Lincoln 211 vs Miller 211

Baker's review and comparison of the Lincoln Power MIG 211 vs the Miller Millermatic 211! By request, we have the best-selling MIG only Miller next to the new Lincoln 211 amp MIG welder. We support both units and the purpose of the videos is to answer questions you might have about them both or independently.
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Miller 211
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[@Htown82]

I own the miller 211 and im so happy with the performance that deliver

[@9358dank]

Been Miller for years and don’t think I would change

Yeah, millers just work.

[@Busybeeingbeautiful]

I’m in purchasing for my company and we have several manual welders, some are Miller. This was very educational since I’m not a welder. Good to know a little something about the machines and parts I buy. Helps me to recommend to the decision makers. Love your customer service!

[@BakersGas]

Thanks for watching! Let us know if we can help with anything!

[@jokarpo6723]

Dude if your purchasing for your company miller all the way it’s higher priced for a reason

[@joatmon1857]

Please review both 215 units!

[@welder689]

I'm glad that I bought the last generation of Millermatic 211 before they went to inverter technology. What these manufacturers are pushing nowadays are throwaways at higher prices than the old tried and true transformer equipment.

[@wyo_garage20]

They’re making more capable machines than ever before. More likely to fail or have issues? Sure, maybe. But they offer far more than machines did 10-20 years ago. That’s a good thing and a simple fact.

[@ShowMeThePony]

I wonder why Lincoln can’t figure out the fan on demand like Miller has? I have their TIG 200 and 6 years later I still haven’t gotten used to it. That said, I’d still take the Lincoln 211 over the Miller for the simple fact that you can dial in exact parameters. Good for Lincoln to recognize that entry level welder doesn’t mean you dont want precision adjustments. If for no other reason other than to be able to ask your favorite IG welder what his settings are Bro. 👍🏻😂

[@jvazquez53]

Don't know about that Lincoln 211 but my 215 I can hear the fan going on/off or at least, slows down.

[@davidarmendariz8954]

I have the miller 211 OMG awesome machine, for me miller is the best 👍👊

[@wurlabyscott]

Waiting for the Lincoln version of the Miller 220 and Esab 205.

[@JamieFrank-g7l]

I heard in a previous video that the Lincoln 211i doesn't have a "run in" feature when starting the weld. Does the Miller 211 have this feature.

[@DanielHernandez-hz5rt]

I have the 211 and added a 15 foot gun works great can you add a 15 foot to lincoln ?

[@jvazquez53]

We need to see the 215 comparison.

[@clemmersmetalworx7012]

I have a lot of blue . Spent 10's of thousands on them . And it seems they are always going in for service with low hours . Parts availability is horrible as well. Their computers and electronics seem to be horrible. Is Lincoln any better ?

[@BakersGas]

Hey I am sorry to hear you are having issues. We are a service center for both. We probably see more Miller back but we sell a lot more more Miller. The good news is there warranty is great and they take care of everything.

[@EquitySolutionRayRaz]

Alright going back n forth for days in new buy from you guys online and now I came across Lincoln units push gun for aluminum and wondered how it would stack compared to 30a spool gun . I’m looking for a good mig , I have a good stick welder and my buddy gave me a Lincoln flux core which blew my mind on an exhaust pipe project for my box truck now I just need one of the best (Mig) available . What would you compare to the 252 millermatic HO with 30A spool gun ? Aluminum is going to be a must in this new purchase .

[@falcon6936]

Andrew is really trying hard not to offend Miller Corp. Did he say which one he prefers? I have no affiliation or loyalty towards any of these companies, can someone tell me which is the better MIG 211?

[@stusok6981]

keep comparisons coming! please

[@ElkoCowboy888]

I personally like the Digital display on the Lincoln seems a little more modern. And most welders in this category have it these days, American or Chinese. But I think Miller is coming out with new Models this year with Digital display.

[@soulwindgaming3599]

How much is the miller machine?😊

[@jackkrantz420]

I bought a Miller because I thought they were the best, but I guess I was wrong. I bought my 211 in 2019 and use it as a DIYer. I have only run a little over 2 - 11lb spools with gas on 220, 2 short times on 120 and now it is dead. I didn't realize that the were disposable units. Mine was working fine 1 day and the next time I went to weld there was no wire feed. I checked the switch on the gun, then gave up and called support. I was told to check the feed motor by applying 9 volts, It worked fine. Support said that if it wasn't the motor it was the board. I'm so Disappointed in Miller, and Pissed off. I went back to the Local Shop where I bought it & they said it wasn't worth fixing & I should think about buying a new Lincoln! I've read that this is a very common problem and really think that Miller should stand behind their products hat they screwed up on. Don't buy the millermatic 211, it will not Last

[@tomthompson7400]

theres no torch on the miller ?

[@truthserum9157]

Why didn’t you use the multimatic 211?

[@BakersGas]

we have an entire video on the 211 for Miller if you have more questions on it

[@timothysvec8568]

My miller 211 will run up to .035 wire. Did I hear you right and saying that the Lincoln will run over .040?

[@BakersGas]

Yes the Lincoln will do 045

[@JeepnJeff]

I'd love to see an ESAB, Miller, and Lincoln 215 comparison.

[@BakersGas]

Thanks for watching! We will try to make it happen!

Brah, stay away from Esab. They went from industrial power house 50yrs ago to a very small company that parts and accessories are super hard to find. Airco is another one that went from industrial king to small company

[@johndoe43]

Good info and video. Thank you

[@shwedman]

This is a great video. I'm about to start teaching myself to weld and am in the market for a new Mig. Been on the fence between Lincoln, Miller and Hobart. As the owner of a smaller manufacturing company, I love that Millers are still made in the USA. However with the Bidenconomy being what it is, the Millermatic 211 is a tough sell at almost double the price of the Lincoln 211i. Keep the great videos coming. Thank you!

[@BakersGas]

Thank you for watching! We visited the Miller Appleton, WI facility this year and it was impressive to see the machines assembled! Both are really nice welders and the value is there on the Lincoln! You will not go wrong either way. Let us know if we can help.

[@wvjeepguy8178]

The Hobart Ironman 240 used to be found on sale a couple of years ago for around $1600 ....now up to $2200.

[@JeffAboularage]

Made in America is important to me.

[@williamthomas9463]

It appears to me, that you sir, are very biased towards the Miller. What you’re stating that Lincoln is new to the 211 market, is just a thinly veiled attempt to draw an uninformed consumer away from how much better the Lincoln is equipped than the Miller. Not to mention that Lincoln has already sold a gazillion 210MP’s over the past 8-10 years. It appears to me that the 211i is almost identical to the 210MP with the exception that it is not multi-process and is rated at 10% MORE duty cycle. Lastly, Lincoln’s customer service is second to none!

[@BakersGas]

What department at Lincoln do you work in :) haha just kidding we support them both and we get a ton of questions and requests to show them side by side.

[@williamthomas9463]

Don’t actually. I pay full price for mine and use them all myself. Actually, I just bought a 330MPX and while I love how it and the Activ8x work, I ain’t real thrilled with the engineering of the rest of it.

[@norminatorrr]

I don’t hear bias.

[@jordanedwards3066]

@@williamthomas9463Miller any day that Miller is made in the USA 🇺🇸 that Lincoln is not

[@Goodfella81]

Miller makes the best welding machines.

I like all the fancy stuff but most welders never look at setting. Most welders dial in a rough setting and test weld and then we just bump the wire speed of voltage nob a bit and the fancy digital we would not look at and would just bump it. Stay away form welders with button adjustments as its a pain in the ass to not just bump a knob.

[@wurlabyscott]

They hold the same size wire weight?

[@BakersGas]

Yes same size wire will fit both 8 inch spool or 11# wire

[@georgef1176]

Hey why does my Norton 360 virus protection on my phone and my computer tell me your site is unsafe??? When you did your latest site upgrade it didn’t flag your site for a few weeks then it just started doing it again? I’m afraid to order off it.

[@BakersGas]

Hey, we did update our site and we have some more tools I can say it is safe but feel free to call us if you would like to order that way

[@replyhere590]

Be fair, that would've been better as a phone call or email. Frequently, problems like that are unrelated to any sort of virus, etc. I hope Baker did respond quickly to the first report though, best way to stop rumors, etc. And by the way, I bought my first PC in 1984, and a few years later, Norton Utilities totally crashed one of my disks, which they begrudgingly admitted was their fault. Not the most trustworthy program on the planet. And by the way, it took them two weeks of expensive, non-toll free, phone calls to get around to that.

[@georgef1176]

I did call baker and Norton two times. Norton flags for certain trackers. Norton said it’s probably phishing? Idk Baker site is probably fine. I’ve sense ordered with no problems. It was just odd to me cause it did it on the old baker site. Then they did site update and Norton didn’t flag for 2-3 weeks then it started flagging. Idk I’m not a computer guy unless it’s auto

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Norton is more of a virus than anything you're going to come across on the internet.

[@truthserum9157]

@@georgef1176LOL😂 the same guys that make the programs, make the viruses.

[@Grey-ke9gd]

Miller out dated pretty sad the 80's are long gone!!!

[@jvmiller1995]

Buy a Everlast 211 and get 100 x more machine. Mig tig stick with everything to get going. Way more Machine.

[@BakersGas]

haha no one will work on an Everlast though :)

[@jvmiller1995]

@@BakersGas They have great customer service. I loaned mine to a friend who tried using it on a tiny 110V drop cord, besides resetting the breaker 20 time he kept using it and it knocked a board out in the power supply on the low current side. It would run on 220 just fine but not 110v. I called them up... they told me what they thought it was and said I can send it to them or they can send me a part. I was on the phone maybe 5 minutes and they answered my first call and sent me to the tech department. I got the part in 3 days and it was fixed perfect never had another issue. Point is I could by 3 green machines for one blue or red of equal size. The repair was super easy. Every board in them are plug and play. year warranty too. I have used mine a bunch and if not for stupidity from my friend it would never ever went down. I also broke the plastic dust cover that goes over the controls on the face of the machine do to my own stupidity of leaving it open and swinging a piece of iron into it. I emailed them to buy a replacement the next day I got a reply one was on the way. No charge. So say what you want the truth is they have great customer service!!!!!!!!! I have owned both Lincoln and Miller in the past and I have welded professionally and used more machines than I can count. I love my green Everlast. I am retired hobby welder now but I use it a lot and I have no doubt it would handle production welding. So keep laughing and I will keep the extra thousands I saved. I do realize you are a dealer of red and blue too.

[@bobd1805]

Too bad the Miller doesn't have a digital readout.

[@BakersGas]

maybe one day!

[@georgef1176]

It’s just not worth spending the money when these Chinese manufacturers have stepped up there game. I bought my Lincoln 210mp 6 years ago for 1000 after rebate. I sold it for 1900 few weeks ago. Bought 2 machines everlast and new multi from ahp. Way happier to have separate 250amp water cooled ac/dc tig machine and multi mig when I need it. The ahp is just as nice as the 210mp.

[@BakersGas]

The challenge is finding parts and service support for those machines. They are priced really low but no support in the event you need it. (The benefits of buying Lincoln or Miller is that there are a ton of centers and support)

[@georgef1176]

I have not broke yet but that was definitely a worry I had. But everlast has great support now. They have came a long way. They even said they ship me the parts if I wanted to fix it myself. Ahp is everlast brand as well. I have definitely herd stories of people shipping machines to get warranty work and they are gone for 6months back few years ago. I will say I never broke my Lincoln 210mp either.

[@replyhere590]

@@georgef1176 Considering how modular everything is these days, DIY repair makes a lot of sense. I don't mind saving the company money by installing parts myself with their guidance, if it saves a ton of time on shipping, depot service, etc. I've also heard some horror stories about Miller keeping machines for three months, though I think some of that was related to the supply chain issues of the pandemic. Reading KZbin comments, while sorting out the ones that are fanboy propaganda, BS or just angry attack, is a big learning experience for me as I decide on buying a welder. The real learning to me is in the comments. Shoot me bad grammar and bad spelling, and I'll ignore you. Stupid implies stupid. If someone doesn't even care enough to make their corrections in their comments, frequently resulting in unreadable, they are worth being ignored. Besides, it's just plain rude not to edit your comments. Rant mode off.

[@TravisSmithTDH]

Until you’re in a pinch & you can’t get consumables asap. I am a AHP and everlast owner as well. It can be frustrating. I only buy everlast consumables for the plasma cutter & i swapped my torch on the AHP to use CK parts.

[@damiaolucena5099]

Uau

[@jimlebiedz5723]

What you failed to mention is on the Lincoln, if any part of that display fails, you will have to replace the entire display unit at what cost? Sometimes simple is better! I have a Miller 212 and for years it has never failed me. Not sure how robust that slick LCD display with stand up to shop environment over time. My 2 cents worth.

[@BakersGas]

Good point! We love simple! Thanks for watching and for the input!

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Or go with a Hobart 210mvp and never have to worry about any of that stuff.

[@JeffAboularage]

I was taught from the beginning never to rely on the displays on the machine.. Test run on a piece of scrap metal and go from there.. For me, and this is my experience.. Having the drive rolls on the Lincoln gumming up constantly, and the displays not be what is actually being put out, I will go with the Miller all day.

[@wyo_garage20]

@@wvjeepguy8178But Hobarts are absolute junk

[@wvjeepguy8178]

@@wyo_garage20 nope....they're simple machines but they last forever. Zero issues out of mine after 10 years of use.