Lightyear is Beyond Infinitely Stupid

[@SnugWugs137]

Honestly, if they wanted to fix the continuity thing, they could've just been like, "This is a reboot movie that Andy would've seen as an adult, like the TMNT or Transformers movies."

[@LDtheBrachio]

2007 TMNT? Despite some issues, it is fun and cool.

[@BrianAwesome]

Or this can be a prequel, to the old show.

[@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494]

Oh but see that wouldn't *sell as much*

[@goiabexp]

I think that would've framed the movie better. Considering how the characters in Lightyear didn't appear in the main series, it would've made more sense for it to be a reboot within the universe. Heck, they could've tied Andy into it, maybe he saw it with his kid.

[@SnugWugs137]

@@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494 Artistic integrity over money; let that be an important lesson for you.

[@JRAnimationStudios]

You know things are tough when people would rather watch an entire movie's worth of negative commentary than the movie itself

[@dingding12321]

TRUE

[@cajunking5987]

I enjoyed the movie

[@ajyenko366]

so true...

[@jranimations5955]

We meet again….

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@cajunking5987 How

[@BetweenTheLyons]

Wait, so this movie is supposed to take place in the 90s? Why didn't Disney just say it's a modern-day in-universe reboot and bookend it with Andy bringing his kid/s to see the movie? I guess that would have made too much sense 🙄

[@avivastudios2311]

😁 And cause of their ego. They were literally trying to replace the cartoon.

[@Alysa-Aiday]

@@avivastudios2311: What in the flying ** did you just tell me?!? Replace Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Legend Begins, nevermind the animated series.... _Did you all take stupid pills this morning??_

[@cibby6155]

Disney can't even make a good self-referential jab at their garbage live action remakes.

[@alicemadness999]

@@Alysa-Aiday pls for the love of everything good tale ur meds

[@amberchailland8620]

This, It would of worked SO much better as a 'reboot' movie in-verse. Him taking his kid to this movie and at the end he would look disappointment that it was definitely not what he expected/didn't like it, it could end with him talking to his kid asking how it is with the kid going 'its okay.. the the ship was super cool tho!' Andy smiling and going 'yeah, I think its pretty cool too. gives me an idea on what to getchya on your birthday' It would of given it SOMETHING!

[@coolbeans5911]

In 2018, a young man named Andy watched a film that was inspired by his favourite childhood series (which inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy he received as a birthday present in 1995). This live-action adaptation was a blatant soulless cashgrab. It was his least favourite movie experience he had ever had. _This is that movie._

[@hunterolaughlin]

You mean 2022?

[@Ball4184]

@@hunterolaughlin Not live-action either

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@Ball4184 I mean 2022 was the year Lightyear was released. So I was wondering why his parody comment of the opening lines of Lightyear didn’t start with “In 2022”.

[@launderine]

@@Ball4184 It would be "live-action" to an animated character, since they're animated in the same detail.

[@Alysa-Aiday]

In 2023, a girl named Alysa Aiday, revisited a KZbin video tearing apart the idiots trying to disregard the BLOSC cartoon. Despite her fury at their blatant, inexcusable love of money over customer satisfaction and continuity, she laughs herself silly when revisiting that - Technically this - video. _I am that girl_

[@meb4224]

If the writers wanted to "subvert expectations" with the Zurg twist, why didn't they just reveal Zurg to be Buzz's *mother?*

[@EllenMF12]

That would be very cool~ better yet, if being villain is in the family (I still remember Zurg in the Cartoon Movie said 'Mama Zurg called me that') Why not make the family bussiness to be that~? Buzz tried to escape it by joining the good side, but because he failed the mission over and over and the rangers discovered he was part of a villain family and tried to arrest him for breaking the rules and resisting arrest, they tried to arrest him again causing him to escape into the future, while trying to discover what he would do to get the mission completed after it was already failed the moment he went on that 'Cursed' planet and he was a fugitive... 'If I only had a way to go back and stop myself from screwing the mission by not checking that cursed planet!' And then he found an 'abandoned' high tech ship thanks to a message being detected into his ship was receiving a frequency which only he knew the code to decoded it, since he was in the future and his family was already dead or... Buzz's Mother ended becoming the Ship AI, since in the future, Buzz's family already must have transfered their bodies into robots since if Buzz was stuck into that planet 'for around 60 years' and because he had to escape his arrest, he jumped into the future for more years... So, she controlled some of the robots to keep a eye on her son, while Old Buzz was trying to get into the past before he went on that planet, but the only thing her son can't do is tell anyone, not even himself what he found on the future... While the 'Mother Ship' ended making another message to Buzz's father when he was still the alive with all of her memories copied and transfered to many different places to make sure no one could deleted her mind, thanks to that, she was able to get all the information to make her to jump back into the past before Buzz was able detect the planet, and take control of the AI causing the another timeline to be create... That timeline, Mother was able to convince herself and her husband into transfering their minds into AIs long before their bodies died, Zurg is still the principal villain, but no matter how much Buzz will try to hunt down Zurg to destroy him, he will never be able to completely destroy him,like a play where the good guy never can get rid of the main villain, after all, the moment Buzz tries, his mother will transfer more copies of his father's consciousness into different Zurg!Robots, each one harder than the later~

[@Dr.Oofers]

Remember, Disney/Pixar/most studios can’t write good female villains nowadays.

[@kagemaster3218]

They could have made zurg buzz's BROTHER

[@Liam_Phoenix]

@@EllenMF12 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Beautiful, amazing, 10/10, see that I'd watch, any of it is better than the disaster we got, you could write a fantastic Toy Story 4

[@JonathanGaeta]

I swear ever since The Last Jedi came out some movies have the overuse trope of “subverting expectations” and I hate it when movies or TV shows use this trope. The only movie in my opinion I think subverts expectations that’s done right is Avengers Infinity War. Movies that subverts expectations done wrong before The Last Jedi I can think of is Iron Man 3 and I’m sure you can think of other movies as well

[@durandlewis1382]

The fact that Turning Red, Soul and Luca got screwed over by being sent to Disney+, yet another Toy Story related film got the big screen treatment, even after the damage Toy Story 4 caused truly is baffling.

[@dvader518]

Toy Story 4 didn't cause any damage though.

[@brandonhaygood5286]

@@dvader518 It did to the franchise.

[@brandonhaygood5286]

Not financially but still

[@naturegnatiggy]

Finally someone else said it. It got to hit theatres because it’s a Toy Story movie

[@dvader518]

@@brandonhaygood5286 No it didn't.

[@shnick1990]

Funny thing is, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins also had Buzz insisting on working alone. Except it wasn't because he was being a prick, it's because he didn't want any fellow space rangers to get hurt or killed because of him after his partner (seemingly) dies on a mission at the start of the movie. One of many things that makes me question why Disney/Pixar are somehow ashamed of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and refuse to make it available on Disney+, yet this movie's supposed to be the true inspiration for the character...

[@LDtheBrachio]

Blsoc also had.... An Evil Buzz Lightyear from an alternate universe... An elderly Buzz traveling back in time to change the past (the matter being the death of Mira) Buzz even had a cat in his youth as the Christmas episode showed And even in the movie (SPOILERS FOR ADVENTURE BEGINS... GO WATCH IT PLEASE) .... ...A twist villain with Buzz's Partner Warp being the evil Agent Z who stole the Unimind and caused trouble throughout the movie.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

@@LDtheBrachio Man, Warp was a good villain.

[@LDtheBrachio]

@@Klonoahedgehog He was. Not only is he one of the best twist villains in overall Disney- but throughout the show, was basically Zuko before Zuko was made- well, if Disney didn't have their stupid 65 episodes rule and/or ended up renewing the show... Warp could have completed a redemption arc. But still, he is a bad-ace bad guy

[@TheReZisTLust]

They very first episode goes over how he does better as a team too

[@zumby101]

oh theyre not ashamed by it, they hate it! Because they didn't make it. yeah they really don't like it because they had barely any involvement in it and it was entirely a disney thing.

[@ladybugluv8158]

My husband and I watched the movie on Disney+, at the big plot twist I physically paused the movie and also yelled “I’m sorry, WHAT?!” My husband thought the movie was ok but I didn’t like it at all for literally all of the reasons you listed. During this video I kept saying, “That’s what I thought too!!” Lol. Love these videos, thank you!!

[@fionna_cool_girl]

I still stand by my opinion that Toy story should've ended at 3. This just helps to fuel it

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

The three movies are the only canon. No ifs, ands, or buts.

[@jerelminter]

4 was the last one, Lightyear isn't Toy Story 5 so it doesn't count.

[@fionna_cool_girl]

@@LordTylerBluGunderson ah I see you're a person of culture as well

[@fionna_cool_girl]

@@jerelminter I mean both Toy Story 4 and Lightyear were very unnecessary for the franchise. Also supposedly Lightyear is the movie Andy saw that made him want a Buzz Lightyear toy soooo technically it can be a prequel.

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@fionna_cool_girl Ah, yes! Another man of culture indeed!

[@commanderrexaur3659]

Dont forget Andy didn't go out have his mom buy it. His mom bought him that as a secret birthday gift as evidence by her pulling Buzz out of the closest and you can faintly hear Andy goes "WOW, thanks Mom!" During the green soldiers reconnaissance. So the notion of this being the movie where Andy watched it and subsequently buy a Buzz Lightyear action figure is wrong.

[@GamingMagic13]

Eh, I'm willing to let that go; I think it's plausible Andy could've immediately wanted a Buzz but they were sold out/his mom said no, which made the surprise present even more impactful. Plus, I imagine this movie probably would've been a summer release - as it was in our world - and we know the first Toy Story took place during summer since Rex says "I thought he was at summer camp" when talking about Sid, so I think the time span is close enough to where it could make sense.

[@commanderrexaur3659]

@@GamingMagic13 I'm going with the "sold out" only due to barbie line in TS2. But I think this brings a minor thing in TS1 where on top moving, a birthday for andy and taking care of Molly where Mom would be stressed, finds the time to find when the next batch of Buzz toys would come and be one of the early customers to get one. Idk just rambling here

[@jaimeruiz7837]

@@commanderrexaur3659 Andy's mom had an adventure like Arnold Swartaoidhnawodnj did when he was looking for a toy for his son.

[@Blox117]

@@GamingMagic13 damn and here i thought i liked you until you went full SJW right at the beginning

[@Blox117]

@@GamingMagic13 imagine using made up words like "homophobic" and getting triggered. way to really lower the quality of your critique. i cannot take someone seriously when they sound like a child

[@Graycata]

Deep down I was hoping the movie would ooze 90's campiness. Giving it should have been set as coming from that time. Something in line with the animated show

[@bobtheball5384]

I was hoping for some 90s aesthetic ngl, and or something similar to star wars

[@f-22raptorlandingzone30]

EXACTLY! It could've been campy with shiny plastic looking costumes and aged CGI. They could've even made it partially look like the original toy story to hammer it home that it's supposed to look old, and yet they didn't. For how much pandering nostalgia is in these days, they sure love doing it wrong

[@f-22raptorlandingzone30]

Not to mention movies like this often got animated shows like adventures of star command. Robocop got a Saturday morning cartoon and those movies show people getting chewed up by gunfire

[@domocracydestroyer8219]

Let’s all agree that if Lightyear was Andy’s favourite movie, he must have been bullied as a child. 🤣

[@Rowantary]

FR

[@kage1061]

...By Randal from Monster's Inc.😂

[@SixtyFourJr]

@@kage1061 the fact that there's a theroy about Randall being Andy's monster makes this a thousand times funnier

[@Tarts_34]

Stop please I’m dying😂🤣

[@hello_everyone740]

FRRR LMAO

[@null0286]

I love it when a YT channel reviews a bad piece of media, they put a out of context shot of a character looking stupid as the thumbnail

[@donnie1774]

I’ve seen it done with literally everything not just bad movies, I think it’s just a whole genre of thumbnail now

[@mosshivenetwork117]

You should see Critical Drinker's thumbnail for Jurassic World Dominion.

[@donnie1774]

@@mosshivenetwork117 nothing of that dude is worth seeing

[@johnynoway9127]

@@donnie1774 why? can you explain?

[@donnie1774]

@@johnynoway9127 him and his audience are more of those “ooh that darn woke media having people in my movies that aren’t white men” crowd. They think there’s some agenda with superhero movies and stuff now when really they just started hiring more races. The stories almost never revolve around race besides something like black panther, so it kinda just exposes them as racists and sexists.

[@WALTERRIFIC]

Speaking of things they stole, and I would be amazed if no one has pointed this out, the spherical ship is almost certainly a knock-off of the Trade Federation core ship from Star Wars: Attack of the Clones.

[@elder-woodsilverstein7716]

You have to be preeeeeety desperate if you want to rip off a star wars prequel.

[@superhyrulean]

I got one better. allow me to introduce you to a disney movie called "The black hole"...

[@thefatcow27TFC]

yeah and also the pistol buzz uses at the beginning of the movie is the pistol from the halo games

[@elder-woodsilverstein7716]

@@superhyrulean Oh yeah, there are also a lot of parallels. I actually watched that film. Underrated.

[@liamphibia]

Oh. My. God.

[@MayannHanna]

I really wanted this movie to be good, I genuinely liked the idea of it. But honestly, what annoyed me was getting called homophobic for criticizing it. My cousin is lesbian and she didn't care _at all_ about the couple, the movie just wasnt that good. She actually loved Encanto, because she identified with the main character. These people should stop treating LGBT people like their sexuality is all that defines their very existence, personality, and values.

[@standalonework5056]

I don’t blame you. They can be very obnoxious!

[@Graycata]

I was hoping for something in the spirit of the animated show, or something in the realm of galaxy quest "the show within that movie" but no.

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

They can't make organic LGBT characters because such people are only political props to them.

[@shay4261]

it does kinda annoy me that the only thing most people mention about the film is the lesbian couple as if gay people dont exist outside of "leftist media" so yea i agree with your statement lol

[@WobblesandBean]

Exactly. There's a story I particularly like that's a gender swapped Sherlock Holmes, but the exact same cold, haughty personality, and there's magic involved because of course there is. Watson is a trans man, he starts off as a woman but he explains he used magic to transition. It's just treated as normal. Literally he says "there was a mistake, I corrected it, let's go solve this case." It's not treated as a big deal, it doesn't define Watson's character, it's a tiny blip and then everyone moves on. THAT'S how you do LGBT representation. I'm so sick of media treating LGBT, POC, women, etc like their deviance from the cishet white male norm is the only trait that defines them.

[@rator1st]

The lesbian scene in of itself isn't the problem, it's the fact they tried to make a bigger deal out of it than it really is and tried to use it as a shield against legitimate criticism that's the problem.

[@mariopario8637]

Of course it's the problem. Parents don't want to take their kids to the movies to watch lezbians in a toy story movie like wtf kind of crack pipe idea is this??

[@trecsyuh729]

and it was removed for Chinese, Russian, Middle Eastern, etc. audiences.

[@middleman5484]

As a bi man I agree with u. I’m actually sick and tired of people not only using representation as a shield but also having it be shoved in everyone’s faces.

[@charliechurch5004]

​@@middleman5484yes and I don't appreciate him calling me homophobic..... That's stupid I will unsubscribe and never come back as he demanded

[@theeliteyouassassinatefora2684]

FR

[@QueenAleenaFan]

"There's a lesbian couple in it." For so little time that they could have very easily just deleted it from the movie: the worst kind of representation in existence. Add LGBT, accuse every critic of being some kind of phobe, and step final is -to profi- Oh shit, it bombed because it's a bad movie.

[@TheBrimmyRat]

What nice LGBT representation! Now let’s see the chinese version :)

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@lanagievski1540 Disney also forced a very weird and creepy scene in the new Disney+ series Baymax! Where he shops in a tampon store section and a guy is wearing a trans flag for no reason whatsoever. And of course Disney is making another open gay couple in Disney’s Strange World.🙄They’re not even trying 2 hide their LGBT/Anti-Conservative agenda.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

If this is the direction Pixar takes without John Lassester guiding them now for about 4 years now, a serious quality control needs to occur now.

[@WyvrnOnYT]

I think one thing that helped it bomb was the same sex kiss scene, regardless on what people think about the issue, parents are less likely to take their kids to see that. The world is different than the internet wants you to think.

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

Seems like just calling your critics phobes doesn't work anymore in 2022

[@oldfashionedboots2774]

I have to say, when I first saw Sox in the trailer, I think I physically sighed and thought “that it’s gonna be another one of those movies, isn’t it” Apparently it was lol

[@izaakdamon1979]

Same first trailer looked promising but then sox trailer came and that was it I could predict what the entire movie world become.

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

Once they spoiled everything in the third official trailer, that’s when I was like: *”I’m out.”*

[@jerelminter]

@@stephenmiller4554 So does every other character in this movie who exist to sell toys, it's literally a two hour toy commercial. 😂

[@ween9970]

kinda unpopular opinion but sox carried alot of the movie. he actually had the most use of the crew beside lightyear. but yeah, still probably a character to make money off of

[@bigpig2709]

@@ween9970 for plot convenience of course

[@PhillipOnTakos]

I have no idea why they even tried to market this movie as "the movie Andy saw" like that just adds needless confusion. Instead of just making a movie based on Buzz Lightyear but its the real deal. Even ignoring the cartoon they could easily make it work by just calling it a reboot. No they go with quite possibly the most complicated and nonsensical choice.

[@spikerobot4113]

One thing you forgot to mention is that in Buzz Lightyear of Star Command Buzz also didn't want the help of fellow cadets, but there was actually a damn good reason for that. His partner Warp Darkmatter died in an explosion caused by Emperor Zurg and he didn't want to go through that again. It seems in Lightyear they don't even bother giving an explanation for why he rejects other cadets help.

[@m6gnum684]

No, there's an explanation. In movie he says he doesnt want his cadets to be harmed.

[@spikerobot4113]

@@m6gnum684 Well tell that to GamingMagic13!

[@shardsoftime0952]

Blosc sucks too

[@spikerobot4113]

@@shardsoftime0952 Dude I totally disagree with you. I have found memories of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command the cartoon movie and even some episodes of the show

[@shardsoftime0952]

@@spikerobot4113 i also have a lot of nostalgia for it, but it contradicts a lot of things from the toy story movies For one the art style looks completaly different from the one from the movies Second zurg has a completaly different personality (wich is a shame since zurg barely apared in the franchise) The LGMs are part of the buzz franchise, even though ts1 extablished them as part of the pizza planet franchise wich is clearly separate from the buzz franchise As much as i like XR, the rest of buzz's team is realy anoying, like, Mira is the definition of a marry sue, she just enters star command and literaly surpasses buzz almost instantly, while booster is OK but he takes a little too much screen time I will say this though, while the twist is extremely obvious, agent z was an amazing villan, who felt like a threat i would argue he reminds me of how zurg was in ts2 but Younger and more arrogant, he knows buzz more than zurg wich makes him a huge threat, he was realy good... IN THE PILOT THAT IS, because for some reason, the show decided to just, not take him seriously at all Buzz here, while not as terrible as he was in toy story 4, realy doesn't demonstrate his inteligence from the OT, i would argue this show started the "buzz is stupid" argument, as he isn't taken seriously by his cadets, and like Lightyear, buzz barely used his helmet, it makes sense why he doesn't in ts2-3 but in blosc, there is no reason for him not to use it, like how he doesn't in lgm world or planet z, he only uses it on the intro They also don't use the "zurg is builting a weapon" plot buzz explained in ts1 And finaly, zurg isn't buzz's father A lot of the issues in Lightyear are in blosc and it makes me sad knowing that we never truly got the movie that made andy want the buzz Lightyear toy, as both contradict what was said in the toy story films

[@alisonwallace5619]

I do think the whole "Izzy is afraid of space" thing actually does make some sense. I don't think many people who have phobias need some dramatic compelling reason for their fears. Having a fear of heights or large open spaces is a common fear for people. Izzy probably enjoyed more of the fantasy of being an action-oriented space ranger than the actual space part. Besides, they shut down the Space Rangers while Buzz was in hyperspace, so becoming a Zap Patrol member was the closest to her dream (at the time) that she strived to achieve*. *Which would never have her confront her fear of space anyway since the Patrol only stays on the planet.

[@pastel-sunrise]

Well said.

[@alicemadness999]

Also, it could Just be an existencial thing

[@lasercraft32]

Yeah and lets be real... SPACE IS FREAKING SCARY! That's not an irrational phobia, that's a legitimate concern.

[@diddles3383]

53:57 not only that, but in the first film, Buzz was extremely willing to help out all the other toys learn various things, such as Rex with his roaring, despite this potentially slowing him down in him 'fixing' his ship. Buzz was more than happy to help out these complete strangers just so they could unlock some new skills.

[@danielpitti896]

Because That's what a true leader does; understand others and help them yo bright, the Buzz of this movie It's a cynical deconstruction ( destruction) of a character, even more vile was the director Serling us as this was the movie Andy enjoyed back in the 90s...!

[@ben66562]

Because that's the Buzz we see at the end of the movie. After he's gone through his whole arc and he's flying off with his new team in the new suits. I'm not defending the idea that this is the movie Andy watched or anything, I'm just saying this part of the video didn't really make sense

[@ben66562]

@@bigbadgammagnome because he's the buzz from the end of the movie who's gone through more character growth than the one we see at the beginning. so he handles a similar circumstance differently than he would have before. him crash landing wasn't the impetus for that change, it was the journey his character went on after the fact, that shapes him into the buzz we see in the Toy Story movies. He's more optimistic and open and he's learned how to be the leader figure we see in those movies. Just look at the new suit that he's wearing at the end and the ship he's flying. Everything that happens in Lightyear was past events in Buzz's mind. So asking why he's so different in this movie that's effectively his "origin story" that's meant to take place in the past (to him at least) is just silly.

[@tokuknight8098]

@@ben66562 PREACH

[@ben66562]

@@bigbadgammagnome also I listened to the rest of the video and he made a couple points I agree with. but man there was a LOT that I didn't. This is a 3 minute read. please bear with me because it was a long video... So my main problems are like, he's using Back to The Future rules for how time travel is supposed to work and I would've just thought after the mcu movies we would all be more accepting of the whole branching timelines idea. the universe doesn't have to explode into oblivion because of a time paradox? there's nothing wrong with how they depicted time travel in this movie any more so than how other movies do or how the mcu does. and then most of the video is just pointing out ways in which buzz acts out of character. and again, since this is effectively a prequel (in buzz's mind) this is basically just asking "why is this character acting different in a past movie?" and showing instances where buzz "acts like a moron?" 😕 "why didn't he cut the vine from the bottom, the rookie would've fallen the same distance either way" no he wouldn't? I am begging you... PLEASE go back to 57:25 at this point in the video and tell me if do you not see the *giant insect* which is latched onto him at the top? if he'd cut the vine from the bottom the rookie wouldn't fall, the vine would. and then the *giant insect* clearly latched onto him at the top would fly away with him? "why do they try to take his therapy cat from him right after he learned his best friend DIED" uhm because they don't really have much sympathy or respect for him anymore at this point in the movie? was that not clear? I thought the scene before this kinda illustrated that and this scene kinda helped really punctuate it? "why didn't buzz go up into the sky instead of straight into that mountain or anywhere else" idk to me it looked like he was wrestling with the controls of a ship that was malfunctioning/ hurtling towards the ground and couldn't quite get them to do what he wanted in that instance? am I wrong here? There were more like this, just like "Cinema Sins" level of critiques. Taking scenes out of context. Being overly pedantic about everything. "The Buzz Lightyear I know and love would've told them there was a timer on the stealth mode!" Okay, well I'm sure that would have been a fun scene. "the bugs would have flown over the fence!" Okay yeah or they would behave like bugs in real life and just be kinda dumb and never figure out that it zaps them idk, it's just stuff where you're like "yeah sure I guess" "why don't the bugs care about the cat that's floating through the air" because it isn't a cat. it's a piece of metal/plastic that's shaped like one. and also who cares, it's a cute visual gag in a family animated movie. "the vines used to be a threat, now they're played for laughs." yeah. they just adapted to it and learned to live with it idk you don't have to yell. "the splashback from that rocket launcher should have exploded everything" okay. is this really the type of film analysis you guys enjoy? last thing I wanna say "the reveal makes no sense" is just a matter of opinion. To me the reveal made perfect sense because there's no other character in the movie who's as singularly driven and dedicated as Buzz. You know, aside from Zurg... 👀 And what I really love about it is that it's not like the two have opposing goals which are closely paralleled or something, no they both want the *exact* same thing. And so did *you* until that reveal. It's only then that you realize "oh yeah.. that's what would have happened if Buzz had succeeded" you also see glimpses of him going down that path in the movie too and you guys are all talking about how unlikable he is so it's not that hard to picture that he could've been turned into a villain. He essentially was without realizing it. He's trying to unwrite these peoples' lives so he can go on fun space missions with his friend again and feel like he matters and doesn't care about anything else. I don't think it should be canon, but I don't think there's any other reveal that would have been as satisfying, surprising or thematically impactful to the story they were trying to tell as this one. Anyways that's my 3 and a half-ish minute response to an hour and a half-ish long video. I hope some of that made sense.

[@midnamoonlight9536]

You know what’s really sad about Zerg in this movie? In Toy Story 2, He had less than 2 minutes of screen time, and was so much better there than here. Honestly he was more like an obstacle than a main threat to the toys and yet he was so enjoyable. So what happened here?

[@TailsFan]

Too bad he didn't actually turn out to be his father, which makes zero sense for the toy in the movie to say if he isn't really his dad, since he was running on programmed information.

[@artbytesia]

The writers made stupid decisions, that's what.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

The only real issue with "that scene" involving the kiss is it basically got all the media attention before release. Be it for or against, it dominated the marketing. All for a scene that honestly meant nothing in the movie. It was a blink and you miss it moment and yet every one pushed it as the most important fact of the movie.

[@Slender_Man_186]

And of course if you criticize the movie in any way, *obviously* you’re just homophobic. **proceeds to cut the kiss from the Chinese release**

[@mariopario8637]

Blink of an eye or not it still puts weird ideas into kids minds. If it's soooo minuscule of a scene, then why even put it in? You can't claim that it's both insignificant and a significant lbqt moment at the same time. Which one is it?

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

@@mariopario8637 Never said it was an important LBT moment, just that every one pushed it as one. And I agree it really shouldn't of been in the movie over all but I think the marketing push of the scene hurt it more than anything else. I mean it's funny how rare it is for any one to kiss on screen in a Disney movie. When it did happen it used to be a major plot point, like waking up Sleeping Beauty or the like.

[@Golems_victory]

@@JustaGuy_Gaming Lol if a simple market of a kissing scene hurt the films performance then that makes society look really stupid and bad lol. Because straight kisses can be marketed with no problem but oh, no a same sex kiss.....yeah some people are still stupid. Good thing most people are progressive.

[@Golems_victory]

Good. The media is correct pushing an awesome mila second kiss scene. XD YOU CONSERVATIVES ARE DUMB LOL. A HARMLESS KISS SCENE THAT SHOWS DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION DONE WELL IN A HARMLESS MANNER IS A GOOD THING. THE FILM WASNT MARKETED WELL AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE KISS, LOL IDOTS

[@FigliadiSephiroth]

I always felt like Socks was always designed as a character just to have a strong merch seller honestly.

[@Nic_2751]

There’s one problem, Zurg isn’t Buzz’s father as confirmed by Star Command where he emotionally manipulated him JUST to get the upper hand by telling him that to sucker punch him

[@Yomasi]

Yet another reason why star command is better lmao It's so on brand for that Zurg to do exactly that

[@Nic_2751]

@@Yomasi lmao true

[@ching-jungyang62]

Yeah, that got the laugh out of me. It made me wonder what kind of family issues Buzz is having, because he clearly never met his father.

[@shardsoftime0952]

Wich is a plot hole for blosc

[@darinlunderman8063]

Honestly, the lesbian kiss was probably put in purely for publicity. Whenever a story is awful and is unable to keep the audience's attention, the writer(s) usually tends to throw something in to get people interested so as to make up for the lack of excitement to that point; and so, a gay couple was tossed into the mix because Pixar believes that will stir up some discussion. However, gay characters introduced purely for the sake of having gay characters has become a bit of a tired trope at this point so the "wow!" factor really wasn't nearly as impactful as the writers might've hoped. If anything, attempting to use minorities as a significant narrative draw(as well as a failed shield against criticism) would only backfire, making people less interested in seeing the film, hence the relatively weak box office that the film received. Pixar really implemented strategy poorly with this one from a marketing perspective.

[@silverscorpio24]

I heard that Alisha was originally supposed to be Buzz's girlfriend/wife, but they changed her to being a lesbian

[@meow-rr1gd]

@@silverscorpio24 wrong, they did it exactly as to not ship her and buzz because they wanted their dynamic to be purely platonic. disney wanted to cut alisha and kiko's scenes out but pixar employees fought for it to stay. this movie was supposedly created in a perfect world where homophobia racism or anything of the type never existed. there is a gay couple in a movie from the 80's because in their world homophobia was never an issue.

[@silverscorpio24]

@@meow-rr1gd Well then it's not really *representative* of that target audience's supposed "life experiences", is it?

[@meow-rr1gd]

@@silverscorpio24 well, no, i doubt it was ever meant to be, in universe at least. she's just a female character who so happens to have a wife.

[@silverscorpio24]

@@meow-rr1gd You *doubt?* Eleven days and you never looked it up yourself? And if her character is what matters rather than her love life than why was it such a big deal for the marketing.

[@jpsaverino]

The biggest tissue issue for me, plot-wise, was one you didn’t cover. The whole story revolves around a space-faring people (who got to this strange planet in cryogenic sleep and presumably some sort of “crystalic power”) Yet Buzz, a space ranger, has NO idea that reaching light speed would catapult him forward in time. No idea at all. They don’t think to mention it to him at all over the entire year it takes them to prepare for the test and are startled to find that he’s startled by the time in time. Both parties are dumbfounded that he didn’t know and have to revert to whiteboard doodles to explain it to him. WTF…

[@BeehiveBoy]

My thing is, is they treat time dilation like it's an inevitability every time you travel at hyper speed. So why then does no one talk about that being a risk being a space ranger in general?? Does anyone who decides to be a space ranger just commit to giving up their entire lives? Why would you even be a space ranger at that point? By the time you're done with a mission using hyper speed, anyone you'd know on earth would be well dead. Any scientists you'd report your findings to would also be long dead. So...what's the point here? Why is buzz so hardwound to "get everyone home" when any "home" they could ever return to probably wouldn't remember or welcome them anyway?? Like is hyper speed reserved for special missions? If so, why does it require hyper speed to get OFF the planet? Did they use hyper speed to GET there?? I'm so condused

[@johnny2x47]

You know it's bad when Star command (which Disney tries to forget exist) did Buzz Lightyear more justice than this movie did and that came out 20 years ago

[@Enriqueguiones]

Lightyear should have been inspired by old 50s pulps, like Dan Dare, Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Instead of that, they tried to ape interstellar and the failed miserably. The old "Star Command" cartoon wasn't perfect but it handled the concept WAY better than this thing. Also, SPOILER making Zurg and Buzz the same person because of time travel shenanigans is the WORST IDEA EVER. Zurg is supposed to be an alien evil emperor. In this movie he's not alien, he's not evil and he's not an emperor. He's not even a character, but an empty suit. I'm sad and extremely dissapointed.

[@Graycata]

I was really hoping for that. Something in the spirit of the animated series.

[@projectx7453]

That does sounds disappointing

[@osmanyousif7849]

Even worst, he didn't kill Buzz's father, because HE IS BUZZ'S FATHER!!!!!

[@diobrando5896]

I never thought Buzz Lightyear would pull more from the Halo franchise then the Halo TV show.

[@TedEhioghae]

than*

[@inanimatesum4945]

Its just heartbreaking to see some of the people who made good media when you were a kid be completely washed up when they get this old and butcher everything they ever made because their egos are so inflated.

[@フランクランドン]

Not only that but to keep their egos inflated they switch up the way they make movies to match up with where the industry is. Case in point, where the ideals of the industry are, these people follow like sheep.

[@Brezz-22]

These aren't the same people that made early pixar, these new people want to write their own stories and won't let their lack of writing talent get in the way.

[@cybergames3436]

Might have been better to make a time jump to Andy as an adult, introducing his kids or going to watch a reboot of buzz lightyear. Maybe soft reboot toy story.

[@Graycata]

You did it, you fixed the concept of their in-universe movie

[@BlazeHeartPanther]

Andy would come out of that movie being like "Look how they massacred my boy" XD

[@plantlady42069]

@@BlazeHeartPanther I would love if that happened, then they'd have to acknowledge their remakes and reboots are massacres of their source material. xD

[@cutesyprincess14]

Andy doesn't need kids. Not everyone has kids you know.

[@cybergames3436]

@@cutesyprincess14 You have heard of something going full circle right? Like the case of TS3 where Andy gives his toys to bonnie? Or like, what the adults you have grown up with have tried to do. In my case my grandad making me a fan of transformers. Your older siblings retaining their old toys for you to later use? Those cases. Andy does not require kids, but its on theme for toy story, and directly plays of Star wars + star trek, things Buzz took heavy inspiration from, and something the kids of the parents who are fans of those franchises have probably been introduced to and possibly inherited being fans of those franchises.

[@damastertony3986]

I already thought this movie was aggressively mediocre but from this review you had just pointed out even more logic flaws and it made me realize how the twist is nonsensical. It even made me realize on how undeveloped the emotional core of this movie is. Thanks! I can’t wait for your other analytical reviews.

[@ben66562]

he made a couple points I agree with. but man there was a LOT that I didn't. This is a 3 minute read. please bear with me because it was a long video... So my main problems are like, he's using Back to The Future rules for how time travel is supposed to work and I would've just thought after the mcu movies we would all be more accepting of the whole branching timelines idea. the universe doesn't have to explode into oblivion because of a time paradox? there's nothing wrong with how they depicted time travel in this movie any more so than how other movies do or how the mcu does. and then most of the video is just pointing out ways in which buzz acts out of character. and since this movie is effectively marketed as a prequel and origin story (in buzz's mind at least) then this is basically just asking "why is this character acting different in a past movie?" 😡 and showing instances where buzz "acts like a moron?" "why didn't he cut the vine from the bottom, the rookie would've fallen the same distance either way" no he wouldn't? I am begging you... PLEASE go back to 57:25 at this point in the video and tell me if do you not see the *giant insect* which is latched onto him at the top? if he'd cut the vine from the bottom the rookie wouldn't fall, the vine would. and then the *giant insect* clearly latched onto him at the top would fly away with him? "why do they try to take his therapy cat from him right after he learned his best friend DIED" uhm because they don't really have much sympathy or respect for him anymore at this point in the movie? was that not clear? I thought the scene before this kinda illustrated that and this scene kinda helped really punctuate it? "why didn't buzz go up into the sky instead of straight into that mountain or anywhere else" idk to me it looked like he was wrestling with the controls of a ship that was malfunctioning/ hurtling towards the ground and couldn't quite get them to do what he wanted in that instance? am I wrong here? There were more like this, just like "Cinema Sins" level of critiques. Taking scenes out of context. Being overly pedantic about everything. "The Buzz Lightyear I know and love would've told them there was a timer on the stealth mode!" Okay, well I'm sure that would have been a fun scene. "the bugs would have flown over the fence!" Okay yeah or they would behave like bugs in real life and just be kinda dumb and never figure out that it zaps them idk, it's just stuff where you're like "yeah sure I guess" "why don't the bugs care about the cat that's floating through the air" because it isn't a cat. it's a piece of metal/plastic that's shaped like one. and also who cares, it's a cute visual gag in a family animated movie. "the vines used to be a threat, now they're played for laughs." yeah. they just adapted to it and learned to live with it idk you don't have to yell. "the splashback from that rocket launcher should have exploded everything" okay. is this really the type of film analysis you guys enjoy? last thing I wanna say the reveal being nonsensical is just a matter of opinion. To me the reveal made perfect sense because there's no other character in the movie who's as singularly driven and dedicated as Buzz. You know, aside from Zurg... 👀 And what I really love about it is that it's not like the two have opposing goals which are closely paralleled or something, no they both want the *exact* same thing. And so did *you* until that reveal. It's only then that you realize "oh yeah.. that's what would have happened if Buzz had succeeded" you also see glimpses of him going down that path in the movie too and you guys are all talking about how unlikable he is so it's not that hard to picture that he could've been turned into a villain. He essentially was without realizing it. He's trying to unwrite these peoples' lives so he can go on fun space missions with his friend again and feel like he matters and doesn't care about anything else. I don't think it should be canon, but I don't think there's any other reveal that would have been as satisfying, surprising or thematically impactful to the story they were trying to tell as this one. Anyways that's my 3 and a half-ish minute response to an hour and a half-ish long video. I was just hoping more people or the channel himself could see this because some points were valid, most of them felt like nonsense..?

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@ben66562 May i add, that people don't seem to realize, old Buzz IS the real Buzz, or OG Buzz? And Young Buzz is the Buzz created because Old Buzz traveled back in time and created an alternate timline (yes Back To the Future kinda) Originaly Buzz should have been received by the militars when landing, this is what caused him to flee to the space, to end up traveling back into the future. And since he was ALONE all of this time, he never had a chance to grow... Young Buzz is the alternate timeline version, who didn't had to flee BECAUSE THE MILITARS WERE TRAPPED in the city this time around! And he didn't had to flee back to the space, and got to spend time with the grand daughter, and went tru these experiences that made him have an emotional growth. And Old Buzz isn't even evil realy... With his technology, he could have caused so much harm. But instead, he just wanted to get the crystal his young self had... The robots you see didn't pay too much attention to the rest of the guys once they had Buzz. When they were chasing the vehicle. i dont remember them shooting at the people on the big open door in the back? They were just trying to catch up to them to teleport them. If anything Old Buzz was just stuck on his mission. Thinking it was THE RIGHT thing to do... i mean... he saw his good friend die of old age, while crying she missed the space missions etc... And again, he never had the chance to grow emotionaly, because he was pretty much all alone all the time. If anything, you could say he wanted to recover his friends and his life. He himself said it: Noone will suffer for someone that never existed... because nothing of these would have happened. However, i am not defending the movie. This is perhaps. the only thing i thought it was clever in the whole movie.. How he got outside of hyperspace in the most perfect moment to find an abandoned super advanced alien sheep? Where he could just get in and use everything and all the robots would obey him just because? This is now beyond convenient... is stupid... a mega plot hole... How and When he got the core from the main spaceship and translated it into the Zurg ship to use it to time travel? And yes the way they try to explain he could travel to the past because he can travel to the future is the worst part... he didnt travel to the future... he went through hyperspace which dilated his time and thus it would seem as he was in hyperspace a few hours but years would have past for everybody else.. thats not time travel... and they even explained that!

[@ben66562]

@@josejuanandrade4439 Yes you may. good stuff! thanks for adding it. yeah the morality of it is tricky. First I'd have to go back and watch to see how much harm Zurg actually causes. Because you'd think if he knew that this reality was temporary anyways, then he really wouldn't hold back or care who he hurt in it in the process. But idk I'll need to watch again. And it's tricky because I feel like, if somebody told me they were going to unwrite my existence, I'd kind of feel threatened by that in the immediate moment i think. Even if I wouldn't know. I'd still probably want to stop them if there was a chance to. But if I fail, well, yeah I wasn't "killed". I just never was to begin with. And yeah, him finding the spaceship was dumb and lazy to the point that you may as well call it a plot hole. And it's like... he didn't have to find it on like his first jump. Just have it be a progression. From all the different planets and times he's hopped to, have him build up this ship and this suit and this empire over time. But no, he just finds it immediately fully assembled and waiting for him and then for the next 50 years he's testing out the time jumps. I liked the movie a lot overall though

[@combatking0]

Writers: "What if we write the most bland, nonsensical sci-fi time travel plot we can think of?" Executive: "OK, but we'll need to put a popular name to it so it'll sell tickets." Writers: "Buzz Lightyear?" Executive: "You got it, but we'll need some form of insurance." Writers: "We could add some empty virtue signalling." Executive: "Yes, we guilt-trip people into going to see it by including a minority character. But isn't Buzz a straight white male?" Writers: "We had planned for a romance plot, but we could replace the love interest with an LGBTQIA+ female person of color to balance Buzz out." Executive: "OK, let me roll the LGBTQIA+ dice... it's L." Writers: "Awesome, we get free publicity from all the controversy." Executive: "It can't possibly fail to make a billion dollars!"

[@dippy_1999]

You just spoke the absolute truth, something that everyone tries to ignore.

[@WobblesandBean]

Yuuuuuup. It's no surprise they went with a lesbian couple, the safest possible option while still proclaiming they're like, SO totally LGBT friendly! 🙄 No way they'd ever do a gay male couple, or a trans character.

[@sarahnour5561]

I'm still mad about what this movie did to Alisha. She was a potentially interesting character and had a close friendship with Buzz, so I could easily imagine a fun buddy comedy with the two of them. Instead she gets killed off 22 minutes into the film. Real progressive 😑

[@eavyeavy2864]

It get entitled people like you to watch it. It get traction alright

[@combatking0]

@@eavyeavy2864 Yes, traction from people like me who _don't_ have a Di$ney+ account. Really it get's traction from people who didn't pay attention in English lessons and make fools of themselves in KZbin comment sections with their insufferably bad grammar.

[@annana6098]

I've heard that someone at Disney actually actively hated the Buzz Lightyear animated series, and I'm sure they'd eager try to overwrite it with something else. It confuses me then that they might have borrowed this bit out of context, that he didn't want a rookie partner, and was extremely against it--because he'd just had a partner die on him. He ended up having three rookie partners and loving them all by the end of the movie/pilot and using their strengths and weaknesses. This new version of him starts out hating recruits and goes on hating them because they annoy him? Ew.

[@DarnHooligan]

They could've easily avoided the dumb continuity error with the show by saying that this is some mature reboot of the show, and was Andy's first exposure to Buzz. After buying the toy, he got into the show which came before the movie.

[@eatatjoes6751]

Ding, exactly.

[@doubleaabattery7562]

Or it could just be a reboot he sees as an adult and we don't do nostalgia baiting

[@angelabryant9766]

I'm so glad you mentioned the graphics thing, I was telling my mom that complaint just the other day! I understand you wanna make it look good, but sometimes the graphics have to take an L to get the feel you want for a movie. Like, if you're trying to make a movie that feels similar to a B-movie from the 50's for example, you CAN'T have it look stunning, no matter how much you want it to, cause that totally contradicts the feeling you want.

[@dvader518]

What if the Toy Story universe had better CGI technology in the '90s than we did?

[@TheReZisTLust]

Look at Sharknado. They took a big hit for graphics and they still made a killing.

[@ShannonRevello]

Or how woodys roundup is black and white

[@chassiebazz92]

@@dvader518 wouldn't work, in toy story 2 woody was a toy in the 50s, we see clips of his show in TV and it looks very 50s in our world. No boosted technology

[@michelebergamo19]

Imagine if they made the animated movie by modeling real life props of the 80s and using them like a star wars movie but animated version. That would have been so silly and fun

[@FreakinSweet1987]

I don't hate that they put in a lesbian couple kissing. I just hate that they did it in an in-universe kids film that's meant to have released in the early 90's. Pixar is usually all about accuracy, and if we know one thing about the 90's it's that same-sex relationships weren't even allowed to be alluded to, let alone shown on screen in kids media. It would have just made more sense and seemed more genuine to just make Lightyear a standalone film in the same universe but not tie them together through Andy. At least then it would feel less like an executive decision of "gay is *in* right now!"

[@thatundergroundflavorrareo3194]

Exactly what I was thinking. Not only is it completely pointless to the overall plot of the movie, but it’s downright inaccurate. In the time this movie would’ve been released in-universe, there is no way that scene would’ve been allowed in a kids movie back then.

[@princesspikachu3915]

The 90’s DIC dub of Sailor Moon where the lesbian couple was made “cousins”. The 1990’s were fun.

[@princesspikachu3915]

Turning Red got it’s early 2000’s right.

[@thatundergroundflavorrareo3194]

@@princesspikachu3915 Ah yes, I remember reading about the Sailor Moon dub censorship.

[@NebLleb]

@@princesspikachu3915 No it didn't.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Lightyear’s box office and merchandising failure recontextualizes the aisle of Buzz toys in TS2 in a somewhat sadder light. It was originally meant as commentary on Thinkway Toys underproducing the original Buzz toys (due to underestimating the potential success of Toy Story), but now it reads almost as if the Buzz toys were shelfwarming because of how Lightyear the film did in-universe.

[@johntheawsome117]

One thing to note, those were “NEW” Buzz figures with the Utility Belt. Never the less, releasing the same figure with a new accessory is industry standard practice and a cheap attempt to drive up sales

[@jacechretin4597]

The issue with the gay marriage and kiss was not that it happened, it’s the fact that it happened in a film Andy saw in 1995! That shit is barely flying now, I’m hella positive it wouldn’t have flown back then, especially in a film meant for children!

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

Exactly. Also, the kiss had no reason or correlation whatsoever to exist in the movie because that kiss alone basically defied Hawthornes character, and that’s horrid.

[@jacechretin4597]

@@LordTylerBluGunderson Right?! Right?! It didn’t further or add to the story making it completely and utterly pointless!!

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@jacechretin4597 Exactly. Disney is just utter trash nowadays.

[@cometleijon964]

@@LordTylerBluGunderson its just a kiss chill

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@cometleijon964 Yeah, a kiss that’s morally wrong.

[@silcoego2859]

I thought the whole "the robots are dumb so they can only say Zurg" thing was alluding to the fact that Zurg himself is the higher entity that the robots listen too and that they are only listening to Future Buzz because he's in control of the Zurg "suit" - not because they can't say Buzz like FB thinks. Like I thought the end credit scene was the actual suit waking up and FB being dead but damn I guess not lmao

[@invadernav3422]

I've been discussing it with my friend, but I think Zurg should have been Burnside. It explains why he's so insistent they stop trying to leave the planet and should just stay where they are, he's super dismissive of Hawthorne's position before him, discarding her door name plaque without hesitance in front of who was her closest friend, why he seems to immediately cancel the therapy companion program when this is the time Buzz would need it most. And why he's desperate to not even let Buzz try for one more test flight. There's changes I'd suggest to have it make more sense or more seamless - he's more passive aggressive to Buzz, insisting he's canceling their future test flights for Buzz's own good because he cares, referring to him as 'son' to try and manufacture a bond (also my way of referencing the 'I am your father' line best I could), trying to convince Buzz to just come to him with his problems to try and put himself in the position of Hawthorne, which is also why he'd want to take Sox away. Not to mention, if Buzz tried to tell him Sox figured out the formula, and Burnside dismissed it, only to then order his men to immediately retrieve it, it is a further explanation of why of all times, they take it away then. I thought it was strange to see how ineffective the robots were when attacking the shield. They stood in place and just shot at one spot. It could have been a manufactured threat by Burnside since Buzz took the long trip to keep everyone under the shield and under his control, until suddenly Buzz is back and Burnside has a problem. Obviously there's more plot points to smooth out and figure out the hows and whys for certain actions, but it was my thought for Zurg.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

That would've actually made a lot more sense, and it would've made Burnside/Zurg significantly more threatening in that he could play both personas seamlessly and without remorse.

[@ben66562]

I feel like that's the red herring they want you to think. Me and my friend both had that realization at the same time, when we saw how the soldiers looked after all this time had passed. but I feel like it was obvious for a reason, because they want you to be shocked when it isn't connected to him.

[@standalonework5056]

Well Burnside is black. And if they had buzz fight a black guy in a Zurg mech, well I’ll let you fill in the blanks.

[@ben66562]

I think you guys need to picture the movie you're asking for. Burnside wasn't an interesting or consequential character at all. It's a neat twist, but if that's how the movie played out I feel like everyone here would just be complaining about how Zurg was just a generic military bad guy with no connection at all to Buzz. To me the reveal made perfect sense because there's no other character in the movie who's as singularly driven and dedicated as Buzz. You know, aside from Zurg.... who is ruthless in this movie. And what I really love about it is that it's not like the two have opposing goals which are closely paralleled or something, no they both want the *exact* same thing. And so did *you* until that reveal. It's only then that you realize "oh yeah.. that's what would have happened if Buzz had succeeded" you also see glimpses of him going down that path in the movie too so it's not hard to believe that he could've turned into a villain. He essentially was without realizing it. He's trying to unwrite these peoples' lives so he can go on fun space missions with his friend again and feel like he matters. So I don't think there's any other reveal that would have been as satisfying, surprising or thematically impactful as this one.

[@MrM0nKey79]

Hawthorne has been dead for more than a year at that point. Most of the people at the base have never even know anything else than that planet, they were born there, it's the only home they ever knew. For them lazer shield was a better use of resources than trying to get home to a place they never knew.

[@TiaJonesiful]

I really loved Sox and he was legitimately what I enjoyed most in the movie. That being said, I COMPLETELY agree that he was a ridiculous plot device super multitool created only to sell toys. My enjoyment of him is that I (like many people) am a sucker for adorable cats but it did not cloud my judgement to the brokenness of his character

[@goosegas2087]

He kinda reminds me of the Deadpan Loli anime trope. I don't think it's bad or anything, but it's not like it's anything new.

[@sweetdreams1028]

Couldn’t agree more

[@artbytesia]

He sounds like Olaf all over again. Another character created solely to appeal to kids and sell toys.

[@davidbraccini4770]

Wow you were lighting fast in releasing this video! By the way the reason why many people complain about the lesbian couple isn’t because they are homophobic, but because many movies that are badly written (Like The Rise of Skywalker) add a small scene of diversity to superficially appeal to the LGBTQ+ community, thus giving movie diverse rappresentation bad fame, while on the other hand they censor the same scene in countries like Cina. By the way I am still waiting for the Security Breach video!

[@johnynoway9127]

Black Panther movie in a nutshell (only with blacks)

[@damienearl1310]

@@johnynoway9127 ...not really, the story of Black Panther exists beyond the movie

[@johnynoway9127]

@@damienearl1310 at the end lol

[@damienearl1310]

@@bigbadgammagnome That...is pretty messed up I agree that they really don't seem to give a shit about the LGBT community and movement, but...I mean, shouldn't we be asking them to be *better* ?

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@bigbadgammagnome No you're completely wrong it's not alt right men complaining about the lesbian scene, and heterosexuality isn't forced on people. Also calling people bigots because they have a difference of opinion isn't right in any way, that's a way to silence people not have a conversation you people seriously worry me.

[@apollosgadfly]

The only problem I had with the inclusion of the lesbian relationship was that it wasn’t realistic for what was supposed to be a 90’s-era kids movie. Albeit it was a tiny part of the movie and it honestly didn’t matter much in the long run, but it’s a continuity mistake that shouldn’t be overlooked. Edit: The movie was supposedly released in the Toy Story universe in 1995 during a time when LGBT wasn’t obviously present in kids shows or movies.

[@azurimira]

Exactly what I am thinking

[@jwroot]

Meanwhile Chris Evens calls people who didn't like the same-sex kiss scene for what ever reason: "idiots"... in a freaking interview.

[@Xofflow_]

That’s what I thought when I saw it and the first thing my sister pointed out after leaving the theatre.

[@eddiepalmer9543]

@@jwroot it's propaganda lesbians exist 🙄 OK and?

[@AdaTheWatcher]

I really hate Disney for how Thier "representation" often makes things worse for LGBTQ people

[@ladyangelsongbird]

I must say, the Toy Story clips match up perfectly in sync with your voice that it’s absolutely hilarious. Practically perfect and it enhances the experience!

[@ha7nm]

I agree! It's very satisfying to watch at times.

[@Viszzarooni]

I was talking to someone about Toy Story and lightyear and they told me “yeah it would’ve been great if it didn’t have two girls kiss each other” and I told him that was the dumbest reason I’ve ever heard

[@niktri8312]

Question: Where are the Little Green Men? Shouldn't they also be featured in a Buzz Lightyear origin story?

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Yeah, that's actually a good point.

[@GabrielsChannel15]

They got eaten by the claw

[@mangle6850]

Maybe Pixar is saving them for a sequel? Assuming that lightyear gets a sequel.

[@GabrielsChannel15]

@@mangle6850 e

[@Slender_Man_186]

I thought the Little Green Men were from Pizza Planet and had nothing to do with Buzz Lightyear’s brand?

[@gnammyhamster9554]

A lesbian kiss in a 1970s movie is pretty unrealistic tho

[@Nic_2751]

This is the same universe with sentient toys, and hopefully more accepting people unlike our awful discriminatory filled world

[@Fridgemasters]

it’s fiction

[@bobtheball5384]

Ngl it's a cartoon

[@AdaTheWatcher]

That's honestly a small nitpick, my main issue with it is that it was just added as a criticism shield

[@Correct-correctself]

@@Nic_2751 living toys are more normal than you freaks

[@strohhuttv8848]

I love those long reviews ripping apart extremely bad story writing.

[@passthroughgamer1014]

Agreed

[@BurBurGerHamCotCotCybercotleta]

Agreed

[@simon9352]

Agreed 3

[@panwasacz2733]

I agree Gaming Magic 13 has such amazing critical skills

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

Agreed 4

[@Goremize]

I love how this starts with a disclaimer using the scene people use to defend this movie by saying we only don't like it because we are an -ist not because the movie itself is terrible.

[@lasercraft32]

You can always tell how bad a movie is when you say "What? That makes no sense" when they try to subvert expectations instead of "Oh! In hindsight that was so obvious... I should have known!"

[@Alysa-Aiday]

"I can take *_any 3 objects_* and make them explode" How the *_God Damn Hell_* do you expect to take, say... A cup of hot chocolate, a chocolate stuffed marshmallow, and a container of whip cream, and cause *_AN EXPLOSION?!?!?!?_* That makes so little sense, Seto Kaiba from frigging Yu-Gi-Oh is looking at all the stuff he disbelieves - *_Considering magic is the key to most if not all of it_* - and saying: "Pfft! Simple nursery school stuff"

[@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710]

I’m glad you were pretty unapologetic with this review. Most of the Lightyear reviews I’ve seen don’t really critique too much about the story and how well it’s connected to Toy Story and it’s canon.

[@reagansido5823]

The retconning they've done just to excuse the blatant disregard for the source material is awful. They really wanted to market this as THE movie that basically kicked off Toy Story, and by golly they weren't gonna let anything stop them. not even pre-established lore that contradicts that!

[@elizabethhuntley6056]

You made a pretty good point about buzz not acting anything like his toy. You could argue that Stinky pete acts differently in his toy form but that's only because he spent his entire life in his box.

[@cruximee]

Okay 2 years late but lotzo also supports this. His personality used to be warm and caring like advertised but that changed radically after being replaced. Same with stinky Pete, like you said perhaps being in the box shaped his cruel personality. Buzz light year came fresh out of the box with the different personality.

[@dvader518]

I really only had two issues with the film: 1. The film looks far too good to have come out in 1995 in the Toy Story universe. 2. No Hollywood studio would ever have allowed a prominent gay couple in a movie in the '90s. Both issues can be solved thusly: The Toy Story universe was far more advanced in CGI technology and far more progressive than our world was in the '90s.

[@zeroattentiongaming820]

The Buzz game in the second movie certainly looked more graphically advanced than console games of its time in our world so that's plausible.

[@dvader518]

@@zeroattentiongaming820 Somewhat unrelated but why does Buzz freeze up in front of humans in Toy Story 1 when he doesn't realize that he's a toy until later in the film?

[@horadetodososlegos]

As far as I know, inside of the toy story universe, the lightyear movie is a live action

[@horadetodososlegos]

@@dvader518 i've seen 2 theories: 1: toys at first can't control their freezing, they learn to control it after a while 2: buzz was trying to copy the "culture" of the strange "planet" he arrived, that being andy's room

[@dvader518]

@@horadetodososlegos But why is the toy based on the end of movie armor?

[@aroach4689]

I know a lot of people think the "it looks too good for an old movie" argument is dumb, but I think that very fact about really captures the essence of the situation. It looks stunningly beautiful! just like every other big box generic modern sci-fi film. I would honestly bet that if you showed screenshots from this movie with no characters in frame people would guess what modern film it's from at random. It feels like anything in this film could just as easily come from a new Star Wars or guardians of the galaxy. They couldn't dare sacrifice that shiny marketable ultra HD corporate Disney animation style for even just a pinch more immersion or creativity and that's by design. It was never for even a second intended to have any sort of artistic merit from the beginning. It's just a safe shiny new -toy- movie to make Disney their next billion. Thats probably why people seem to love socks so much. He's only part of the movie that's even a little bit creative or interesting.

[@cordyceps182]

The only issue I have with the lesbian kiss is that it's come to the point that I feel like it was only included as a shield against criticism, despite it being a minor part of the story. Two lesbians having a kid is also a bit wonky, but you can assume that she was either adopted or they did some weird gene experimentation stuff.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Not a shield, but A WEAPON. Considering what this month is, and how there was news about some Republicans running for office, yeah I don't think this was a coincidence. Especially considering how the creators were thinking about removing the scene.

[@catgirl-jj8no]

It's also hilarious to believe that a film with a gay kiss was wildly popular enough to spawn a massive toy line when it was "released" in the 90's No way parents let that slide back then

[@cordyceps182]

@@catgirl-jj8no Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting that this was supposed to be a 90s film. It honestly feels like a reboot of a popular movie.

[@Us3r739]

The US has become way too soft.

[@halfhawk718]

@@Us3r739 And don't forget that they lose for the Vietnamese and the Afghans.

[@UltimateSuperX]

Another problem is that in the first Toy Story, Buzz stated that his enemy is called The Evil Emperor Zurg. Zurg was never once stated or shown to be an Emperor in this movie. Another issue is that if the Buzz the Toy was base on this movie then why are their missions are different? Toy Buzz talked about a weapon that Zurg made that could destroy a whole planet and he info of the weapons only weakness, which doesn't line up with the plot of this movie if Toy Buzz was based on Lightyear

[@artbytesia]

It's almost like everyone behind this movie had all the previous movies wiped from their memory.

[@korickarmstrong3468]

I feel like the issue people have with the lesbian kiss is not with the actual thing, though I am sure SOME people in NA might but who cares about them, I feel the problem people have with it is twofold: First and foremost is that this comes after leaked video of Disney execs literally gloating about shoehorning their gay agenda into as much as they could, which taints any representation that comes as "Its not in because its a worthwile addition to the story as any romantic elements should be, its here because someone literally has an agenda." Secondly is that its the upteemth "First openly gay thing" is Disney stuff. Its getting old to hear about this stuff, especially when its the highlight of content covering their media which implies there is not enough of substance or quality to mention. its grating. Its not homophobia, people are sick and tired of being preached at.

[@eatatjoes6751]

The issue I have with the kiss isn't that it exists - I'm bisexual, it's that up until they stumbled upon the *ANDY'S FAVORITE MOVIE!* nostalgia train that I predicted it and the resulting outrage was going to be the focal point of the marketing until the director remembered he was writing for adult kids and lazily tossed in *ANDY* as a substitute for the audience.

[@elirichard8331]

I don't remember any openly gay characters in a Disney movie, all of them have been blink and you'll miss it background characters.

[@korickarmstrong3468]

@@elirichard8331 To be fair, so is this one really. As far as I am aware its a single scene with her partner/wife. Which is okay w/e who cares except the fucking crazies. and is about as much as other characters got. Prime in my mind is the family in the background in Frozen. Speaking of that family, I feel like the over hype they got in merely appearing has planted the seed of "put gay in get big money" into the heads of Disney

[@Whocares158]

Why is it when a straight couple kiss no one gives a fuck but when a gay couple kiss everyone loses their fucking minds?!

[@tylercoon1791]

@@elirichard8331 pretty sure Lefool, or whatever his name was, was supposed to be gay for Gaston in the live action version of Beauty And The Beast

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

1:09:10- Thank you, GamingMagic13! It's about time someone said it. The whole 'playing with audience expectation' thing downright sucks, because it hinges on massively leading up to one thing and veering off into another thing. Funny how the Disney twist villain who started the trend of twist villains, Turbo, actually WASN'T a twist villain. He was just a straight-up villain with a surprise backstory element that was teased and then revealed. And it made SENSE. The most satisfying reveals are ones that make sense in hindsight. ...I also now want to hear you discuss Bendy and Security Breach, because no doubt Bendy was handicapped when they decided to change their initial plans of Bendy being Joey to whatever tf actually happened, and likely SB was screwed by some kind of story compromise when the bossman said his favorite character had to return even if it detracted from the supposed new villain. I think the worst part of all this is, in hindsight, all of this could've been fixed so easily. Make Zurg Buzz's father, establish that Lightyear is a reboot of Buzz Lightyear in a post-credit scene that shows Andy taking his kid to the movies. Like, why not? They mention him anyways. Why NOT have one of those faux-feels moments at the end with Andy introducing a new generation to a character of his childhood? Edit: Okay, just got to the future projects sections. XD

[@creed8712]

You know as much as the kiss of two lesbians isn’t a problem it is still a valid enough criticism since it’s another point to the utterly awful contextualization of the film. This movie is flat out not the movie Andy saw in 1995 despite what it says. This movie is barely a buzz lightyear movie and all of that seemed to be an excuse to make a boring sci-fi movie that has a marketable brand. And as I said as much as the kiss may be alright it’s also totally and completely anachronistic to what the movie was said to be along with many other elements that are so incredibly modern that there’s no way it isn’t the most important film of the universe

[@SoggySlopster]

Exactly.

[@TheSpacePlaceYT]

Tbh this is being normalized a little too much imo. At this point people are putting in gay characters for the sake of putting in gay characters to support something that has nothing to do with the narrative.

[@Golems_victory]

@@TheSpacePlaceYT lol that’s what a nazi would say. Lol there is no normalizing things too much lol. I bet you don’t say that about straight kisses. Lol dumbo.

[@Channeleven2345789]

I was expecting the twist to be that Zurg was Alisha. But damn that's far worse what they did.

[@jeremyallen5974]

It honestly feels like the dumb shit writers were looking for an excuse to throw a young and old Chris Evans at each other and farted out a hack fuck plot about time travel to make it happen

[@joelpierce1453]

The gay thing can still be included on the list of "Reasons this movie couldn't have been made 30 years ago."

[@Blox117]

reason it shouldnt have been made now

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@Blox117 Exactly. It’s just completely wrong even if you somehow agree with the agenda. Forcing the casual audience to agree with your political/sexual agenda including the kids you’re pandering to is just outright disgusting and evil.

[@Blox117]

@@LordTylerBluGunderson i say that because also, straightness isnt pushed into anyone's face. if it is, it's because 99%+ of people are normal Lol imagine if Titanic was a movie with two hairy fat dudes.

[@aeon87]

@@LordTylerBluGunderson Thank you! This is what I've been feeling about it! I wish they would stop rubbing this agenda in our faces. The inverse is just as bad. I just want to enjoy a show or movie without any pandering bullshit.

[@LordTylerBluGunderson]

@@aeon87 Exactly. I’m a conservative, but I honestly don’t want any of political opinions be shoved into a movie that doesn’t require them to tell a good story. Why can’t left leaning movie writers do the exact same and just leave their political ideologies/beliefs out of movie entertainment?!

[@ladypool1404]

I was dissapointed to see humans in Start command. Where were the aliens and mutants? They were a tons of them in the show plus cool robots. In the movie there was only humans. That was lame :S The designs of the aliens are so creatives and pretty in the show. It's sad to not saw them in a movie about Space.

[@silverscorpio24]

I can't wait for Disney/Pixar's "Round Up", where we see our favorite cowboy turned into a cowardly simp who fumbles around the Wild West, we get a "surprise" reveal that Jessie is bisexual, and Stinky Pete is actually an ex-Space Ranger who traveled too far back in time.

[@princesspikachu3915]

Would Bulleye be redesigned to sell toys or will we get another character as a “Sox” clone?

[@silverscorpio24]

@@princesspikachu3915 We will get an extended scene of Baby Bullseye or Bullseye Jr.

[@notrealnamenotatall2476]

...Okay, but Stinky Pete turning out to be old Buzz Lightyear might just be crazy enough to work, but only if it's exceptionally campy.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

As Bi as an m&m trying to pass off as a skittle. Color it any way you want hollywood it all comes out gay in the end.

[@MsMoonfan4ever]

it's funny how the director insists that he 'didn't think at all' about Buzz Lightyear of Star Command when this story has like... SO many similar elements to the tv movie in question -Buzz loses his best friend and has emotions about it, the tv movie starts with the supposed death of his partner and best friend Warp Darkmatter (whom, despite having not a lot of screentime with you still get an easy read on and can enjoy his dynamic with Buzz) -Buzz isn't keen on new recruits, due to the trauma of his best friend presumably dying in a fiery explosion Buzz refuses to take another partner out of fear with Zurg constantly gunning for him whoever he'd be partnered with would end up dead like Warp -Buzz struggles with the idea that a certain tragedy is his fault and goes to huge extents to try and solve it, again, refusing to take a partner in part because he clearly blames himself for Warp's 'death' -there's an armored villain that reveals themself to be a familiar face, Warp was actually working for Zurg the whole time and reveals that he hadn't died when he shows he's the mysterious 'Agent Z' There's a fun moment where Buzz, refusing to admit that his friend was never REALLY his friend starts going through different ways Warp would EVER be in Zurg's side (its played for comedy at first, but when Warp says directly he'd been on Zurg's side since the academy you can really feel the sadness in Buzz over it) -Buzz's team after some buildup is a determined new cadet with a huge legacy on her shoulders(Mira Nova) A loveable robot (XR) and a guy that's rolled around like a wrecking ball at least once (Booster) and it was still done better because they practically go out of their way to show Buzz being constantly kind and respectful to people, and even if because it's a goofy show Buzz can be kind of a goof he rarely feels like an idiot, more just stubborn or skeptical, and easy to get lost in his own head (which actually IS in line with his toy story characterization)

[@Alysa-Aiday]

I'd rather watch Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Legend Begins, *ON LOOP, OVER THE ENTIRE MONTH OF DECEMBER IN CELEBRATION OF CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S,* than have to fake laugh at - Or even watch at all - the garbage dumpster fire that is Lightyear!!!

[@dannybonsai7102]

I'll just say as a gay person, its not the lesbian characters that offend me, its the reason they were included that offends me, and many many other gay people. For years we have wanted genuine representation, realistic, and unapologetic, and for decades we constantly assured everybody that being gay is not a political stance. And then Disney finally decides to "allow" that representation only when they can use it to make some cheap shot at their political adversaries in the USA, while still censoring it in other countries. It comes only after years of being a purse puppy to many corporations, treating us like cash cows and shields against criticism while we are left with no substantive gains, if anything our movement is being undermined because these corporations keep poking the bear so to speak. Your opening remark is too black and white, don't let Disney use minorities as a shield, it harms us.

[@GRasputin91]

Yeah, Disney's adding token gay characters so they can look good but they dont really care about gays at all. All they care about is money and looking like they care about current issues

[@keviren6443]

GamingMagic13 probably only thought of all those assholes who went mental over the kiss while making that statement and forgot the very nature of big corporations.

[@716_ハディくん]

maybe you can try opening your heart toward women ?

[@soaringstars314]

They refused to censor it. It was the other countries that wanted to censor it. Not them. Do you want Disney to never include any minority by chance?

[@keviren6443]

@@716_ハディくん what?

[@phelomangcu11]

So let me get this straight: - they brake their own continuity. - their movie is completely unjustified in its own existence. - they steal certain aspects from Halo, mind you Hollywood hates video games. - they include a basic fake lesbian Relationship in their, I don't hate progressivism, but I do hate Fake progressivism when I know they'll cut it out for the Chinese mark.

[@Kingbeat1]

Hollywood hates video game I never knew is that the reason live action video game movies are usually bad

[@JayRedGear]

I definitely agree with the last part. If there is progressive stuff in the movie that feels natural and not forced down your throat, I'm all for it. But it's very clear that Disney is fake with their talk about progressivism when they simp for China. If they really were for it, they wouldn't even care about trying to appease China. People need to stop giving Disney brownie parts for doing the bare minimum.

[@isavenewspapers8890]

They literally didn’t though

[@thefunnestaccount5632]

@@isavenewspapers8890 Literally didn’t what?

[@isavenewspapers8890]

@@thefunnestaccount5632 This movie was never released in China…

[@MyDamnToys]

I love your channel bro. As a massive Buzz & Toy Story fan, you preach things ive been saying !

[@jacobreveles7222]

No annoying soundtrack behind this video, just pure commentary. The energy here got me engaged the entire time, I've been GLUED to your video!

[@SaiScribbles]

Okay to be fair to Chris Evans he does seem like he's really trying to do a Tim Allen impression and it's pretty good. I expected Buzz it just sound completely different.

[@cutesyprincess14]

I liked him as Buzz. He is an okay voice actor for a real life version of Buzz.

[@standalonework5056]

Amen brother. WHO THE FUCK LEAVES THEIR GIGANTIC WARSHIP IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN SPACE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!? That is the absolute equivalent of stealing someone’s car in the middle of the desert! I’m surprised not one of these post credits scenes have the actual Zurg showing up and being like, “ hey! Who stole my ship? “

[@TailsFan]

That would actually be better than what we got.

[@TheSuperCasual2914]

The one thing that gets me so upset is that Chris Evans called critics idiots. Thank you Schafrillas.

[@Tonithealtwing]

I know this comment is from a year ago but I think you’re on the wrong channel…

[@sabrinab3337]

I tried watching this movie a couple weeks ago and I couldn’t get past the first 15 minutes. I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE the way they make buzz so meta awkward. That was it, it took me out of the experience and I was so dissatisfied. All of your points are spot on and totally agree! 🎉

[@SoloJona]

Think about hoy excited fans get when movies like ‘Into the Spiderverse’ squeeze in as many references as possible, from the 60’s cartoon, to the live-action films, to real life comics artists, to classic comics and general knowledge. Fan would have gone crazy if the movie payed any kind of respect to the Star Command show. I loved that show! I grew up with that show! Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was the best, and I felt betrayed that the director didn’t give two seconds of attention to what used to be THE canonical Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story

[@barbararab6390]

Couldnt they at least made the movie seem like its from the 90s?? Cliches and tropes would work bc it was supposed to be a movie set in the 90s. This whole thing feels too modern

[@kinabalucat]

If the kid saw this movie, he wouldn't want a buzz lightyear. He probably want the robot cat

[@crystallotus3422]

It gets worse. Apparently according to the directors commentary and deleted scenes, the original plan WAS to make Zurg Buzz’s father. And the movie probably would have been better for it. I like Lightyear just fine but I understand it’s a very, very bad movie (but I’ve noticed I have a thing for “bad” movies as of late. As in I genuinely like them. [I’m talking things like Wish and the Trolls movies.] Lightyear is not on that level though. I don’t like it quite as much)

[@doctorroofus]

I want to add a few points here that I think shouldn't be overlooked: For one, they didn't take advantage that it was an animated movie and that always frustrates me. The movements were so stiff and unnatural it was hard for me to ignore. I was so disappointed that they didn't take advantage that it's a space movie too. An example for all of this is in the beginning when Buzz picks up the rookie and runs towards the ship. The person felt so weightless and like he was made of plastic. At least have buzz stagger and struggle to hold another person while the ground was unstable, that would make for really good tension. And it would make the space scenes all that more weightless and terrifying (Spoilers for the next part) Then there's the future buzz situation. The entire story of buzz going to the far distant future to a perfectly fine space ship with no person or alien around. That honestly sounds like a much better story than what we have. What happened to those people? Are we going to actually see more aliens? Why was this ship abandoned if it had such high technology and this many robots? Why was the ship in such good shape with no evidence of struggle anywhere? That sounds like an interesting story! But no, we didn't get that and my questions to that only shows that the writers didn't think about that

[@autumn-vl5ez]

Just wanted to say as someone who was into dgs/tgaa long before it was localized, I always smile when you use a clip from it. It appeals to me specifically. On another note I'm lesbian and I can't stand the "gay representation" they insist is in the movie because 1) everyone knows Disney is going to remove it for Chinese audiences, so what is even the point, 2) it obviously is more about Disney covering their ass politically because of the Floridian "Don't Say Gay" bill they shoved their money into (which, I am also Floridian, so isn't that just funny, Disney) and 3) if this movie is supposed to be from the 70s-90s, they shouldn't even be in the movie to begin with, because anti-gay sentiment was so strong back then that this would have caused a huge uproar in the public, especially because Buzz later became a children's toy. People today still think gay people are predators inherently because of our sexual orientation-how do you think it was like back then, all sunshine and rainbows? I'm sick of Pixar and Disney shitting on Toy Story like this. It's one of the few Disney franchises that I remotely give a shit about anymore, and they keep fucking with it like they're playing Operation with plot elements and characters, and the more shit they pull out, the more money lines their pockets. Ugh.

[@Funkmicz_]

I was extremely pissed when they revealed Zurg to be an older Buzz, and overall weren’t faithful to the original story. Personally I didn’t mind the references that much. But. They’re out of place when it comes to this movie. If they stayed faithful to the orginal story I feel it could’ve totally worked. I would’ve loved if they went with the concept of Andy watching this movie as a kid and having it have all those old ridiculous tropes but do it in an interesting and fun way that also recognizes it’s a trope while telling a compelling story. Zurg should’ve been a threat to the universe, and something space command would need to avoid. An actual villain. And when they crash land they’re taken over by him, which would explain the robots as they would be security. The hyperspace plot was really unnecessary overall and I think they could’ve handled it so much better. Sorry if this is a bit nonsensical I’m not the best with writing (I have dyslexia)

[@belleatwirewoodproductions7560]

I love your editing style, it’s really funny to use cartoon character clips to express how you feel😂 good job!

[@aleksandram.]

They could have solved the problem of the audience expecting the plot twist so easily. Why don't show Zurg being Buzz's father early on in the movie and make us wait for Buzz to discover it? Then the climax still would be engaging, because we would be curious about Buzz's reaction.

[@rayshiotile9487]

or flip it on it's head have buzz assume Zurg is his father but the twist is he isn't his father he killed his father

[@Graycata]

I would have busted out laughing if they did commit to that. That would have been "jumping the shark" for me

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

Zurg: "No, I _killed_ your father!" Buzz: an overdramatic "Noooooooo!" It would still be a needless retcon, but at least it would be an actual joke.

[@fawfulfan]

29:56 in fairness, "pulse propulsion" is a concept many engineers think is possible in theory. In fact, there have been ideas to get spacecraft up to speed by detonating nuclear weapons behind them. No one's ever done it before, but it's an idea this film lifted from theoretical physics and not science fiction.

[@Nitzah]

I feel like they could’ve just pulled a “Joker” and said that they wanted to make an inspired stand alone movie. If not it would’ve been nice if they threw in more 80s camp to sell the timeframe it was canonically released (allegedly) but that’s only if they actually were sticking to that idea…

[@kylefrank638]

Gotta love the trend of sequels/remakes keeping all the nostalgic lines, iconography, etc. but then have someone in-universe talk about how those things are laughable or not actually of worth. It's double-dipping, keeping the uber-fans smiling but also patting themselves on the back with how self-aware they are.

[@MrSuperstargamer]

You really need to put more comparisons to "Star Command: The Adventure Begins". Even if it is essentially the prologue to the tv series, it works as a self-contained story on itself that keeps the character of Buzz consistent with his toy counterpart. That being said, in this movie after losing his partner Warp Darkmatter, Buzz gets so devastated by that loss that he decides to fly solo. The Buzz Lightyear in this version is not a pedantic asshole that constantly mocks other rookies because he deems them as "useful as autopilot", he actually is so heartbroken by the loss of what he considered his best friend that he wouldn't stand seeing someone else in star command suffer the same fate; then, throughout the whole story he learns to appreciate the value of his team and during what seems like his final moments, he sends a message to them finally admitting he always needed help. There's so much you can pull out from "Star Command: TAB" that can put "Lightyear" to ridicule... more than how much of a joke it already is in itself. I mean, it's far more consistent in representing what the actual Buzz Lightyear toy does in terms of utilities, you also have the addition of the Little Green Men in this movie as well and Zurg actually being a character and constant main threat throughout the movie; albeit a very much one-dimensional villain that literally is made with EVIL, it's still miles better to hear him constantly yell at his incompetent subordinates than to see a huskless and soulless robot that resembles nothing to the villain Zurg has been portrayed as in previous iterations. Speaking of which, doesn't this movie also breaks any sort of consistency when it comes to Zurg's characterization? I mean, we have the goddamn videogame shown at the intro of Toy Story 2 where Buzz faces off against the "Evil Emperor Zurg" as a final boss and Zurg actually acts like his real self by constantly belittling Buzz at any given moment and also using that super-powerful gun (which by the way it's also used in "Star Command"). But then we have "Lightyear" telling us that Zurg here is actually a robot that was controlled by a Future Buzz? I mean apart from how stupid this is, shouldn't this already break the continuity of Toy Story even more? What I mean is that in terms of marketing, if this was the actual "first" iteration of Buzz Lightyear as its creators claim, why in hell would the "Evil Emperor Zurg" be portrayed as anything more than a menacing, emotionless robot that chases around Buzz? And why would he be seen as "Evil" when it's Future Buzz that canonically controls the goddamn thing?

[@SeaStarTea]

Good points. I really wish they had left well enough alone because I can’t look at my favorite franchise the same anymore. :/

[@BurBurGerHamCotCotCybercotleta]

... But as I was enjoying simple times laughing at the idiocy this film birthed The sky suddenly colored grey The wind got stronger The lighting flashed across the sky The careless mood quickly changed into tense And as I was preparing myself for the worst... I heard this: 1:03:31

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

0:23-0:34 you're right but you you're Wrong in some areas as well got to remember that Disney doesn't really care about gay people and only wants to virtue signal and use them as a trojan horse to deflect any & all criticism. There can be a good discussion I will have with anybody willing regarding if these gay characters in movies are actually good or just pandering, I honestly thought this scene in this movie was eye rolling and very on the nose it's like these companies don't care about making good characters & just want to pander to the alphabet community which is actually hurting their community in the long run as well.

[@toulee8051]

Disney is learning a very hard lesson - the hard way

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@toulee8051 Karma is a bitch

[@osmanyousif7849]

Yeah, there's no question that they were trying to run on their own agenda. And then they're gonna try to use the excuse, that the people who are "hating" or just trying to find an excuse to assert their straight/toxic/male/white privilege.

[@RajShekhar-jy2zi]

Its capitalism baby .

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

@@osmanyousif7849 I've ran into people like that they are ridiculous.

[@Epicman1252]

I hate this movie because it wasn't Buzz kissing a man.

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

“Girls? I WANNA SEE MEN!”

[@FrameRater]

How did you make this so fast? Props.

[@GamingMagic13]

Passion and a general disregard for personal well-being.

[@superbodoque7860]

@@GamingMagic13 lmao

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Well, simply put, he doesn't have a million other stuff going on in his life.

[@NALBilge]

Great video, I'm really liking the video essays. For me this movie is more of a light hearted journey. I tried not to look into it too much just though it was fun, but I do really like these in depth documentary reviews. Anyways just want to say thank you for continuing to put a smile over my face for the last couple of years.

[@UdoADHD]

Making fun of buzz is just an ongoing running joke for the franchise. I like it, just as long as they don’t make his character actually dim witted.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Nowadays, it feels like so overkill.

[@RedKnight26]

Screw anyone criticizing this movie over a kiss. It's a fundamentally Boring film with terrible writing and logic. It's unimaginative and stale. I don't care if two people of the same sex kiss, there's nothing wrong with that. Focusing on the plot there are alot of freaking flaws

[@ScorePN]

Dude I'm soo glad your Toy Story 4 Analysis videos all got the big views they highly deserved! I binged watched them multiple times in hopes of making the damn algorithm notice them. But if anyone deserves the viewership traffic for those vastly in-depth reviews, its YOU! And looking at this vid's views, I'm glad it too is working out as it should (^_^)

[@sebastianchavez1225]

At least " 'Lightyear' is the equivalent of a live-action adaptation or reboot of the 'Buzz Lightyear of Star Command' " is a plausible ex, thought that does not invalidate the plotholes of the movie at all.

[@GamingMagic13]

It would’ve been a plausible explanation had the director not explicitly said it was supposed to have been released in the 70s or 80s, and had the movie not opened with the explicit statement that Andy’s Buzz toy is from _this_ movie.

[@sebastianchavez1225]

@@GamingMagic13 Welp, the director sure shot himself on the foot on that one Also hello, just subbed yesterday bc i really enjoyed the few vids i've watched from your channel so far

[@nethergollum4219]

before you go and snap at people for hating the gay kiss, let's be fair that it could be because this is a Disney movie trying to be woke instead of legitimate representation

[@Val-tr6ve]

That was for homophobic people, it’s not the same as wanting better representation

[@nethergollum4219]

@@Val-tr6ve but even IF there is someone who will complain about it just for the sake of homophobia, there is still the fact that Disney only had that lesbian kiss in to seem woke as Disney has put in very small scenes that are woke only to cut them out so the movie can be distributed to places like China or Russia, heck I think Disney even tried deleting the Lesbian kiss from the movie cause they couldn't get rid of it for distributation to other countries but brought it back in once they were called out on it, just felt the need to mention my point so there could be genuine reasons for why people hate the lesbian kiss on the basis that Disney's not actually trying to be genuine with this and not just if someone was homophobic or not

[@joaquinm9148]

Say what you want about this movie, but you can’t deny that the song they played in the trailer (David Bowie’s “Starman”) is a banger.

[@shardsoftime0952]

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