Maria Antonia becomes Marie Antoinette (Maria Theresia s03e01)

The youngest daughter of Maria Theresa of Austria is chosen by her mother to marry the Dauphin of France and they want her to become a French lady.
Maria Theresia (2017) season 3 episode 1

[@sqseq1237]

Marie Antoinette was actually betrothed to Louis Auguste in 1768. The girl playing her looks between 12 and 14 years old. Francis Stephen was already dead in 1765, when Maria was 9. The aging is not historically accurate.

[@carmelgraham-williams1338]

Plus her beloved dog was a Pug

[@astrofabio68]

any historical series is 100% acurate...

[@tristenurl9617]

ok nerd

[@madamesatan5761]

It's always the consort that gets the love or hate. Catherine of Aragon was loved in England that even Queen of Mary of Teck ordered a renovation of her tomb. Marie Antoinette on the other hand received all the hate when in fact it was his husband and his advisors that should be blamed. The French people also paid because of trust issues, they ended up killing one another and it took so long before Napoleon came to the scene.

[@johnfaustus9404]

If Catherine had been the Catholic Consort to an English King only a generation later she would have been as despised as Henrietta Maria, and as Marie Antoinette was for being an ardent and unreformed royal absolutist in addition to being a profligate at a time of bankruptcy, privation, and revolutionary radicalism. What killed her, however, was the same thing that arguably killed King Charles I, Henrietta's husband. He invited Scotland to invade England, an incomparably horrific betrayal of his people, and Marie Antoinette wrote to Austria Hungary requesting an foreign invasion to violently put down the revolution and reinstate the Bourbons to power. Would that either Marie Antoinette, her husband, or Charles I for that matter had been less pig-headed and had any notion of what misery and discontent they had unleashed on their subjects, they would have acquiesced to the moderate reformer factions, rather than vindicate the radicals and plunge their countries into the abyss. While she was not solely responsible for her husband's mistakes, she unequivocally supported his follies and signed her own death warrant.

[@blitcut9712]

Marie Antoinette does deserve some the blame imho. While her (admittedly extravagant) spending was not really a problem she was a staunch conservative who worked to oppose much needed reform. She would later try to create an alliance of various European powers in order to have them invade France and restore the absolute monarchy as well, so there were legitimate reasons for the revolutionaries to be upset with her.

[@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht]

@@johnfaustus9404 Why would Catherine be despised then? Henry VII was a Catholic and so are Catherine's parents who are better known as The Catholic Monarchs and that seals the deal between the alliance of their kingdoms. If Catherine lived at the time of Henrietta Maria, Ferdinand and Isabella would never ever offer their daughter as a wife to a protestant kingdom.

[@QWERTYUIOP-wu6ht]

@@blitcut9712 So easy to blame a young naive woman for everything isn't it? Only 14 when she arrived, hated because she was Austrian, spied on , manipulated and extremely lonely. Before Marie and Louis inherited the throne the kingdom already began to deplete thanks King Louis XIV, Louis XV, Marquise de Pompadour, Countess Du Barry and hundred of incapable statesmen, greedy antiquated clergy and stupid self-serving aristocrats who contributed to the French Revolution. Yeah, Marie also played a part in the French Revolution but it wasn't as big as those bastards who came before her. In the end, the revolution was a failure but it opened a gateway to make peasants realize that they too can govern a land and rose into power. Now we have communist leaders, presidents, and other non-royal and modern-day hypocritical aristocrats thanks to the French Revolution.

[@samanthasmith61]

Prince Albert was also hated because he was German... when he was first cousin to Victoria who was like 99% German lol😂

[@AnastasiaIsabella]

If only Maria Antonia ( Marie Antoinette ) had listened to her mother then she wouldn’t have had lose her head and her life.

[@盧璘壽로인수]

tbf Antonia & Carolina were terrors in their own right and had to be separated from each other (they roomed together and were the most close, hence why after the guillotine Carolina's judgment became clouded and led to her own downfall) also court life in Austria was a bit lighter than that of France and Antonia had a hard time adjusting

[@GitanAnimex]

Nah, the one who was rulling france was her husbaand and his advisors , she was just an excuse

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

@@GitanAnimexThank you! She was a way to blame France’s problems on someone who wasn’t French, but everyone who brought France to that state was French.

[@SF-my4uq]

You know nothing about French history if that's your summary. Wow.

[@AnastasiaIsabella]

@@GitanAnimex she was a scapegoat and let them eat cake propaganda ..

[@sweethistortea]

I love this season already. I’m in Vienna on vacation right now and it was so cool to see all these places. 😭

[@thehistoryfilms122]

These scene was created in palace of Valtice in Czech Republic, not in Austria 🤗

[@shizukagozen777]

​@@thehistoryfilms122 She clearly means the REAL places.

[@NMaxne]

How was Vienna? What were your favourite parts and favourite food? My husband is Viennese so I love Vienna!

[@somekindofflower2024]

I don't understand people that blame Marie Antoinette when she had little to no power in the politics of France. Many queens were married young, that's not an excuse for being a gullible queen, but what's wrong here is to call her gullible. She was raised right as a princess and with all things against her like false allegations of debauchery from the public and promiscuity from the aristocracy she acted as much as she could as a dutiful queen, mother and wife. She donated to poor children on Christmas and taught her kids the importance of that, she let the kids of the servants play with her kids. She may have made some mistakes in influencing Louis, but that would most probably be because of the pressure she felt from the aristocracy as an aristocrat. Now, I don't know if people who blame Louis XVI in defense of Marie even read anything about him. They mention the starvation, the debts of the country and the rising prices of bread as reasons to blame him, yet he was denied the opportunity from the parliament and the revolutionaries to even solve these things. He started caring about implementing fiscal reforms (1787) before the famine (1788), but the parliament revolted against him, forcing him to constantly change statesmen and finance ministers and he ended up imprisoning certain members that opposed his reforms. When even that didn't prove efficient he had to convoke the Estates General, an assembly of three classes: clergy, nobility and commoners. The commoners class were still notable people, the bourgeoisie who distrustful of the King and actually opposing his Divine right because of their new liberal ideas, they declared the Third estate the National Assembly. They convicted the king and queen for the same crimes they did to him and her - high treason. If we are discussing who were the villains and who were the victims, I think it's important to remember their ends: Louis and Marie declared themselves innocent of the crimes they were accused including the "incest" between Marie and her son, Louis forgave his enemies and wished that his blood will not fall on France, while Marie apologised for stepping on the executioner foot despite the stress of being separated from her husband, kids and being humiliated before reaching the guillotine, while Robespierre, Marat and others reached cowardly and terrifying ends, the first being guillotined while having fractured jaw from jumping from a window causing him great pain, and the latter stabbed in a bathtub with rotting skin, by the hands of a woman who declared that she killed 1 man to save 100 000.

[@jessicag630]

Most rumors in their tabloids were targeted at the kings' mistresses. Her husband did not have any mistress, so the media targeted her for all the lavish spending rumors. The revolutioners happened to need a scapegoat as well.

[@cringecat3614]

@@jessicag630 Not to mention she was austrian. There was a lot of bad blood between France and Austria back then, before Louis married Marie Antoinette. Her ethny was certainly used against her. One of the things the crowds actually spat at her while she was making her way in the open chart was "austrian bitch".

[@TheMotherofTacos]

She literally had *NO* influence over Louis until they were already late into imprisonment and by then, it was far too late.

[@irawilliams343]

If only Marie Antoinette listened to her mother, she could have possibly kept her head.

[@nguyenanhtuan1196]

And did not have to perform in that opening ceremony.

[@AndyWhoKnows12]

Prolly wouldn't have helped

[@gaiamorgosi7181]

I think that unfortunately she wouldn’t have, a single generation of spoiled aristocracy didn’t create the French Revolution, decades and decades of oppression and not caring for people did: let’s think about the fact that all over Europe monarchies were wealthy, but Maria Theresa’s enlightenment created, for example, the first idea of public schooling. It is also useful to remember that the violence of the Revolutionaries exploded the moment they saw Versailles, where one window was equivalent to one year of bread for poor people, THAT created the Revolution, the consciousness of the people about how much they had been exploited and kept poor to satisfy a small portion of society. So. Well. Their attitude didn’t help, for sure, if anything it made it much worse, but the moment everyone saw the Palace, they ran inside, no word from anyone could have prevented that, I’m afraid.

[@SF-my4uq]

@@gaiamorgosi7181 absolutely. MA was merely a bystander. The revolution was the buildup of decades of problems, particularly the 5-10 years beforehand.

[@melodyclark1944]

The people were suffering because taxes were high to support the king's war for the United States and because of the famine from the severe winter in 1788

[@onetruekeeper]

Every action in Louis’ court is like a chess move. The wrong word or gesture could be fatal.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

That's every royal court anywhere in the world.

[@astrofabio68]

no more fatal than lose yout head

[@sebastianazocar2368]

It’s surprising that Marie Antoinette grown up already

[@Lily1127channel]

Yeah, she shouldn't be. She was 10 when her father died.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content lili! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤

[@nguyenanhtuan1196]

I did not expect the "frog leg" thing.

[@LordGeneralOHara]

Welkom in Europa

[@burningmoonfiction]

Thanks so much for posting this! May I ask if you have a link for watching season 3? I can't find it anywhere on the internet

[@janehollander1934]

I wonder if Maria Antoinette's mother instructed her on 🤫all things "marital". Louis XVI was clearly woefully unprepared 🤭😅.

[@sweethistortea]

@@janehollander1934 There are letters from her where she tells her daughter what to do. I remember seeing it in a documentary.

[@nm7358]

It took Emperor Joseph's visit in France in 1777, seven years into their marriage, to finally succeed and make them both understand what they had to do.

[@FlagAnthem]

it was his brother who went straught to king louis like "dude, WRONG HOLE!"

[@FlagAnthem]

​@@nm7358 😅😅😅 not mentioning fymosis

[@shizukagozen777]

She did, it is very well known. 😅

[@Belgisch_Monarchist1831]

I love the Habsburgs my favorite royal family by far and Maria theresia is one of my favorite monarchs where can you watch this series ?

[@Lily1127channel]

Amazon Prime

[@MichielBLKorte]

I advise you to look into everything Maria Theresia did as a monarch very closely before declaring her your favourite 😂

[@Belgisch_Monarchist1831]

@MichielBLKorte I've read many books about her it's through this my admiration grew I know she did some shady stuff but so did many other monarchs she's a great female monarch one of the best in my opinion

[@Lily1127channel]

@@MichielBLKorte She is actually the favourite of many, including historians 🤷‍♀

[@dasmysteryman12]

Why is it that the actress for Maria Theresa changes but the actor for Francis Stephen doesn't???

[@盧璘壽로인수]

oh good detail of keeping Marie Antoinette's childhood pet dog also was the Emperor Francis's mother that detestable??? last question, which streaming platform is this hosted?

[@archangeee929]

¡Lili, excelente vídeo como siempre! ¿De dónde eres? Parece que te llevas bien con la historia y las lenguas también. Lograste traducir las series y telenovelas historicas a inglés, aunque son en otros idiomas como español, aleman, turco y ruso. Te mando saludos desde Filipinas. ✨

[@Lily1127channel]

Muchas gracias! 🥰 Soy de Hungría. Lenguas y la historia son un hobby para mí.

[@wazi0crak75]

​@@Lily1127channel donde has encontrado la tercera temporada llevo bastante buscando

[@le_souverainiste_francais7420]

Vive la Reine !

[@ih8utbe]

Personally Maria should have never went to France to become Queen.

[@outinspace3083]

Good lord I didn’t know Chinese cresteds could get that big.

[@keizelharf5393]

Why after Francis dead, Maria Theresia did not elected as empress regnant, althought she literally acted as sovereign from beginning?

[@Lily1127channel]

Because women could not be rulers of the Holy Roman Empire officially

[@luiscarlosmotasantos729]

Por ser mujer.

[@ЯнаКарусевич-м9щ]

J'ai toujours eu pitié de Marie-Antoinette parce que c'est dans mon pays qu'elle a perdu la vie j'ai lu que son jeune fils a été sévèrement torturé et qu'il a littéralement pourri sur un morceau de paille Triste histoire de la vie de la reine qui n'a pas écouté sa mère plus expérimentée Marie-Thérèse

[@letsschubertiad1966]

Wo kann ich die Staffel schauen?

[@dominikakratochvil860]

Wait… it that Kotek?! And Pauhofová?! 😧

[@calliefinck6275]

When’s the next upload

[@wilhelmu]

where to watch this?

[@ErdbeerfelderForever]

Spannend. Ich kannte die Serie bisher gar nicht. Schade nur, dass die Perücken so schlimm aussehen.

[@Die_Frau]

Почему плохо?

[@fruzsimih7214]

ja, schauen sehr nach Plastik aus. Dabei trugen gerade die Frauen damals meist keine Perücken sondern puderten ihre Haare. Immerhin sind die Kleider recht ok.

[@calliefinck6275]

Which daughter was estranged from her mother

[@FlyxPat]

Geschmackvoll 😂 I learned a new word

[@miew8204]

Very "tasteful" word, right ? (:

[@cherylthommo1]

Bon appetit 😂

[@andreasmartin7942]

I wonder if there is such a thing as talcum poisoning.

[@vollhov2370]

Будет интересно посмотреть как Мария-Анутанетта была еще в Австрии. Интересно покажут тут встречу с Моцартом.

[@fruzsimih7214]

Marie Antoinette met Mozart when they were both children.

[@vollhov2370]

@@fruzsimih7214 Выкладывали отрывок где она еще ребенок и сидит на коленях своей учительницы.

[@fano6567]

マリー・アントワネット役の女優さん可愛い！誰だろう

[@calliefinck6275]

How could she say those things about her kids

[@jakecavendish3470]

Must have been absolutely queefing herself by the end

[@Die_Frau]

Что за фильм?

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

Wow! What a fantastic movie. Normal acting

[@мишар8128]

Өстендә Астында Янында Алтында Артында

[@N.A.S101]

Wow its already 1770?

[@Lily1127channel]

No, it can't be, because Francis Stephen died in 1765. Though Marie Antonette should not be so grown up yet. The timeline is a bit off in the series.

[@N.A.S101]

@Lily1127channel Yes it is because Marie Antonias marriage plans only began being discussed in 1768

[@Lily1127channel]

@@N.A.S101 Exactly. The series is also inaccurate because it showed in earlier clips that French marriage plans were already discussed for a little Marie Antoinette who seemed about 4-5 years old in those clips. It is far too early. Especially that in those same clips we see a beautiful teenager Maria Elisabeth, and Maria Theresia also speaks about that Elisabeth also has some suitors. That is also completely wrong, because Elisabeth was the first one who was chosen for a French marriage alliance. Only when poor Lieserl got smallpox and her face became scarred and no longer beautiful did Maria Theresa start to consider another daughter of hers for a French alliance. But as long as Elisabeth was pretty and well, it was her mainly who was considered for the French plans. This is something this tv series doesn't show correctly.

[@N.A.S101]

@@Lily1127channel Johanna and Josepha would have also been dead by now lol

[@盧璘壽로인수]

@@N.A.S101 true that, and they were considered to be the consorts for Naples Carolina became their replacement

[@josipjosipovic4765]

silly

[@lkgrave4959]

I wonder how she would have felt if she knew her decapitated corpse would be used as a prop for the Olympic Games? That was more disturbing than LBTQ+'s Last Supper.

[@hawkhillfalconer3529]

Sorry you don't know the difference between "the last supper" and a Greek Bacchanal. (the Olympics are Greek).

[@lkgrave4959]

@hawkhillfalconer3529 Well everyone sure as hell thinks it's the Last Supper and I wonder why it was blown of proportion.

[@michaeltres]

@@lkgrave4959 Ignorance, nothing more.

[@daleanderson1095]

@@hawkhillfalconer3529The father of lies invented gaslighting.

[@Lily1127channel]

Tbh to me it never occured it could be The last supper while watching it, I immediately thought it could be something with Dionysus and ancient Greek mythology. Dionysus is Seine's father (river Seine) and the Olympics are ancient Greek. The last supper has no connection to Paris, France, or the Olympics, it was painted by an Italian, in Italy, and it is still located in Italy. It had no reason to be there. Whether poor Marie Antoinette's placement there in that way was acceptable or not depends on our personal tastes and sense of humor, I guess. I had no problem with it but I can imagine some people had.

[@BrokenneckYgor]

Them oldies was right about sex

[@balterx]

por que siento que es otra serie hecha para destrozar las imagenes de grandes monarcas con cosas salidas de l aimaginacion de alguen para "hacer mas interesante" la vida de los monarcas...

[@astrofabio68]

esta serie es bastante fiel a la realidad, el unico error es cambiar constantemente a la actriz que representa a Maria Teresa con actrices que no se parecen en nada, mientras dejan al actor de Francisco siempre igual

[@balterx]

@@astrofabio68 gracias sabes en donde puede verse?

[@Cobbido]

Why aren't there any black or brown skinned people?

[@S3L3N764]

A rare type of cast selection isn't it?! Really shocking!

[@burgertacokitties]

Why do you think

[@Cobbido]

@@burgertacokitties Answer

[@burgertacokitties]

@@Cobbido Because this is a FRENCH family

[@Cobbido]

@@burgertacokitties oh?? and french cant be black??

[@JaneAustenAteMyCat]

Where is this series available to watch? It looks good