LIMITERS SUCK FOR METAL - HERE'S WHY | Metal Mastering Trick

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0:00 Intro
0:39 Biggest Mistakes I See
1:24 Fake News About Clipping
1:50 In The Session
2:20 Play Song (Band: Funeral Singer)
2:49 Limiting
3:24 Clipping
4:08 Clipping Then Limiting
5:29 Disclaimer

[@RaytownProductions]

What magic plugins do YOU use to make your songs LOUD?

[@gregfender]

Currently my faves are the Newfangled Saturate Clipper into the Oxford Inflator into the Newfangled Elevate Limiter. I'm not entirely certain if using two clippers in series really makes sense from a scientific point of view, but I prefer the sound of each one doing a little rather than either one doing a lot. After watching your video though, I feel like I may still be leaning harder than I need to on the limiter. I'll have to play around with it a bit more.

[@junkawakami3193]

if you have Pro L, set the attack time to slowest and release time to fastest, and the transient and release controls to 0%. That way you make it a clipper. Also, try to experiment with the lookahead and limiter variants.

[@jnbovee]

After years of struggling with this, this appears to be the only man in the universe who made a video that finally settled this for me.

[@RaytownProductions]

Glad to be of service! Cheers 🤘

[@boartaint1597]

Underrated video, thanks for sharing your skills!

[@Brutuscomedy]

How 'bout that v. 2 limiters or clipper and then 2 limiters or limiter, clipper, and final limiter? 🙃

[@JulesCalella]

This is my first time hearing of a clipper. Is it just a specialized compressor that only cuts the peaks of the signal? (but isn't that technically what a limiter is too)

[@djabthrash]

A limiter turns down the signal that exceeds a certain threshold under a certain threshold. It's like keeping ingredients under a lid by keeping your hands on a lid. You're squashing things. A clipper chops down the part of the signal that is above the threshold. It's like cutting part of ingredient that is above where the lid would be. You're not squashing, you're just cutting the louder/higher part. Not the same.

[@BrutalWeenielml]

@@djabthrash great analogy!

[@kenny.m.olsen95]

What if it was Clipper, then Compression, then the Limiter? Sounded good to me. Did like 5db for my Clipper personally

[@tmmmedia731]

Thank you Bobby 🙏

[@RaytownProductions]

Of course Tom! Hope you got something from it 🙂

[@MOMetalProductions]

Great video, very nice to have a level matched comparison for once on KZbin :) Question: When mastering for streaming, do you set a true peak limiter at the end set to a specific value (like -1 dbTP) or is a normal ceiling limiter enough in your opinion?

[@RaytownProductions]

I HIGHLY recommend setting your FINAL OUTPUT level to -1 dbTP. If it's really loud, you might even want to set it lower like -1.5 or -2 dbTP. The reason being is the transcoding process using in streaming will make errors that can result in some nasty sounding distortion. You can try converting your song to a typical streaming quality resolution like 128 kbps mp3 or something and listen back. If you are ok with how it sounds when exporting from your session at -0.2 or -1.0 dbTP, then just go with that setting. If you want to maxamize your files so they don't clip, check out sonnox procodec - it can be used to automatically adjust the final volume to ensure they won't clip when transcoded to whatever quality lossy codec you want. Hope that helps! Thanks again for watching 😊

[@MOMetalProductions]

@@RaytownProductions Awesome, thanks! And overall loudness doesn't matter at all right? (Even though Spotify for example requests -14 LUFS) It will only get turned down but I assume the track will sound more or less the same as long as the peaks are under control.

[@RaytownProductions]

@@MOMetalProductions I've gone back and forth on this a lot. And all the research I've done suggests to me to just make the songs sound as good as possible and let the platforms worry about the normalization. Super loud masters are still extremely common on those platforms and the big names aren't complaining. Just my perspective. Hope it helps!

[@MOMetalProductions]

@@RaytownProductions I agree, especially in metal the loudness is so essential for making a track sound full and powerful. It's pretty difficult to have a metal song mastered at -14 LUFS with peaks at -1 db sound powerful with so much dynamic range :)

[@victorsabatino2658]

This is actually crazy. You deserve a much bigger following man

[@AlextheBant]

What he says is completely wrong and he has no clue what he is on about. He should absolutely not have a bigger audience

[@RaytownProductions]

Thanks man. The haters and trolls can be left behind with mushy mixes 🤣 glad you found the video helpful!

[@AlextheBant]

@@RaytownProductions 2 poeple of renown in the audio world besides others have told you how this video is fundamentally giving wroing info. Don't be butthurt, just make sure you are better informed in the future before you make tutorial videos. Make sure you at least know how a limiter works.

[@trevorhook9495]

@@AlextheBant who responded, and then who should look to?

[@AlextheBant]

@@trevorhook9495 that is not a coherent sentence

[@extroy]

Another great video, gonna try this out!

[@RaytownProductions]

Thanks for watching! Hope the video helps!

[@gregfender]

Dude this is such a powerful technique. The difference is like night and day. I feel like I'd be a lot further along in my audio journey if I hadn't followed so many "rules" when I was first starting out. Kudos for helping to dispel some annoying myths!

[@RaytownProductions]

Of course man! Thanks so much for watching the video. Hope it helps you squeeze every bit of volume out of your tracks 😊

[@johnnydove]

yep that's been my end of the chain combo for a couple years now! clipping is the key, i think a lot of people get it confused with clipping on the input when recording, or using daws where you can clip on individual tracks if they go over 0dbfs, if there are still any out there that actually do that

[@MindlessVocalists]

Hey Bobby! Awesome video! I'm the band's vocalist, thanks for the shoutout!

[@RaytownProductions]

Of course! Pleasure working with you guys. You have such a good voice for this genre man. I expect great thing to come from you in the future 🙂

[@MindlessVocalists]

@@RaytownProductions Aw thanks man! :)

[@willphillipsaudio8872]

Brain Melted! What an awesome technique I didn't know about! That's gonna come in handy, thanks Bobby! 🔥

[@RaytownProductions]

Thanks for checking out the video! Hope it helps!!