2 жыл бұрын
@@davexmit that’s true. Still, would be nice to hear.
@iancurrie8844
@iancurrie8844 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried both and prefer the new Lightroom. When I renewed my subscription, I tried classic again but again found it didn’t suit my needs. I’m happy with the new Lightroom. That said, adobe’s bugs in its software is astonishing. They have absolutely the worst quality control in the world.
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and found the same thing. Used to be a classic user, but am happy with Lightroom now. I don’t have a 20tb catalogue, and am happy enough storing mine in the cloud through Adobe but agree their cloud pricing is over the top. I’m on a 3tb plan.
@charlesludwig9173
@charlesludwig9173 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a real estate photographer. I edit with LrC. I was apprehensive about the latest version with new masking features but it has worked out to produce better edits, although taking greater time now an average of 6 minutes per image vs 4 on previous LrC version.
@rickfarber4243
@rickfarber4243 2 жыл бұрын
I can make it much easier. Just switch to Capture One. It has far better masking, exporting, tethered shooting, pano stitching, and may other advantages. It is a bit more expensive, however.
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 2 жыл бұрын
I don't love it. No good mobile app, for one.
@pebmets
@pebmets 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer Capture One to Lightroom. If I want to do even more modifications, I can send it to Photoshop from within Capture One
@bjorn7100
@bjorn7100 2 жыл бұрын
I also think Capture One is at least as good, at least for my needs, than Lightroom Classic which I have used before. The main reason for me switching is because I could buy a licence and not have to subscribe every month/year like with Adobe. I'm just a hobbyist so don't need to upgrade every year or so. Also, Adobe are quite terrible regarding their privacy policy from what I've heard.
@rickfarber4243
@rickfarber4243 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyAndChelsea In fairness, no application is clearly the best for all users. Just as you both say, there is no best camera - it depends on your needs. I'd love to see Tony do a thorough comparison of LR vs C1 to highlight the benefits and drawbacks of each system.
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 2 жыл бұрын
I want cloud service integration, I just don’t want it to cost as much as Adobe wants to charge. I can be anywhere in the world and access my raw files in Lightroom in seconds. On any mobile device or even any computer with a browser. That’s awesome, just too expensive. Currently on a 3tb plan, but if I had the data that Tony does, it’s a lot harder
@Matt90541
@Matt90541 Жыл бұрын
I prefer Lightroom (cloud) and Adobe Bridge. Pretty simple solution with storage...only import the absolute keepers into Lightroom...never paid for storage.
@MichaelSeneschal
@MichaelSeneschal 2 жыл бұрын
I’d still be using LR perpetual if it would support the raw files on my new camera. Was using LR since version 2 and the workflow was so ingrained in me. I moved to Capture One about 1.5 years ago and am still not as fluent as I used to be with LR, but I’m 90% there. The subscription model was such a turn off for me that I considered shooting jpg only, and just using Photo Mechanic to rate and organize my photos. I’ve been doing photography for 15 years now and as time goes on I edit my photos less and less, so my eventual goal is to shoot jpg and not edit anyways. :)
@KaiTiura
@KaiTiura 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest... instead of paying "one large sum", you pay a MUCH larger sum by having to pay monthly! Free updates is where it sorta evens out, but subscription-based software is much more expensive. That said, I have to say this is one of my more favored plug videos I've seen lately. Informative, as long as you're well-versed in this stuff already or are adept at hitting the back button so you can catch it all. Lots of good info here. Backup storage is a must, even if you're like me and only shoot a small amount of photos but want to keep them. Hard drives fail! I will be checking out your tutorial video offerings. Thanks for all your content!
@joshguntercreative194
@joshguntercreative194 7 ай бұрын
I love you guys for knowledge I want to talk I went to brooks Institute of photography in Santa Barbara. I learn more from you than my entire three years of training at that school..
@quirkypurple
@quirkypurple 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still just stuck using PS and Bridge.
@denisroy81
@denisroy81 2 жыл бұрын
PS, Bridge and Adobe Camera Raw for me
@KNURKonesur
@KNURKonesur 2 жыл бұрын
Bought Photoshop CS6 many years ago and still use it today. Camera RAW has all the functions I need from Lightroom so I never thought about other software especially that it's all subscription based nowadays and I don't shoot pictures all year round anyway.
@randyvincent6791
@randyvincent6791 Жыл бұрын
Oh Tony, love your video's ! Love watching you and wife compete to, so funny!
@mikeperri7246
@mikeperri7246 6 ай бұрын
Tony - many thanks for your review of the confusing Abode Lightroom options. I recently switched from Lr to LrC and really glad I did. I was none too happy about cloud storage; never have been. So I was glad to see here, great minds think alike. I have a Synology NAS and it really was/is a great investment. Especially when considering the cumulative cost of cloud storage. Synology Photos app is a joy to use and access from the desktop or mobile. Any NAS whichever is an individual preference is the way to go. BTW Synology also offer cloud storage but its probably more cost effective to keep augmenting and evolving your NAS home storage.
@webingerphoto49
@webingerphoto49 2 жыл бұрын
Tony….thank you for your expertise on LR and LR cc…now I know which one to use along with PS.
@JuanLopezmusica
@JuanLopezmusica Жыл бұрын
it actually does have now, I just did it "match pictures"
@chumito10
@chumito10 2 жыл бұрын
The history lesson at the beginning is appreciated! Would be nice to see a similar video about GoPro's Quik app
@carlmcneill1139
@carlmcneill1139 2 жыл бұрын
I have the photography plan so I have both versions of Lightroom, Photoshop plus a few others. I rarely use LR. I mostly use LRC and Photoshop. I did have the app on my phone that I use when I'm on vacation when I want to post to social media. But I bracket a lot of my shots and blend the exposures so I have to use Photoshop for that. By the way, Coca Cola classic is still not the original version. They switched from sugar too high fructose corn syrup. You can actually taste the difference if you really know coke. I think they came out with new coke to drastically change the taste so that when they rolled out the "classic" coke you wouldn't know they changed something. But I noticed. Google when coke came out with new coke and when they switched sweeteners.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 2 жыл бұрын
If you are a casual photographer and want just the editing features of Photoshop there is the Photoshop Elements. It is slightly limited version for casual users. The best is that it is a single purchase under $100 and it is for you to use as long as you want - though if you shoot raw you may need to upgrade if you get a new camera (unless you convert to DNG).
@smithcon
@smithcon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Another video I'd love to see is the ins-ands-outs using of dropbox to sync photos from your phone (taken with your phone) to your Lightroom Classic catalog. I do this now but am confused about how to manage the photos I want to keep on my phone (recent family pics, vax card, etc) and those I want to flush after they sync into my Lightroom catalog. This is especially important now that phone cameras have gotten to be good enough to shoot pictures to add to portfolios in some situations. Would be great to see tips on managing this. With your combined tech and photography background, I can't think of a better person to tackle this. I'm an Android, but iphone users are equally in need.
@allanwolf4781
@allanwolf4781 2 жыл бұрын
A fun video for you to do might be one on your storage set up. I know personally I would be interested.
@xcphotographyukltd3045
@xcphotographyukltd3045 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to hear you say that your catalog is over 20 TB! Amazin Prime members get free unlimited image storage! has saved my butt a couple of times!
@Topgunphoto
@Topgunphoto 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I found in PS I can go filter/camera raw filter and do the masking similar to what I can do in LR.
@maryhumphrey8590
@maryhumphrey8590 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this and for the video about computers. I was getting stressed about which Lightroom works with what and relaxed when I saw a “Tony” video. You always give such great information in a clear way, fortunately, I already bought your book on Lightroom classic, so I was already veering in the right direction for my needs. Thank you!
@stafford90
@stafford90 2 жыл бұрын
this video could not have come at a better time, I am just getting into photography and was wondering the differences myself
@Supermanohman
@Supermanohman 2 жыл бұрын
All I need is a small dog to chase away the intruders though.
@rickymcc9072
@rickymcc9072 2 жыл бұрын
Agree totally, LR Classic is for me the only serious LR option, I effectively ignore mobile LR. All my pics initially go to LRC most can be finessed well enough in LRC then output as needed. PS is still the 'daddy' that takes care of any 'heavy lifting edit work and oddly, just for finessing a one pixel keyline for smaller PDIs (usually pics for amateur photography competitions - aka 'projected digital images').
@AS-oz6ep
@AS-oz6ep 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to mention. A warning. Backblaze DOES NOT help you with bit rot. If your file gets corrupted, Backblaze will happily backup the corrupted file. Yes, it does have a file version history so if you catch it in time, you can go back and recover your original file. But that history (by default) is only 30 days.. so good luck noticing it if it’s not a file you access regularly.
@justmethenetherlands2218
@justmethenetherlands2218 Жыл бұрын
I backup my photos on two external hard drives. Of this, 1 disk stays at my house and the other at my brother's. He also does it the other way around. This way we always have a backup of our photos.
@danaevargas7876
@danaevargas7876 2 жыл бұрын
in all honesty id love a tutorial for your taskbar! its so cool!
@andriano4972
@andriano4972 2 жыл бұрын
Big thank you guys, that was very important information for me. As amateur photographer I was very confused with all naming but not anymore!!! 👍😀 Thanks
@brucewilliamsstudio4932
@brucewilliamsstudio4932 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video Tony. Still relevant a year later. :-)
@smaganas
@smaganas Жыл бұрын
Now this is one of your best videos ever. Even though you didn’t cover Bridge ;)
@Carsos1992
@Carsos1992 Жыл бұрын
Time for a video refresh. Adobe added a lot of features you said were missing, including side by side comparison and now you don’t have to put all your pics in the cloud.
@sfink16
@sfink16 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to pay monthly fees, so I use Open Source Darktable. I have old versions of Adobe, including Elements, C3, C5, etc. I may have considered buying Adobe products had I still had the ability to purchase whichever one I wanted to purchase. So I'll stay with Darktable until that time ever comes, if ever.
@sylvaindupuis5595
@sylvaindupuis5595 2 жыл бұрын
I also decided not to pay a monthly fee but I switched to DxO.
@sfink16
@sfink16 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvaindupuis5595 If it's the DxO that I found the website for I have to say that it's lacking big time. It's doesn't give minimum specs for the products. I primarily run Ubuntu (Linux) on an older medium spec desktop. I shoot Raw only. I don't think DxO will work on my PC. I don't do phone apps for photography.
@sylvaindupuis5595
@sylvaindupuis5595 2 жыл бұрын
@@sfink16 DxO Photolab runs on Windows or MacOS, they don't have a Linux version yet. But it's not a phone apps.
@EmilWall
@EmilWall 2 жыл бұрын
I’m using imaging edge + gimp for similar reasons. It is definitely holding me back but I think it makes sense to further improve my photography for some years before I start paying for lightroom.
@Billwzw
@Billwzw 2 жыл бұрын
Please include a discussion of Photoshop Elements for the more casual user. I know it's not appropriate for a professional workflow, but it works well for a lot of your youtube watchers. IMHO it is much easier to learn than LR or PS. Also it is a one time purchase at a reasonable price.
@Tenchi10
@Tenchi10 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who also uploads snippets here and there on the go... During conventions I go to, I may upload through my phone after hours before sleep. Sometimes in the morning. So I often do use Lightroom for that, with everything mostly syncing up with my desktop software. Then I use mostly all Classic on my desktop, mostly for all the light edits I do. It's just very easy to use. I tried photoshop, but I'm nowhere near as good at doing that like I used to be. It's been many years, and it's changed so much. I'm working my day job so much right now that I have very little time to even learn. I just pay the monthly fee though, so I can at least get the basics for what I feel I need. Definitely considering your books and such. Perhaps when things slow down for me in my daily life lol.
@danielpv1763
@danielpv1763 Жыл бұрын
I lost all my photos of 8 years in 2016 as well. After the shock I could not get back to photography, until now 2023.
@stoef
@stoef 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember if you have maybe done a Video on this before. I'd love a guide on how you organize your images both with regards to the filesystem as well as lightroom (classic) itself.
@Braunalita
@Braunalita Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony, this is a very confusing choice made simpler by you. I will be ordering one of your tutorials.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby Жыл бұрын
Maybe things have changed since this video was published, but the Photography plan (Lightroom Classic) also comes WITH the mobile apps. You don't get as much cloud storage per $$ but who cares, when there are other online storage options and you'd have the full desktop apps. I briefly tried some editing alternatives, to avoid the subscription. And then about every year or so a new version comes out you probably wants or maybe need and that's never free. I value a database I control, and that's the draw with LrC.
@JV-qb6ib
@JV-qb6ib 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony, this video takes the confusion out of my Adobe Photo bundle. Thanks a million, Jack
@Kneedeepinstock
@Kneedeepinstock 11 ай бұрын
Paying a monthly subscription for everything now a days should be criminal. Just give me the software, i pay once and get minor updates...Crooks!
@michellegiles4152
@michellegiles4152 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for clearing this up. Now it makes sense.
@findbradford
@findbradford 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely Chose the right programs capture one and affinity photo
@Khaavrenbbb
@Khaavrenbbb 6 ай бұрын
Looking at darktable as an option. Steeper learning curve but if you like to get into the weeds, you might like it.
@slewisgreen
@slewisgreen 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, your clarity about those subjects are superb...thank you for teaching me some new stuff
@2107J
@2107J 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, I've been following your channel and content a while now, great job. One brief feedback, the cloud actually works slightly different: It's optimized for a Smart-Preview Workflow - meaning, the smart preview memory space is not accounted against those 20 GB. I for myself have tons of Pictures on my local server, but most of my edited smart previews are synced in the cloud, taking only up to 200 MB, yeah Megabytes.
@jordanking7711
@jordanking7711 Жыл бұрын
To sum it up: If you want something similar to the old perpetual licensed versions of Lightroom - Lightroom Classic If you want to be able to share between devices - Lightroom For everything else including graphics design, or want to use it as a plugin to Lightroom Classic and vice versa - Photoshop
@Simon-SBL
@Simon-SBL 2 жыл бұрын
I've had bit-rot, although I didn't know it was called that, the black dot of death!
@shastasky
@shastasky 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this vid. I just purchased classic and photoshop. You made me feel like I did right. Only problem now is they don't pull up my computer so there is a fight with adobe about to happen.
@AMomentInTimeProductions
@AMomentInTimeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Cheapest way to back up your pictures / video's is to burn them to a Verbatim M DISC BDXL 100GB 6X, i do this when i go to bed and write one disk each night, it takes about 6 to 8 hours for it to write the data to a 100 GB disk, at 6X.. but it's said that the disk and the data on it will last about 1,000 years with out worry for bit rot, so you probably won't live long enough to experience losing your data lol.. i have Currently 20 of these disks stored with all my stuff and kept in a safety deposit box, very simple and very easy.. and cheap..
@TonyAndChelsea
@TonyAndChelsea 2 жыл бұрын
It's great that you have the discipline to manually initiate backups but most people will fail at that over time. For most, effective backups must be automated.
@AMomentInTimeProductions
@AMomentInTimeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyAndChelsea This is true, But i care about my work so i make sure they are all backed up.. I have people come up to me, (i have a BA in computer science, 1985 Grad, So my friends run to me when their hard drives crash or they lose data.. At that point what i do is ask them how badly do you want your data back they look at me strange, i tell them about sending the hard drive out to data recovery, and then warn them how expensive it could be. Usually after an experience like that they start making backups.. LOL I Always tell them it's not a matter if IF, It's a matter of when, your hard drive will fail, they all fail sooner or later..
@EdwardBliffin
@EdwardBliffin 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently got into Lightroom CC because of the cloud and image sharing with clients $10 monthly gets me 1TB of storage, Ive also used Gimp for 15+ years
@jimforbes9119
@jimforbes9119 Жыл бұрын
I use current versions of all three apps. I have a workflow that TOTALLY syncs Lr and LrC. I 'Edit In' from either lightroom. Lr returns a .tif version of the image. LrC returns a .psd version. When the file is saved then closed in PS the new file is synced to both LR versions.
@Mr_D555
@Mr_D555 Жыл бұрын
I have a Synology 920+ NAS, I have often wondered if someone had a like-minded friend or family member with a NAS if sharing space on each system would solve the problem of paying for outside storage.
@jimboswe
@jimboswe Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I decided to stop using a cloud storage service and instead bought another synology nas and "gave" it to my parents. I set up an automatic backup to it from my nas and I also taught dad where they should store their photos and they will be backed up to my nas. 2 years ago I even gave another nas as a Christmas gift to my sister and her family so they also got a network storage solution in their house and a set up their backup to my parents nas. Works good so far. :)
@laynetravis
@laynetravis 2 жыл бұрын
Because i prefer lr but im very interested to hear those differences btw bring back one time purchase. Thanks for this video it make me decide Lrc.keep up guys
@gregorypeebles6527
@gregorypeebles6527 2 жыл бұрын
Ok...now I'm confused 😕
@DaveShafer2
@DaveShafer2 2 жыл бұрын
It might also be worth mentioning that only LRC has the book module. Thanks for mentioning BTRFS NAS storage. I am planning on buying a Synology NAS and that will help with my configuration. Really appreciate your informative and unbiased reviews! Thanks
@brucewilliamsstudio4932
@brucewilliamsstudio4932 11 ай бұрын
I have two RAID systems for my photos, so 'bit rot' is a non-issue for me.
@michaelgalliano7955
@michaelgalliano7955 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!! Finally an explanation. Great job. Thank yo again.
@marysage7960
@marysage7960 Жыл бұрын
I know I can always trust your advice thank you
@TheStarkster90
@TheStarkster90 2 жыл бұрын
I switched over to ON1 because I couldn't justify paying for Lightroom each month. I feel like their 2022 version is pretty good, whereas the older versions definitely made me stay with Lightroom Classic for a while.
@benderocks788
@benderocks788 Жыл бұрын
I bought 2 different versions of ON1 Photo Raw, and it was TERRIBLE with both... First version kept crashing in my PC laptop so I ended-up not using it until I bought an M1 Mac. Then I learned that I HAD TO BUY THE SOFTWARE AGAIN so that I could use it in my dedicated M1 Mac... That M1 version I bought, version 2022, has bugs too, it crashes in my M1 Mac, and it also corrupted some of my files. You can't do any elaborate projects with ON1 because it becomes SUPER SLOW, buggy, then it crashes and even corrupts your files. Anyone else having these problems in ON1? There are also misleading things that are said in the ON1 Photo Raw manual and in the official ON1 videos, that ARE FALSE, like ON1 supposedly recognizing your camera's profiles if you shot RAW with one of your camera's profiles. Well ON1 clearly states that these profiles are recognized in ON1 and that you can open your RAW images in ON1 with that profile. NOT TRUE, ON1 only recognizes CERTAIN PROFILES. I found this out the hard way after a day of shooting using a black & white profile I like in my camera, but once the Raw files opened in ON1, no black&white profile to be found despite ON1 clearly stating that ONE1 WILL recognize your camera's profiles, all I got was a color image and I had to waste tons of time to edit to get back to the look I had with my camera's profile when I shot my images in the field. I couldn't get that look and I don't know if I will. Beware if you are considering ON1, it's very buggy if you are doing any elaborate work, and some advertised functions are simply not there... ON1 Photo Raw has been tons of frustration for me and very little satisfaction. Looking elsewhere now for a better / reliable tool, especially one that is not subscription based as I'm not a fan of coercion and corporate arrogance (Adobe anyone?) :o/
@Gremlack13
@Gremlack13 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly utilize Lightroom, as it is very straightforward for most of the work that I do. I will occasionally open Lightroom Classic and become intimidated, because I haven’t put the time in to learn it yet. One day I shall do that, but for the time being, I am happy mostly using Lightroom for the light editing that I currently do. Either way, I enjoy the adobe phot editing environment, especially as a casual photography enthusiast.
@LizVerkannt
@LizVerkannt 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooooo much!! I was wondering since a year now why lightroom (a program that i always loved) got so fucked up and why i can't store anything locally. now i know, AND know the solution for it.
@1jbunceiii
@1jbunceiii 2 жыл бұрын
I just got the Synology 1520+...they are awesome. I just started a subscription to creative cloud.
@mediamenace1879
@mediamenace1879 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. When I first saw the new change I stuck with classic for two reasons, first being I know what my PC can handle, I don't know what an online service can, second I don't like online storage, I don't like a service doing things to my property I don't know about. With that being said, I get the data corruption over time thing, but honestly I have old family photos taken over twenty years ago that are just fine today. Now granted, really important things I have backed up on a few different storage devices, but even the oldest seem just fine. Now I may be one of the lucky ones, I am currently sitting with a dead hard drive less than a year old, so...
@ChrisSummers
@ChrisSummers 2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation and recommendations, Tony. I started out with Photoshop 4.0 and later on added Bridge when it came out as my browsing and sorting program and Lightroom was out for a few years before I finally embraced it. That being said I use Lightroom CC just about every day and like you do most editing there. I only move an image onto Photoshop or some other program if I feel I have gone as far as possible with Lightroom. I rarely even open Bridge anymore.
@collabsphotography
@collabsphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Lightroom is great for mass productions such as marriage, party photography reportage etc. (your customer expects 100 or more pictures) But if you want detail work on the highest quality, High quality fashion for 1 to 6 pictures and printed in maxi sizes -> lightroom doesn't even come close to photoshop. PS = High Frequency Separation, 20 or more masks, color select and editor, making any change that is not just spot removal :) Photoshop will always get my preference when doing that 1 shot. PS: you guys make awesome video's!
@sergeyzakharov7326
@sergeyzakharov7326 2 жыл бұрын
from my experience Lr is just much faster in comparison with LrC. that makes working on hundreds/thousands of photos a lot more convenient. thats the main reason why i choose to go with Lr for my sports photography
@a.tucker4044
@a.tucker4044 2 жыл бұрын
Now if I only understood what the Bridge app does
@lesfisher8941
@lesfisher8941 2 жыл бұрын
My workflow is Bridge, Raw and Photoshop, Raw dialog is PS is the same UI as LR, no need to use LR.
@walterhumbird4040
@walterhumbird4040 2 жыл бұрын
Tony, You are a wealth of information! Please tell me about your Synology home storage and which model I should go with so I can get my photos off my portable hard drives before it’s too late?
@HippyNZ
@HippyNZ Жыл бұрын
cloud storage comes with your account. never used all of the base 20gb as i do not store everything in the cloud where others can steal it (people seem to forget how many of these have been hacked), also working from cloud all the time is way slower. For back up i use local drives
@johndynan2059
@johndynan2059 Жыл бұрын
I thought about moving from Lrc to Lr and then it popped up with a warning that once I migrated my catalogue, I couldn't undo it. Nah. Stuck with Lightroom Classic.
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