Lim Tean on the NRIC Scandal [SINGAPORE POLITICS]

[@BensSocialClub]

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[@BensSocialClub]

Ownself check ownself only leads to ownself praise ownself, ownself investigate ownself, and ownself exonerate ownself.

[@LonganLee]

Despite these being obvious and commonsensical, the problem is those who condoned the policy makers

[@pgobservers]

Alright, time to serve up some solid rebuttals: 1. @BensSocialClub: Wah, your “ownself check ownself” line very catchy ah, can become meme liao. But let’s not anyhow oversimplify lah. You think government is primary school group project meh, can just “ownself grade ownself”? There are checks and balances in place, from audits to reviews, plus everyone can see and hold them accountable. You see the unmasking issue now got fixed fast right? If truly “ownself praise ownself,” then why bother improving? Your point sounds shiok but bo substance lah. 2. @LonganLee: Eh bro/sis, you say “commonsensical” like it’s some ultimate argument, but where’s the logic? Policies aren’t made in a vacuum-got consultations, reviews, and even public feedback along the way. Condone what? If every policy kena 100% opposition before even trying, Singapore still stuck in 1965 leh. Real talk, things go wrong sometimes, but important is how fast it gets fixed, not just whacking everyone involved. Use brain, not just fingers to type, can? In short: don’t just repeat internet slogans or sound chim without backing lah. If want criticize, at least be constructive, otherwise just making noise only.

[@normantong3475]

They only praised themselves and never check themselves but rather pins the opposition party down and checkmate them

[@ericwong5891]

The government should kick these two ministers out before this little red dot becomes a black dot!

[@kobenson1479]

If the Government or the PAPies are not going kick this 2 ministers out. I think the public should decide during the coming election 😂😂😂

[@2bystander2]

difficult unless they are removed from the protection of the GRCs and stand on their own worth via SMC

[@silverpassion3588]

talk only. last time all also said never support halimah. When she walk about she got so many supporters

[@kennethlim5201]

If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. - Plato

[@LonganLee]

But many say Bo Bian to every policy. BBC or CNN can have video evidence if they go and hunt for footages

[@pgobservers]

Wah @kennethlim5201, quoting Plato somemore ah, very cheem. But eh, you sure Plato talking about keyboard warriors who only complain but no constructive suggestions meh? Taking an interest in government doesn’t just mean throwing quotes or comments online, bro. It means understanding policies properly, giving meaningful feedback, and helping improve lah. Otherwise, you quoting Plato, but behaving like Socrates’ worst nightmare-just making noise for fun.

[@pgobservers]

@@LonganLee Eh @LonganLee, “Bo Bian” is not a policy lah, it’s a mindset! You think every policy confirm everybody sure happy meh? Even free kopi voucher also got people complain too sweet or too bitter one. As for BBC and CNN, wah, you expect them to fly here just to kaypoh our local drama ah? Bro, they covering wars, disasters, and alien sightings leh. If you want evidence, don’t wait for CNN lah-go do your own research properly, or else just stick to kopi shop talk.

[@yukimi465]

This is the second time J Teo apologised for her mistakes and yet she is not even demoted. She must have super hard backing.

[@musico3415]

She did not apologize for her mistakes. She apologized that citizens felt sad only. It's like saying "sorry that you felt sad, but I am not sorry for what I did."

[@michael8372]

Actually, the circular from MDDI never asked any agency to unmask NRIC numbers to the public. ACRA, an agency under MAS, acted recklessly. So, Indranee should apologize.

[@LonganLee]

A new gov if installed can check more on them

[@pgobservers]

Wah lao eh, all these comments ah, kena until like government purposely want to jialat people like that. Let me slowly rebut, one by one: 1. @yukimi465: “Second time J Teo apologize but never kena demote, got super hard backing ah?” Eh, you think government is drama show ah? One mistake then straightaway must kena demote? She apologize because she represent lah, doesn’t mean every little thing she personal fault. You want demote everyone, next time who dare step up to lead? Think carefully lah. 2. @musico3415: “She not apologize for mistake, only say citizens sad.” Bro (or sis), apology got so many types one leh. This one is “I hear you and we learn from it” type, not “I bang table, you bang wall” type. You expect what? Cry on TV and self-slap meh? At least she acknowledge feelings, some countries leaders just act blur one. 3. @michael8372: “Circular from MDDI never say unmask, ACRA reckless, Indranee should apologize.” Bro, don’t suka suka anyhow point finger. ACRA’s job is to comply with guidelines, and anyway they now patch things already. Also, Indranee not Harry Potter, she cannot magic every agency to perfect overnight lah. Let them fix, no need always say sorry this, sorry that. 4. @LonganLee: “New gov can check on them more.” Wah, this one confirm kopi tiam talk sibei standard. New gov come in also human lah, not robots. Change for fun ah? You think play soccer, can change player every game meh? Steady lah, let them improve, don’t need reset button every time got mistake. End of the day ah, all these comments just show people dulan but maybe don’t understand fully lah. Don’t worry, system already improving. Next time unmask NRIC no need so kan cheong, got better safeguards now. Steady pom pi pi lah, ok? 10:03

[@BensSocialClub]

​@@musico3415 Because the PAP has this old-fashioned thinking - "once someone admits or apologises for mistake, they are taken as weak leaders." Do you agree? We are in a new political landscape, and the PAP is still living in the old age? Should leaders admit to mistakes? Of course they should! We all make mistakes. We're all human. Many of us would like our leaders to be more "human" in the sense of showing to the public world more of their fallibility, vulnerability, and honesty. Many of us, I believe, would respect our leaders more if they did this. We could connect emotionally with them more because they would seem like us mere mortals, who have problems, make mistakes, and suffer genuine emotions like the rest of humanity. Do you think all our PAP ministers behaved in this way?

[@michaelgoh403]

Yes. Commission of Inquiry is necessary as security of all citizens is at risk!

[@LonganLee]

At risk? What if competent foreign hackers already have access to SG data?

[@jessiejames7492]

from the President? who pays his huge salary? the govt! should know who he will listen to!

[@denisechan5992]

Lim Tean certainly summarises what is wrong with the press conference. Raised relevant hard questions for the COP if any is commissioned. Seriously, he would be the parliamentarian if given the chance.

[@larrylatiff]

The minister in charge should stand responsible.

[@kingqueen2859]

Josephine Teo must resign!

[@peterchew4018]

Expo Saga?

[@eddiemok9774]

If an organization in the private sector committed the same mistake, what would be the government's reaction? Would that private organization be spared from punitive action if its CEO publicly apologized? Knowing the law and intentionally breaking it is a serious crime, especially considering ACRA is a legislative and law enforcement agency. We should not allow the government to downplay the matter and avoid accountability. 🤔🤔🤨🤨

[@tankoon9919]

All of us agree that COI must be initiated for this NRIC case. The Government must be transparent to convince the public to accept the findings.

[@LonganLee]

Regulations are set by regulators. It's not that these are rocket science. But because someone is tasked the responsibility to do that job and having been given the power to do that by the Voters who determine who stays AS ruling party, they are supposed to communicate that clearly to the people. Else, without full understanding of the law, can you blame the People if they broke a law unknowingly? We tasked you to do the job. Else we can do it ourselves. But no, we let you do it. If we let you do it, it's your responsibility to ensure the public knows the regulations clearly. Simply put, one cannot say stewpid things like "it's on the website already. If you don't understand that's your problem", just to illustrate my point. For example, cpf policies is tweaked multiple times till most do not fully understand absolutely clearly all the cpf policies. One must not talk rot by saying, everything about cpf is on the website . Therefore, not responsible. False! Why? Because Public Policy need to be communicated fully clearly to the Public which by definition comprise all sorts of people. It would not be fair to the many who are not able to understand all the lingo and jargons. Do policy makers expect the People to explain the Policies to themselves or is it the job of those coming up the policies to Make sure the public understands beyond reasonable doubt? I hope my point is clear. Btw , I need a IB to skin it slowly for fun

[@zubinnt]

If nric not important, can change the passport number back to nric again ? I cannot remember the passport number.

[@teo88888able]

RESTORE NRIC NUMBER AS PASSPORT NUMBER 🤔🥶🤢🥵👻💩🤡

[@asmahmohamedzain127]

I totally agree with Lim Tean, convene an inquiry. What happened to privacy? Mockery of their own policy of masking originally.

[@rainpoem2]

They have failed miserably in their duties. So much of negligence. And the PM must look into it and address the issue too.

[@pgobservers]

Wah, @rainpoem2, you so fierce ah, immediately want PM to step in like superhero to save the day. But let’s be honest lah, every issue PM also micromanage, then the whole Cabinet for what? Just sit there and shake leg ah? This one clearly a case of misunderstanding at the agency level-ACRA blur, press conference clarify, guidelines tighten, damage control in progress. Not saying it’s perfect, but calling it “miserable failure” a bit drama lah. Not like they purposely leave your IC number on MRT seats for everyone to see. Let’s focus on holding the right people accountable without turning every molehill into Everest, can? PM has bigger national issues to tackle, not every misstep need Superman’s cape. Relax lah. 10:03

[@ericleoww]

Ownself check ownself again. ACRA is under MOF and the Minister of Finance is Lawrence Wong. 😅

[@LonganLee]

I like Lim Tean. I believe he is good as a MP in parliament for his courage and abilities to question gov on our behalf. But I want to tell him votes is what counts. Some voters tell me, they wanted to vote for Opposition as they cannot stand the policies. But at GE, they are presented weird or angry candidates. This made them vote incumbent. So must not be seen as angry man. Voters are turned away. Lawyer LT has Great linguistic abilities. Impress voters as a great Orator Without the angry face. This will save you

[@maleman67]

Lim Tean's questions were exactly what was on my mind. I was involved in masking NRICs in my organization's various systems back when PDPA was first introduced. So much time/money was spent to clarify and understand why NRICs needed to be masked. We had no choice but accepted the decision to go ahead. Now when this 'unmasking' issue first came to light, I was shocked why the need to reverse all that. What happened recently that needed the people to be educated again the purpose of NRIC?

[@kingqueen2859]

Josephine Teo must resign!

[@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs]

...not only resign but never to be any leader of any organisation.!!!🤨☝️ Shes' a disaster wherever she is...!!!🙄😬☝️

[@SharpshooterM6]

Its time for a better party, a better government and a better system. MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT!!!

[@bebbacoltoo6097]

All these old ladies must be out from the minister level- we need young generation ministers. Say sorry, but not for their mistake, just for the sake of saying sorry and shutting down all Singaporeans.

[@pgobservers]

Wah @bebbacoltoo6097, your suggestion like casting for reality TV show ah-“Out with the old, in with the young!” But being a minister not just about looking youthful on TikTok, okay? Experience, wisdom, and knowing how to manage big issues like this one are also important. Otherwise, you end up with a bunch of rookies scratching their heads. As for the apology, it’s not just “say sorry, full stop” to shut people up. They acknowledged miscommunication, clarified guidelines, and now trying to fix the problem. You think they enjoy facing Singaporeans’ fury meh? This not drama show, no “cut and redo” option one. And honestly ah, young or old, as long as the ministers got the guts to own up, clean up the mess, and improve policies, that’s what really matters. So don’t just sweep all the “aunties” out lah-got balance then Singapore solid!凸2 returned with love.

[@WeeHockseng-z2y]

One after another that how after the mistake make they apologize full of crap protecting their top people who are obedient....

[@kinng2488]

As long pledge loyalty to pinky , any grave mistake done , Bo tai ji, ai Zai. How the current system works

[@sc5534]

Aiyah, have they consulted before they implement any policy? Yes or No? Everyone pls vote. If not, it may result in policies that only benefit minority…sigh!

[@newideas9980]

@sc5534 ....I quote " This government has never consulted with Singaporeans before they implement any policy." You wanna to relook what you wrote???? Is this true or false????

[@newideas9980]

@sc5534....I quote " This resulted in policies that only benefit a small number of Singaporeans, while overlooking the impact on the majority." to valid this, you must provide your source of validated data; otherwise you are in trouble of spreding fake news!!!!

[@sc5534]

@@newideas9980 Thanks for your advice leh. Which part should I modify?

[@littlepaulwee5836]

As I said before, post LKY is chaotic for Singapore. I am a 60+ Singaporean, and I have observed many flaws is happening in this little red dot after Mr. Lee K Y passed away. To give some examples, poor hygiene in Changi airport public toilets. Poor cleanliness of our surrounding environment namely HDBs' . Foreigners coming into SG to steal, robbed and even challenge our law enforcement officer when SG decided to stop visa need for certain countries to enter Singapore. Friends and fellow citizens, PAP is heading south. At the next GE be very careful who you vote for.

[@kohyangchi4307]

I Already Know Which Party To Vote For and It 's NOT THE PAP 😡💨 🤡🎪🤡

[@marktn9851]

FTs took bank loans and left. All mostly written off after 7 years.

[@WeeHockseng-z2y]

Jennifer is not good in handling her job scope from one position to another....shame needs to be fired.....

[@kokkeeSeck-xs5yj]

Yes this matter is serious and should not be brushed aside.

[@Confidence_and_Fitness]

We only have a president dog.

[@LivingWater-ee7um]

Fully agreed - A COI is mandatory. President Tharman, are you a Yes man or own standing with Duty, Honor and Country - what are you waiting for? They must RESIGN - Jail and Fine. Singapore MUST maintain it Safe and Secured FINE CITY International status.

[@kokkeeSeck-xs5yj]

This matter seems more serious than a simple lie by Ms Khan in Parliament

[@douglasang3527]

If Singaporeans voted for PAP , they asked for it ! Singaporeans must wake up and vote for CHANGE ! 😅

[@SharpshooterM6]

Agreed, but no matter how hard I try, I can't convince the elderly generation to not vote for the PAP. :(

[@HG-kn3hb]

Waiting for a U turn. Waiting to see how many people get scammed when implemented.

[@marktn9851]

Unfortunately, once these info were exposed, those with intent will hv it permanently. Just when they want to sabotage individuals.

[@enghockchua8230]

maybe 5 years ago, some scholarly civil servants said must mask, then everyone in the civil service applauded and they got promoted for the excellent idea. Now, some new scholarly civil servants need to be seen as coming up with something new, so they said unmask, then the whole ministry applauded again and they got promoted. In both cases, all scored some points, getting promoted. Good for everyone as everyone getting promoted. Very harmonious society here in Singapore.

[@ysl9784]

After the president election, no more sound Liao !

[@kohyangchi4307]

President IS QUIETLY 🤫 ENJOYING LIFE & LANGUISHING IN UNSPEAKABLE LIBERTIES & LUXURIES THAT PEOPLE CANNOT EVEN DREAM ABOUT 🤫🤤😋💦

[@BensSocialClub]

A torrid December for the PAP: Transparency, Trust, and Truth under scrutiny☝

[@kohyangchi4307]

CORRUPTION ALSO LAH

[@pearly4697]

Now is the time to see whether the President got the guts to bring discipline or people has chosen the wrong President to uphold his duty to the people of Singapore.

[@kohyangchi4307]

President Uphold What ? Only Know How To CARRY 🏀🏀s 👅💦 & Pineapple 🍍

[@happypanda7003]

Some years ago, the govt. required that NRICs info should be masked out in banking statements. I was happy with this govt. initiative, because seeing my name and NRIC on a hardcopy statement, which can be dropped wrongly by a postman into someone's letterbox is very uneasy for a recipient. In addition, another initiative that security office cannot retain our physical NRICs of a person when visiting an office (?). Now if I read this fiasco correctly, the govt. now is saying it is fine to openly display this NRIC info on a public domain. Why is there an inconsistency on the govt's position ? Hope someone can correct my above comments if I'm wrong.

[@jasonlai1892]

I dont know about you guys and ladies. For me my NRIC number is sacred and holy. I will not anyhow make public unless needed as what we normally know ie to identify ourselves to the relevant authorities. Too much scam and crime actors out there. Imagine they know the NRIC of a biz owner, with some talents and creativity, make a fake NRIC card and go to borrow ah long.

[@peterchew4018]

100% agree...2025 coming😂

[@marktn9851]

When I do phone banking, the bank operator usu ask for my nric, now should I be worry?

[@carpaccio45]

PDPA is enforced strongly in clinics and hospitals. With this kind of change, this will fly in the face on all the data privacy incident reports that staff have filed over the years.

[@samliang4900]

OLD TREES BEARED ROTTON FRUITS IT IS TIME TO FIND A NEW TREE

[@ngg9544]

Durian old tree bear better quality and more delicious and expensive

[@samliang4900]

@ngg9544 more than 60yrs durian will NEVER bear any gd durian according to msia agriculture agency

[@timstim487]

pap has become very incompetent. acra is stupid, jo teo is dumb.

[@Akideoni]

Every time these ministers talk, more unease they cause sia. Can they just admit mistake and do something about it. They going to show us they are getting more and more detach from these considerations in-placed by their fore-bearers for us singaporeans.

[@smonyboy]

funny how ACRA is the only one "who jumped the gun"

[@kohyangchi4307]

Not Really FUNny - The Rest Jumped The CANNON Before ACRA 😅😬🥶🥵💣🔥💥🌚🌚🌚🌚🌚

[@tonykiang9052]

The incompetence of these mix of 3Gs n 4Gs reflects failures of the PAP Senior ministers who coopted them in . So who's to call to task? Think

[@davidboh7091]

Ft 6

[@pearly4697]

Sorry does not mean one should be holding on to their position. Thick skin to think that this can be swept under the carpet. Be accountable n bear responsibility. Don’t we have capable n responsible people to do the job than to allow menopause women to blunder n not repenting.

[@roxxyroxxy4667]

scammer must be very happy 😂😂

[@cjsamtab7]

For better cooked and more fragrant rice to be had, the ages old Rice Cooker must be replaced. Time corrodes, erodes everything and anything great and small.

[@shengyi1701]

Just look at Man City now.

[@ericwong5891]

These aunties should be sacked!

[@cheangderrick3536]

Some ppl need to go

[@kohyangchi4307]

I NEVER VOTED FOR THE PAP 🤡🎪🤡 And WILL NEVER TILL THE END 😡💨

[@jam729]

Flip flop like roti prata.

[@surrenderman4313]

LIM NO GOOD GUYSSSSS

[@teo88888able]

NRIC FIASCO INDIGNANT ATTITUDE SPOKE YOU SPOKE ME SORRY SORRY SORRY EVERY SINHAPOREAN IS AFFECTED 🤔🥶🤢🥵👻💩🤡

[@PHC-vg1mu]

A bunch of blurr chap rule.....that's why they keep on making all kind of mistakes. Hopeless.

[@LeeTom-d4t]

Small issue but making it big..😢😢imposters

[@daveng927]

ERP2.0

[@YewWaiWong-x2m]

hiding

[@teo88888able]

ROTI PRATA FLIP FLOPING 😂

[@richardshunmugam7724]

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[@davidwongwantho96]

These two ministers are worst of the kind. Sack them!

[@BensSocialClub]

Please take note: There are more and more PAP IBs/die-hard supporters try to sway public opinion, through stealthy means if necessary, favourably towards the PAP government. We need to be wary that there are those who inhabit cyberspace, with or without false accounts, but definitely with false pretences of creating an image for the PAP and distract online users from participating in meaningful policy discussion.

[@LonganLee]

IBs are lousy. Why? Every Policy is not perfect and Flaws can be found in Many Policies. So Criticisms is a Given and they are Valid or there are Valid Reasons to criticise.

[@timstim487]

another simply go blunder, mrt breakdown.

[@LonganLee]

If voters want SG to erode further, just Simply Go and vote PAP

[@timstim487]

nric is proof of identity and authenticator. must be masked. singpass is based on nric. pap is so below stupid.

[@pgobservers]

Eh @timstim487, the situation here is simple lah - the ACRA officer really blur sotong, misunderstood the guidelines. Nobody asked to anyhowly unmask NRIC numbers like opening CNY angbao in public. Now after so many hours of press conference, so many videos circulating on social media, everybody clarifying until voice hoarse already. Even the officer also finally say, “Oops, my bad!” and admit same mistake. Miscommunication, not conspiracy, bro (or sis?). NRIC is proof of identity, yes, but not meant to be your password or ATM PIN lah. The actual guideline all along is: don’t anyhowly use NRIC for authentication. Singpass already got additional layers of security, not just your NRIC number. Think about it: your name also identifies you, but you won’t use your name as a password, right? Same logic. So let’s cut the drama and focus on the real issue - making sure everyone, including agencies, follows the proper rules and doesn’t blur blur make mistakes again.凸2 returned to sender!

[@tengcristin1628]

Maybe the govt want to replace w a chip in ppl hands, more safe thry will say, just like Bill Gates n WEF planned. Jo Teo shd kno bcos she attended WEForum mtg w Tharman who brought her there.

[@martinng72]

U turn indeed, NRIC was perceived very important, even issue a guidebook, waste of money, kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3Stpaeenr6mmsksi=RJ6mqclENtvBkjGK

[@pgobservers]

Eh @martinng72, say U-turn so easy ah, but you think carefully, is it really a U-turn or just clarifying the road sign? 1. Perception vs. Reality: NRIC is important, but the key message is: don’t use it recklessly. The guidebook you mention is meant to educate people and businesses not to anyhowly collect and use NRIC numbers. Waste of money meh? If people still blur and anyhow use NRIC, maybe need to print even more guidebooks. 2. Not a U-Turn: The government never said “make NRIC your public profile pic.” They’ve always advised against using NRIC for authentication or as a password. What they’re saying now is consistent: NRIC is an identifier, not your secret PIN. It’s like telling you not to use your phone number to lock your safe. Logical, right? 3. 凸1: Wah, your emoji skills are on point ah. But instead of pointing fingers, maybe point to the part where the guidebook also talks about safeguarding and transitioning to alternative methods. It’s not wasted effort; it’s groundwork for better practices. Bottom line, no need so drama lah. This isn’t F1 U-turn; this is just everyone trying to get on the same page. Chill, bro! (Or sis?)

[@LonganLee]

Lau Thia Khiang once said that when PAP does a U-turn, they call it "policy shift"

[@michaelleong2582Quartermaster]

Usually on ACRA we search a company profile to do buisness with? so whats the IC issue , in the company its important to have all the directors listed with their IC number so we can run a bankrupcy scan on them. Better microchip all citizen instead of IC.

[@zubinnt]

Like dog and cat, use the same microchip

[@tengcristin1628]

Bingo! Thats wat is coming nxt. The WEF n B Gates agenda, microchip in ppl hands, citing its more secure. Tagged n monitored like domesticated amimals.

[@tengcristin1628]

You help WEF propagate the agenda of micro chip. This is precisely where this is leading to. Once link to internet, easier for scammers.😂

[@richardshunmugam7724]

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[@richardshunmugam7724]

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