Like A Dragon Ishin! & The 10 Years of Hype

[@livenishikireaction]

i know where kiryu spent those 10 years of hype

[@Beefaroni69]

Hope it didn't make him anything

[@EliTheGleason]

But what did it make him?

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@EliTheGleason The Dragon of Incarceration

[@EliTheGleason]

@@SaberRexZealot or A fucking 🐈

[@wednesdaygeckok.7899]

He spent 10 years trying to bring that shit

[@Gouda992]

Can’t wait for the yakuza 3 retrospective in 2027

[@arielginter289]

I wait for Ragdoll Ga Gotoku 6 in 20XX than.

[@RealKaiserRyu]

Can’t wait for the Ishin retrospective in 2067. I’ll actually live that long.

[@akiyomer]

that is only next year!!!

[@協420]

@@akiyomer mcdonalds akiyama meal

[@AntonioRedgrave]

For me, the best way I could describe my thoughts on Ishin is that this is the only LAD game (so far) that I bought at full price, but I wish I got it on sale. Whereas I would have been more than satisfied if I bought the rest of the LAD catalogue at full price.

[@thyorimori3269]

SAME! got it as a birthday gift and had these rude remarks like "its sluggish, should it update? Am I low leveled?" Respectfully, I always knew in my heart I did it that way because i want Ryu Ga to keep taking risks and making games that wouldn't sell well atleast have decent sales (let's be real, The fact every game but lost paradise are on PC shows they dont do well with trying to mix things up... sad since I'd love a Shenmue game in the style of Yakuza, almost as a homage) Still a great game, besides the hype it would never make up for and the pricing, I still feel its a great game, as yakuza 3 is with all its difficulties Just... wanted to feel about this as I did with ghost of tsushima, as superficial as that sounds(that was supposed to be my Time sinker till they made ishin)

[@the1tacoirvin]

Honestly same, I wanted to get the steel book that came with it but after playing it I wish I had waited, especially since last month best buy was doing ishin with steel book for 30 bucks

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

​@@thyorimori3269their risk was to remake a game that didn't need remaking with godawful new combat

[@cartoonvideos5]

Glad I got it for $40

[@gokudoni]

Absolutely beautiful work. Thank you for speaking on this particular game, cause most of the community is so excited for Gaiden and LAD 8, that Ishin was kind of forgotten about very quickly after the launch. It absolutely deserves more of a presence on this platform.

[@NyomiHendon]

Very true, on a side note, I'm still working through 100% for Ishin

[@gokudoni]

@@NyomiHendon Best of luck to you! It's an infuriating journey at times, but you can do it!

[@samuel.jpg.1080p]

it definitely deserves more recognition. Hope next years to come, more people will come back on Ishin

[@aidancorgi5608]

Ive seen wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more lad 8 and gaiden memes than ishin already lol

[@Bluemeanie588]

When the world needed him the most he returned with a surprise no one asked for but will gladly take

[@reddish776]

13:15 THANK YOU!!!! as someone who has seen the "popular" opinions on these games so much one consistent thing I notice is fans downplaying the older games and using 0 as a comparison of the quality standard of the series. I think it's not only unfair to those games because they released before 0, but also because each Yakuza game doesn't set out to do the exact same thing, and the same goes for 0. I like 0 (far from my favorite tho) but it is rather irritating seeing the unfair comparisons being drawn constantly.

[@hjblacdes61]

sometimes it feels like its the only game theyve played :/

[@sickrandy2946]

@@hjblacdes61typically they only play 0, kiwami 1 & 2 and 7. Doing that ofc they'd think 0 is the only great game in the series bc Kiwami games are kinda ass & 7 is so different.

[@hjblacdes61]

@@sickrandy2946 i've heard people say before that 0 is the only good one and i wanna tiger drop em

[@sickrandy2946]

@@hjblacdes61 i've also seen people say 0 is the only one with good music and it's like - come the fuck on be fr lmao

[@hjblacdes61]

@@sickrandy2946 Yakuza 4 & 6 just must not exist?

[@HunterForHire422]

As time has gone on and I've replayed the series, i really miss the old upgrade trees. They're so quick and satisfying. I like almost all of the games still but the earlier ones feel like they don't try to waste my time like the kiwami games and 6 (even if 6 didn't bother me too much compared to the others)

[@opts1112]

After having played Ishin, i think that it was just OK, probably below average in the series tier list, oddly enough its one of the more directly politically charged in the franchise, which was kind of neat as a change of pace from the modern setting.

[@Jose-se9pu]

I agree, and now I understand why they hesitate so much to release this game in the west; while the story is good, there are A LOT of stuff people outside Japan just wont get.

[@hey_its_me_ur_brother]

I still can't believe that they released this like they did. I guess RGG went like: "Yakuza 4 and 5 are ancient. Lets do that but with a different coat of paint in 2023. Oh well its for the west anyway" The story and the setting are great but the shitty mechanics really waste all of the good things about it.

[@mullaoslo]

​@@Jose-se9puidk.. I agree when I was just trying to get through the story it was a bit of a slog. But now that I can just... Enjoy the game it's definitely one I come back to a lot just to get some different gameplay.. It still has that Y5/Y0 era charm AND jank

[@MadDog95]

@@Jose-se9pu It's not really a "Japanese" thing to get I dunno the story is just paced weirdly and feels pretty sluggish, and I feel like their execution of such an interesting period in history was done a little poorly at least story wise

[@shlokwaghela9560]

​@@MadDog95 Va11halla fan that likes Yakuza? Rare.

[@xvct2661]

Man i really i wish the guys working on the ps3 translation finish it i want to play the original version so bad

[@robbiealixsantos]

The glossary is amazing. My brain turns off during open world games and having the glossary easily available during cutscenes helped keep me engaged

[@loloshua]

I love this game, one of my hyperfixations is the bakumatsu era

[@GunGun-cf3ss]

First time I was genuinely disappointed by a Yakuza game. It wasn't bad, the changes of the remake just vastly overshadowed the positives for me. Add to that my frustration with todays "remake" philosophy, where perfectly fine games get remade just out of fear that they have somehow become outdated. I find this extra infuriating in this case since Yakuza's big success in the west with Zero, literally proved a great game can and will succeed despite having "unimpressive graphics". Hell, I'd argue the simple artstyle of Yakuza 5, Ishin and 0 holds up extremely well. All I wanted was to experience the game in it's original form, instead I feel like I played some weird falsified version. But I guess having a shiny new coat of paint (which really wasn't that shiny) is somehow more important than delivering a version of the game that is true to it's original vision. Edit: 12:47 I actually emulated the original because I just wanted to have the comparison and the combat was so much better imo, the remake just felt flat, no feedback, no combo potential.

[@andresaguilera115]

I agree with most of the things you said. However I will say that this game, in my opinion at least, is justified in being a remake. The original game isn't in english and it's a game that fans have wanted translated in the west for a VERY long time, so instead of releasing a port or remaster with english subtitles why WOULDN'T they create it from the ground up with better graphics (even though I do prefer the art-style in 0 and 5) and frame-rate.

[@ghostspartan81]

​@@andresaguilera115except it's hardly created from the ground up and they just ported all the older assets into unreal engine 4 which somehow looks worse at times. They should've just ported it. This just seemed like a test run to check if unreal engine 4 was worth using.

[@GunGun-cf3ss]

@@andresaguilera115 simple, because they really didn't need to. They have a fully functional game already which just needed to be localized and ported. So why did they opt to remake it when they remedied none of the originals issues or improved it in any significant way? The only reason I can think of is that they wanted to see if unreal engine would be a viable option for them in the future, but this was not the game to test that on. Treating a beloved game, which fans have been wanting to play for a decade, as an experiment was a very stupid move imo.

[@KingKrouch]

​@@ghostspartan81 Not to mention the other issues with Unreal Engine plaguing it, especially on PC. The previous Yakuza games just worked with PlayStation controllers and ultrawide displays on PC, without any mods or third-party tweaks/drivers/software needed, and they're pretty competent ports (Setting aside some hardware utilization and performance issues in Kiwami 2, Yakuza 6, and Yakuza 7) and yet the Ishin Remake on PC had pillarboxes + FOV cropping, and had a problem where PlayStation controller prompts would only appear if you plug a PS4 controller into your PC over USB (Which means SteamInput has to be disabled, and means no Bluetooth either). I had to use DualSenseX (A third-party driver for Windows) to simulate my Bluetooth connected DualSense controller as being a DualShock 4 plugged in over USB in order for it to even work, and those playing on Proton are far less fortunate. There was a mod to fix these two issues, but by the time that Sega finally fixed the controller issue, it was already weeks after release, and the other one never really got addressed. Not to mention the shader compilation and asset streaming stutter which never truly got fully fixed. The only games that use the engine that I've seen that had a nearly perfect launch are Gears 5, HiFi Rush, and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2. I'd rather play a Unity game at this point, because at least those can be modded and fixed more easily, the tools for fixing Unreal Engine games is many light years behind. Honestly, anything with Unreal Engine plastered in the marketing sets off red flags for me, because the vast majority of every bad PC release in the past five to ten years was using Unreal Engine by a team with very little experience using it outside of Blueprints. Not to mention how homogenized games using the look, because Epic made it incredibly difficult to have custom shaders. HiFi Rush and the Arc System Works games are the exception to that (The ladder which skipped a lot of rendering features in the engine in favor of forward shading, which does more easily allow flexibility). People love to defend the engine saying "It's up to the developers to fix these things", but at the same time, Epic's advertised the engine as being straight-forward to use with easy multi-platform support, and they haven't made any efforts to fix most of these issues (outside of the shader stuttering as of Unreal Engine 5.1), and these defenders can't have it both ways. Almost as insufferable as the people that defend Epic's storefront being slow and barebones. Anyone defending that engine or storefront in 2023 doesn't give a single shit about UX (the end-user experience).

[@1chibanKasuga]

​@andresaguilera115 they made a remake so that they can sell the ps4 version in japan at an high price, if they just localised it they wouldn't have got money from Japanese players

[@mynaemajef]

10:58 truly an elite trooper lineup

[@esotericephemera]

I've played the original; i'm not a huge crunchy detailed gamer analyst or anything, but something about the original combat just felt different and more fun. I don't know if its rose-tinted glasses, but I genuinely had a blast with the OG ishin gameplay but playing this new version didn't feel near as satisfying. I think most of the rest of your critiques apply to the original though.

[@stormysoup1083]

No you're not looking at it through rose tinted glasses, the remake actually does play different in several substantial ways that make it a worse game, for one sword and brawler have been nerfed severely while wild dancer has barely been touched, leading to wild dancer being the only viable style in most situations, wallbounds and back combos are pretty much gone which makes opening up large enemies that block a lot, much more tedious, most bosses and even regular enemies no longer really react to hitstun at all which forces you to play much more defensively and hurts player expression, as well added a ton of stupid elemental desperation moves that don't fit the game, Ishin and Ishin Kiwami are not the same game

[@MilkJugA_]

I will appreciate ishin mostly for its story and setting. Both were done very well and it felt immersive throughout the entire game.

[@Madvillain47]

On the combat issues you mentioned Kiwami unfortunately heavily nerfed swordsman and brawler style makings it extremely weak by comparison to the original. Biggest issue i found was the extreme hyper armor added on bosses making it so difficult to combo or even knock them downfall at all. Thought it was still a fun game but it definitely feels worse than the original making me wishing they just remastered it similar to Yakuza 3-5.

[@m8rs558]

I may be wrong, but I think the reason multiple characters are recast to resemble characters from the new games is because they were that way in the original, having equivalents of characters from Yakuza 4 and 5. It's the same concept here Also, the in-game glossary was incredible to see after the only other game I've seen it in being in If Found because it's Irish lol

[@saltyderpy8343]

So, the brawl style does like 6 per punch and 12 damage per combo finisher. but with the equipement, you can make it to a whopping 24 damage max on a finisher! It's still lower than any style's single basic combo! Even the Tiger Drop does like 160 Damage, which a single charge sword finisher can do! (not counting the combo string prior, which can do up to like 1400 damage total) Are those damage numbers a lot, you might ask? I HAVE NO IDEA.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

You can make it higher with better equipment. I destroyed Amon with Brawler cuz it was doing more damage than my Okanehira fire sword.

[@RowbyVids]

15:03 I wonder if the dead frame is an inside joke or a genuine editing mistake

[@misterblight2522]

I’m so glad he’s taking longer on the yakuza 3 retrospective bro is giving me time to catch up

[@Dr_Heavy]

People say that gunman is only good for one reason, the double shot seals that basically double your damage with each one you put on

[@WiffleYK]

As someone who played the original and 100%'d the remake I def would say Ishin kiwami is a demake (Og had less grinding lagged way less etc etc.)

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

That kinda sounds bull. You don't need to falsely raise one up to downplay another. Just admit that they both had awful grinding. And yes, I'm playing OG now so I do know. Hell in OG Ishin you couldn't even stack the same seals on equipment yet in Kiwami you can. That's a big improvement.

[@stormysoup1083]

@@MugdhaMahdiShamsyou don't have to grind much in the original for the most part, aside from the stupid star requirements for sword training, the game is balanced pretty well around lower level gear even on hard

[@EliTheGleason]

16:10 that is both incredibly wholesome and sad, but mostly it makes me even more impressed that you still achieve near 100% completion in these games, I have add brain and jump from one thing to another and I still take months to finish yakuza games

[@rurouni_xyz]

"from years of training to prevent..." that had me crackled up but its believable. great video too

[@SecrePMD]

Oh, hey, i actually just started playing through yakuza. i’m on chapter 4 of 0, having a lot of fun so far!

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

Welcome aboard, kyodai.

[@Ticketman99]

Ah, the Yakuza 4 spoiler chapter lol

[@bobby495]

>Combat not living up to hype I personally think part of this is to due to the other stances being significantly worse than wild dancer in LAD:ish. Yes gunman (as I call it) is best dps (basically necessary in a NUR+, if you want to keep your sanity), but the fact katana stance’s guard is very inconsistent (more often than not enemies end up hitting right through your guard) and the katana damage drop off at about 600-700 damage (stats any higher have little to no difference damage you always average about 49-59 ish damage wise after - may have changed in a recent patch but was true when I tested it) and brawler stance hitting like a literal wet tissue heavily reduce options which are fun to use. Aswell as all this the fact the guard break is extremely pointless and usually results in you getting punished (even when used correctly) is not fun. Another big issue I personally have is bosses/mini bosses. Their hyper armour really ain’t an issue with wild dancer thanks to its ‘knock back’ properties (making bosses stumble) using katana or brawler is borderline impossible. Katana you are restricted from doing a 3 hit combo (in some cases 2) before bosses decide they don’t care and turn to. And brawler does little to no damage and suffers from a similar issue. These really take away a lot of the fun as the way you play a boss at the start of the game isn’t really much different as using other stances is basically punished. (Excluding heat actions, of course you can do more of them, but combo variation and stance variation is almost impossible). Just to make it clear I’m not saying everything has to be like judgment or yakuza 0 with broken combos. But at least the most basic combos should be usable in a boss fight. Quick Note: Damage stats aren’t exact when speaking about katana damage, as I’m recalling from memory but the damage drop off is/was true And all of this wasn’t much of an issue in the original, which in my opinion had more enjoyable combat. Great video and keep up the good work. Honestly surprised how to the point your retrospective is, whilst ensuring you got your points across fairly clearly.

[@FIREWING760]

I racked up 200 hours in Ishin. To get the custom Blade of the Shogun and farming the chicken races for the golden gun was actually ridiculous. Still love the game but man, the grind was atrocious. Didn’t even finish the style wheel upgrades either. I also purposefully played part of the game without using trooper cards for how OP some of them are (looking at you Shinada and Tendo) Ishin is definitely one of my favorites in the series.

[@cartoonvideos5]

The Tiger trooper card is pretty op also

[@chepu]

I so so agree with the statement near the end of the video, a Kamen Rider game from RGG Studios would be amazing.

[@yasahana4447]

Some funny differences are. The food is how you got your health up originally. That was changed to the trooper cards You originally needed to do a rythym minigame to get bonuses on your swords. And finally. gunstyle got nerfed so your damage and shooting speed was reduced while moving, Making it not as over powered while also making it more boring

[@EliTheGleason]

6:11 Yakuza: Like a Smooth Criminal

[@SlySinatraa]

15:11 isn't true, Kenzan had 4 too.

[@mistergremm735]

7:24 Thank you

[@prestongarvey6231]

haven't watched the video yet but. I'm still annoyed rhapsody of chivalry is gone from the main story and that the fog fight didn't let me see balls.

[@NyomiHendon]

I am busy 100%ing tthis game and loving it. Yes, I am insane

[@thedragonofdismashq]

i have to say, i do enjoy ishin quite a lot, and i do hope that in the september summit, we do get a old spinoff returning as a remake or remaster, if god is willing. until then, time to pump up the hype.

[@cossiosandovaljorge6086]

Me when the next Yakuza retrospective finally gets uploaded: 0:52 to 0:55

[@ClausMusic]

Ishin didn't deserve this, the original is such a great game but this remake did literally everything except visuals way worse.

[@stormysoup1083]

It pisses me off to no end that Ishin is now seen as a bad game because of this god awful remake, it's like if Kiwami 2 was the only version of Yakuza 2 in English

[@dragonspear570]

Imagine a Kamen Rider game with RGG combat where the climax heat mode could be a late game unlock for the given rider’s final form? If they go with style switching I think Kuuga could be the perfect choice especially since his forms have special modes

[@yeffery]

Ishin combat, from what I've seen, was never *that* good. But I can see how absolutely inferior Ishin Kiwami's combat is compared to the original. I think one particularly egregious instance of this; is the Circle/B swordsman style Guard break move. Originally (if I recall correctly) breaking an enemy's guard with that move allowed you to follow through with a full combo. Now I'm not even sure if that works at all. And the fact that you can use any attack against grounded enemy's results in your greatest priority in combat to be: "ok I'll just get them on the floor as fast as I can and then deal damage and repeat." No Bounding, no real thought to the combo's, just light attacking a guy who can't do anything back at you because you got lucky or spaced well enough to land 1 (one) finisher. No need to time the first finisher with swordsman as they're waking up, no need to use the second charged finisher to keep them grounded. Just super thoughtless. And that's pretty much all I saw from the demo's combat that I needed to (and remember) to make me lose interest in the game. And it doesn't even change animation to make your attacks connect with enemies on the ground, so you just hit the air above them. How does this happen? I mean I've seen modders add movesets to Kiwami 2 and Lost Judgement before and make these animation adjustments themselves, it's hard yeah but for a dev team who made the feature? Was there an issue with porting it to unreal engine? Not enough dev time? Who knows. Also, they nerfed brawler's damage by like 80% for no fucking reason I just don't get it why???? huh???? huh???? wha????? I foremost care about combat in these games, and I consider it to not be worth the price tag attached, couple that with the fact that it's an entirely "new" character cast, and that it will never get a sequel; and I find myself somewhat disinterested in it all in all.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

Brawler can be made OP as hell using seals or that one loincloth you get in story mode by default. In OG Ishin Brawler was 10 times slower but the parry invincibility lasted longer. So nerfs and buffs all around.

[@Jose-se9pu]

I had a similar experience, after all the hype, while playing this game I was like "that's it?" Not a bad game at all, but as you mentioned, I dont see the point of this being a remake, they spent a lot of time and money on something that wasnt necesary, because they didnt "update" the gameplay, and all that time and money also meant a full price, while a remaster could've come out for 30/40 bucks, reducing the expectations fans had with this game... I think the Yakuza series is in a "weird" place right know, with the series finally being super popular in the west, I feel Sega is milking it too much, we are getting another spin-off, Kiryu again in 8...and I'm not a fan of the name-change either...and 8 taking place in the US feels "weird" I understand the Yakuza series has been carrying the entire company for the past decade, but Yakuza SHOULDNT be an annual franchise.

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

They actively made the gameplay worse

[@RF-INF]

Holy shit, a Cvit upload

[@WeeGeeX]

I was about to buy Gaiden and found out it along with ishin were added to gamepass. I wish Ishin was a day one title as i was more than willing to buy Gaiden but found my self checking out after 55 hours of ishin

[@retrogamer4185]

Awesome video dude love the content 👍

[@jesusagelvis4917]

Cool! And I just bought it this week

[@synthiandrakon]

Too be fair its probably better than it would have been in dragon engine

[@ivangambino4135]

yeah i really hope rgg does something with the 'gaiden' title and actually spin off and do games on other characters cause i would love to see shorter games inbetween the big ones that fill gaps in the timeline

[@synthiandrakon]

To be fair ive always felt like yakuza 7 is a sign they're aware of dragon engines limitations and going turm nased was a way of working around those whilst keeping its benefits

[@metal_cactus]

Woo a cvit another banger lets goooo

[@Goatlowski]

“Im not going to compare this to the original” >proceeds to compare for 90% of the video 😂

[@nintendoe3173]

Good video 👍

[@OutlawOtaku]

Thanks for the review, I think I'll give this game a chance if I see it going on sale.

[@sanity000-x2r]

Hell yeah I have been screaming for the last few years that RGG studios should do a Kamen Rider game. Glad to see someone else say it.

[@OneArmedMadman]

The only *real* issue I had with the combat was using a fire sword. Every single enemy I used it on would fall over in agony, even bosses. I had to stop using that sword because it was genuinely making the game way too easy. Guess I know what I'll do if I ever play through on Legend though. Edit: It wasn't just once either, it would happen over and over, making the boss effectively stunlocked.

[@CidGuerreiro1234]

To be fair, other Yakuza games also had highly exploitable mechanics. Majima's Breaker style for instance was aboslutely broken against bosses. Kiryu's Beast could stunlock them as well.

[@OneArmedMadman]

@@CidGuerreiro1234 I don't think any of those were as easy as just hitting the boss with any attack to stunlock it forever.

[@cartoonvideos5]

Same with lightning sword

[@StephenTheZ]

As someone who did 100% the game nope Brawler never gets better damage-wise lol, and yeah Gunman is ridiculously OP. Mainly because there are seals that essentially turn your gun into a freaking machine gun. It's like using SMGs in DMC2 except the damage is 1000x higher. Anyway I liked the game overall but to me it's clear they still used a lot of the bones of the original game. The combat, physics, and general controls feel closer to the PS3 era games as opposed to a "remake" that is closer to newer games like Judgment or LJ. The camera in particular doesn't let you control the Y axis (snaps back to neutral when you let go of the stick) which is a big pet peeve of mine. But it doesn't bug me when I think of this as a remaster of an old game instead of a full blown remake (which it does not feel like to me. It's more like a "remix.") As a newcomer to the series I had no real hype or anything, I just played it as a new Yakua entry and liked it.

[@patrickstar8356]

10 YEARS

[@Mankey619]

It’s amazing that Ishin has gotten a North American release here. Definitely gonna play this game, when I’m done with other games and n my list.

[@Musicedge88]

Cvit I feel you're wrong. If anything they should have given you an item in the game that only increases all of the grinding.

[@fhjunior6183]

Thanks for the vid

[@onemwyt3701]

They should just port original ps3 Ishin to pc but nooooo they remaked the game with new characters and new gameplay system now Kiryu become Dr strange. He can shoot laser and kamehamehaaaaaaa. The beauty of original gameplay system is far better and balance than this remake era. Studios these days don't make the games like the old time anymore, i'm sad.

[@GunGun-cf3ss]

Exactly, don't fix what's not broken.

[@HunterForHire422]

Nah you didn't overhype yakuza 2s combat i tried and loved it. Its easily one of my favorites now.

[@vibespidersstudios8895]

For someone who import the original game on the ps4. I say my complaint of continuing the story it is a back and forth of the hotel/inn to the fighting area and keep getting annoying when the story is one side of the map and it takes like 3 mins to get back on one side of the map to the other side.

[@outlawdg]

I thought I was crazy but yeah the washed out colours in bright areas of the screen reeeaaaally stood out to me

[@hjblacdes61]

its aight/10 Second life is one of their best mini games tho

[@Dinklr]

I had a blast with Ishin and btw I didn't use trooper cards at all during my playthrough(or even healing items for that matter) on hard and I managed to get through the game just fine. It was definitely one of the most challenging yakuza games but it felt fair for the most part as most of the bosses magic had clear ways to counter them(except for the GODAWFUL lightning spell). It felt like I was playing dark souls with how much rolling around i was doing and only going in for 1 or 2 hits. It's also the first yakuza game where i felt I really had to learn bosses attack patterns and i honestly wish more yakuza games were as challenging as ishin. The music for ishin was also excellent with it being the 3rd best ost in the series imo.

[@samuel.jpg.1080p]

hard agree

[@ronaldood4678]

Great video. Ishin is a good game but always preferred Kenzan. You should play it even if you don’t know Japanese, great translated guides and cutscenes on KZbin. Ishin kiwami fucked the unity of the combat styles that were present in original. Sucks but nothing new from RGG remakes. Also Kenzan was the first game with multiple styles for a single character, not Ishin.

[@KHHC12]

Great video! God, id love an RGG Kamen rider game

[@TheSimmr001]

14:08 whelp. *gets in cage* why should i be in here?

[@warrior-vo9vq]

they really need to do a yakuza kiwami 3

[@joshuabrien2970]

Well they remastered it with 4 and 5 so unless something changes its probably not gonna happen

[@urbanizeddreams]

No they don't. Every time they do Kiwami on a older game, they ruin it.

[@callumrolston]

lol kiwami 1 and 2 are way better than the ps2 games@@urbanizeddreams

[@LIONREV7]

A lot of the grind of the original was probably meant for the vita app, too bad the remaster didnt ajust for that.

[@metalrob6713]

Now we need remakes of Dead Souls and Kenzan.😎

[@brandonthomas1078]

I had to get this game day one and loved it

[@Bazoinkerz]

The remake ironically didn’t fix many of the game’s issues. I think the setting and story are a great change of pace, even if the story itself has problems. I still enjoyed it though!

[@nishikiyamaa.4440]

10:34 the remake make it even grindier than the OG It wasn't even that bad in the original.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

Nah, seals in OG didn't stack yet they do in Kiwami. So it didn't matter if you got seals easier originally, you couldn't use em to become that much stronger. Just tiny boosts.

[@mmonsturr]

but you cant invert horizontal or vertical control. Driving me crazy

[@shlokwaghela9560]

So the 3 retrospective is shelfed for when the Kiwami comes out a decade later? Got it. On another note, I'd love there to be a Kenzan remake which doesn't mess with the og and one which doesn't try to appeal to the new fans

[@bobbynick5358]

Still wanting a Dead souls remaster/remake, that game could use alot of improvements. like add a dash of Ishin! gameplay and combat for firearms and able to use swords or melee weapons on zombies.

[@Zee-bo1jb]

This isn't Yakuza 3. That's ok Ill watch anyways you make great content.

[@samuel.jpg.1080p]

I really love this game. As someone who's interested in japanese history, Ishin mixes history and fiction in a beautiful way. While I agree that the grinding is one of the worst in the series and the remake could've made much more changes to the gameplay, it's still very fun to play and the bakumatsu setting really fit the yakuza formula. I also like how you're severely punished if you don't use the styles to their advantages. it's one of the most challenging RGG games but it still feels fair. I played on Legend without trooper, I died a couple times but it's still good. Now I'm playing on Ishin difficulty with healing/suport trooper and honestly it is actually fun using these troopers as healing/support trooper functions the same as healing items without pausing the game. There are some OP card which completely destroys even bosses and I ignore them completely. A lot of Ishin's issues is about balancing, these OP card is not optimized at all I think.

[@stygianwolf362]

Commenting for algorithm. Here's to another banger Cvit!

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Ishin waa great

[@Synest2]

1:51 FINALLY, I just hope SEGA cut that bs, and if we ever get Yakuza Kenzan remake, we get the original cast, so fucking tired of SEGA forcing shit down on our throat because "heheheh Majima do be like KIRYU SAAAN"

[@KamonKanaiTV]

Like a Nothingburger: Ishin!

[@imjustlikedenji5954]

That final chapter is the best final chapter in the entire series, it bends every other one over and R*PES it For that alone, it's a good game

[@LazyLee]

I'll come back after I finish o7

[@manaqeesh1235]

Bro uploaded an rgg vid and he came back from the dead

[@pokemengra]

10:40 Not that this wasn't touched it was by making it way worse than the original everything is way more expensive and you get 6 times less money from selling stuff and don't make me start about seals

[@thyorimori3269]

I always had a thought in my head that this game would not sell well because of how nishe the francise is, and having ghost of tsushima and other Yakuza's in our minds as reference Had a few buds on playstation joke how ishin would never come, and found it ironic the game gets announced when the main director steps down to the creative team (felt inspirong to see the creator want to actually be part of the design team, apologies if i got it wrong in any way) But, I would say it's a beautiful game, as i had my first yakuza experience with 0 as i ask "darn should i download it completly so the graphics load up?" Which was a game i almost didnt get cause a cousin said it looked weird and lewd with the Dancing girls and groping scene But Ishin, while not exactly a "this is pretty good!" Moment was spared criticism because i was happy to finally have the prophecied game in my hand, even had too get it physical just for the Sticker the physical games get , Played 7 in parts and it grew on me so friggen fast that i force myself to finish the rest of the series (at 3 currently) even when I've been spoiled to helk and back Ishin got "yo does it need to update to get less clunky?" And me getting stuck on the dumbest "find the Master's inn" for an hour. It didnt have the substory finder or wayfinders of previous games (while handholdy, i try to get the most of my first playthrough , in case I never play the game again due to college or wanna fight Amon in this case) It holds that special place in my heart as a game that would break all barriers and cement me as the Ryu Ga Gotoku fan I've become over the years thanks to Covid and fighting my mom for Kiwami 1/2 digitally and 7's steel book even I bought Lost judgement for less than ishin and feel it shoulda been vice versa from what ive seen on lJ without even touching the game yet. I still am glad i got it full price to support the devs, they deserve every cent And while it may be Fan mentality, i think for all its worth, it stands as a great Like a dragon game for bringing samurai and darker topics into the Franchise Its not the 10s fans throws out, and i wouldnt say its the 6/7s that critics would fling either Id say its a personal experience you come to enjoy, knowing it coulda been legendary, but was a good enough experience to stand toe to toe with the rest of the games in your library I hope if Kensan comes, it pulls a Kiwami and ends up not being as loved as the first but having vastly better combat and a more faithful take on the original (even with how dark the subject matter in that game is) Great video, it sorta gave me closure on what I always felt but couldn't put into words

[@gsifdgsgs]

Only thing they needed to change in a remake was just making it easier to get seals. This would improve this game 10 fold but of course they didn't do that

[@TheEcoolarg]

That glosary option in dialog would had come in handy in Final Fantasy 13 just saying I literally started playing like a dragon and I feel like I shouldnt watch this video, will comment in a few months if the series grabs me(so far in chapter 2 and is great)

[@JacobTheCroc]

For the Brawler style, I have seen lots of people complain about it so I have decided to collect the data for myself and oh god it's really bad. The most amount of damage you can deal without the loincloth ranges between 14-20 and with all best damage upgrades which you have to grind for, it can go up all the way to 40, at least from my testing. The Tiger drop will deal from 300 to 400 damage being the strongest tech out there. But in all honesty, do yourself a favour, get the best electric katana, golden pistol or craft the quickest firing one with all damage upgrades and just complete the game like this.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

You can still make Brawler great. I think it's the only style which has "greater damage boost" seals or something which can go up to 65% each and they stack. I got like 4-5 of these on my armor pieces and now Brawler annihilates enemies faster than Swordsman ever could.

[@DDayDark]

When I played the Japanese Ishin on my PS4 the game seems to be about the same, at least what I'm seeing from your review, as I have a low desire to play the remake, other than the odd changes on the character changes that's all I see that is out of place. Also I Don't understand criticism on trooper cards as this was present in the OG game, and your phrasing makes it seem like it was something added, unless they changed some of the skills on the cards.

[@Ticketman99]

Wait...you can use the Trooper Cards in story content and free roam instead of only the Shinsengumi dungeons?

[@stormysoup1083]

⁠​⁠@@Ticketman99no you can't, you can only use trooper cards in the dungeon in og

[@Ticketman99]

@@stormysoup1083 Exactly. Only in the Kiwami version can you use Trooper Cards in story and free roam.

[@cartoonvideos5]

The game was alright. It seems super grind heavy but once you get enough ryo to bet big in chicken races, then it becomes pretty easy. But yea, I think I enjoyed every other Yakuza game more.

[@astrea555]

Still waiting for Kenzan :(

[@humungousrichard9805]

But you don't HAVE to do substories though.

[@RockingGuide]

I may be weird, but I like brawler cause of its weak attack. I haven’t finished it yet so i don’t know if it gets stronger, but beating bosses always makes me feel fucking rad absolutely destroying them with the style. Other than that though there really isn’t a reason for using it I’ll admit.

[@justletmelistthese]

Notice how Kiryu doesn't kill anyone in this game either.

[@EliTheGleason]

It's funny that the brawler tree is just awful because I know I'm still gonna use it when I eventually play this game, I just like throws to much

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

It's not awful. With some work, you can make it stronger than the other 3 styles. The equipment I have makes Brawler do more damage than maxed out swords at least.

[@djernogoldenvideo]

Overall I enjoyed Ishin but not as much as I thought I would. The side activities were great and I loved the characters however the main story got quite confusing at times (did like learning about the time period though) . The combat was also a bit of a letdown in my opinion and I didn't like how upgrades worked (0 and Kiwami definently improved the skills wheels). To me it was also way too grindy when it comes to crafting new weapons and I honestly couldn't care less about the dungeon mini game. After finishing it I decided to finally try Kenzan despite the language barrier and was quite surprised by it. Despite It's age I enjoyed it much more than Ishin. Combat felt more satisfying, upgrading weapons is much more straightforward. The game's map was also suprisingly varied with many different locations. Out of the two samurai spin-offs I definently prefer Kenzan however I also got a copy of the original Ishin so I'm curious to try it out and compare the two versions.

[@DrStephen99]

Can confirm that investing in Brawler is an extremely disappointing waste of time, effort and skill points. Even when maxing it out, the only two useful skills you unlock from it are the style cancels and the extremely forgiving omni-directional parry that makes you invulnerable for a bit. The rest range from downright pointless to slightly useful in niche circumstances - for instance, you have very easy access to knockdown attacks and grabs, which can be then be exploited for easy critical damage... But the damage itself is so low and extremely easy to surpass with any other style, there's no real point to do that unless you're clinically insane and want to challenge yourself. Troopers don't even do much, anything Brawler can do, every other style does better. It's really telling that there's a mod that doubles your brawler damage and it's still not even close to matching a fully upgraded Swordsman or even a good Wild Dancer.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

You need to get those brawler damage boost seals on your armor. The set up I've got makes it so that Brawler does twice as much damage as the final tier legendary swords.