The Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God | The Lila Rose Podcast E80

[@MarianaZelenjuk]

I'm a simple gal: if Fr. Spitzer's on the thumbnail, I'll click on the video.

[@philklabe2771]

And here I am thinking I'm the only one that enjoys Father Spitzer content

[@moriahmatters4113]

Exactly!

[@maxwell8758]

He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@MarianaZelenjuk]

@@maxwell8758 gotta give us more than just a broad statement like that… this way we can all learn!

[@maxwell8758]

@@MarianaZelenjukIt’s not my duty to teach you. The statement stands for itself. He doesn’t understand cosmology, everything he said about the Big Bang is wrong, and he has no grasp on evolution. He is a theist who molests science.

[@MavMelodic]

Fr. was the President of the college I went to. I worked as a janitor at night to pay for tuition and cleaned his office often. I was amazed because he was often in the middle of reading books, but with half of a glass bowling ball to read letter by letter (mostly blind). Let me tell you: he’s read more than you can imagine! Tremendous intellect, outstanding orator, all from memory. More importantly, I was always impressed how kind he was to me, thanked me for cleaning, and always treated me like an equal. Not a Catholic, but he’s one of the reasons why I came back to faith. Great man of God who has made the most of his talents, despite what most would see as a serious disability.

[@seshwondo376]

Awesome story, it’s interesting to hear what he’s like off camera.

[@rosiegirl2485]

​@@seshwondo376 On camera you can hear his kindness... I think that it would be hard to fake that! I have no doubt that he is kind off camera! ⚘️

[@seshwondo376]

Very true, I love listening to him. I was more referring to his habits. I had never heard a personal story about him before. I hope you’re having a blessed lent:)

[@bradthehighwayman9956]

Fr. Spitzer is amazing!! I would love to meet him one day, whether it is visiting him where he lives or him coming to speak where I live. He's amazing!

[@adamgrosjean369]

What a fantastic testimonial! Very touching.

[@cityslicker6459]

First and foremost, Lila - you are an inspiration to us all. I have introduced you, and your podcast, to my family (specifically my 16 year old daughter). You are a beautiful soul that should be a role model for all young women. God bless you! Lastly, Fr. Spitzer is gift and a wealth of knowledge for all Catholics. God bless him as well.

[@Stupidityindex]

Let us stop looking at our scriptures as if it were ethical to suggest we all travel better with one foot in a stranger's fantasyland. Even Jesus Christ condemns faith for worthlessness in commanding mountains to move. No one looks for prophets in the real world. Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy. There is no reasoning with the religious of any kind, we know them by their works, speaking with a fantasyland vocabulary with one fork of the tongue, & of science with the other. Awful, shameful, nonsense. There is nothing ethical about suggesting prayer, just as it would be to suggest we all travel best with one foot in some stranger's fantasyland, as known by the fictional vocabulary including prayer, faith, & all things spiritual. Obvious to all, if God existed, then She would be so well-understood, theologians would only be found in fiction. Religious belief has no standards, integrity, honor, or standing. God made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel. Even Jesus Christ says faith is worthless in commanding mountains to move. Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Freud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy. It was secular law & order ending the inquisitions & witch-killing. It is the religious who gain selfishly by promoting themselves above the nonbelievers. It is the religious who bring not peace, but sword. Anyone reading the bible knows the stories are too ludicrous to believe, the message understood by context. The bible is parables. It is the religious who abuse language by declaring literature sacred, as if we all wished for a prophet to guide us.

[@mason4966]

😂

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

The scientific evidence for the existence of a character from a book said to exist outside the bounds of time and space is zero. Which is why faith and not evidence is such a virtue to those pushing the supernatural claims

[@BigPhilly15]

Father Spitzer is so underrated in the KZbin/social media Catholicsphere.

[@les2997]

He should write a book on The Shroud of Turin.

[@rolfme5499]

@les2997 A book of one sentence only: " It is a fraud! " .

[@les2997]

@@rolfme5499 I don't think you have a very good understanding of medieval art, science or even logic. With the exception of the Shroud of Turin, there is not a single piece of medieval art that we don't know how it was created. In some cases we don't know who created the art or what it signifies, but in each and every case we know how it was created. The color depth penetration on the Shroud is very shallow, only 1 to 3 microfibers deep, and can easily be removed with a razor or an adhesive tape. Thus, the image could not a painting, drawing or a bas-relief technique. Medieval artists did not have access to the advanced technological tools we have today for creating three-dimensional images on a two-dimensional surface, such as computer graphics or 3D modeling software. The logic that escapes you is that if an image can't be imparted on linen microfibers given the medieval state of the art, then it can't be a forgery, which is what you are asserting.

[@BigPhilly15]

@@rolfme5499 Liberals would love a book like that because they accept conclusions without premises.

[@rolfme5499]

@les2997 You utter meaningless gibberish! .

[@V14-x6n]

This nearly 2-hour interview feels shorter than some 1-minute interviews. Love Fr. Spitzer. Can’t get enough of his wisdom and knowledge. Thank you Lila. Great questions, by the way.

[@johnbuenger]

Wow! Thank you Lila. I’m not sure how I have never run across Fr. Spitzer before but this was one of the best things I have ever heard. You opened a new rabbit hole that will certainly be enlightening. Thanks again.

[@rockanne1202]

EWTN

[@jonathansmith4712]

There’s a lot of great content of his on KZbin and his Magis Center website has a ton of excellent free resources.

[@rolfme5499]

@johnbuenger This guy utters meaningless gibberish! Why are you so afraid of reality?? Stupidity is not " enlightening "!

[@form76]

Brilliant priest, I did watch some parts twice to get the gist and understanding perfectly.thank u lila ,Father Robert is just enthralling.God Bless you ✝️

[@kemmow25]

I think his blindness made him see and understand more than those who can see.

[@mariaprocner]

It was super fascinating! Please do more with fr. Spitzer! I’m super interested in Shroud of Turin as well 😊 God bless you both 🙏

[@honeyandlavender_]

If possible, you should have Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel. That conversation will be 🔥 You always ask questions that I have wondered myself for many years.

[@TheAdhdGardener]

Ooo that would be an awesome video!!

[@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx]

Honestly Fr. Spitzer is an underrated intellectual giant of our times. He has an amazing ability to synthesize data from so many fields in a coherent presentation. I just had one nitpick (sorry) regarding the title. When saying how science "proves" the existence of God; I think a more appropriate phrase would be "strongly points towards the existence of God"; as the term proof is better suited when reaching into the realms of metaphysics and can inadvertently oversell the scope and capability of what is in the common parlance regarded as "science". This may actually serve to weaken the overall apologetic for the theistic case. Thank you for all your work Lila you are one of the most inspiring figures in the Catholic space. Lots of love and prayers from here in the UK. 🙏🏽♥️🕊️ ✝️

[@marvinwilliams7938]

I’m listening now. Does this guy have any original thought of his own or does he just recite other people?

[@marvinwilliams7938]

Also, never really a straight forward answer in the first half atm, like reconciling 7 days of genesis vs big bang.

[@jesusmybelovedredeemer8247]

Science does prove the existence of God without the need of faith. Philosophy (which includes Metaphysics) is actually a science as proven by philosophers like Aristotle. The sense here is that the existence of God did not pass through the process of faith. Meaning, just by using a logical process on nature, we can prove God's existence. That's why all philosophers know that God or the Divine exists. Even Vatican I Council declared the same, where it teaches: "that God, the first cause (principium) and last end of all things, can, from created things, be known with certainty by the natural light of human reason (Denz., 1785-old no. 1634)" Once, we made a small debate about the existence of God with teens who were practically against the Church. We used the arguments found in the "5 Ways of Proving the Existence of God by St. Thomas" and these teens understood it. For those who want to learn about it, it's easy to search on KZbin and on the internet.

[@rolfme5499]

@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx This guy is an intellectual dwarf who lives in a world of fictional characters!

[@rolfme5499]

@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx Science does not point towards the existence of man made fairies! .

[@themoderncatholicwarrior7216]

There is a mistake or misunderstanding of the facts. The evidence, to my understanding that shows Eve lived around 100000 years ago is based on a mix of human and ape dna. But why would you need to mix dna from 2 creatures. The people who did this experiment also did it without mixing human and ape dna and found that eve lived just over 6000 years ago. That fits the bible. The trex is not as big as in the movies, they were a little taller than an elephant. They look nothing like what we have seen in the movies, the trex is a bird. Compare their feet to an Emu. They are almost identical. Now blood vessels have been found on their bones. So they cannot be as old as we have been told.

[@rudyagresta]

Father Spitzer is one of my favorites. His encyclopedic knowledge, his ability to "talk on a dime" has always astounded me. Thank you for the podcast. God Bless!

[@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife]

Ugggh the 60,000 year “made in His image” theory is very interesting. Still, prior to that time, animals did eat one another. And I thought that lack of harmony is part of “The fall”. I can’t make sense of that.

[@MrJulio173]

It’s not that we are more moral but that God promised us, through the sign of the rainbow, that he wouldn’t exact his justice in that manner again. This is why the pride movement uses the rainbow as their logo attempting to mock God and remind him even though they are drenched in sin he promised not to destroy them. At least that’s how I view it

[@dawnblock2405]

All respect to you.. There is no proof for 60,000 years ago. Were you there, was the author there. The assumption of the world being old is what is changing your ideas. My assumptions are going to stick to gods word.

[@johnsmith2wz1]

I thought I was the only one... I can't stand when people talk so confidently about the things they can't observe or the old times like millions of years... at least present it as bad "option" not as a law

[@johnyang1420]

Who told you what the bible is? Catholic church did in 4th century

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

Wisdom 19:19 seems to point to evolution though

[@viveka2994]

Because we can date things and there are fossils and even animal skin that is millions of years old There are also billions of years old bacterial mat prints

[@matthewstokes1608]

@@johnyang1420no, not so - that is a fallacy built on errancy. The Gospels were written 30-40 years after Christ’s resurrection - and the Church began immediately following Christ in Jerusalem - and the historical book of Acts was written by St Paul depicting the precise growth of the Church of Christ from Jerusalem to Athens and then to Rome. That’s the factual truth. Peace.

[@irishgamer876]

So he also believes evolution?

[@jamestollison6649]

Not all Protestants or evangelicals hold to dictational inspiration; also, if we say part is inerrant and part is not, who decides which is what? The current controversy with Pope Francis about "blessing" people in same-sex unions shows the danger of mere men trying to make such decisions.

[@alfredvincent13825]

Lila ,you should be the role model for young girls today. Excellent content as always.

[@Flankyflops]

Fr. Spitzer Books are Goldmines. Highly recommended!

[@gaspersignorelli3724]

Yes, I've read many and then read them again and I'm always learning something new or deepening my understanding. Spitzer is a genius.

[@knowan2310]

When God said "Let there be light." I could imagine that to sound like a big bang. The fact our Bible describes a day repetitively for the first week, I no longer understand a view that is not creation in a week...

[@BiblicalMysteryOfficial]

*Let's use the power of collective prayer to draw in a life filled with abundant health, financial success, and inner transformation. 🌌💰🌟 If you're ready to make it happen, give us a 'like'!*

[@1901elina]

I skipped to the Shroud of Turin part and I love how excitedly he's talking about it, I find it that exciting also. The more you learn about the Shroud of Turin the more you realize it's basically proof of the resurrection. I guess you could say someone somehow faked it even though scientists haven't been able to recreate it or explain how it would be created with a naturalistic method to this day, but that would take way more faith than just believing in the resurrection. Plus there's all these identifying details like the blood and plasma and Golgotha soil on it. If you want to learn more about this miracle watch the Pints of Aquinas episode with Andrew Dalton :)

[@rosiegirl2485]

@1901elina I totally agree with you about Fr. Andrew Dalton. He is super knowledgeable about the Shroud!

[@ShiniGuraiJoker]

I don't necessarily agree with you. I am notnfully versed on the shroud research, but it seems the Church is refusing further testing to authenticate what they believe to be true. I understand wanting to persevere such a possible sacred piece, but at the same time, if they have the ability to closely, 100% confirm the authenticity resurrection and thus god; why not?

[@1901elina]

@@ShiniGuraiJoker I hope you'll take the time to watch the podcast I mentioned. The journal that released the carbon dating results that implied it was from much later has retracted those results, and Andrew Dalton explains that they tested a corner that was already known not to be consistent with the the rest of the material and it was likely a repaired corner. He also shows ancient pictures depicting veneration of the shroud from before the incorrect dating. The only hypothesis that seems to make sense for how the photo negative image got on the shroud is the body emanating immense amounts of light, but no one has figured out how to recreate that. It is not painted or drawn and all such natural methods have been investigated. There's also the fact that the image is anatomically perfect (perfect anatomical proportions), the blood getting on the shroud first (no image under the blood) in the right places, and many other details that would be really hard if not impossible to fake. Again we can't even recreate it in this day. As far as the church getting it carbon dated again, I hope and maybe they will get it done again, and Dalton mentions why that's difficult, but I think we have enough evidence as it is that overwhelmingly points to it being the real thing, that is the result of a supernatural event. He goes through all the research better than I can recall it, so again I hope you watch that :)

[@ShiniGuraiJoker]

@1901elina I will definitely look into when I have more time. It is intriguing, to say the least. I would say that the overwhelming evidence it could be from Christ Era is plausible for sure from what little I have read since my post. The matter of the blood appears to be in question from some phorensic articles I have brushed over. Dunno if their is validity in then or not yet. Thank you for the response.

[@geo.ies93]

Brilliant. Why have I heard from this priest only now?

[@brs200]

One of the best interviews I have ever watched . Both of the participants were great. The interviewer should have him back for other interviews. He's great on abortion and other social issues too, which I know are major concerns of interest for the interviewer. Any negative comments are motivated by envy. It's absurd to claim that Father Spritzer is anything but highly knowledgeable and brilliant, when he sits there for almost two hours and coherently synthesizes various fields of study, all without notes. Some people are analytic while others are synthesizers. Immanuel Kant was a great synthesizer and one of the best thinkers ever. That does not mean he wasn't also original. The same is true for Father Spritzer. In addition, he is entertaining and interesting, as well as unique, or sui generis.

[@joostvandegoor150]

Fantastic episode. I loved every segment, and especially when you all talked about Near Death Experiences (NDE). Some of the stories from people who have returned, have done so much for my faith. But I loved every minute of this episode. Thank you so much.

[@jlynn5680]

The difference betwen those "myths" and the author/ Moses that wrote Genesis is, as we know, was told by God to him. All authors of the old an new testament were imbued with the Holy Spirit! And for a priest to say, "well, how did they know" or they were trying to compete with pagans is absolute Heresy! There is so much science in the Bible that proves the science today. How can one see that and then say oh, well some of that is true, but i believe the rest to be made up? You do not get to pick and choose what you want to believe. A prieat above all should know that! Creation was plainly laid out in the Bible. The Big bang negates Adam and Eve and therefore original sin. Absolute ridiculousness to hear this come from a prieat.

[@cassiesmith4403]

Please have him back! This was the best interview I have seen

[@therese_grimsdottir]

Wow I can't wait to listen to this! I was just talking on this subject with my kids.

[@pdworld3421]

This was absolutely wonderful!!! Thank you

[@Chief_2023]

Thank you for having Fr Spitzer on, Lila. Love him .👍

[@antonellatotino2794]

Fascinating. Loved his explanation of homo sapiens. All of a sudden burying their dead and preparing for an afterlife? Wow. Enjoyed it. I will definitely tune in when he is back on.

[@lisamoag6548]

Father knows facts! Thank you. Clarity Agility Timeless Near perfection. Good light. Beautiful beautiful beautiful!

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

Glad you're feeling better, Lila! I started listening to the podcast. Reading the timestamps right now. Dinosaurs and Eternal Multiverse. Nice. The "Are We More Moral than those Pre-Flood?" is surely to be a humbling segment with how we treat the sanctity of life. Not you, Lila! Thank you for all the gifts this year. You're a light in this world. I remember you mentioning this was going to be a doozy in your livestream. Hope your entire family including your new energetic bundle of joy had a very Merry light-filled, as opposed to de-lightful, Christmas! Luke 1:31-33 Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give Him the throne of David His father, and He will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Luke 1:44 "For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy." And while I think healthy skepticism is great, this verse might help with cynicism or temptation for "well actually" deconstruction, and if you kinda gathered from my comment/avatar...I'm kinda nerdy and have my struggles so this has helped me: Genesis 3:1 "Now the snake was the most cunning of all the wild animals that the Lord God had made. He asked the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You shall not eat from any of the trees in the garden?”" combined with this: James 1:19-20 "Know this, my dear brothers: everyone should be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath, for the wrath of a man does not accomplish the righteousness of God."

[@apocthinker6460]

This session was very educative. Everyone in the world should be able to access and know this reservoir of knowledge. I must say I have to buy Fr. Robert Spitzer's books.

[@Piercetheveilnow]

That was epic. I want more!!!!😅

[@JaredPowell-e2x]

I thought Genesis was written by Moses. Where do you get 500 BC from?

[@EliasB100]

So 60,000 years ago a soul was given to a man and a woman. Adam and Eve (who he doesn’t believe existed it sounds like) giving them transcendental power to do Math? Sorry but the point of the Biblical garden and our original parents is that before sin entered into the world; There. Was. No. Death. That is completely lost in your theory, sir. And this is why I am not a Roman Catholic.

[@yellowsubmarine615]

I love your podcast, thanks for doing this!

[@maryhopper8578]

Please have Father Spitzer back again soon. Thank you, loved this!

[@honeyandlavender_]

For something so specific, detailed and perfect it requires an even more perfect and intelligent designer. An explosion is not a designer. It’s just a short moment and then it’s gone. The more Einstein discovered, the stronger is faith became. The father of the big bang theory was also a catholic priest….

[@vinnyrac]

Why do I feel that if I sit through all 90 minutes of this video I won't once hear a scientific proof, peer reviewed study or cutting edge experiment showing unequivocal evidence for god, let alone the Judeo-Christian version? Can someone save me the time and reply with a time stamp where I can listen to one?

[@twosheds1749]

You will waste your whole life looking for one!

[@vinnyrac]

@@twosheds1749 😄

[@kabondemakasanjobvu5031]

please Lisa have Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel, he is also excellent and insightful on such issues with so many others.

[@chichilinha2895]

Happy blessed new year, dear Lila and thank you so much for your voice of compassion in this world🤗 I am going to learn to defend theism now, this man is very intelligent, and yes I agree, it would take more faith for me to believe that everything came from nothing than from an all powerful creator

[@saintkatericonservationcen2525]

Very interesting. Thank you Lila and Fr. Spitzer.

[@karendelgado7923]

I have great respect for Lila and Fr. Spitzer. However; I find it difficult to believe his take on Genesis and evolution. We find cancer and many other forms of disease in dinosaur bones, etc. so if death preceded Adam and Eve and all these diseases, which means God created a world with all that in it. How is that very good?

[@karendelgado7923]

Also if it was just a regional flood, then God lied when he said there would not be another flood like that because we have had many huge destructive regional floods since then. Also why would Noah build a huge boat with all the animals including birds for over 100 hundred years? Why not just move and why wouldn’t the birds just fly to another region? These are huge issues that non believers will question; and therefore will question the entire Bible. We need to be careful.

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

@@karendelgado7923 The flood of Noah is the flooding of Eden, which is now what we call "the persian gulf". Look how extensive that flood is, there's a basin still filled with water bigger than the entire island of Sicily, and you can imagine how explosively rupturus that wave from the ocean into the basin was, it must have reached an extremely wide area. No event of that magnitude has happened in recent memory. Inspiring philosophy shows the archeology behind this claim, in my opinion it's by far the best model.

[@karendelgado7923]

@@tafazzi-on-discord so it was so large that Noah couldn’t move in a hundred years? Or it was so large that the birds couldn’t fly to another location? Remember it took Noah over 100 years to build that arc

[@tafazzi-on-discord]

@@karendelgado7923 Yes ut was definitely too large for birds to fly elsewhere. Crows and doves aren't migratory animals, so they can't fly for more than I'd guess (as a biologist) 30 kilometers. Eyeballing the map, the flooded area must have had a radius of at least 1500 kilometers, even if the arc was pushed to the side of the flood, not to the epicenter, it's unlikely the birds would have had somewhere to fly. And yes, Noah could have moved, but the point of building the arc was to establish a covenant with God, not to save himself. God commanded him to build the arc, it wasn't a solution he came up on his own.

[@viveka2994]

They wouldnt have known​@@karendelgado7923

[@Mama0415]

Loved this, Lila try to get Rob Schneider on the show!! I’d like to watch you interview him about his conversion

[@johnchacko1425]

Rob Schneider a Hebrew catholic

[@anneturner2759]

This man is a gift , this is stupendous, God bless him always !

[@michaelabbott9080]

You keep mentioning "infant sacrifice" as being a horrific moral sin....Did god not murder all first born Egyptian male children..??. "And that night at midnight, the LORD struck down all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on his throne, to the firstborn son of the prisoner in the dungeon."...Exodus 12. 29-38. How is this morally acceptable..??

[@Murlo.]

Free will

[@rolfme5499]

Over 100 minutes of meaningless gibberish! .

[@MariaPereira-rz3dk]

Love Father Robert, just an awesome intellect in our Catholic Church

[@lisamoag6548]

Yes, brilliant mind and good character.

[@FranzBazar]

Lila your channels have become my new favorite these last few days! You get Such good guests. Fr. Spitzer is excellent. BTW you asked a question similar to one my cousin asked me the other day when he visited us for Christmas, and unfortunately Dr. Spitzer here gave a lot of contextual background without necessarily answering directly. Specifically, didn't "The Big Bang" theory essentially Disprove God? The reality is the Opposite, in fact at the time scientists pushed back hard on this theory because they did Not want to believe that there was a Beginning of the Universe. The standard view in the scientific community for a century+ had been the Eternal Universe, that the Universe has always been here and always will be. They did Not want a beginning because if there is a beginning, this implies a First Cause or Prime Mover as Aristotle called it. Our whole scientific foundation of Cause and Effect means that if there is a beginning of the universe (effect), there Has to be a Cause. I had related the other bit of history that Einstein had actually come to the same conclusion mathematically (a beginning of the universe) and actually introduced a "fudge factor" into his equations in an attempt to circumvent this conclusion - something which he said later in life was his greatest scientific regret. He regretted introducing an error on purpose to fudge the Truth he'd come to which aligned with Fr. LeMaitre's Big Bang theory. --- The Other part of your question , Lila, specifically as to doesn't this contradict the Bible, a Big Bang..>> NO it doesn't. Couldn't God have used this and "stretched out His arm" to fling the stars throughout the universe, as the Bible says? It just looked like a "Big Bang" per the science we see in our Universe. My theory is that in the First Instant of the Universe all the mechanics of science as we know it weren't exactly the same.. God flung stars millions of light years away in the first instant, caused worlds to form in (relative) instants, etc Before "Time" and all the other scientific laws took place. So the Universe Then proceeded according the the laws we see now. But the Light of those stars all started from the same place, and I would argue that's why we can see them here on Earth >> True, the Earth rotates around the sun and is not the center of this Solar System >> BUT how do we know that the Earth itself is Not the Center of the Universe, the Origin of this Big Bang? I think That is the fact which aligns both Science and the Genesis account of Creation. ----HOPE this helps!

[@antoniopioavallone1137]

Next video should be this: ''the philosophical evidence for the existence of God''.

[@Salvy5555]

Pat Flynn or Ed Feser would be very good choices for that topic.

[@Duane422]

This was a really fantastic interview.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

There may be some kind of evidence for a creator BUT it is certainly NOT the GOD described in Genesis as Genesis is probably a myth.

[@markb3786]

god of the gaps

[@crippledcow6012]

Such a beautiful video 🎉

[@ralphcravey4904]

As for the priest's refutation of atheism, I thought it was great! I fail to understand how anyone can believe that inanimate matter can magically produce intelligent life all on its own. If you watch any of Dr. James Tour's videos on abiogenesis on KZbin, you will never be an atheist. He is a molecular biologist at Rice University. His channel Dr. James Tour.

[@Mrsdyiesza]

Hi Lila and Admin, please also invite Hugh Owen of Kolbe Center! We'd love to also listen to what he can share about these topics. 🙏🏽😊🤍

[@LittleLibraryoftheDivineInfant]

Yes please, I second this🙏🙂

[@Sharp_Calidore]

i do think science and religion go hand in hand

[@twosheds1749]

Eh so we have peer review in religion? Eh No. Do we have observations repeated by independent sources? Eh No! Do we have acceptance in all other branches of science that religion is true? Eh No!! SO What are you on about?

[@ganrhod204]

What a smart man, absolutely blessed to listen to this.

[@archangelliii2536]

OUTSTANDING!!!!! The man answered some questions I've had for a long time...actually thank you Lila for bringing those questions forward to Fr. Spitzer namely: #1 Were Adam and Eve real persons or just part of the allegorical construct of the rest of the Genesis story like the 7 days concept? #2 Why has Islam, being a false religion as we know, yet being so successful in its proliferation throughout the centuries? Fr. explained those two with such a stroke of wisdom and knowledge I do not know whether being more amazed at his answers or the method he employed in answering them. WOW!!!!! Of course the rest of the topics he brought up were no less impressive and illuminating but those two caught my attention big time. Kudos Lila for that podcast...let's have a sequel by all means!

[@kuuushXD]

I don't really know :/ there are a lot of details he could have added and some things he said that are not really true. Copernicus needs more respect on his name! Fr. Spitzer talked about the galileo "controversy" which is nice, but he only mentioned copernicus like once... Nicolaus Copernicus was a catholic guy who (re)discovered a primitive the heliocentric model. He published a book on the heliocentric model and some catholic universities taught heliocentricism until the year 1616. It became one of four books for astronomy in the university of salamanca in 1561 and became mandatory in the year 1594. He literally dedicated the book to the pope and said this "If perchance there shall be idle talkers, who, though they are ignorant of all mathematical sciences, nevertheless assume the right to pass judgement on these things, and if they should dare to criticise and attack this theory of mine because of some passage of Scripture which they have falsely distorted for their own purpose, I care not at all; I will even despise their judgement as foolish" (funny enough John calvin said "who will dare to palce the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit" and Martin luthefer gave a longer quote which you can find in luthers works vol 22 where he literally calls copernicus an astrologer instead of astronomer and a fool, he also pulls out bible verses to disprove Copernicus which Copernicus predicted would happen XD) The reasons they stopped was because of protestants and pressure from the world, the theory was not completely correct, and literal forgery from protestants to undermine it. 1: the model copernicus brought forth said that everything went around the sun in circles. This is not true as its more like oval shapes, the pope at that time halted this teaching until a more precise model was made. 2: A LOT of protestants complained that it's not true because their interpretation of the bible makes the earth flat (I know people in the flat earth society today and there are a lot of protestants there today who argue the same as back then, it's basically claiming this proves the earth is flat: Isaiah 11:12: “And gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” (hint:its the corner part)). there were also some catholics who protested that the earth is flat but the pressure came mostly from regents from protestant influenced countries. 3: the absolutely most important part why it was not accepted anywhere else... at the time of copernicus there were not printers available everywhere in the world. Copernicus had to go and print his book in Germany (where the printer was invented 37 years before Copernicus was born). When he printed the book the guy who oversaw the publication was a Lutheran pastor by the name of Andreas Osiander (he came from the very place where Luther started his carreer as a schismatic dog of the devil aka from Wittenberg). Osiander put in a false preface at the first page of the book which said that the hypothesis in the book were not intended to be taken as absolutely ture, or even probable, but merely put forth to facilitate calculation. He did this anonymously which made it seem as if Copernicus had written it himself. It was Kepler, the german mathematician, who, after Copernicus death, found out and revealed that Osiander had put in the false preface in the book. (Kepler and Galileo were both responsible for reviving Copernicus theory).

[@kuuushXD]

Also, there are other things said which are kinda meh in the video... it's basically him agreeing with the popular secular science that often times are based on assumptions and not proofs. Fr Spitzer says the flood was a local flood, but there are mentions flood legends globaly, and honestly the secular world is trying to deceive the public because there are traces of "catastrophical local floods" pretty much everywhere in the world... added together thats a global flood catastrophe. For example, there are marine fossils on top of mountains, but this is because of "tectonic uplift"... there are also shorelines deep under water at some places, suggesting the wate levels were much lower. there is a whole ice-berg of stuff you can read about. plus historically is said to have landed in modern day turkey, which is where the oldest civilizations recorded exist today and civilization kind of expands from there through history if you look at ancient artifacts. He talks about how Mitochondrial Eve suggests all humans originate from the same woman but then he goes on about "scientific evolution" which is the most psyence of all science subjects... it's worse than flat earth. Evolution presupposes that life was created randomely. I know that there is the standing that God created the simplest life form and that it evolved into everything we have but the evolution taught everywhere is darwinian evolution, which eliminates God from the creation all together. There is evidence of animals adapting and changing but not in the way evolutionists makes it seem, every single person who was arguing for evolution (at the time of darwin) was extremely against the catholic church and they presented biased "evidence" all the time. Darwins right hand Thomas Huxley said "One of evolutions greatest merits in my eyes, is the fact that it occupies a position of complete and irreconclable antagonism to that vigorous and consistent enemy of the highest intellectual, moral, and social life of mankind- the Catholic Church" and then before one event where they showed their evidence he said "By next Friday evening they will all be convinced that they are monkeys.". Does that sound like someone who is telling the truth, or someone who hates god? I'll point out some other things as well 1: for evolution to work life must be able to be created at random, this is not impossible but the probability is so low that for the absolute simplest of life to be created, the components needed for the exact configuration for "life" are so many that in order to get it right randomely it is completely outside of the universes lifetime. even if it where to be randomely created, it would break within minutes, so it is required that multiple different events occur at the exact same time, which is practically impossible. Not only is it so practically impossible for life to be created by random, but not a single scientist in the world has ever come close to creating life in a lab. In a CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT!!!(the only thing that can be done is to take already existing life and corrupt it or guide it into a form, but that is not creating life, it's just modifying life) yet somehow we are expected to assume that it happened randomely. Scientists are not much closer to figuring this out than they were 1000 years ago. Watch one of the top chemists in the world, Lee Cronin, talk about this. 2: there are also plenty of forgeries amongst evolutionary scientists. How many "missing links between ape and mankind" have to be blatant forgeries before you start second guessing the "sceintists" promoting it? because there has been a lot of them. The most famous is the piltdown man. Not only that but the way that evolutionists argue against creationists sounds some alarms for me too. Take for example the "missing link" Lucy. Creationists claim that Lucy is just a bonobo skeleton, how is this refuted? by scientific articles comparing the Lucy skeleton to chimpanzee skeletons and showing that they are not the same. It's a different monkey, no one claimed this btw, it's literally a straw-man argument to make the opposing side seem dumb or they themselves are illiterate. 3: there are no missing links between any animals either. there is no evolution of skeletons from dinosaur to chicken, there is just the dinosaur and the chicken. everything inbetween is imagination and drawings. There are certainly skeletons of the same creature that looks different. Creatures can change incredibly much in very short timespans. The average height of humans in the netherland went from 150 cm to 180+ cm in just some generations after they got better quality food. The same was done with horses, people took horses to Iceland where there is not as much food, and within the same human generation the breed of horses in iceland was 50% of it's original size. But there is no dinosaur -> middle creature -> wolf. 4:dinosaurs is also an interesting thing. There have been foundings of dinosaurs (65+ million years old) with soft tissue intact. Soft tissue can not be preserved for more than tens of thousands of years according to science (maximum a million years). There is no way possible for soft tissue to preserve for millions upon millions of years no matter how they were preserved, yet it has been found in multiple dinosaurs. Also, a lot of dinosaurs where created by just finding a single piece of bones. one dinosaur was completely constructed after just finding the teeth. they made up the rest of the creature... there are a lof of forgeries there too.

[@form76]

Please have Father again , he was just brilliant as always .

[@Keet619]

WOW! Father Spitzer is amazing! Thank you Lila, et al, for this presentation!

[@rolfme5499]

Einstein wrote: " The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable but still largely primitive legends. No interpretation, however subtle, can change this (for me). " The meaningless gibberish of a stupid guy who does not understand science does not change that! .

[@7777simpleman7777]

I read aids as AIDS in the thumbnail 😅

[@paulmathis3232]

Therefore someone must have created God. Maybe we just don't know.

[@nosuchthing8]

Ok, stopped 10min in. If there actually are miracles as often as he says, it should have been analyzed in a study somewhere. It sounds like the good father never heard of the bell curve, there will always be the left hand finger of the bell curve that has healing.

[@debbiegraham5585]

Father Spitzer does have to come back, Lila...a must

[@masbro1368]

I want to ask. My questions... 1. The reality that we can see right now is that in this universe there are trillions of trillions of planets and galaxies. If there are countless trillions of trillions of planets... maybe not only planet Earth has living creatures inhabiting it...? For example, if there are a trillion other planets that have living creatures like Earth and its inhabitants are various types of non-human creatures, would Jesus also be God on those one trillion inhabited planets...? 2. The real facts that we can know right now... the earth is approximately 10 million km, the sun is 1.3 million times as big as the earth, and there is a star called U Scuty that is tens of billions of times as big as the sun . If the celestial bodies were super massive in size like that, the number in the trillions would be uncountable. How big do you think God the Creator is, bro...? Maybe God is only as big as the man Jesus...? 3. According to scientists, the universe is more than 13 billion years old, whereas according to historians, Adam and Eve only existed about 7 thousand years ago. Based on this science... maybe the universe has been empty without any living creatures inhabiting it for more than 13 billion years...? So what was Jesus doing for 13 billion years before there were humans, Adam and Eve...? Please answer me!!!!?!!!

[@michaelabbott9080]

Going with Bellermans Principle.... If you can give me a scientific demonstration...(one that is verifiable and repeatable).. that yours or any god exists.... I will happily believe you...

[@anneturner2759]

Curious … has he ever sat down with Dawkins , or Alex O’Connor ? Would LOVE that … this fascinates me.

[@God_is_in_the_details]

I absolutely love Father Spitzer, especially his work on the Shroud of Turin (BTW, if you're a phat and happy atheist or agnostic, DO NOT look into TSOT), but he and the Catholic Church are fundamentally adrift on their stance on inspiration and inerrancy, namely, who decides what's 'rind' and what's core? If you make the rind vs. core argument, it's up to man to make those distinctions, and we all know man's vices of bias and pride, and a host of other imperfections. The better approach is less 'sophisticated' but far more reliable: Scripture says what it means and means what it says. Unless a given context and language clearly dictate otherwise, take Scripture at face-value and literally true. Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:8-11 are clear: six 24-hour days. Father Spitzer is also an evolutionist, however, evolution requires millions of years of death, a precondition obviously precluded by Scripture. You cannot cherry pick Scripture; pull one thread and the whole cloth quickly and inevitably unravels. BTW, I wonder if Spitzer is familiar with the work of Halton Arp? Redshift is not Doppler effect but intrinsic, redshift being one of the fundamental assumptions that drive the belief in a universe billions of years old.

[@lowlymike]

Ty Lila & Fr. S; we have such admiration 4 U both. There is nothing like knowing what is now & has been going on since the beginning, now if you would shed some light on the future [...] Ha-hah. Appreciate Grateful 🙏🇺🇲🌹🌹♥️

[@silencedphill2252]

Amazing episode! Please have him back to do a deep dive on Eucharistic Miracles.

[@domidumdum4051]

I loved it! This man is a true scientist and an example of what an intellectual should be. Humble, fun, knowledgeable but most of all - pursuing the Truth by all cost. He is passionate albout all in what He believes, obviously not a cold academic, but with a all His heart in the discussion. I got so moved and I learned a lot.

[@jaybhavani8416]

We expect truthful scientific research oriented videos on the basis Spiritual science Spiritual Philosophy Parapsychology Metaphysics Cosmology Theology for Self realisation , iternal spiritual awareness , peaceful life and Peaceful bright future of human and world . Towards the Truth . ❤

[@raymk]

Atheist must rethink their approach to deny the existence of God once the idea of the afterlife and being "alive" without brain have been proven.

[@daneumurianpiano7822]

I'm an evangelical and I certainly don't believe in a dictation theory of inspiration. I don't know any evangelicals who do. Yet you're presenting a lot of good information. Thank you.

[@benyaeger4388]

Thank you. I totally agree

[@gaspersignorelli3724]

You're right but he surely meant fundamentalist biblical literalists.

[@flolou8496]

The three origins of reality and how they all point to God's existence. #1 The physical origin of reality in the form of the meticously designed universe and the Big Bang point back to God. #2 The biological origins of reality in the form mankind's DNA point back to God and away from darwinian evolution. #3 The mental origins reality of our very thoughts and consciousness itself point away from a brain centered origin of our thoughts and at a minimum point to a metaphysical if not spiritual origin for our consiousness or mind.

[@HuascarD]

I’m amazed by the father knowledge and passion about the faith. Now, just a couple of observations: we can actually say that God has a body as a generalization, just as we can say Mary is the mother of God. Even though I understand the father’s argument, the answer to Lila’s question wasn’t “no” it was supposed to be “yes, but…” and then explain the nuances. The second observation is about the proliferation of Islam, the most important difference in my opinion is that Islam is not a Messianic religion, since Mohamed was a prophet, not a Messiah, therefore, Mohamed’s death doesn’t kill the faith of the others like a Messianic religion would do. Thanks father for all this knowledge you share with us and thanks Lila for the space provided.

[@Jesus-w3d8l]

Fr. Spritzer, evolution, evolution, evolution. You don't recognize it. You still talk in terms of spirituality, not scientifically.

[@JezuesChavez]

"What is the best evidence for the existence of God " - Priest: "Prior to the beginning, physical reality did not exist" - A knowledge claim science does not make. We have no idea what "banged" or what happened to cause the bang. So the real answer is: Ignorance is the best evidence of the existence of God. We don't know, therefore "insert deity of choice." These theists will claim "Something can not come from nothing without a creator, well except the creator, they've always existed...." But physical reality could also just have always existed. And we have evidence for that. Right now, we know matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed (just transformed). There for all the matter and energy in the universe has always existed in some form.

[@Cathtradman]

Hey Don’t forget mainline Protestants 😢 there isn’t just Evangelicals and Catholics 😢😢

[@osks]

You make a compelling case for Zeus and Hades and Apollo and Poseidon and Hermes and Shiva and Vishnu and Ares and Brahma and Ganesha and Osiris and Krishna and every other deity in the pantheon of gods as possible creators - your conclusion simply does not follow from the premises! “Let God be true and every man a liar” - Romans 3:4

[@jacuz169]

The fallacy of believers in a god who "creates" is based on their unproven assumption that ANYTHING in this universe is "created." Instead of simply admitting there is still much we don't know about the universe, including whether it was created , these believers fabricate a "god" to explain the unknown. Then these believers proclaim that to believe the story, one must have "faith." If one has no faith, one is doomed to a hell, a place also made up. Worse, these believers ATTEMPT TO PROVE USING SCIENCE that which you admit cannot be proven in a physical way. Best answer to our existence and the universe we inhabit - WE HUMANS DO NOT KNOW. Not "god created..."

[@aarthipa]

I’ve always wondered why the Nazi symbol is a hooked Cross (Hagenkauz in German)? Why did the Pope support this?

[@TheSaintFrenzy]

Genesis was written around 1,400 BC not during the Babylonian captivity. 🤦‍♂

[@williammcenaney1331]

Say the Big Bang produced space-time. Then if "prior to" means temporally before, how can there be anything temporally before the Big Bang?

[@carlharmeling512]

God will not be proved. Ever. That would be to, in a sense, control Him which He will never allow. If you have not faith in Him, you will never know Him. Many think they serve Him who never knew Him.

[@monaroxyclio]

Such a brilliant man. His take on the Trinity makes so much sense. The origin of man/life stuff I just don't get. Sounds like Graham Hancock and every other atheist. The marrying of evolution with the Bible is just so confusing and no pun intended, but a serious blind spot in the Catholic faith and one of a number of reasons it is a false religion.

[@achinfor]

Great Podcast. Very smart questions that will help us understand the existence of God through science. As far as I'm concerned, belief in God is a matter of Faith. He can't be placed in a test tube. Science only reveals the paths God has laid.

[@jessejames88]

Thank you, Lila - love the fact that you did this interview. Disagree with him on a number of points as a traditional Catholic and former scientist, but an enjoyable listen nonetheless. God bless!

[@protheroenigma4441]

I'm catholic and I like him but Bible says Adam lived 900 years etc and others have too until God said let their years be 120 for they are man. So to me it seems we were created to live longer. Idk bout meteor but the flood definitely seemed global since scientists have found fish fossils in North America, up on mountains even. So I'm more believing in more creationism.

[@marvinbrando722]

Can be that praying is helping because remove pressure on the individual?

[@isabellapeck8892]

Yes please more on this fascinating and the shroud of Turin and the Eucharistic miracles ! ✨🍀🕊️ thank you

[@timauth]

I never heard any scientific evidence for god? I heard someone trying to sell a book about peoples subjective experiences with eye sight and near death experiences. @01:05:20 is your BEST evidence?

[@koppite9600]

Life began at conception but people still ab#%t ... why can't they follow science?

[@SummerLove-yv1kf]

My Protestant mind is blown. I had no idea there was space to have an old earth viewpoint in Christian orthodoxy. I have just unlocked a new obsession. Thank you so much!