Lightroom vs Lightroom Classic vs Photoshop: Did you choose right?

[@modelcitizen1977]

The cloud part of creative cloud doesn’t do anything for me. Bring back perpetual licenses.

[@asmrdadbod2483]

Completely agree

[@ruperterskin2117]

Agree

[@blackie75]

Everyone wants this, the creative cloud part was just a giant excuse to optimize profits for adobe and keep you on the financial teat.

[@raulgalets]

affinitt photo have a perpetual license. It is not the same but it is a nice to have. I would even recommend getting a CS6 perpetual license if you can. software as a service sucks

[@rexxxxxxxxx]

@@raulgalets it won’t get new camera/lens support, right?

[@shanewilliams613]

Yes, I chose Affinity Photo when Adobe went to the subscription model and my current versions stopped recognizing new camera RAW files. Have never looked back.

[@markexploringnewstuff]

Best and clearest explanation of of LRC, LR and PS. Thank you Tony!

[@Kneedeepinstock]

Paying a monthly subscription for everything now a days should be criminal. Just give me the software, i pay once and get minor updates...Crooks!

[@martt1746]

I would be nice if you guys would compare Lightroom to the competition like: Capture One, DxO, luminar etc..

[@marasaTQ]

exactly

[@TailoredTechnique]

I agree. Isn’t those one time payments ?

[@apocaloptigon9988]

rawtherapee, my beloved

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

I used Lightroom until version 5.7, when it became a monthly fee. I'm just a casual photographer so I didn't tough that I needed to pay each month. I now use DXO I still use Lightroom for it's library functionality (DxO is getting better at that, I may not need Lightroom at all in not too long), but for the treatment of my photos, DxO is really good enough for me.

[@mbr5742]

LR6 was still "pay once"

[@nigelcliff7390]

Exactly the same with me DXO is a great processor and the Lightroom plugin works seamlessly

[@RealHouseMouse2]

I’m still using LR 5

[@marasaTQ]

@@RealHouseMouse2 me too, about to upgrade my operating system which will not then run LR5 and I'll have to "marry" the subscription model (ech!)

[@dragonfly656]

@@marasaTQ Yep, system upgrades are a big problem. I still use a dark age system in order to run stand alone Photoshop plus an older version of DXO. I can’t let go of Photoshop.

[@Jimsranch]

From a long time newby to photography thank you!! Whenever I was wanting to sign up for a class I was always asking myself which program to use - this naming legacy from Adobe has been impossible. Thank you very much Tony for putting this video together!!!

[@smaakjeks]

My process: *1)* File dump onto hard drive -> Open Bridge -> Wait a few moments for preview render -> Full Screen and browse pics -> Open file I like in Adobe Raw, click Done instead of Cancel to create an XMP file -> Repeat until finished -> Scroll down the files on my OS file browser and select RAW images that have an XMP file associated with them -> Open in Adobe Raw -> Edit -> Open in Photoshop -> Final edits -> Save as JPG high def (for print), and JPG small (for web). *2)* Name folder by YYYY_MM_DD_[trip/location/name]. XMP files remain, instead of me having to remember which pics I liked. *3)* Back up to 2 or 3 hard drives. Best ones on the cloud.

[@ronjenkins4257]

I'm also using the sidecar files because I don't want to be locked into Lightroom's catalog system.

[@smaakjeks]

@@ronjenkins4257 Yeah. With the sidecar files, then at most Birdge will need to re-load files in that particular folder if I want to revisit pics for printing. And if I'm working on a different computer, I don't have to do anything but plug in and load Bridge again.

[@DeborahZajac]

I'm the same. I only use Photoshop, Adobe's picture downloader via Bridge then ACR when ready to develop my images . Regarding hard drives-I have a back up drive on my computer that backs up every day, and I also use Backblaze for offsite back up. I have developed a pretty good filing and folder system for my images over the years so retrieving them from years ago is fairly simple. I tried Lightroom and I just can't handle the catalog system they use. It drove me nuts with missing pictures and moving catalogs etc. I'm a Photoshop, ACR, Bridge gal.

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

I choose affinity and capture one, thank you :)

[@erik1836]

Thank you Tony for delineating for me when I survived on my own as well in regards to the relative purposes of the various programs.

[@Ardspans]

This video is all I needed to decide what was best for me. Thank you for the information, it really helped me.

[@jameschilton3556]

I moved away from Adobe to Affinity Photo due to their subscription model. To be honest, I could now easily afford Adobe but Affinity does everything I need and does some things better than Adobe for a very reasonable one off cost. I think I paid about £30 (～$41) four years ago and have had updates with improvements since then for free. The UI is so similar to Adobe there is very little relearning to do so it's easy to switch too.

[@apocaloptigon9988]

affinity photo is very good, i approve

[@nogerboher5266]

Yeah but what Adobes software has and no other image editing software has, is fluid, intuitive and easy to work with user interface. Working in PS and LRC is the easiest, most fluid and most intuitive user experience ever. Programs like Capture One, Affinity, Skylum Luminar or any others, are just terrible to work in/with. The UI is much more important than the subscription fee amount - at least to me it is. I am willing to pay $1000 more if I have to, just to have a fluid, easy to work with and intuitive UI to edit my shoots in.

[@jameschilton3556]

@@nogerboher5266 Affinity Photo is far easier to use! I used Photoshop for years, then Lightroom and Photoshop. The Affinity UI is so similar it took no effort to change and there are certain features of Affinity which are better than Adobe. Cost is irrelevant to me as well so it's a double win - better software and no rent.

[@konstawillberg9039]

I would like to hear your take on Capture One from a photoediting perspective. Pricing etc is what it is.

[@konstawillberg9039]

@@davexmit that’s true. Still, would be nice to hear.

[@mult1t4sk]

Talk about perfect timing. I was just looking through your lightroom playlist looking for an updated video discussing thoughts and comparisons on lightroom vs classic. Over the last couple of days I've been going through and watching a lot of your content. It's amazing and really helpful and I hope you and Chelsea bring back Picture This! and T&C Live (T&C Live was hilarious, loved them)

[@Chasing-Wisdom]

Same here exactly

[@trishfoster3732]

I was just trying to figure it out as well.

[@sephiroth127]

My problem with Backblaze is that it doesn't let you backup network drives. Since I keep all my pictures on my NAS and edit them on my Mac, Backblaze is basically useless.

[@straightshooter6309]

Largely because of this great video breakdown of the three products I've purchased one of your video bundles. Nicely done!

[@bioliv1]

Lr in the cloud and Capture One on your desk is the ultimate combination and the best from two worlds!

[@ccooper5420]

The break in video with the dog really sold me on this.

[@PeterBrockie]

Lightroom Classic also supports proper plug-ins like Negative Lab Pro.

[@nike448105]

Hi Tony, You should mention that if you create collections in Lightroom classic it stores pictures globally for free but at a lower file size

[@d_dave7200]

I have no intention of paying for cloud storage for my photos. Sorry. I have a high quality NAS system in my home, an extra backup in a fireproof, flood proof lockbox, and a third copy at a family member's home (also in a fireproof, flood proof lock box). Yes, if something extremely unlikely happens, I might lose the more recent photos that are just on my hard drive and NAS, but honestly that's not enough to make me pay a company for the rest of my life. If a shoot is really super important to me, like a major life event, I'll make sure it's fully backed up in all three places immediately. No system is foolproof, but this is more than good enough for me. (I'm also still using an old version of Lightroom so I don't have to pay a subscription. Though with all the new features, I'll probably cave on that at some point since it would certainly save me time.)

[@lour7753]

I use all 3. I pay for the 1TB photography plan. I upload all my new photos to Lr. Once uploaded, I can edit in both Lr and LrC. I create albums to share using Lr (you didn’t mention this in your video). LrC is my main cataloging app. As my cloud storage gets full, I delete older pics from Lr, but they are retained by LrC (stored on HD). I use Backblaze to backup my LrC HD. The sharing feature of Lr is very useful, I don’t have to export edited pics, then upload to Dropbox, or Flickr, etc…. I can create as many online albums as I choose. An FYI, if you upload pics to your cloud via Lr, your shared albums have full resolution pics available for download. If you upload pics only from LrC via online collections, your albums have 2048 px images max available for download.

[@jimforbes9119]

I use current versions of all three apps. I have a workflow that TOTALLY syncs Lr and LrC. I 'Edit In' from either lightroom. Lr returns a .tif version of the image. LrC returns a .psd version. When the file is saved then closed in PS the new file is synced to both LR versions.

[@timothygoetz9742]

I've been away from LR for 5 or so years. I kept my Creative cloud subscription, so this video helped me get reacquainted with the platform. Thank you.

[@johneisele6264]

Man this should be the #1 video when I search for lightroom in KZbin. So many creaters refer to lightroom classic as lightroom. (Because that's its name) as a newbie, I had no way of knowing that, went and got lightroom, started trying to use it, and was wondering why it looked different, and lacked so many features. Then I found your video, buried in results for a search, explaining exactly what was going on here. Tl;dr: thank you.

[@es0terra]

I fear that Adobe will discontinue Lightroom Classic CC, and force everyone to Lightroom CC, forcing everyone to cloud storage, holding our files hostage to online storage. If they do this, I’m walking away from Adobe. What is your take on this Tony?

[@todddammit4628]

I already walked away from Adobe. Its not so bad once you find another software kit you like.

[@charlesdavis2165]

IMHO, it all boils down to $$. Before the cloud, Photoshop cost $700, give or take a couple hundred. So "average Joe" thinks - "$700! Yikes! I can't afford that!" Or, "I'll splurge, but it'll be a one-time thing. I won't pay for upgrades." Adobe ends up losing $$ b/c they have more supply than demand. Adobe thinks, "If Joe won't pay for upgrades, we're sunk." So Adobe uses the tried and true "take away" philosophy. They discontinue a product with which you've formed an emotional and familiar bond. At the same time, they entice you with a "new, improved" product that's budget-friendly, has unlimited updates, PLUS cloud storage! "What a deal!" you think. Until you start calculating. Usually, by then, the stand-alone versions have mysteriously vanished off the shelves, and you're forced to use the new system. Hope this makes sense [think Microsoft Office Suite vs. 365; same philosophy]

[@chuckm482]

What's to stop them from not only holding OUR photos hostage, but changing them just a bit so when you retrieve them if you want to change software ... they won't work on any other product. I was sick of the cloud when software companies 1st started using this. I want stand alone software back. There's nothing on my computer that's cloud based.

[@stevenbridge]

The truth is you can do anything in Photoshop and Camera Raw that you can do in Lightroom plus a whole lot more. It may be a steeper learning curve but you can start out using it as though it was Lightroom and go from there. I started with Photoshop 3.0 with no training, (there was no KZbin then) but still managed to edit my shots and learned as I went. To tell you the truth I am still learning new techniques every time I use it thanks to the additional functionality that Adobe puts into Photoshop every iteration.

[@stoef]

I don't remember if you have maybe done a Video on this before. I'd love a guide on how you organize your images both with regards to the filesystem as well as lightroom (classic) itself.

[@MichaelSeneschal]

I’d still be using LR perpetual if it would support the raw files on my new camera. Was using LR since version 2 and the workflow was so ingrained in me. I moved to Capture One about 1.5 years ago and am still not as fluent as I used to be with LR, but I’m 90% there. The subscription model was such a turn off for me that I considered shooting jpg only, and just using Photo Mechanic to rate and organize my photos. I’ve been doing photography for 15 years now and as time goes on I edit my photos less and less, so my eventual goal is to shoot jpg and not edit anyways. :)

[@rickfarber4243]

I can make it much easier. Just switch to Capture One. It has far better masking, exporting, tethered shooting, pano stitching, and may other advantages. It is a bit more expensive, however.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

I don't love it. No good mobile app, for one.

[@pebmets]

I prefer Capture One to Lightroom. If I want to do even more modifications, I can send it to Photoshop from within Capture One

[@bjorn7100]

I also think Capture One is at least as good, at least for my needs, than Lightroom Classic which I have used before. The main reason for me switching is because I could buy a licence and not have to subscribe every month/year like with Adobe. I'm just a hobbyist so don't need to upgrade every year or so. Also, Adobe are quite terrible regarding their privacy policy from what I've heard.

[@rickfarber4243]

@@TonyAndChelsea In fairness, no application is clearly the best for all users. Just as you both say, there is no best camera - it depends on your needs. I'd love to see Tony do a thorough comparison of LR vs C1 to highlight the benefits and drawbacks of each system.

[@walrusgumboot]

I want cloud service integration, I just don’t want it to cost as much as Adobe wants to charge. I can be anywhere in the world and access my raw files in Lightroom in seconds. On any mobile device or even any computer with a browser. That’s awesome, just too expensive. Currently on a 3tb plan, but if I had the data that Tony does, it’s a lot harder

[@KaiTiura]

Let's be honest... instead of paying "one large sum", you pay a MUCH larger sum by having to pay monthly! Free updates is where it sorta evens out, but subscription-based software is much more expensive. That said, I have to say this is one of my more favored plug videos I've seen lately. Informative, as long as you're well-versed in this stuff already or are adept at hitting the back button so you can catch it all. Lots of good info here. Backup storage is a must, even if you're like me and only shoot a small amount of photos but want to keep them. Hard drives fail! I will be checking out your tutorial video offerings. Thanks for all your content!

[@Khaavrenbbb]

Looking at darktable as an option. Steeper learning curve but if you like to get into the weeds, you might like it.

[@walterhumbird4040]

Tony, You are a wealth of information! Please tell me about your Synology home storage and which model I should go with so I can get my photos off my portable hard drives before it’s too late?

[@quirkypurple]

I'm still just stuck using PS and Bridge.

[@denisroy81]

PS, Bridge and Adobe Camera Raw for me

[@onsafari]

Thank you tony. You saved me a tremendous amount of time and anguish. I have just made the exact mistake that you mentioned and subscribed to Lightroom rather than Lightroom Classic. I will be changing my plan right away.

[@charlesludwig9173]

I’m a real estate photographer. I edit with LrC. I was apprehensive about the latest version with new masking features but it has worked out to produce better edits, although taking greater time now an average of 6 minutes per image vs 4 on previous LrC version.

[@jackblah5842]

I've been with Lightroom (classic) since the beginning and remember how sexy Apple Aperture was so I ran both. Aperture was fun to play around in but when it came time to organize and cull a large number of photos for a project I always found myself going back to LR.

[@tonyzambos3138]

Thank you for eliminating some of the confusion I had between the different Lightrooms and Photoshop. I'm an old hobbyist with a large number of digital photos plus slides, photos and negatives converted to digital. Since my post processing needs and wants are minimal, I've used Photoshop Elements for many years. It has its own organizational program. I know I should use it but haven't so far. For storage I am using a 4-TB raid array set to mirror all the data. As everyone should know, there are only two types of disk drives, the ones that have failed and the ones that will. Every couple of months, all my files are copied to an additional USB drive that gets stored in a safe deposit box at my local bank.

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

So i have the student package from Adobe - that gives me all the apps plus 100GB of cloud storage, i have LRC installed on my PC and i shunt all the files from my camera onto the pc and edit them in LRC and sometimes use PS for stuff i cant do in LRC. I have the LR app installed on my Z fold 4 and edit pictures on the go using that whenever iv taken images using my mobile phone, its quite handy and has a lot of decent features - i wasnt aware that it syncs with my LRC though? I need to check that out and see if the images from the cloud are also on my LRC/Pc.

[@thenexthobby]

Maybe things have changed since this video was published, but the Photography plan (Lightroom Classic) also comes WITH the mobile apps. You don't get as much cloud storage per $$ but who cares, when there are other online storage options and you'd have the full desktop apps. I briefly tried some editing alternatives, to avoid the subscription. And then about every year or so a new version comes out you probably wants or maybe need and that's never free. I value a database I control, and that's the draw with LrC.

[@MrRcSmallwood]

I am confused. Much as I would have liked to purchase the LR classic tutorial on SD card, there seems to be no way of doing it on the product page.

[@smithcon]

Thanks for the video! Another video I'd love to see is the ins-ands-outs using of dropbox to sync photos from your phone (taken with your phone) to your Lightroom Classic catalog. I do this now but am confused about how to manage the photos I want to keep on my phone (recent family pics, vax card, etc) and those I want to flush after they sync into my Lightroom catalog. This is especially important now that phone cameras have gotten to be good enough to shoot pictures to add to portfolios in some situations. Would be great to see tips on managing this. With your combined tech and photography background, I can't think of a better person to tackle this. I'm an Android, but iphone users are equally in need.

[@NancyAnderson-s2s]

Thank you. I even wrote to Adobe by way of their online talk and they connected me to someone that did NOT answer my question. My question was. I purchased lightroom 4.1 which came with luminar 4 . I am looking at lightroom classic but you dont always use that terminology and I am confused. I sure dont want to buy another program if I already have it. They didnt bother to explain . They sent me a link to the comparison that I had already looked at. I asked again. They answered the same. Then said Is there anything else I can help with you. I said obviously you cant help me at all.

[@Matt90541]

I prefer Lightroom (cloud) and Adobe Bridge. Pretty simple solution with storage...only import the absolute keepers into Lightroom...never paid for storage.

[@Mafia_meatball]

Soo would Photoshop be best for Graphic Designers?

[@Mr_D555]

I have a Synology 920+ NAS, I have often wondered if someone had a like-minded friend or family member with a NAS if sharing space on each system would solve the problem of paying for outside storage.

[@jimboswe]

A few years ago I decided to stop using a cloud storage service and instead bought another synology nas and "gave" it to my parents. I set up an automatic backup to it from my nas and I also taught dad where they should store their photos and they will be backed up to my nas. 2 years ago I even gave another nas as a Christmas gift to my sister and her family so they also got a network storage solution in their house and a set up their backup to my parents nas. Works good so far. :)

[@KNURKonesur]

Bought Photoshop CS6 many years ago and still use it today. Camera RAW has all the functions I need from Lightroom so I never thought about other software especially that it's all subscription based nowadays and I don't shoot pictures all year round anyway.

[@rejphotography]

I’m still confused on how to buy LrC. So I’ve been using LR 3 for the last 10 yrs or so and have been perfectly happy with it. I recently updated my iMac OS to Ventura 13.1 and now I no longer have the ability to import photos into my Lr 3 program. As much as I hate the idea of paying for a subscription, I decided to go ahead and consider my LrC options. I will not be using any cloud storage at all and have multiple backup routines already in practice that I’m comfortable with. It took me forever to find just LrC on the adobe site, and even though it says I can store and organize all my photos on my desktop, it looks like I’m still buying creative cloud storage. I don’t see any way to just subscribe to the LrC software without also having to deal with the cloud.

[@rejphotography]

I’m wondering if I need to buy the alt Ps Photography (20GB) at $9.99 per month and just use LrC as I normally would. 10 yrs ago I purchased the full adobe suite for right around $2k. I’d be willing to do this again if they had this option available.

[@wanderinwhilewecan]

Such a great summary of all these products. I seriously needed this! THANK YOU!!

[@okaro6595]

If you are a casual photographer and want just the editing features of Photoshop there is the Photoshop Elements. It is slightly limited version for casual users. The best is that it is a single purchase under $100 and it is for you to use as long as you want - though if you shoot raw you may need to upgrade if you get a new camera (unless you convert to DNG).

[@mikeperri7246]

Tony - many thanks for your review of the confusing Abode Lightroom options. I recently switched from Lr to LrC and really glad I did. I was none too happy about cloud storage; never have been. So I was glad to see here, great minds think alike. I have a Synology NAS and it really was/is a great investment. Especially when considering the cumulative cost of cloud storage. Synology Photos app is a joy to use and access from the desktop or mobile. Any NAS whichever is an individual preference is the way to go. BTW Synology also offer cloud storage but its probably more cost effective to keep augmenting and evolving your NAS home storage.

[@iancurrie8844]

I’ve tried both and prefer the new Lightroom. When I renewed my subscription, I tried classic again but again found it didn’t suit my needs. I’m happy with the new Lightroom. That said, adobe’s bugs in its software is astonishing. They have absolutely the worst quality control in the world.

[@walrusgumboot]

I agree and found the same thing. Used to be a classic user, but am happy with Lightroom now. I don’t have a 20tb catalogue, and am happy enough storing mine in the cloud through Adobe but agree their cloud pricing is over the top. I’m on a 3tb plan.

[@befreetv354]

Tony&Chelsea are Pros ! Thats why I am watching them always...and this is a very good example! Cheers !

[@carlmcneill1139]

I have the photography plan so I have both versions of Lightroom, Photoshop plus a few others. I rarely use LR. I mostly use LRC and Photoshop. I did have the app on my phone that I use when I'm on vacation when I want to post to social media. But I bracket a lot of my shots and blend the exposures so I have to use Photoshop for that. By the way, Coca Cola classic is still not the original version. They switched from sugar too high fructose corn syrup. You can actually taste the difference if you really know coke. I think they came out with new coke to drastically change the taste so that when they rolled out the "classic" coke you wouldn't know they changed something. But I noticed. Google when coke came out with new coke and when they switched sweeteners.

[@gracejiang7433]

Do brushes only work with Lightroom classic and not Lightroom? For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to import brushes into Lightroom. Thanks!!

[@junkbop]

Thanks for the breakdown. I always appreciate your POV, Tony. In this instance, I think there are some very popular use cases that you're under-weighting. For example... I take photos for pleasure, mostly with my Canon R5 but also with my iPhone 13 Pro Max. I use all of LR, LRC, and PS... but the single most RELAXING & ENJOYABLE photo editing experience I've had is using LR on my iPad with an Apple Pencil. I can easily transfer my big-camera photos directly to LR on the iPad using an SD card dongle, and the app seamlessly syncs with photos taken on my iPhone. LR even integrates with the iPad version of PS (which is much simpler than the PC version, but can get many basic PS jobs done... certainly good enough for many social media use cases). I can do all of this from my couch... which feels a lot less like work and a lot more like art... to me.

[@nerdnam]

I use it in bed, under the covers.

[@Grim_Druid]

@@nerdnam giggity

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

I pay like $9.99 a month for Creative Cloud from Adobe which includes LightRoom and Adobe Bridge and online storage. I purchased the online version because I operate from three different computers systems, plus it’s faster for me to access and edit my stuff. But when using Adobe Bridge I cannot edit RAW files in Bridge because I don’t own Photoshop or LightRoom Classic ! But, I’m paying for LightRoom online. Lol. I’m still paying so why can’t I edit raw files in Bridge? I use to own LightRoom Classic but decided to do the online version because it’s more convenient out on the road. Have I got this wrong or is there a legal workaround. Thanks.

[@lilianyelamo9879]

Hi, I am self training to become a real estate photographer, which one should I use?, I already downloaded LR Photoshop Lightroom (version 5.4) , but I don't think it's photoshop itself. It's confusing, thanks for your help~

[@cybrarian9]

Me, I'm just annoyed that Adobe went on the subscription model for Lightroom (classic). I have no real need for Photoshop, but I do like using Lightroom as that covers most of my photo editing needs and I mostly want the database part of the product. I have zero interest in paying for a subscription that I might not need that many times in a year as I no longer take nearly as many photos as I used to and now am working on scanning images for a personal genealogical project.

[@roxanebay]

Where has the visualize spots box go to? Miss it and not sure if I lost it or if it was removed in the latest update? Thank you for your help.

[@GrandmasterBBC]

I don't know why but I still find this confusing. I thought Lightroom classic was purchasing the software with no monthly fee. It looks like all versions have a monthly fee. Adobe really likes to make this confusing.

[@DavidB-tj3rj]

If you use another cloud service (I use iCloud) a work around I have found is that I just export my developed pictures to the photos app and keep the raw photos on a backed up file on a my desktop. I like Apple’s way of organizing photos and really only use Lightroom for edits. I don’t have more than 2tb photos yet. May be different if that was the case.

[@maryhumphrey8590]

Thank you for this and for the video about computers. I was getting stressed about which Lightroom works with what and relaxed when I saw a “Tony” video. You always give such great information in a clear way, fortunately, I already bought your book on Lightroom classic, so I was already veering in the right direction for my needs. Thank you!

[@boogiebonefan]

Thanks for this video! I've been hopelessly confused to the point of frustration about the features and uses of these three Adobe photo apps. Now I have the knowledge to make better decisions as far as my photography is concerned.

[@TinthiaClemant]

Oh dear, I’m so confused. I just want to process my bird photos. And I need masking. Help!!!😞

[@joshguntercreative194]

I love you guys for knowledge I want to talk I went to brooks Institute of photography in Santa Barbara. I learn more from you than my entire three years of training at that school..

[@HippyNZ]

cloud storage comes with your account. never used all of the base 20gb as i do not store everything in the cloud where others can steal it (people seem to forget how many of these have been hacked), also working from cloud all the time is way slower. For back up i use local drives

[@dohman76]

So, am I safe to assume that with LRC any changes I make to the RAW file stay attached to it on my local server and with LR they are only on the cloud service?

[@2107J]

Hi Tony, I've been following your channel and content a while now, great job. One brief feedback, the cloud actually works slightly different: It's optimized for a Smart-Preview Workflow - meaning, the smart preview memory space is not accounted against those 20 GB. I for myself have tons of Pictures on my local server, but most of my edited smart previews are synced in the cloud, taking only up to 200 MB, yeah Megabytes.

[@johngrant765]

Lightroom CC 2023 and the phone app mostly work fine for me in terms of editing and exporting for social media etc. Where I find it frustrating exporting for printing. You can’t set the dpi based on the size you want to print. You have use the formula using ppi to set dpi. I’m not even certain it makes much difference.

[@marvinpayne4578]

I currently use Lightroom (mobile). When I purchased this I was confused as to which version of Lightroom to purchase - CC vs mobile. Now that my photography has advanced using the mobile version how can I switch over to Lightroom CC without loosing all my photos that are currently on the Cloud?

[@janwedek]

FYI, Lightroom (Cloud) has side-by-side compare. I assume this was added after this video was released. Plugins would be really nice though.

[@migueltrujillo5932]

So to get the same experience I had with the Lighroom 6 Stand alone software, do I need the Classic CC? Because I down load a free trail with Lighroom with one TB and also looks like a different editor from the one I used to use.

[@mpharr2]

Which is best to store/access captured from iPhone Mirrorless camera and scanned negatives ?

[@patrickbower5359]

Does your Lightroom classic training cover all the features in the latest version?

[@imae5566]

This all too confusing. I used to use Lightroom 6 and then the subscriptions happened. All that I want is to use Lightroom and want to print at home and store on my computer. Is Lightroom Classic the version that is the same as what I was using when I had version 6?

[@denegrindal1248]

Hello Tony, with the mobile app using something as powerful as the new IPad Pro, can Lightroom be used to edit and save to an external drive? Rather than the cloud? With so many SSD drives that can be attached to the iPad it would be safer and cheaper

[@chumito10]

The history lesson at the beginning is appreciated! Would be nice to see a similar video about GoPro's Quik app

[@2logj]

Hi Tony I live in the UK.if I get your lightroom training will you ship the book to UK.? thanks.

[@allanwolf4781]

A fun video for you to do might be one on your storage set up. I know personally I would be interested.

[@naseebullahnaseeb9152]

Sir I have installed the simple version Lightroom in my PC Now the photo add button is disabled I can't add photos for edit Can you please tell me how can I add.

[@Topgunphoto]

Great video, I found in PS I can go filter/camera raw filter and do the masking similar to what I can do in LR.

[@CTBikesalot]

I've been running a stand alone version of LR 6.14 for several years and I've become comfortable with the it's use (and I'm still learning). I feel like I should upgrade to the subscription version. My question is which subscription would be the closest to what I'm running? And can I still store locally?

[@Renerator]

I've been a fan of you guys for years Tony! Awesome vid as usual! I see you mention the mobile app at the 4:18 mark. I recently downloaded Lightroom on a new PC and I guess I got the simple mobile/PC software. It has a bunch of pics from last year on it and some new pics I recently took on my new Sony A7Cii. So I went back and download Lightroom Classic, which is what I thought I was getting with my first download. Is there a way to transfer the pics on the Lightroom basic to Classic? I appreciate any help!

[@captainjimcook]

I’m new to photography and am considering an editing program. Can Lightroom Classic allow you to embed copyright information? IE: name of photographer, place where photo was shot, company name.

[@briantodd6903]

hay Tony am i missing something i cant find lightroom classic without storage and Mobil looks like there all bundled just starting desktop will be fine for now thank you love your videos

[@AS-oz6ep]

One thing to mention. A warning. Backblaze DOES NOT help you with bit rot. If your file gets corrupted, Backblaze will happily backup the corrupted file. Yes, it does have a file version history so if you catch it in time, you can go back and recover your original file. But that history (by default) is only 30 days.. so good luck noticing it if it’s not a file you access regularly.

[@HartponderJr]

Topaz Sharping, DeNoise and Gigapixel is blowing me away… do you review?

[@Carsos1992]

Time for a video refresh. Adobe added a lot of features you said were missing, including side by side comparison and now you don’t have to put all your pics in the cloud.

[@TimStotz1]

Unless I'm wrong, you can't create presets, or install brush presets that I purchased--for instance, from you, in Lightroom, only Classic. That was a bit deal for me, especially as I was learning my way around what the brush was capable of. Not to mention, it's just convenient to have those tools dialed in at once, instead of haing to fiddle with the sliders every time.

[@Akiidan]

You can create presets and download purchased presets onto Lightroom CC, in fact you can download other photographers presets directly from CC if the photographer allows it. creating and downloading presents just a little more complicated and annoying in CC

[@TonyAndChelsea]

They both support loading presets

[@TimStotz1]

@@TonyAndChelsea Thank you. I'll look into it. As much as I prefer Classic, being in the field or at a coffee shop with an ipad, and using the pencil is a great way to add to the flow. I'll look into how to install them. Unless...you want to do a quick tutorial on that.

[@TimStotz1]

@@Akiidan Thank you for the heads up!

[@TimStotz1]

@@TonyAndChelsea I see how I can download and use presets on my iPad. I use some of yours pretty often. But not Brish presets. What am I missing?

[@sfink16]

I refuse to pay monthly fees, so I use Open Source Darktable. I have old versions of Adobe, including Elements, C3, C5, etc. I may have considered buying Adobe products had I still had the ability to purchase whichever one I wanted to purchase. So I'll stay with Darktable until that time ever comes, if ever.

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

I also decided not to pay a monthly fee but I switched to DxO.

[@sfink16]

@@sylvaindupuis5595 If it's the DxO that I found the website for I have to say that it's lacking big time. It's doesn't give minimum specs for the products. I primarily run Ubuntu (Linux) on an older medium spec desktop. I shoot Raw only. I don't think DxO will work on my PC. I don't do phone apps for photography.

[@sylvaindupuis5595]

@@sfink16 DxO Photolab runs on Windows or MacOS, they don't have a Linux version yet. But it's not a phone apps.

[@EmilWall]

I’m using imaging edge + gimp for similar reasons. It is definitely holding me back but I think it makes sense to further improve my photography for some years before I start paying for lightroom.

[@Gabriel_Drake]

Hi Tony. Nice Video. I have a question : I've heard you can use Lightroom together with Microsoft OneDrive. If you already have a 1 TB OneDrive you use with your Microsoft 365 subscription, can you just pay the 10$ Lightroom monthly base plan of 20GB, and connect your OneDrive, so that you can have 1 TB in Lightroom without the need to pay for a higher Adobe tier?

[@DaveShafer2]

It might also be worth mentioning that only LRC has the book module. Thanks for mentioning BTRFS NAS storage. I am planning on buying a Synology NAS and that will help with my configuration. Really appreciate your informative and unbiased reviews! Thanks

[@brucewilliamsstudio4932]

I have two RAID systems for my photos, so 'bit rot' is a non-issue for me.

[@yonishperling1531]

What about Capture.1? The rendering colors and etc is still superior in 2024 (November 24). You don’t think? Btw, maybe make a book/course or combo for photoshop and lightroom

[@johndynan2059]

I thought about moving from Lrc to Lr and then it popped up with a warning that once I migrated my catalogue, I couldn't undo it. Nah. Stuck with Lightroom Classic.

[@icexe1]

I'm a lot more comfortable with the Bridge->ACR->PS workflow. I tried using LR a few times but I found it to be so slow and cumbersome and I'm not a Pro, so don't really need all the cataloging and tagging features. For backups I use a combination of internal, external and cloud backups.

[@tjt072]

If I wanted to try to do photo manipulation, Which one is best for that? The one thing I hate bout any Adobe photo program is that you have to pay a monthly fee on top of paying for the program. I barely get by and can't afford something like that (it's also why I can't sadly store my photos in the cloud) but I am hoping one day I can get an Adobe photo program

[@Billwzw]

Please include a discussion of Photoshop Elements for the more casual user. I know it's not appropriate for a professional workflow, but it works well for a lot of your youtube watchers. IMHO it is much easier to learn than LR or PS. Also it is a one time purchase at a reasonable price.

[@JuanLopezmusica]

it actually does have now, I just did it "match pictures"

[@randyvincent6791]

Oh Tony, love your video's ! Love watching you and wife compete to, so funny!