Lin Shidong vs Marcos Freitas | MS QF | WTT Contender Doha 2023

[@goptty]

Illegal service from the Chinese. Its a shame umpires dont say anything

[@shenzhenpingpong]

Holy cow. Lin shows us how good he can play.

[@uaVeron]

All serves is illegal - that's good play? 2.6.4 From the start of service until it is struck, the ball shall be above the level of the playing surface and behind the server's end line, and it shall not be hidden from the receiver by the server or his or her doubles partner or by anything they wear or carry. --- failed 2.6.5 As soon as the ball has been projected, the server’s free arm and hand shall be removed from the space between the ball and the net. The space between the ball and the net is defined by the ball, the net and its indefinite upward extension. --- failed On video (0:07) tipical serve of chinies player. Xiang Peng in match with Lebesson - all illegal serves too.

[@shenzhenpingpong]

@@uaVeron , there are the rules, but are not practical, you cannot instantly vanish the arm, so there will always be some delay. As the player rotates his body the visual path to the ball becomes visible anyway. And as long as the opponent can see the contact point, they are rarely fooled.

[@uaVeron]

@@shenzhenpingpong , Lin Shidong (Xiang Peng) initially stands in such a way that he cannot fulfill both of these points of the rules. So he break the rules on purpose. Look 0:07 on video - Lin closed the ball even for the camera, which is on diagonal, and Freitas is left-handed and is not in the left, but in the right corner, he DEFINITELY does not see the ball.

[@shenzhenpingpong]

@@uaVeron , Lin and Freitas both essentially serve the same way, throwing the ball back and then revealing it as the body turns into contact. You cannot judge by the camera angle, tit's not the same as the player's angle. Notice, it also looks like somethings the ball is over the end line, but it's not.

[@uaVeron]

@@shenzhenpingpong unfortunately, the operators during the serves work very poorly. On Freitas' serves, they did a much worse job, but a small part of his serve was clearly in line with the rules when the ball was tossed in front of him. ALL serves of Lin violated the rules. Both pendulum and reverse pendulum. And on his serve, it was the right diagonal that was shown, from this angle it is clearly visible that he throws the ball behind the head / body, covering it from the opponent, who is not standing diagonally, but in a straight line. And I was responding to your post about Lin playing well. Therefore, Freitas interested me less. The fact that the players that China puts up for tournaments, apparently somehow testing future team of China players, is especially depressing, and both players that I looked at - Lin and Peng - DO NOT KNOW how to serve according to the rules. NOT A SINGLE SERVE UNDER THE RULES FOR 2 GAMES!!!

[@inyourface123]

In form Freitas loses to illegal serves