[Limbus Company] Even SODA Is Better Than This

[@jarritostf2188]

Here's the real kick in the nuts. Gregor's EGO specifically isn't a tremor EGO. It's legitimately a sinking EGO in disguise. Everything about it wants enemies at low moral or panicking, the only actual tremor part of it is the random ass burst on the first coin. And then it's an HE lmfao, literally just a poor man's Solemn.

[@elmothecomrade5643]

"poor man's Solemn" i can't bruh

[@doorframe2617]

they just be throwing rupture and tremor burst on everything

[@oofink467]

Poor mans solemn when it fulfills a completely different role, has completely different usages, and also outperforms it in any content that isn't boss related

[@jarritostf2188]

@@oofink467 can't believe there's already a contender for copiest take of 2025 😭

[@oofink467]

@@jarritostf2188 okay let me get something straight, you're telling me an ego that costs 5 sp (would be +5 sp if you use it on a clash), that is a 5 slot aoe, with 2 coins totalling 36 damage (more if accounting for damage bonuses), that also gives you attack power up, gives the enemies attack power down and sin fragility AND basically drops the enemy level by 2 is somehow a "poor mans solemn" when all solemn lament does is kill 1 enemy at the cost of ego resources and sin affinities when LMD and sinking deluge already exists to do that exact same thing. Hell, i didn't even mention the self healing and tremor bursts because they're just the extra cherries ontop of this absolute stat nuke

[@dis_panda5010]

On tremor ish ego is strong because she gives more tremor count in self for other id and help with sloth resonance.

[@BigFellaDj]

yeah the passive + self tremor gain on use is really great for zwei ishmael and most tremor ids as a whole, so many of them use self tremor charge

[@user-mg2ml4qs4o]

>this ego is shit >uses tremor ego on sinking team

[@SpookiD]

As a self proclaimed tremor enthusiast. I can whole-heartedly agree that the Gregor one is shit. Ishmael's tho? Kind of nutty ngl. 1-3 tremor bursts on demand, it's cheap given that Zwei Ish fuels it herself in conjunction with sloth from her allies, SP regen if the opponent is staggered, good passive and self count. It's like that ego was made FOR Zwei Ishy. Quick edit: Forgot about the 3 attack weight which is also awesome. 5 in corrosion too.

[@oofink467]

Gregor is literally a 2 coin 5 SLOT AOE THAT REFUNDS ALL BUT 5 SANITY. Sure, as an ego its competing with solemn lament, but you know what? Solemn lament across 3 enemies without getting external coin boosts from manor gregor is strictly just worse than his christmas ego

[@HonkG.Womblatin]

@@oofink467 solemn is more so for boss busting,christmas nightmare is just for regular encounters i guess

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

@@oofink467 Nobody is primarily using Solemn to deal with just three measly enemies. It's for huge boss damage when Sinking gets turned into better Rupture. Sure, it refunds sanity, but so does Solemn (albeit at a much less predictable chance). If you don't have Solemn Lament, then Christmas Nightmare is an okay substitute, but even then this argument is going to be invalid within a week since Walp V is dropping and you can shard for the much better EGO for Sinking.

[@oofink467]

@@lordpumpkinhead265 3 measly enemies? Yeah. 3 measly enemies, because thats basically solemns maximum potential. Using it for anything else is painfully unreliable without sp healing supports, and trying to use it without coin power boost from manor gregor genuinely chips almost a quarter of what people think solemn lament is capable of (800+ damage), and then ontop of that, consider that solemn lament is both a gloom AND a sinking ego means that its individual coin power and its sinking damage via butterflies means it can be gloom resisted at the same time, and worst of all. The way the ego works (lower numbers getting weaker results from dmg multis) means that you will not be doing any substantial damage against a non staggered enemy unless they are specifically gloom and/or blunt weak. Christmas nightmare is, consistent, reliable, clashes better, more useful in more situations, more beneficial to the team (via passive) and even has a place in certain bosses that solemn lament would suffer on (notably, canto VII Bosses like dulcinea or don quixote). It provides consistent and reliable damage output and solid utility to boot with its passive, attack power up, and UP TO 5 EFFECT ATTACK POWR DOWN. All in a package that costs 5 (or gets 5 sp) to use, and doesnt even fall behind when fighting 5 targets (hits for 180 dmg without considering any other conditional)

[@oofink467]

Tl;dr Christmas nightmare is NOT a substitute for Solemn lament, it is just better in more situations

[@PhantomJavelin]

Ishmael's is fine. It's pretty obviously a self-Tremor support EGO, which is a unique effect that's in pretty high demand because literally nothing else gives it except Yurodivy Ryoshu and a handful of pack-locked EGOgifts. The passive is the main sauce, the actual EGO is kind of an afterthought. It's also Ishmael's only Sloth EGO, which is actually pretty valuable in Tremor teams because almost all of Tremor's best EGOs have resonance and A-Res effects. Gregor's is pretty irredeemably dogshit though lol

[@ChloricTheProtogen]

Molar Boatworks Ish does have self-tremor capabilities...

[@PhantomJavelin]

​@@ChloricTheProtogen This EGO lets Molar Ishmael can use a fully-charged 10-tremor S3 on turn 2. 5 Sloth resonance + Yurodivy Ryoshu puts her at 10 Tremor if she's position 1. It's not better than 3 weight Spicebush Yi-Sang in Mirror Dungeon, but it's probably a pretty solid Railway tech, especially if you want to hit the fragile+sinking button multiple times against a single enemy. Better for the whole Tremor teams (more self-tremor units), but better for Molar Ishmael selfishly (as opposed to Zwei Ish), since she can make more use of less Tremor.

[@vintage6900]

cut them some slack, I would be pretty trash if I was eepy

[@olyn.somewhere8154]

Unironically, if you want to play these egos its better to have spicebush > solemn sang. Ish nightmare helps spicebush tremor count + spicebush gives gluttony xD

[@serminimus1]

Forgot that Spicebush also has Gluttony I was going to use him but I start the run without changing it

[@olyn.somewhere8154]

@ haha happens to the best of us~ maybe give them one more try? :> also may i suggest a honglu ID (dieci preferred) with cavernous ego for the 3 triple ishmael tremor burst

[@aphantom.7165]

spicebush yi sang and dieci meursault and dieci yi sang are winning today huh

[@duykhangtran4406]

I tried them on Tremor, just Ish's specifically and I gotta say, the most I can give it is that it is only for when you wanna do the funny 6 tremor ego spam

[@mark62684583]

At least they made you reconsider using Soda after they released these EGOs.

[@yoko-442]

I am NOT gambling for Christmas Ishy and Greg

[@serminimus1]

Good

[@melonman8999]

I wanna for the designs, but I'd rather save it for walp

[@areszeudion5153]

@@yoko-442 i only gamble 10 to get some Don Quixpte shard for manager u4... it didn't gave me her shard.

[@yoko-442]

@@areszeudion5153 I actually did do 10 rolls, then I got Christmas Outis

[@yoko-442]

@@areszeudion5153I did a 10 roll and got holiday outis

[@S.K.U.L.L.B.U.S.T.E.R]

The Trinking ego...

[@Sinner8Ishmael]

HEY DONT BULLY MY SLEEPY ISHMAEL

[@oofink467]

These egos are quite good, i dont know what people are talking about, they’re quite effective in tremor since sp loss isnt something the tremor team has access to, and just as generalist egos, they’re genuinely extremely effective, with them both being 2 coin AOE egos that refund sanity on use, using them to further a sinking or tremor stack is the wrong way to go about it. They’re meant to be good in a similar way to fluid sacc, being an ego that compresses multiple roles into a generally effective and safe ego to use

[@victorvirgili4447]

CN Gregor inflicts 4 sinking.

[@oofink467]

@victorvirgili4447 and it also does 36 damage across 5 enemies without any conditions and can do far more if accounting for its dynamic 45% damage multiplier and also gives him attack power up, and the enemies attack power down and sin (highest res) fragility

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@oofink467 All these effects and it still feels like an E.G.O you would use when you're feeling quirky and don't want to use a regular skill, as opposed to an E.G.O with a proper role like SL being a nuke or FS being a team-wide heal. CN Gregor fails at being a generalist because instead of shutting down any enemy advantage it tries to empower any tactic you use and ends up spreading itself too thin and not being good with anything. Here's a few examples, compared to FS and SL: -Dongbaek has most of your team tree'd: CN clears up the trees but doesn't do much against Dongbaek. FS clears up the trees, not doing much against Dongbaek but healing you up so you can continue fighting well. SL doesn't clear much up but can rush a nearby stagger threshold to hopefully destroy the rest of the trees next turn. -Ahab trio is high SP: CN isn't gonna do much. 108 damage is good but it can be dealt with skills that roll higher. It's not gonna proc basically any of its conditionals, either. FS can deal good SP damage with the Corrosion and inflict more relative power difference than CN with complete reliability. SL has the capacity to inflict a lot of Sinking if you just point it at a defensive skill, of which at least one will use. -Dulcinea: CN isn't going to proc. Might clear up the minions a bit. FS gives some very much-needed team-wide healing and keeps the team going much longer. SL does alright, but it's mainly gonna be there for the Corrosion's high roll (which is greater at its worst than CN at its peak) Also, you keep claiming things like the attack weight, attack power down, extra damage and fragility, but attack weight above 4 doesn't matter much outside of regular (free) battles, its attack power difference is way too low (2) for the conditions on which you'd usually use E.G.O (your team is taking hits and the enemy is high SP), its extra damage will NEVER proc on bosses with SP healing and the fragility is based on the sins of the skills that are being used (meaning you won't have access to them next turn unless they are skills 1-2 (bad) or you've been keeping them stored for a while (not struggling)). CN Gregor can't nuke, it can't heal effectively (based on missing HP, max 9% in focused encounters and 15% in regulars (free)), and it sure can't win you a losing battle. I rest my case, it needs some sleep.

[@oofink467]

@victorvirgili4447 okay, lets break down just exactly how you are wrong. Starting with the “oh this ego feels like its something you’d use if you felt quirky instead of an actual skill”, this argument is immediately dismantled by the fact that its a 5 slot weight aoe. Next. You say CN gregor fails at being a generalist, but as a generalist it does its job perfectly, its functionally sp neutral, averaging out from a little sp gain and a little sp loss based on wether or not you clashed with it. It’s also a 36 damage ego that peaks at 52.2 damage (via dynamic mult so static multipliers like resistance would futher increase this damage in a formula i dont want to bother using right now). These are some pretty solid numbers, just as an example ill use a similar slash 2 coin ego. Contempt awe is a ego that rolls 24 (17 + 24) dealing 41 damage, with the potential to gain more damage and attack weight on resonance. Contempt, awe is considered one of the strongest ego in the game. And what does it need to match christmas nightmares conditional met damage? It requires 3 resonance. On paper, this sounds relatively easy, and it is, which is why its a solid ego. But keep in mind, Contempt awe costs TWICE THE AMOUNT OF EGO RESOURCES, DOESNT HP HEAL, DOESNT SP REFUND AND YET ITS STILL ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL DAMAGING EGO IN RR AND OTHER CONTENT. Lets go onto the individual boss arguments. Donbaek can turn 1 use a skill that will gain 5 FINAL POWER BASED ON EVERY TREE ALIVE, this is extremely powerful and can even brute force through most egos in the worst case scenario if you dont clear out every tree, as it can go from rolling relatively safe amounts of power (20ish) to rolling 40+, which is a clashing range that only 2 ego can really achieve, and if it lands your entire team is obliterated. Using SL here would only kill 2 tree’s, leaving you to STILL use 2 skills to target the other trees and waste 2 skills that couldve targeted donbaek herself, leading to a faster stagger. Also, rushing stagger on donbaek makes no sense, she’s literally got protection in her boss fight bro you HAVE to kill the trees to even do significant damage to her 😭. Ahab trio is one of the fights where this ego actually underpreforms a bit due to resistances not being ideal, however, thanks to the nature of the harpooner being nearly unkillable, you can basically force her to be in panic reliably in sinking, leading to the passive weakening the enemies a bit across the whole fight, along with the sp refund sin affinity fragility, which will help nuke down starbuck and ahab easier. Solemn lament works better here, but its mainly due to the fact that the resistances happen to line up better, rather than the ego itself being outright stronger. Finally, dulcinea. I dont know if you know, but in dulcinea, the biggest threats are the enemies, dulcinea herself is practically not a threat whatsoever outside of her nuke skills that she uses when she’s about to die or when she meets the party fever(?) conditional. Sl on average will be weaker against the enemies than CN, its really just common sense, they’re literally resistant to gloom and blunt, and ontop of that he gets to rebound immediately after the ego usage and not cripple his next turn to recover sp. Now finally. Your stupidest argument, “CN doesnt matter because its only good in regular/free battles”. This is dumb on several levels, lets take a few comparisons, using base ego. Crows eye view is arguably considered one of the best utility ego in the game. This is because it makes you faster and reduces attack power on same turn, these two conditionals have great synergy which lets you spam it and let the attack power down always be relevant on immediate usage, oh yeah. How much attack power down was it? Oh right. 2 attack power down, which is the exact amount of attack power difference that this ego will apply, how about i put it like this, the enemy would clash 17 (extremely common value btw, you can find this everywhere in recent cantos and intervallos) this is a threatening amount because unconditionally, many ids cannot outclash this value, but reduce the power by 1, and the clash suddenly pulls towards your favor, as it is now an equal clash, and change the power diff by 2 and now the clash is overwhelmingly in your favor. Just to make my point on CN’s attack power down being extremely relevant, lets take another ego, chains of others, this ego is well known for its 4 attack power down and bind on the enemy at the cost of applying the same effects onto yourself, what does christmas nightmare do? It applys 1 attack power down to 5 enemies, thats right. This ego in terms of sheer value surpasses chains of others in terms of overall debuffing, not to mention the fact that it has none of the downsides of chains of others. Next, the highest sin reso argument, Running any specialized team will always have s2’s and s1’s with sin affinities that also align with s3 nukes (easiest example is manor gregor s2 aligning with wildhunts s3), under these conditions, its really not difficult to just have no sin reso in you skill chain and just a small gloom sin reso to set up an easy nuke on LMD, or using binds to set up the “double aoe effect” the aoe along with wildhunts s2. Next, the healing is based on 3% + resonance, and it is extremely common for you to have at least 2 resonance on any given turn, making it effectly 5%, which can add up to 25% in normal (chain) encounters, or 25% in focused (chain) encounters, because i cannot currently think up the top of my mind a non-boss focused encounter that doesnt have 5 or more enemies right now. Your case is misinformed at best and flawed at worst, please actually test the things you argue about.

[@oofink467]

Also, reducing sp in a sinking team has never been a problem since ever, cause rime shank literally exists, or alternatively if you wanted straight immediate sp damage, you can use fluid sacc don instead, so the argument is basically the same as comparing the storage capacity of a barrel and a box when we have access an entire cargo container

[@sayospecter6731]

This obviously mean that our Capstone ID for Canto VIII will be a depressed Hong Lu with Sinking and Tremor as part of his kit /jk

[@PequodCaptn]

I mean i pulled Ish solely because of her cute smug in the animation, Also i dont have any EGOs for her im 2 months new

[@basty_gaming5750]

Why not save for Audor (or Wingbeat)?

[@kingkv3]

@@basty_gaming5750 saving up the character specific points is mad annoying as a f2p/new player (not even a completely new player, started in 2024) because you only get a good amount on duplicate 3 stars and even then, its minimum 200-400 (again, on a specific character) to unlock something

[@basty_gaming5750]

@@kingkv3 But isn’t pulling not good most of the time?

[@PequodCaptn]

​@@basty_gaming5750i just used some tix to spark a Hong Lu ID cause i am kinda lazy and impatient to do another Mirror Dungeon lol, and somehow got Ishy

[@LongNguyen-pe3jy]

Don't know about sinking, but I think Christmas Ish do well in tremor team. The team has enough gluttony resources, burst tremor a lot, give sloth res to zwei ish and passive for tremor counts support, and 3 atk weight. And gregor's is just shit, maybe it will be better if greg has a good tremor id, but I really doubt it.

[@ShiroTheFoxrouge123]

Now imagine if the kit for the upcoming walpurgis IDs are just focusing on tremor and sinking with a gluttony skill…what would be the outcome? Maybe I’m coping since they look cool but just imagine.

[@serminimus1]

To be fair all they really need to "Fix" this is add a tremor type that lower SP by Tremor Burst And these EGOs get a lot better

[@ihadfunplaying]

Christmas nightmare gregor? More like HE garden of thorns

[@hiroski4382]

all of my savings gone now this realization made it even worse...

[@Kyuryurerere]

We dont know what KJH thinking about sinking and tremor ego... Is there a message for you to try sinking and tremor team idk...

[@Beohn]

Ngl I’m already working towards trying to make it, combining 2 of my fav statuses would be very fun

[@AragoTina]

I was thinking to myself "i don't care about full stop office anyway" not only did i get a dupe bl sinclar and no 3 star after that i spend the lunacy tyat can potentially give me solemn yi sang on this thing.

[@serminimus1]

Ouch that is horrible Hopefully you can recover a little lunacy for when Walpurgis Drop Even if you don't care about Full Stop you might get some of the older stuff which is still good

[@guibeck8259]

Wdym lunacy for solemn lament? You can only dispense previous Walpurgisnacht stuff

[@AragoTina]

@serminimus1 i spend 100 roll worth of lunacy and free ticket for this thing. And didn't even get any 3 star other than a dupe bl sinclair. One thing i know for sure is that i don't have to bother sharding these.

[@Anxiety_probably]

​​@@AragoTina we somehow had the same fate, sucks to be us i guess

[@AragoTina]

@@guibeck8259 is that so? Doesn't old walpurgis id and ego be put in the banner too?

[@Ltmqt]

If you want to swap out Id click the team option in the shop. Honestly the most underused feature in MD.

[@serminimus1]

Doesn't it still cost 200 to swap out?

[@Ltmqt]

@@serminimus1 I only swap out 1 id so it only cost 100, idk if the cost increases if you swap 2 or 3 Id or ego.

[@fabiaaquino2207]

​@serminimus1 as far as I'm aware not the cost keeps at 100 (I literally switched yesterday bc I accidentally almost killed Rodion with Fell bullet yi sang and Sinclair too and i dont remember)

[@emilianoizanagi2245]

Esgoo will be writing his apology form to soda hong lu from the sound of this video.

[@sebastianmarx5744]

The ish one is really good in practice

[@LoannaDiem]

Just Gregor's sucks ass dude 😭 Christmael pulled through though.

[@tyeonwebb7675]

I mean yeah gregors is pretty bad and ish is carried by the passive BUT calling them the worst when lifetime stew Sinclair and Soda Hong lu exist. I feel as though you are rushing your opinion.

[@nehuenartaza5341]

So glad I spent all my free lunacy, and both tickets from the event and new year reward to pull wild hunt heathcliff and NOT these EGOs

[@vibingallot5038]

At least they look cool

[@edgard5230]

Dang Your vid saved my spin for nightmare ego and you gave me the ring yisang

[@JesseMorriis]

Tremor is the only team i have in Limbus and this ego actually benefits the team massively. 1. Passive allows self-tremor to build up quicker 2. Alot of tremor bursts 3. Zwei Ishmael/LCCB Ishmael has no sloth skills and couldnt contribute to sloth resonance until now As for gregor.... Yeah.

[@Maestro_Box]

top 1 rage bait

[@toxicspikes098]

why is bro trying tremor egos on a sinking team

[@serminimus1]

"Tremor EGOs" that require the enemy to be low SP And that inflict Sinking It's a hybrid EGO

[@shoutokutaisho7322]

@@serminimus1 "If the target is in Staggered, Low Morale, or Panic states". Did you just miss the staggered part? These are Tremor EGO's that throw in a smattering of sinking as a bonus. Trying to use them in a sinking team is legitimately deranged, equivalent to saying that Ebony Stem is a bleed Ego.

[@toxicspikes098]

@@serminimus1 "low SP or staggered" Calling them sinking EGOs is like calling Nclair bleed because he has some on his s2

[@Goaldede]

Yeah but pajama Gregor…🥵🥵

[@snansdunce8049]

At least its not an esgoo video...yet 🤨

[@ЛеонидСавицкий-я4ъ]

Kim Jihoon managed to trick me and spent 70 rolls on them. In the end I bought Izmail today. for the tremor team the first line of the passive is good and dummy as for resonance. And Gregor really has a skil issue especially for HE

[@serminimus1]

70!!!! damn that is a lot for theses

[@ЛеонидСавицкий-я4ъ]

@ Before that another 70 on Sancho. I lost 70% of the guarantor overnight. In general, finally the limbus started working like a gacha

[@AmoreyYaoiSecks]

yeah dude its a tremor ego its not going to work on a sinking team

[@serminimus1]

It's a hybrid EGO Can use low SP as well to trigger Burst And even in Tremor it's not that good

[@shamrocksardonic2582]

@@serminimus1 Serm man, i'm sorry, but saying Christmas Ishi isn't good in a Tremor team, who _loves_ her passive given how many of them use Tremor as Charge, is insane.

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@shamrocksardonic2582TBH CN Ish is just the better CN. 5 to 5/2 Sinking compared to 4, and the tremor bursts go insane, as well as having a busted passive for a team with lots of self-tremor

[@wingdingfontbro]

Only possible redeeming quality is the aoe damage but then again better options exist

[@AypuoH]

Duh, they are tremor EGOs, of course they are bad for sinking. I just ended hard MD on tremor squad and Nightmare Ish was pretty good at applying tremor count. 5+ tremor count for 3 targets is quite solid. AND she needs resources which I have aplenty in tremor squad (Zwei Ish solo fuels gluttony and pride, while literally almost all other tremor IDs provides tons of sloth). Didn't used Gregor, though, he is still unusable in tremor teams since only tremor ID he have is Rosespanner (And he is more like rupture/charge guy)

[@ComputerGamingg]

Ishy ego is pretty good, *never let me catch u using gregor ego.*

[@oofink467]

So an effective 5 sp cost 2 coin 5 slot aoe that also gives attack power up next turn is considered bad. Ig the reputation of people just not knowing how to read is really just a truth

[@ComputerGamingg]

@@oofink467 Solemn lament:

[@oofink467]

@@ComputerGamingg solemn lament when it is used once every mirror dungeon or story canto because you already can just use sinking deluge or LMD for the same purpose

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@oofink467Christmas Nightmare gregor when its use case is literally “on a scale of 1 to 10 you’re dead, would you like to lower that to a 9?”

[@oofink467]

@victorvirgili4447 what? if anything, solemn lament puts you at more risk of dying because unlike solemn lament, this ego is functionally 0 sp cost and will barely affect your clashing, while also nerfing the enemies ability to clash with you, and buffing your ability to clash with them, as well as just dropping ALL ENEMIES LEVELS BY 2 if 2 of them are in low morale or panic/staggered. People who say that Christmas nightmare is strictly worse than solemn lament or have any comments/opinions similar are quite foolish

[@Redrallygud]

Arent chrismas ego is for tremor? And ik the passive is almost useful but yeah gottta grab em for extra reward ig In ruina i just straight up greeted the blue reverb I killed philip it wasnt that hard but took me 4 try Gears people just ding dong and then you win Idk how to do greta its just invincible and had powerfull 2nd dice And music of bremen too i just cant figure out how to keep my ally alive

[@serminimus1]

For greta you kinda want to bleed her So you need to get rid of her 20 stacks first Then once you get her to like 20 bleed or something like that Use sanguine desires so her bleed doesn't go down And keep making her Bleed For Bremen is just a endurance fight I mostly just brute force it with Allen's pages on everyone so they get that +2 Pierce Then add wedge office and it's +3 for every pierce die There is probably a much easier way but I don't really know

[@fabiaaquino2207]

I legit 10 pulled 6 times trying to get Ishmael's ego bc i wanted an tremor ego for her but instead i literally got 6 other egos and Oyfi Heahtcliff when it wansnt even on his banner 😭😭😭

[@Mikairium]

the only good use is ish's christmas nightmare that has funny 3 tremor burst and 5 count (surprisingly good count application). but then it competes with ardor blossom which rolls, well, a 41 and wingbeat which, well. you see. anyways the only usable ones is ish's as tremor support for zweimael and thats it. yeah.... sure damage ego or whatever but it's just so.... boring...

[@frogget8116]

YAYY SINKING!!

[@Ryu1398]

Hi Serminimus, ngl i glad i didnt spend my lunacy and shards on those ego lol, not like i plan to make a tremor team anyway

[@serminimus1]

Hello Good since Walpurgis is coming soon Best to save for Magic Bullet EGO

[@KyuTori0]

how many tremor ids does Gregor have tbh

[@slothlifematter]

welp a shame cuz I like ish animation ego but effect is mid so I should just put it on display

[@serminimus1]

It's just a collection piece at this point

[@apolosousa3417]

are they good? no, are they better than soda? yes,also the passive is good for tremor teams with zwei ish,gregor on the other hand....i mean he could get an id for the health checkup intervalo?but thats just a guess

[@wolfram6260]

Gregor is just good AOE with 2 coins and 5 atk weight, that can be used literally everywhere, my personal recommendation is zwei Gregor, cuz he has 3 from 4 needed ego resources .

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@wolfram6260I feel people need to stop advocating for CN Greg and instead go full on for CN Ish. In any situation where you’d want to use his CN ego, either CN Ish or SL Greg are better options, be it you want tremor or sinking

[@wolfram6260]

@victorvirgili4447 maybe everyone stop using SL Greg, where this is fuckin useless? Like, he is the goat in sinking setups due butterfly effects, plus coin on linton and good specific passive for sp heal, but using it as a general is fuckin useless, I would rather use more stable ego for AOE damage and support as a CN greg instead of absolute random SL greg. Talking about Ish - she is good against bosses, her bursts is a goat with reverb+everlasting, but using it against a massive couple of enemies seems like not really good idea, if you want the same ark weight as a greg you need to use corrosion, which would be waste of resources, especially if this ego must clash and lost some coins in the result

[@victorvirgili4447]

@@wolfram6260 what group of >3 enemies is giving you e.g.o levels of trouble

[@chickensurfer]

Sup serminimus, will you be rolling this walpurgisnacht? (kind of a redundant question because the answer is yes but my mind keeps getting emptied right after I come back home.)

[@serminimus1]

The answer is indeed yes I want ammo IDs for a while now And finally we getting them

[@profdinding6455]

Why go for charge IV gift? Instead, maybe go for Downpour (the one that tremor bursts twice at ++) and level 2 bell? 8 fragile per turn, not to mention the frog eye gift.

[@serminimus1]

I can't get every single Gift for free I had some Charge gifts so I tried to get the Charge Glove

[@Yes-qw4tr]

as someone who don't use tremor team and only have Gregor ego I kinda like it it's not that good but I sitll like it cause it's aoe and it do funny sound

[@IAmTheWhiteVoidIAmTheColdSteel]

mfw I use 40 pulls just to see this (I spent 2600 lunacy and 20 tickets: ... I should have waited

[@serminimus1]

Yeah they are not very good

[@IAmTheWhiteVoidIAmTheColdSteel]

@serminimus1 Well, Wish me luck on FullStop office. Maybe we'll finally get Poise Hong Lu, who knows? All I know is that last walpurgis, the only thing I got was the Molar Office announcer.

[@gameface7167]

Gregors one is ass I’m ngl but Ishmael’s is really good on tremor and the passive is somewhat helpful on molar ish tho it’s basically just a tremor ego for her zwei id

[@serminimus1]

Going to try on Tremor with Zwei So I am hoping it's better Also I re-read it and it is if they are not staggered that it re-trigger the tremor Burst I though it was like Gregor's where you want them to be staggered or low SP

[@IneffableMasquerade]

okay you're overreacting a lot here. sure, they're not great egos, but they do have uses. it's just... they gave the most mid HE egos imaginable to 2 IDs that each have 1 really fucking good HE ego and 1 fucking broken walpurgis HE ego.

[@marwannovaniyanto7553]

In your typical sinking team, whos perform better between spicebush vs solemn yi sang?

[@serminimus1]

I am leaning back towards Spicebush Since Solemn doesn't really do a lot of Sinking and sometimes get in the way But both are pretty good Although Spicebush makes SP fights much easier with Deluge

[@marwannovaniyanto7553]

@serminimus1 thanks, much appreciated

[@hectorryu8182]

Welp, it is a bit of Shame that i spended some of my 10 pull tickets on it, but i think ita because gregor is cursed with bad egos and ids, but i think ishamel ego might be a good go, who knows? I will try to get they both ans test it out!

[@cozmocosminoci]

I spent 57 pulls.

[@serminimus1]

Ouch

[@rezafahlevi9659]

So you're saying we need to harrash KJH for made Christmas event the worst alongside an another worst EGO?

[@serminimus1]

Just don't pull for these and shard if you want for completion Otherwise you can just ignore these EGOs

[@rezafahlevi9659]

@serminimus1 Ignore when those EGO animations are actually really good, man...

[@tooktookgullible]

ish ego is gud

[@nguyenuc8602]

Me 130 roll didnt even get 1 of 2😅 now WN on its way next week im distorted

[@serminimus1]

I said when they release to save for Walpurgis Didn't say they are bad or good because I didn't got to use them But man they aren't that great

[@ruixyue]

dam

[@selena.hearts]

first 🔥