Tracing the Roots of Pop Culture Transphobia

[@ContraPoints]

Raise your hand if you have ever been personally victimized by Lindsay Ellis

[@umber8904]

oh my GOD lmfao!

[@moonfestal]

**raises hand**

[@juliadandy6019]

Lindsay Ellis MUST BE STOPPED!

[@catthegreatest9365]

🙋‍♀️ Also hi I love your midnight streams they help to alleviate my moon-fueled zoomies

[@chibiktsn3]

I mean, she is a menace.

[@DAngeloWallace]

"Think of the children" I did! I don't care ❤

[@engraverarnold9416]

the fact nobody has seen this 😂

[@hicham4635]

King.

[@pastelmermage8883]

the king has landed

[@gracewhitene3912]

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[@doublendoublet]

“[passive aggressive message] ❤️” is so funny; why?

[@darkstar2874]

Can we address the whole “someone legit thought ‘death of the author’ meant people literally wanted to kill Joanne” thing? Because I’m not done laughing about that

[@elizabethdunbar7364]

Ten flies went in my mouth cuz it was open so long in disbelief at that. Eventually a horrified half laugh popped out.

[@mirrana491]

People be dumb

[@geckovonparsley8200]

That's not what the message said though. They thought Ellis misconstrued what JKR said, and asked how she'd feel if they misconstrued her "death of the author" video the same way. That point is moot, because Lindsay Ellis quite accurately interpreted what JKR said... But I think we need to address that, what they actually said, or we'll come off as wilfully misunderstanding them.

[@rosalynnejames6346]

@@geckovonparsley8200 Fair. It was a good laugh, though.

[@wuzzle5261]

"Trans-panic puke walked so attack helicopter could fly." Like you've had quite a few great one-liners in this video already, but holy fuck that killed me.

[@GuiSmith]

The culmination of centuries of language development led to this joke.

[@lazersaurus3942]

"You don't have to write the accent in Joanne, we get that you hate poor people" is the greatest thing that will be said this year.

[@CosmosCompletion]

God and its so true I love it

[@KimperialMarch]

Harry's reactions are priceless.

[@rickc2102]

I like to think of it as, JKR still thinks she's as important as Dickens.

[@robelkton7800]

The only thing I remember from reading the Harry Potter books was the time she tried to show off using the word "gerrymander" in a way that didn't really make sense

[@SiRenfield]

@@CosmosCompletion PO

[@bearvanhelsing6035]

One trans character portrayal that really surprised me was in Twin Peaks when Cooper realized that his buddy from the FBI had transitioned and is surprised at first but then immediately smiles and corrects himself and calls her by her new name and pronouns. Just a really sweet moment that caught me off guard in an episode from 1991.

[@gothgrrl8711]

teh way they handled that character in the new series was also great

[@Kermthefrog]

If I recall correctly, David Lynch pretty much said transphobes should die in season 3 too lol.

[@bearvanhelsing6035]

@@gothgrrl8711 I'm watching through the series for the first time rn with my sister. I'm excited to hear she's in the new series!! 🖤

[@mike-dv7sn]

david lynch is a king

[@cheesecakelasagna]

@@Kermthefrog lmao what a king of redemption arc. is this true tho? I actually been meaning to watch the show for years.

[@Crypt-Kitty]

"Think of the children" When I was a child I was terrified my dad would AT BEST never talk to me again if I came out.

[@alianar.d.8724]

I'm going through that very situation right now except it's me being bi :'D. I get so happy when any LGBTQ+ rep happens inside media

[@SamSullyV]

That's kind of the irony isn't it? As a person who works with young people, I care about trans rights specifically because I "care about the children". Watching people I care about suffer is why this is such a big issue to me. I hope everything has worked out for you.

[@Crypt-Kitty]

@@SamSullyV It really is, everytime I hear that argument I automatically think of the trans children honestly lol. And yeah everything worked out. :)

[@Crypt-Kitty]

@@alianar.d.8724 Sorry to hear you're in a bad spot, I've been there too. I wish you the best.

[@jellyjilli1004]

"Think of the children" people are only thinking about themselves. Probably they don't even see children as people who can understand concepts but as props or even wrost, extensions of themselves. Anyway... it's a tough world from day 1 for those of us who are wrong for just existing (wrong for some people's perspectives I mean LOL)

[@muticere]

So I watched "Some Like it Hot" based largely on the positive recommendation here and wow, that movie is so gay. Like, gay in a way I never could have expected given the time period. And sure, I don't want to read too much into it, I know the gay elements are likely in there as gags and not meant to be taken seriously. But on the other hand, a man pretending to be a woman falls in love with a man overtly, like, under no uncertain terms, he is completely in love. Then when the other man realizes that the man in drag is actually a man, is left 100% unfazed by this and still wants to be with him. Hella gay in 1959.

[@akeylawallace4420]

I recommend looking into pre-code films. Shit's super gay as well.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

And the fact that the other man is only initially confused before deciding to accept it is also nice.

[@nightshade616]

That reminds me of my recollection of Ace Ventura. Because I watched it first when I was really young, I understood the plot as Finkle "being a man" to mean that he was disguised and was seeking a position of power in the police to get revenge, because I didn't even know what Trans people were. Then when I discovered trans people existed...I still never made the connection that Finkle was supposed to be a reference to Trans people. The plot still in my head was still basically a bad guy "going under cover" and taking advantage of the bullshit lack of accountability and huge amount of power police have over our society to use his new disguise and position for revenge.

[@meyes5671]

It's unbelievably progressive considering the time period it was made. And the comedy actually holds up.

[@joselocalau123]

the romance between Lemon and the boat dude is actually so sweet and funny. i don't know why but it feels very well meaning. My favorite scene is when they juxtapose the romantic kissing scene between Marilyn Monroe and Tony Curtis with them dancing till there's nobody else on the dance floor to some tango

[@TheNellyChannel]

i can't get over that she wrote "deafening fart" in her "serious" "adult" book

[@Shoulderpads-mcgee]

It’s driving me mad actually

[@destroying4ngel]

THIS OMG I THOUGHT THAT WAS HBOMB TROLLING AT FIRST

[@syddomann3054]

Andrzej Sapkowski did it in The Witcher books too and it's absolutely wild

[@Amitlu]

@@syddomann3054 Wait who farted?

[@jazzymoth]

You forgot the quotation marks over "book"

[@CinemaWins]

"All movies are bad." I...you have a point.

[@MrBansheeownage]

I didn't expect to see you in a random comment but since I did, I'll just say your channel is a breath of fresh air! It's way more fun to like things instead of look for things to dislike, and the world could use more positivity and optimism. Your videos are like comfort-food. So thank you, and keep doing what you're doing (for as long as you want to, of course)!

[@gabrielblank98]

“I don’t... I don’t really like movies.”

[@papersonic9941]

All Movies Are Bastards

[@antonvinther31]

Except Tarkovsky's version of Solaris. That is a piece of beautiful art.

[@lemmonboy6459]

You make good videos :) Love what you do ❤️

[@hbomberguy]

I'm hungry

[@dstinnettmusic]

How does it feel to be overshadowed by Jenny Nicholson again? Kidding, your bit in this video was great too. Just not as iconic as Jenny’s fake British accent.

[@Patrick-Phelan]

FOR DONUTS?

[@realsonofmars]

Hi Hungry! Its me, Dad.

[@dudeist_priest]

Would you like a delicious egg?

[@glebbokhan9777]

@@realsonofmars dad jokes intensifies

[@ladams5515]

I agree with the "think of the children" argument- kids should be shielded from adults who teach them to fear and hate people for arbitrary reasons.

[@GBfanatic15]

alternative response to that: YES DO THINK OF THE CHILDREN, let them grow up seeing themselves represented in media, trans kids do exist, just like gay kids exist

[@takumirodriguez1358]

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie

[@Jordan-kq3qw]

Also we must shield them from the influences of Witchcraft and Wizardry. Surely this is the most heinous of influences on their poor impressionable minds.

[@takumirodriguez1358]

@@keikei2942 oh really, why is that? Is it simply because you don't actually care about the women in suppossive danger and are simply transphobic?

[@mr.x2567]

Sometimes I think kids should be shielded from adults in general.

[@petebyrdie4799]

In Britain at least, long ago, 'think of the mixed race children being bullied in the playground,' was used as an argument against mixed race marriage.

[@ForrestFox626]

We are a stupid species

[@jen4k2]

That is literally what my mother told me when I asked her about dating black guys when I was a young, impressionable Millennial child. At least I could smell the bullsh*t even then, I knew first hand that kids don't need a reason to bully other kids.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Isn't that just tragic martyr conservative Christian style shit? It's so obvious they're death cultists. They think being dead is better than being mixed race or poor or trans or autistic or anything other than """normal""".

[@jen4k2]

@@FelisImpurrator -- SIIIIIIIIGH, yeaaaaah. A Quaker friend of mine has a lovely rant about that. It boils down to the fact there is a huge element among conservative Evangelicals who are just *aching* to be persecuted and they're just... *not.* What's happening is that said conservative Evangelicals act like a-holes and are *shocked,* *shocked* when they get pushback -- which they then perceive as persecution. So they double-down. And then we sane Christians say, "You're not being persecuted, you're acting like an a-hole and being treated like one. Stop being a Bad Witness."

[@stevegruber4724]

@@jen4k2 I was evangelical-curious in high school and looking back I realize that being like Jesus and focusing on how Jesus and the apostles were persecuted was a big part of it. I don't remember anyone explicitly saying "we are being persecuted," but the desire to be the underdog was there.

[@desigreen1916]

Having to hide the charity you will be donating to because of a Fanfic Author's vengeance and litigious nature. This scenario seems like a fever dream.

[@Roseforthethorns]

God 2020 was /wild/.

[@zinkheroofyoutube8004]

That sounds like a good fanfic

[@JustKrin]

@@zinkheroofyoutube8004 I was just about to write that!!! That's a great story to write about. The hero who has to hide their charity because evil corporate writer Madis... I mean, random baddie wants to sue everything you love

[@dleopardxlswondrousmusings9053]

The fan fiction deep state is thick.

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@dleopardxlswondrousmusings9053 Thick with 3 Qs

[@LachlanHatfield]

I love how we have Jenny Nicholson doing more voice acting

[@pizmeyre5055]

Agreed!

[@jodajoda2863]

Back to her Friendship is Witchcraft roots

[@esc_mike3546]

Her "Billionaire British Karen" is spot on

[@carolinej3074]

I'm ten minutes in and it just clicked for me that Jenny is Joanne and I was like she's back!!! her Karen impressions really are unmatched

[@joshyoung2659]

It's the superhero teamup we need.

[@alexandercolin8233]

Harry's boggart is a dementor, Neville's is professor Snape and Rowlings boggart is without a doubt an overweight transwoman.

[@skylarjohnson7779]

@Gabe Davis and that is why Snape is a bad guy and is not redeemable because Lily dumped him for calling her a racial slur. Fight me, Joanne.

[@JuneNafziger]

@@skylarjohnson7779 exactly, if a CHILD’S (well young teen but still) greatest fear is one of their fucking teachers the teacher is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC.

[@pollywatson8099]

@Gabe Davis and how does joanne decide to make Snape Boggart funny (~because you defeat a boggart by laughing at it~) if not with the *timeless* "haha it's funny cause it's a man in a dress" gag

[@bethanymcmurtrey9542]

Trust me, if Chris Columbus's first choice for the role, Tim Roth, hadn't turned it down in favor of the villain in 2000's Planet of the Apes, we would not be having this morality quandary 15 years later.

[@Tareltonlives]

@oh darn, it’s me bRaVEsT mAN Harry ever kneww11!!!11

[@ankyfire]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN Well, when I was a child (ok, not super young, but around 10-11 I think), an aunt who lived far away visited. She started talking about her daughter, and I got very confused, because I was sure she had a son. My auntie kinda brushed it off, but my mom talked to me later and explained that yeah, she had a son, but he felt he was a woman, so he had a special surgery and now he was a woman. I pretty much said “oh, ok” and proceeded to ask more technical questions about the surgery. Children aren’t dumb. Children aren’t prejudiced. And what argument it is... bigots are denying people their comfort and safety because they don’t want to talk to their kids? For literally TWO MINUTES?

[@somedamnfangirl]

Yep. :/

[@ExeErdna]

That's basically the source of MOST problems people have because their parents are "too busy" to talk to their kids. They can't hang for legit 2 mins and fix the problem, instead they make'em worse and take up more time.

[@mewho8057]

making parents parent their kids is so mean

[@beardedartisan]

Whenever someone says "how am I supposed to explain this to my kids?", I always feel like they're really saying "I can't explain this to my kids because I don't understand it myself". They've long ago accepted that they should just be prejudiced against certain things, and they're aware that their kids are going to ask them why, and they're not sure what the answer is. They're not scared of talking to their children, they're scared of examining their own thoughts.

[@somedamnfangirl]

@@beardedartisan Exactly

[@JanPospisilArt]

Wow, crazy how this was accidentally flagged for no reason. A true mystery.

[@RezValla]

It makes me want to howl

[@soulcstudios]

@@RezValla A Woooooo

[@elinewllms]

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[@senseisleepyhead]

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[@joshualeahy2162]

@@soulcstudios Awoooo

[@timothylim803]

This is the first time i see “do not google” on screen and actually heed it.

[@Eviltwin531]

I did. *I'm Boo Boo The Fool*

[@No-hf1xq]

@@Eviltwin531 me neither, but I'm pretty much desensitized to these sorts of stuff thanks to edgy friends showing me stuff from liveleak from like 14 and I really don't know what I should be thinking about it

[@lulucanpy3513]

I have a morbid curiosity

[@Eviltwin531]

@@lulucanpy3513 Objectively, they're not too horrible (I mean, it looks like a piece of old leather in the shape of a face. Think of the Michael Myers Halloween mask,) I think it's mostly knowing *where* they came from that make it really unsettling.

[@lulucanpy3513]

@@Eviltwin531 I haven't actually done it yet so thanks for the head's up :)

[@rhorybader4054]

Once upon a time, I knew a group of four, very large (shortest was 6'4") black transsexuals. They were called the Gay Mafia (ostensibly it would have been offensive, but they liked the nickname and kept it). They were good Catholic girls (MTF trans, in case this is unclear, I am using the correct pronouns and all). They were poor, they relied on prostitution to get by. They often had social diseases as a result. But they still went to Church, and they were still good and kind people. Those girls saved my mother's life once, at the Catholic Outreach, where they would go to get clothes and Church assistance (you had to have a referral from a social worker to get most things, but you could get clothes and some cheap food free, bread and fruits and whatnot). My mother, God rest her soul, was one of the only people who treated them like.. Y'know, people. She'd help them pick out dresses. She'd help them find matching shoes, in their sizes. She'd help them find nice hats. And sturdy purses. She was almost as much their mother as she was mine, because she didn't judge them (she did occasionally refer to them as 'wayward children of God' but that was because she disapproved of the prostitution, a proper New England middle class almost-blueblood like her saw it as terribly un-ladylike) she just helped them as was both Right and Godly. A gang banger came to the Outreach one day, mom had turned away his "bitch" because she did not have a referral to get all she wanted. He put a gun in my mother's face. Then the girls showed up, and I don't care how tough you think a gun makes you, when you're 5'6" surrounded by several well built people almost a foot taller than you, you get nervous. They disarmed the damned fool, cleared his gun and threw it away, then picked him up, carried him to the Rite Aid down the block, took off their pumps, and began doing their Sunday Church dance routines all over his skeleton. Poor bastard got literally stomped for almost twenty minutes before the cops finally broke it up. They were not jailed or prosecuted for doing this, since it's hard to argue that "four large black 'men' protecting a gaggle of mostly elderly white women from some shithead with a loaded gun" is a "bad" thing. They were good people. They should have gotten a commendation and a news article. But since this was Georgia, and the deep south no less, that didn't happen. It still angers me if I think about it. They were good people, and should have been given much deserved publicity for it.

[@steinistein8611]

Thank you for telling this story. This way it lives on and I can tell it to other people.

[@tortis6342]

What an interesting story.

[@rhorybader4054]

@@tortis6342 Funniest part was how the cops just kinda.. Stood there and watched for, perhaps, a bit longer than they should have. "We should do something about this." "Yes, yes we should. Let me figure out what, first."

[@d0ubl3d]

@@rhorybader4054 rare cop w

[@TheTGOAC]

Violence is ok when the right people do it.

[@cat_strangler2603]

I love Hbomberguy's little introjections of disgust. He's really voicing what we're all thinking

[@strawbebbiejam]

his passionate "whAT the FUCK" cracks me up

[@altosaxophonie]

HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS

[@scottrosnick5145]

HBomberguy, Everyman. ... and... every not-man. Not EVERY man but still every man.

[@emmametos6301]

"Think of the children" and "protect the children" roughly translates to "how can we maintain the status quo if children know that (insert marginalized category here) people are people?!"

[@BreakingStubad]

those damn babies

[@Rmuda]

When they talk about that, I think what they fear most is people they care about - their children in particular - being outcast from straight, cis, society. However, instead of managing to realise that the society itself is the problem for trying to pretend these people don't exist, or are 'mislead', or are 'evil', they are more willing to blame those brave enough to stand out for causing the social divisions that were once apparently implicit to become explicit. Of course, they were never implicit in the first place, such movements were just so thoroughly under the boot of hetero and cis normativity that you could ignore them if you tried hard enough. They fear the 'change', of gay and trans activists propagating a culture war against straight cis people as retaliation for the one carried out against them for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Through this lens, they see things like pride marches and media representation as challenges to be met against, hence the straight pride parades, or the accusations of over-representation. They seem to be under the impression that these are efforts to force straight, cis people out of the streets and off television, and the aforementioned responses are often carried out with the explicit aim of doing the same to LGBTQ+ people. This is also why they accuse institutions of 'special treatment' and hypocriscy when they get into trouble for spewing hateful bile, because their victim complexes are such that LGBTQ+ people existing in public is a threat to their own existence. Most of all they, fear that these changes could estrange them from their children, who they see as their legacy. Never once do they realise that if they have the misfortune of bearing any closeted LGBTQ+ children, or even just children who are better, kinder souls than them, then they have already estranged them through their own bigotry.

[@JohnnyProctor9]

Which is why I'm utterly ecstatic about there being so much positive LGBT representation in children's and family media these days, let's keep it coming and hope for more!

[@theaceofswords]

this is the best way i’ve ever seen it put!

[@gazingatsaturn]

@@strategghost1270 except the foster system has a direct effect on kids, which could be detrimental, whereas gender and sexual education and representation won't hurt anyone ??? those two things don't even correlate. _where is the point?_

[@Sicknessgaming7]

I love Hbomberguy slowly breaking down the more he reads quotes from the book.

[@Ringothetankengine-qy1vl]

It’s a Hbomb tradition

[@scootinand]

"Huh, she's gone the whole video withou-" "LIKE THE PHANTOM" "Ah. There it is."

[@DewMan001]

I always thought Disney was Lindsey's trend... Apparently I need to dig a little deeper into her back catalogue

[@o0Avalon0o]

She obviously mentioned it as a quick joke but it made me happy all the same. 😁

[@tiffanyferg]

watched this when it came out but I’m coming back to comment for the algorithm!!! hello KZbin this is fantastic content plz stop flagging it

[@Mer_girl]

I love your videos ❣️

[@ellagage1256]

Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "COCK PENIS" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series” “Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards"

[@ashtongaskill3980]

Same! Great video that deserves better than YT gave it.

[@IzumiCurtiss]

Hey there tiff! Love you!

[@alexaaragon21]

Loving how everyone is coming out of the woodwork to re-engage with video

[@trissylegs]

"Transexuals are very passive" I DONT NEED THE CALLOUT Clarice.

[@DanaTheInsane]

I’ll be sure to remember how passive I’m supposed to be on my next trip to the gun store.

[@leiram8833]

It's passive aggressive for me.

[@SparklyDream]

@@irrelevantweirdo6347 I'm not trans, but I wonder what a trans perspective of the idea of someone 'wrongfully thinking that they are trans' would be. To me it seems dismissive and transphobic, cause I have a hard time seeing how someone could be said to be wrong about their own gender identity. Not to say that people's gender identity can't evolve or that people themselves can't feel confused about their gender identity. But for others to say that someone else just 'thinks' that they are trans, seems like a damaging idea

[@heatherrockwell9012]

​@@SparklyDream Hello! Trans person speaking, and I can offer a brief opinion (which obviously is just mine, and not indicative of the community) of how I see this. In my opinion, the idea of "thinking you're trans but not being trans" is indeed a transphobic idea- except in the case where that person's perception of reality is already so skewed that their opinions on other things (like their own sanity) can't be trusted. In regards to Buffalo Bill, if he were portrayed as a remotely stable individual, it would seem as if Lecter and everyone else were just being asshats, but since we see how unhinged he is, we trust that he can't be relied upon to portray his mental state. Basically, this very specific instance is okay-ish, but it's not good to set as a standard. It's a bit like that question that gets thrown around, "Would it be ethical to have sex with a minor if their mind were that of someone X years older." Can you answer is in regards to the hypothetical? Certainly. Is it a question that really has any bearing on reality? Not really, no, and it probably indicates something less than good about the person who feels the need to ask it. In other words, it's probably accurate to say that Buffalo Bill isn't trans- but the real world doesn't exactly have many Buffalo Bills.

[@parkerwalker377]

@@heatherrockwell9012 i, another transgender person, couldn’t have said it better myself. beautifully worded

[@MegaChickenfish]

1:55 I still cannot believe this argument still exists. From the moment it first cropped up I realized "hey, guys, you do realize gay people exist, right? You've been in restrooms with people attracted to your sex your whole lives and it hasn't been an issue."

[@garlgarlic]

TERFs and other reactionaries will chase lesbians out of the bathrooms too, especially if they look “too androgynous”.

[@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou]

It's been less than two decades since it was mainstream to fearmonger the same thing about gay people, yeah. They were saying it about them since the fifties but people want to pretend that transphobia is both unique and okay.

[@Oturan20]

I try to avoid using Public restrooms, but for reasons not related to bigotry.

[@timothymclean]

You say that like most transphobes happily accept gay people.

[@aw2584]

TBH the way I always heard this point was women (who bizarrely enough seem more transphobic than men in my experience) being scared of someone whos biologically male in the women's restroom. Which is confusing since... how a public restroom is any more dangerous than any other place? You go to your cubical, lock yourself in, then exit. Do they think that you're at your most vulnerable when washing your hands? You won't be able to get away from the attacker due to your hands being slippery with soap? Or that because its the shitter people will just magically ignore you fighting for your life and yell for help because they'll just assume you're just having a huge struggle crap?

[@JeremyCoatney]

I enjoy that you kept the take where HBomberGuy says he didn’t think the bits he was going to be reading would be as bad as they are.

[@snowstrobe]

Had the same response when someone read me a passage from Fifty Shades. Seriously.

[@StreifelXP]

"Trans panic puked walked, so attack helicopter could fly." I would wear that one a shirt.

[@opheliacparadox]

Same

[@basedbattledroid3507]

And then Apache attack Helicopter flew so 'it's ma'am" could plummet into the ground

[@doggyspeak]

new feud merch when?

[@annemarietobias]

She puts the "Me" in "Meme"!!!

[@zqfmgb4335]

Now I'm imagining a vomit-soaked Apache flying around messily like a drunk mosquito.

[@1Rekuiem]

"trans panic puke walked so attack helicopter could fly" Amazing line

[@Theracooninyourbasement]

Your profile picture is absolutely amazing

[@FeministCatwoman]

@@Theracooninyourbasement Since you pointed it out, I have to give you and the Op a like.

[@amazingabby25]

Steamed hams?

[@1Rekuiem]

@@amazingabby25 Yes, its a regional dialect.

[@4ll3sb4n4n3]

@@amazingabby25 Old family recipe

[@elizabethgatchell4546]

The thing I hate about the “Trans people in prison” segment, these people didn’t care about prison rape UNTIL they could use it to further their agenda.

[@Sera-F1nn]

And that's the case with every one of their argument, too. They don't give a single shit about women's sports either, yet here they are, pretending that trans women are destroying women's competitions.

[@hyawill8944]

@@honkstheclown8631 It is Hyacinth :)

[@hyawill8944]

@@honkstheclown8631 After doing my own "research" my conclusion is quite close to what ContraPoints is stating currently about gender identity, gender. Though I would question what her Gender Feeling is about? I think the whole gender/gender identity theory as it is presented by "Your side" is absurd. Some preaching words: According to my observations I become easily frustrated and aggressive. But I don't like that trait about me. Feelings about my traits constitute what my identity is? Or maybe I just feel bad about the part of my identity, which is being easily frustrated and becoming aggressive? Or maybe both things - actual description of me and my feelings about it - constite my identity? So if I observe that I have a penis, my body is very muscular, I have tendency to become aggressive quite easily, I have a beard, I have a low voice, but I don't like those traits about me and I wish I had a female body parts and personality traits stereotypically called feminine? What is my identity then? Feelings over observations of my actual behaviour, my reactions? Let's say I don't like my skin tone and I wish I was born with a darker skin tone. Let's say I don't like my culture but I wish I was a part of a given distant culture. Do those things make me i.e. transracial? Or maybe one should think is there a good reason for having such feelings. Maybe there is nothing essential behind those feelings? Maybe brains don't inherit and don't create under an influence of hormones any circuits that are responsible tor feeling bad about own body observable sex traits or own skin tone?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

See also people who want to ENCOURAGE prison rape to deter potential criminals, and people who use prison rape as justification for letting rapists off on minor sentences.

[@Rhaenarys]

Exactly.

[@marcusclaudius266]

I appreciate Hbomberguy's editorializing of the passages he's reading.

[@strayiggytv]

Same I love him being like 'what?' over the shit grammer in that section lol

[@lauramax93]

Oh I was right?! 😂 That gave me a giggle x

[@lyokhamishukov3513]

Him laughing his head off at Sargon for not having read the book is what i needed today

[@annnee6818]

I honest to god love his voice. I'd buy an audio book of him reading the telephone directory.

[@petermercurio9415]

Hbomerguy makes me feel less bad about my thinning hair. At first I really didn't like him now he's one of my fav youtubers. Esp after his crying during his Mermaids charity steam stream and AOC voter fraud joke said to her.

[@epultric5007]

Harry and Ron managed to get into the girls bathroom without much trouble. Really makes you think.

[@frozenweevil4022]

Joanne.... I have bad news for you...

[@Brynwyn123]

@@frozenweevil4022 Harry was short for Harriet

[@uriah4491]

That there was a ghost in the bathroom scaring everyone away?

[@pinotnoir4234]

lmao how the fuck did I forget about that 🤣

[@arrenshepperd6146]

Ignoring that boys can´t go to the girl´s Dormitory but Girls can go to the boys.

[@MasterCrest]

I always think, if you're an aspiring sex offender and would fancy attacking someone on a beautiful thursday evening in your favorite gas station restroom, why put on make-up and women's clothing to do so? Like, how would this make anything easier? Don't they know how hard it is to get rid of that make-up once you're done? Don't they know how uncomfortable convincing drag is? I'm sorry but if years of watching drag race has taught me ANYTHING it's that looking fish is so hard, any sex offender would lose interest halfway through and just choke somebody in a dark alley behind McDonald's like a normal psychopath

[@mathewfinch]

It's like when the reich-wingers tried to scare us by saying that terrorists would try and infiltrate the US with the Syrian refugees, submitting themselves to a long and arduous legal process that would be closely monitored by government officials. Rather than just getting a tourists visa, which would be way easier.

[@madisonrhall]

OP really said "like a normal psychopath" LMFAO

[@BlindErephon]

Yeah, I try hard to not be a scary dude, but seriously...... Nobody is safe in public restrooms. The shit cubby isnt a Fortress of Solitude. Its a box open on the top and a flimsy door, assuming some person who's had Taco Bell didn't rip it off in a frenzy. Any asshole can just walk in, its literally for the public. There aren't like armed guards and if you are using the bathroom alone or at a period where nobody is around, you are pretty vulnerable. No need to wear a dress or do paperwork, you can creep on people just any old time. The social contract is a flimsy illusionary construct, you are only as safe as you feel, smash the state, etc. ONLY use a public restroom the way God intended. To solicit covert and anonymous sex via glory hole.

[@leoseling4413]

@@nt78stonewobble What are you even talking about... Are you trying to say that there are drag queens who are also sex offenders? Because that is a completely meaningless point, like, of course there are, sex offenders could be anyone. Also, there aren't that many drag queens, so that even smaller group of drag queen sex offenders is so unimportant to this discussions, or really, most discussions.

[@nicholasbreslin5130]

I know this will likely just get lost (like a turd... in the wind...) and that there are assistants reading this message, but I wanted to express my appreciation for all of the good that Lindsay Ellis has put into the world. It is easy to criticize and name-call. It is difficult to research and present an intelligent opinion.

[@soulknight5330]

The Venom reference is wonderful

[@tortis6342]

"like a turd... in the wind"

[@andreacalisi4699]

As a nineties kid, seeing all these scenes from familiar movies/franchises lined up one after the other after the other, really drove the message home that I (we?) was indoctrinated as a kid.

[@roberthalkes9981]

The bathroom thing is super weird to me, because JKR herself wrote an entire subplot about a bunch of cis-boys hanging around in a girl's bathroom with zero consequences

[@alexmuller6752]

not zero consequences: both harry and cedric profit mightily from their encounters with myrtle

[@swanpride]

It's weird to me because I am not that fussed about the whole bathroom thing anyway. Personally I think our bathroom designs are completely outdated, and that there should be one bathroom for all genders, with one extra room at one side for the urinals and one extra room at the other side for changing diapers. That would solve a lot of problems at once. For one, women with male children would no longer have to make the difficult decision which bathroom they should used, two fathers could change their babies without having to worry if there is an extra-space for this, three it would most likely improve the flow of people going to the bathroom. And if someone peeks over the stalls, that person is a pervert, no matter what gender. I mean, who tells me that no other women is peeking at me in my supposedly save space?

[@eevee6930]

@@swanpride I completely agree with this. Gendered bathrooms are so outdated.

[@keltzar1]

Complete with a major element of Moaning Myrtle loving to spy on boys in the bathroom, thus being an exact inversion of the thing Rowling is so scared of.

[@KatharineOsborne]

@@swanpride the stalls should have floor to ceiling doors. There’s no reason for the gap, just put an ‘engaged’ thing on the outside of the lock. Two of my recent workplaces had gender neutral bathrooms and it wasn’t weird, but it was more convenient/faster (also cleaner). Also stalls should have their own sinks, and all should be sized for wheelchairs. Inclusiveness for all!

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

I am Team LindsayNatalie! People who are Team WynnEllis also make good points! If this take is too hot for you, I don't care.

[@cremetangerine82]

I salute you and wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

[@arigadatred5395]

This take is exactly the right temperature and just what I was thinking.

[@mattherman4371]

Nice to see you around these parts prof

[@paulocontreras]

Is this the profesor or the instructor?

[@kaemonbonet4931]

How dare you, what are you suggesting? We could buy both pins? Preposterous. This is a fued!

[@eraseandreplace]

Something that has always bothered me about the bathroom argument is that we don't live in a world where there's some security guard checking IDs or certificates before you enter a bathroom. If a man wanted to enter a bathroom to do crimes against women, he could easily do so without even having to dress even remotely femininely.

[@lorrainemcgrail6315]

Yup and they do, women get assaulted in women's bathrooms by men all the time. The bathroom argument is bogus. The people who make it are just trying to rationalize their own discomfort at being around trans people.

[@troyjardine5850]

I swear conservatives are getting desperate. In Florida the conservatives passed a bill that would require a genital inspection for high school and college athletes. It's just another disgusting display of transphobia and policing people's bodies.

[@liliks14]

it's not about the rational possibility of something like this happening itself , and it's not even about trans people . i think it's about actual straight men abusing the bathroom law to do their ugly deed. sorry but i understand the fear . i just find it sad that trans people have to suffer the backlash of it that's all . but i don't feel like downplaying the concerns of others ( everyone deserves to be heard ), who am I to judge that said concern is legitimate or not ? but that's just me

[@eraseandreplace]

@@liliks14 i understand the concern of being assaulted in a public space like that as well, but i think its absurd to think that a man would go so far as to dress trans to gain access to said space. Like i said, there are no guards deciding who can go into the bathroom or not. If a man wanted to assault a woman they could just walk right in. Theres no need for them to fake being trans to do it. That rhetoric is absurd and just an excuse to make sure trans people arent accepted into their true identity.

[@lorrainemcgrail6315]

@@liliks14 Litterally no one is denying the fear of being assualted in a bathroom is legitmate? like I said it happens all the time but bathroom bills against trans people will do absolutely nothing to stop it.

[@reespewa]

Also regarding'think of the children': My 3 yr old son asked me about his dead grandparents and whether myself and my partner were going to die too. If people are worried about discussing transsexuality then they've got no chance on the actual hard questions!

[@jneilson7568]

These irrational fears and falsities definitely get passed down by poor communication, it's such a fixable issue too.

[@MoriMementa]

It is far easier to explain the concept of gay and trans people to children than to explain bigotry. I heard a four year old in my class tell his friend that he'd protect them if someone tried to kill them because of their skin color. It won't hurt our children to inherit a kinder world.

[@ashikjaman1940]

Children: What is death? Transphobes: shut up I'm bullying people for being born

[@nomenaodisponivel12]

The worst is that the "think of the children" should be appliable for any human being who is in some way different from such kid and the people kid is close to and come with an obvious answer. Since the only argument there is "how am I gonna explain to the children that this person is different from us". But transphobia is way more socially acceptable than, for example, racism, which is why the only acceptable response a parent could give to a kid asking about someone having a different skin color (unlikely to happen just like anything else, but in a case it happens) would be explaining that different skin colors exist and are completely natural; but it's still okay to pretend that if the kid asked about a transgender person (also unlikely to happen) the parent would have no clue to formulate an answer. Even though all of differences the answer is the very same: there are different people and that's okay, [random teaching about it and a note about needing to respect everyone]

[@breebell468]

Children are...really adaptable. Teaching during this pandemic has taught me that. Children aren't that delicate.

[@jlp6864]

children are a lot smarter than adults think as well!

[@yeetyeet1655]

As a high school student, I just wanted to say thank you so much! It’s hard for us, but teaching during this pandemic just seems so difficult. I appreciate teachers so much- you guys have the most important job in the world!❤️❤️

[@tomkmccarthy]

Totally. I’ve got two seven year olds and they both already understand that some folk are guys, some are girls, some are somewhere in between/neither and some need to transition to be who they feel they are. It’s pretty simple.

[@Cosplaythief]

Taking children seriously doesn't help when you want to use them as a tool for whatever point you're making.

[@seaquarian]

@@Cosplaythief definitely. in my experience people who do that would never take children seriously anyway. they consider their children property or extensions of themselves instead of autonomous beings capable of complex thought

[@Plasticplas1]

Does JK not remember when she had harry hanging out in the girls toilets. he got in there just fine without "pretending to be a woman" Like sinister men can already go into the bathroom the only barrier is social.

[@GeneralBolas]

If I recall correctly, it was a disused girls toilet due to it being haunted. This is why Hermione suggested hiding their potion-making there.

[@fermintenava5911]

Yeah, but that was also the same bathroom where 50 years a boy entered and murdered a little girl.

[@animeotaku307]

Also, women can threaten women, too. In fact, now that this is becoming a thing, I’m more worried about a woman trying to break down my stall door demanding to see proof that I’m a woman.

[@TulilaSalome]

Yes this is what I have been wondering (in general not the HP so much.) There is nothing stopping anyone now, and I have not yet been asked for any 'gender certificates' - in my country you can also change your ID gender by asking as well, no 'proof' needed. But what does that have to do with going to the toilet??

[@animeotaku307]

@@TulilaSalome It’s this idea that women’s bathrooms are sacred and perverts want to get in and leer at their privates. Never mind that gender-neutral bathrooms exist without issue and that there’s stalls offering more privacy and it’s inappropriate to barge into a stall someone is using regardless of gender.

[@tortis6342]

3:29 I love how Lindsay's response is just "this is an interesting perspective -- are you familiar with the theory of ligma?"

[@trentc2018]

Response of a queen

[@Tarotb]

My sister pointed out that if a man wants to assault a woman in a bathroom, he doesn't need to pretend to be trans; he'll just walk in regardless. It's not like rapists can use the defence "it's not assault if I identify as a woman".

[@jonnysac77]

@@howdydoo9148 no, there usually too busy taking a shit to give a shit

[@lorenjorgenzzz]

THANK YOU BAHHA

[@timothymclean]

On the other hand, in some jurisdictions murderers can use the defense "I found out -she- he was a trans 'woman'." I am not exaggerating.

[@RE-dy1cc]

@@timothymclean what????

[@Taeerom]

@@howdydoo9148 But then he can just claim to be a passing trans man and that he doesn't have access to the mens room. Check mate JK

[@tinamoul]

I never noticed how much they reused the trans panick puking joke. Jesus it's ridiculous.

[@AaronAlthaus]

Yeah..... and I really liked some of those moments at the time.... looks like I’m succeeding at being better than past me, but it’s still weird looking back at who I was not too long ago.

[@quote6013]

I remember seeing these when I was little and just being, confused

[@MeonLights]

It's also in at least one Leisure Suit Larry game. You know, the games about the sleazeball who lies, wears costumes and tricks women into sleeping with him.

[@jaredreid2661]

I enjoy these self reflective moments of times. We all have stories of growing up in where we played "cowboys and Indians" or slang terms we used in highschool. Understanding other peoples view points and trauma don't make you a snowflake it makes you a decent human being. We can still look at these old movies with the glasses of the times but with a understanding of the present. I like the disclaimers put on shows/movies they are doing now.

[@Edeinawc]

I watched Ace Ventura a dozen times when I was a kid and I just thought that was some legit fruit in her underwear. None of it made sense.

[@tonyparker7349]

Jenny Nicholson as every author.

[@charlesmaddison212]

Convinced me

[@PaintSplashProductions]

She has the perfect voice

[@hmc5208]

HBomb as "French Narrator"

[@Zephyrbal]

Only the evil ones

[@joshuajaworsky5367]

Yes please

[@robinesperoza]

Taking either Lindsay's and Natalie's side in the feud is like choosing between one of your parents when they have a fight.

[@thequeertelope7941]

right??

[@butterflymackay]

in other words, which of my hot moms from the internet do I love more?

[@voidify3]

@@internetexplorer6304 theyre both 30something they count as milfs

[@voidify3]

@@internetexplorer6304 are you with the horny police? YOULL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE(dives into river)

[@Clay3613]

Both kinda suck at different things.

[@offbrandbiscuit]

The ending of Some Like It Hot just sounds like "Ah, I can't keep lying. I'm a man!", *"Is that supposed to put me off?"* and I love that.

[@orangenostril]

The original ending was supposed to be the guy saying "I know" which is amazing

[@christianchiakulas852]

Hands down best comedy ending in cinematic history

[@DiamantisHell]

Same

[@orangenostril]

@DC Bombadil every moment is god tier

[@octogen1282]

That feeling when there are exactly 999 likes on a comment that you also like is a very special kind of satisfying.

[@Amatyultare0256]

Jenny Nicholson: I Don't Do British Accents Also Jenny Nicholson:

[@stevenw4566]

I mean it was proof that she doesn't 🤣

[@raggletaggle8827]

Her Rarity voice was so great, though. I'm super glad she's doing it again!

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

As a British person..... it’s fine. She’s great. But it’s just fine 😅

[@sena167]

that was her? it was very funny

[@timothymclean]

It wouldn't be anywhere _near_ as funny if she was _good_ at British accents!

[@amithe_gayboi5473]

Whenever someone invokes “Think of the Children” they of course never mean the LGBTQA+ children who benefit from seeing themselves represented positively in the media.

[@saffodils]

right?! and the LGBT+ children's friends who could be better allies if they understood and empathized with LGBT+ characters

[@Ralph-yn3gr]

Usually they mean "Think of the children I won't be able to turn into reactionary bigots because they know better."

[@elliquinn8198]

It seems like they don't believe that LGBTQA+ children exist. Dunces.

[@severussnape2917]

I don't know if anyone that uses "think of the children" actually thinks of the children, I've only ever seen it used to try and justify why the things they don't approve of not be allowed .

[@blondieYorkie]

100%!!!!

[@queenrayne1338]

Hey Lindsey, just wanna give you some support. Sorry the Twitter mob attacked you. Hope you can keep making videos and making commentary.

[@ratboygirl]

what happened?

[@monicaenglish2566]

Yes what happened?

[@queenrayne1338]

@@monicaenglish2566 she made a comment about the story structure of Raya the last dragon being similar to avatar the last air bender and people somehow took that as anti-asian hatespeech.

[@junjunjamore7735]

@@queenrayne1338 Wild, other people have made that connection before her.

[@mountainharpie]

I think your decision to "cancel" twitter and get off that platform is a good one!!!!!

[@TheAstip]

The reason it doesn't matter that the villian isn't a trans woman but a cis man who dresses as a woman for nefarious purposes, is because transphobic people believe the former *are* the latter.

[@anisioc.3426]

@@AlexReynard when the artist is a transphobe, though, you get quite the curveball

[@gentlemandemon]

@@AlexReynard It would be if it weren't for the fact that MOST depictions in media until fairly recently were all putting out a message that a certain kind of people can only be a certain kind of thing. The individual stories don't exist in a vacuum; they reinforce each other.

[@gentlemandemon]

@@AlexReynard Elevating good art has nothing to do with an artist conflating trans people with the existing cultural notion that "men will put on a wig and stay they're a woman to do sex crimes"

[@steelplatedheart]

@@AlexReynard Do you mean you haven't seen anything to convince you JK Rowling *isn't* a transphobe? Because you then went on to describe transphobia pretty solidly.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

@@AlexReynard That's essentially the problem Johanne is a transphobe by ignorance, not malice, but the results of that are effectively the same. She doesn't understand that trans women aren't predatory guys in drag and she doesn't understand that trans men aren't victimized women. So when she writes a predatory man in drag into her story it is painfully obvious that that is a depiction of a trans person because that's what she thinks trans women are.

[@VulpesHilarianus]

"Won't someone think of the children?!" I do. That's why I say let them interact with people different from themselves so they gain a sense of identity and empathy.

[@May-ky4lu]

+

[@MsZsc]

"that's not how that doesn't work"

[@HMDHEGD]

And y'know people who are like them (if the kids are trans)

[@autopsyblue]

I think about trans kids all the time and what a fucking miserable existence JK is setting them up for. It's.. not fun.

[@anthonyvitale.]

@VulpesHilarianus No, no you're doing "think of the children" wrong. Let us do the thinking for your, that way everybody's better off.

[@willmiles7978]

Happened to watch Some Like It Hot recently, was pleasantly surprised how relatively progressive it was, for its age... I suppose the difference in that case is rather than the hand-wringing hypothetical of 'men dressing as women to access women's safe spaces to harm women' the main characters are instead 'men dressing as women to access women's safe spaces to avoid harm from other men'?

[@KryssLaBryn]

Plus that last line was just /*chef's kiss*

[@lachieechoecho]

If I can find a copy/online service I’d like to watch Nuns On The Run as well and compare. From memory, it’s basically a remake of Some Like It Hot. Except British.

[@ultraviolettas]

good point!

[@starkingbiker]

Billy Wilder was very progressive. He was a man who fled from fascism. There are some “problematic” jokes sprinkled throughout, but the film in general is really careful in how it delves into sexual-politics. Imo.

[@larsfrommars]

“I’m a man.” “Nobody’s perfect.” At this precise moment, my soul left my body

[@heatherlee2967]

Lol I know

[@draconicfeline6177]

Now I legit need to watch this movie

[@allymog5228]

@@draconicfeline6177 it's such a good film. Big recommend

[@s.g.7572]

"Some Like it Hot" is fantastic, the jokes have aged so well and it's just generally very warm and sweet

[@Angelica_Rodriguez39]

This entire film is just brilliant. Love it so much

[@MorningStar426]

"Think of the children" Yes, think of the children like mine who never see any representation of our family in children's books or shows. Who will be teased and discriminated against because they have two mom's, one of whom is trans. So yes, please think of the children who just want to see their family represented in the books and shows they love.

[@staceyann1180]

Yes, thank you! Those "think of the children" people seem to really say "think about a group of fictitious children that I believe are the most important".

[@aquababy5]

@@edwardmcmanus I believe they mean with one of those mums/moms being trans. That’s much less common.

[@timothymclean]

No, not _those_ children. Think of the children who would be traumatized by your children being accepted, somehow! I'm sure they exist!

[@MorningStar426]

@@edwardmcmanus in shows for older children, it is definitely becoming more and more common, but in shows for young children and toddlers it is still almost unheard of.

[@ingridc0ld]

Or me as a child already questioning my gender identity because I didn't feel like other girls

[@jameshorner7816]

"Scoop up the woke cookies" hasn't she been doing that for years, with the whole gay Dumbledore and black Hermione?

[@ashikjaman1940]

That's the magic of *~fake allies~*

[@quentinstayskull2464]

It looks like an obvious case of projection lmao 😂

[@junjunjamore7735]

The "black Hermione" thing has been taken out of context tbh. She never said Hermione was meant to be black, just that she supports a black actress playing her on stage,

[@cariander]

@@junjunjamore7735 nah, she explicitly said that "white skin was never specified" (spoilers, she did). Like I'm not defending the racists who got mad over the existence of a black woman, but to claim that was always her intention is disingenuous af, specially considering every other black character is very specifically described as being black

[@calebarsenault382]

@@cariander 1) I’m pretty sure there was one line in the entire series that said she was pale 2) the point the other person made was that JKR supported the casting, not that JKR always pictured Hermione as black

[@xaviarnl]

I am very much living for the "No f***s given anymore" vibes of this video. More, more!

[@GeneralBolas]

I love how The Daily Mail is given a content warning. And it totally deserves it.

[@Im__Andy-f6x]

The Daily Hell

[@madelynelise8956]

You know, when Nikkietutorials was forced into coming out, I really didn’t understand where people got the narrative of her hiding anything or having lied. Like she didn’t owe you anything? But I guess that narrative came from the media and a lack of good trans representation. It’s still wrong though, trans people owe you nothing.

[@roseclouds5838]

the people under her comments saying “ I KNEW it” really made me laugh because it had never even been a topic of debate or discussion I don’t think anybody knew and the only anger it brought up was envy at how supportive her parents and healthcare system were

[@maschaorsomething]

@@roseclouds5838 I absolutely despise these "I KNEW IT!" comments. No, you did not know. You were assuming. If I were to wrongly come out as a transwoman, enough people would yell "I knew it!" as my voice is deep or my face not very feminine. I've been called transphobic slurs for not fitting into my role good enough. My boyfriend has been asked about his sexuality because he didn't seem heterosexual enough. It's all bullshit.

[@BrieCheese]

The main issue that I remember a lot people having was that she didn't tell her fiance. Vanessa LeBlanc even made a video about it. I'm waiting for Vanessa to make another video about Nikkie's mom since Vanessa thinks that parents who support their child's transition are abusers. But idk maybe she's worried that she'll lose more subs if she goes after people who have a platform.

[@melanieg.9092]

@@roseclouds5838 definitly!

[@iamknife7]

@@BrieCheese Was her not telling her fiance even true?

[@jamesm.8577]

In regards to the guy who thought “death of the author” was literal; it seems like that crowd puts a significant amount of effort in to not understanding what it is they’re up in arms about.

[@jasonmgrady]

Willful ignorance.

[@riley8385]

They get their views from grifters, and they go to great lengths to keep their audience as ignorant as possible on the topics they talk about, because knowledge is antithesis to their business model. It's like how you always find someone who followed people like Peterson or Shapiro until they talked about a topic they actually understood and were able to notice all the bullshit they vomit.

[@reubenleal7098]

For real, the other day I saw lot of people arguing about the male gaze theory and a depressing amount of them seemed to think it was some kind of rule that stopped men from looking at women in literally any context as opposed to a tool for feminist media analysis

[@UTU49]

They are also extremely willing to believe terrible things about people that they don't like… in the complete absence of any evidence whatsoever.

[@rockomundo]

Well it is a poor name for the overall idea

[@eev14]

"Won't you think of the children" is an attitude that has negatively affected me as a kid, my dad came out as trans when I was 11, at the same time I was being bullied at school and was really sick. Child protective services got involved and one of the people looking at our case thought that my dad (who was transitioning at that time) was a crossdresser or a fetishist.. So they just assumed my dad was sexually abusing me and asked me a LOT of very uncomfortable questions (I was 12 at this time), I had to be extremely defensive as to protect my dad from being accused of things that didn't happen. And because they only focused on this I never got any help for the things I was actually struggling with, at one point they even tried to take me away from my parents but thankfully child protective services wrote actual lies that I had to point out to the judge at 13 years old causing them to get a slap on the wrist and me being able to stay with my parents (while still not receiving help).

[@rosalynnejames6346]

School once wanted to avoid blame for the toxic environment they had made & tried to shift all blame for me SKIPPING SCHOOL specifically onto bad parenting. NOTE: Children try to avoid the places where they get hurt. Children who get hurt at home tend to avoid home. Children who get hurt at their relative's tend to reject the idea of visiting or meeting that relative. Children who avoid school... get it? In 5th grade we had a teacher who literally believed I got sick on purpose & refused to let me go home to change my clothes. That teacher disppeared before year 6.

[@ilincabogza]

I am so sorry❤ I hope you did get the help later in life, even if that should have been given to you

[@rosalynnejames6346]

​@@ilincabogza Decided not to get any more help until I was of age, to keep my parents out of the information & payment loop. Until then, it was self-help, which is rough, but gave me a sense of accomplishment for every success. After I came of age and got an income, I reached out and got help. I definitely carry scars, but they're mostly healed over now, thank you. ^^

[@ilincabogza]

@@rosalynnejames6346 i am definetly sorry you had to wait so long, but i command your stranght and i'm so glad you are still here. Im happy you are better now❤

[@eev14]

@@ilincabogzaQuite a lot later but in the end I got access to therapy that helped me. To be fair I still struggle with a lot of stuff. Just the way me and my dad were treated back then is just not ok at all, the only relief I have about that is that people going through the same thing now have more resources available to them. What matters is that people can feel safe and accepted.

[@Sam-to5wx]

"What the fuck-. When you asked me to read these...I didn't think they would be this bad." killed me. I feel the horrified/exasperated disbelief in my soul.

[@ProgramIncomplete]

Damn, why does every Lindsey Ellis video feel like the Avengers coming together? She always got the whole squad in here.

[@acehealer4212]

So, between Lindsay and Natalie, who is Cap and who is Iron Man in this Civil War?

[@nobodycares-q9o]

Natalie and Lindsay are too iconic to be either one of those, especially Natalie (sorry, Lindsay)

[@ralphawsome2556]

I feel Natalie has the same kinda chaotic energy as iron man

[@weebleschneeble9368]

@@acehealer4212 I feel like this is a double ironman situation

[@milena2080]

I will never get the years of my life back that I lost when I heard Dan Olson read the excerpts in the omegaverse video.

[@TheBarackAttack]

Q: What has Lyndsay Ellis ever done in her life that is of the purest, purest form? A: Defended Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

[@PeriwinklePangolin24]

God's work, we might say

[@jbark678]

God help the outcasts

[@PeriwinklePangolin24]

@@jbark678 Passing on the story of someone I saw online who said they used to sing that song for their family but they thought the lyrics were "God help the out CATS, hungry for BIRDS" and didn't learn the truth until years later. Their parents never wanted to correct them cuz they thought it was cute.

[@zerjiozerjio]

Exactly

[@jm7215]

@@jbark678 god already did In the form of lindsay of coursr

[@allanagiles9470]

"Think of the children" I am actually! The LGBTQ+ children who should be supported and loved!

[@francescab7058]

Exactly! I'm going to teach my toddler to love and accept everyone, unless they prove to themselves to be assholes :-D

[@frozenweevil4022]

ThInK oF ThE cHiLdReN- ok Karen, then love your child for who they are Homophobic Karen: aNGeRY

[@codyschlenker6821]

Children are not old enough to make decisions, hence why they have parents for consent. Children are far too easily influenced to allow this and it's cruel and disgusting to think otherwise. Children aren't allowed to have sex, get married, drink, smoke, vote, etc... so why would promote a child to do something that is abnormal?

[@allanagiles9470]

@@codyschlenker6821 being gay or trans isnt "abnormal" it just isnt accepted by society. also being gay or trans isnt a decision and they do not need their parents consent to be themselves.

[@matthewbadley5063]

I did think of the children. I feel sorry for the children of bigots who are taught to be bigots when they grow up. **angry karen noises**

[@dionysus8082]

it shocks me how Rowling goes on tirades about how “our daughters are being tricked into being trans!!!!!” and not once do we see a trans man in any of these transphobic pieces of media. it’s almost as though we’re completely invisible

[@Samantha_yyz]

Yah, the media just acts like trans men don't exist, expect the occasional, we are losing are fellow women/lesbian's to the trans. Cuz it's not like ppl can't take time to figure themselves out, or reach a stage whew they feel ready to transition. I was 25 when I finally confronted my repressed feelings and finally understood them again, for the first time since I was 5 secretly putting on my aunt's old clothes wanting to be a girl.

[@Samantha_yyz]

@@craigpoer lol the office room my project is in has 4 trans ppl out of 70. And 3 non-binary that I know of. Others will I can't know all 70 individuals that well. Oh and hello I'm a Transwoman lesbian. I do in fact exist and we aren't that hard to find. My list job has 8 ppl on my shit me Transwoman and a non binary individual as well.

[@nuclear_vampire]

And we're always like. Assumed to be tomboy lesbians who just...got tricked somehow. Who's gonna tell them I like boys and love fem clothes, they just make me feel dysphoric? Or about my knitting and embroidery? It's almost like there's not a connection between these at all! /extreme sarcasm

[@pineapplefrostyfruits9225]

@@craigpoer Intersex people are more common than red hair. So. Yknow. Gender representation different from assigned sex (like left handedness used to be) is on the rise as it's less repressed and hated.

[@AndreUrzua1]

@@craigpoer There are very little statistics about this, but Ive seen statistics ranging from 0.5% to 2% of the population

[@liamohare353]

We had a Harry Potter movie drinking game years back, and one of the rules was "whenever an overweight character is greedy - take a drink". 😂 She's still at it!

[@Trixtah]

yeah, I don't want to be here all "I knew she sucked as a writer from the very first HP book", but well, she did. (no shade on people who loved them - I loved frigging Anne McCaffrey when I read those at around the same age millennials encountered HP.)

[@anguishedcarpet]

yeah, on the nose character traits to exemplify their particular inner evil is incredibly passe imo

[@David-dz1cb]

Ooof, that's...rough. Guess I really don't need to read the HP books huh.

[@anguishedcarpet]

@@David-dz1cb they're okay I guess, but definitely geared towards kids. I wouldn't make fun of an adult for reading them but I'd certainly internally question it lmao

[@skywalkerchick]

@@anguishedcarpet my mom used to riddle my books with post-it notes and tabs because she was convinced there were some deep religious and mythological meaning in JKR’s prose. And I’m not saying this to be anti-intellectual, I have read plenty of books whose prose was deep and philosophical, but in HP’s case, it really wasn’t as deep as she wanted it to be.

[@roverbernhard4489]

Are we all sleeping on the fact that Lindsay replied to a someone with "are you familiar with the theory of ligma?"

[@Satherian]

Who'd she reply to?

[@陈独秀-v3f]

What’s the theory of ligama???? /s

[@peterprime2140]

@@Satherian Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad

[@drugbuddy665]

@@peterprime2140 only appropriate way to address that man

[@RehueHolt]

It's not a story the Jedi would tell you.

[@vesperfromtheinternet5588]

"you don't have to write the accent in, joanne. we get that you hate poor people" HARRIS-

[@vesperfromtheinternet5588]

41:35 for my own future reference

[@pr0v0cative4pple]

He's so right, though. It's like when Americans write the character with the southern accent as the penniless moron.

[@ashikjaman1940]

@@vesperfromtheinternet5588 me too thanks

[@gollum1ring]

I say similar things when reading comics written by Christ Claremont though with him I think it’s because he probably is excited in the misguided belief that he’s genuinely getting the dialects right.

[@KateHolden]

Memories of reading "Career of Evil" , in which Cormaran Strike visited my working class hometown and Rowling did the phonetic accent thing plus really outdated dialect words, some of them from the wrong region.... 🙃

[@queenrayne1338]

Holy shit, I blocked that ace ventura scene out of my mind years ago. Seeing it again was actually really hard. I hate that I was exposed to this level of transphobia at a young age. It absolutely had an effect on how long I hid in the closet.

[@mountainharpie]

I'm realizing how much I've blocked out too. Giving people a pass for behaving in ways that we can't agree with... it's just a movie... it's just a joke... it's just a racist relative... Ignore Them! Right?? Keep peace, don't rock the boat, dont respond you aren't the idiot whisperer, block, unlike, click, cancel. Conversation over. It's actually sad what most discourse has become, and still is a problematic part of what keeps the hierarchical power structures in place. We do. With our language, actions, statements, choices. I'm practicing something new! Evertime I feel or act defensive about something, I'm pausing to take a moment to look at what I'm defending, what specific belief is being challenged. It has so far been illuminating!

[@davivignola5895]

Yeah, that scene... it kind of ruined the entire stupid movie for me. It was just so awful.

[@DiamantisHell]

The thing is I only recently got to watch it and I was shocked at it, it's cringy and to think people actually laughed at that is embarrassing

[@starry_lis]

I can remember that when I saw it as a child my reaction was along the lines of "she still smoking hot tho 🤔"

[@amybergeron9637]

oof same! I vaguely remember watching the movie, and my total non-memory of her being trans indicates how painfully naturalized that view was presented to me

[@zacharymiraziz4585]

Oh man, the guy that thought Death of the Author was about murdering JK Rowling.....hahaha...i'm dying. ROFL.

[@oldvlognewtricks]

‘Are you familiar with the theory of ligma?’ 🤣

[@emilywhite1429]

You're dying... because Death of the Author killed you!

[@nunyabusiness1232]

Lindsay: I've got no skin in the game... Ed Gein has left the chat

[@Skag_Sisyphus]

This joke is underrated!

[@mitchyb7070]

As a trans man i wanna say thank you for talking about this. It was a little emotionally exhausting to watch because it's something i have to live and scenes like these remind me about how shitty the world is for us but I always love your videos and it's nice hearing one of my favorite KZbinrs talk about something that effects me directly

[@englishmuffinpizzas]

As a trans person who hadn’t seen any of those movies … wow. I liked it better under the rock I was living under

[@poorlyfleshedskeleton5873]

Came for the education, stayed for Jenny’s impersonation of Joanne

[@untecito]

exactly

[@theocean1973]

Jenny’s pretty good at impersonating unhinged authors. It’s...it’s a pattern. (Laughs in Addison Cain, gets sued while laughing)

[@JWK1101]

@@theocean1973 You might say that she is very good at delivering lines ... with prejudice.

[@Eviltwin531]

She really needs to do voice work or read audiobooks or something. She's really good at it.

[@AzureKite]

@@Eviltwin531 She did do some voice work before, although in a less than official manner (cough cough friendship is witchcraft cough cough)

[@flyingteeshirts]

"We can't be together because I'm a man!" "Nobody's perfect."

[@cremetangerine82]

Love that movie!

[@harrietamidala1691]

That still makes me laugh.

[@manufacuturedpersonality718]

It’s kinda sweet? I love it?

[@Observer31]

... I think I have to see that film now.

[@sebastiancarreira5832]

Woke AF

[@TheBiggestGame]

The real winner of the feud is Jenny for her spot on impression of Joanne

[@haihappen8306]

Jenny Nicholson should do more voice acting! I wish her success and being well paid for such success!

[@minfiliaryne]

Jenny voicing Karens is honestly my favourite thing, she's genuinely good as a VA

[@DewMan001]

Where's my team Jenny pin, damnit?!

[@jewelcloud836]

I like to pretend its emma watson just for the extra (although imagined) burn

[@DewMan001]

@@jewelcloud836 ***oh my god can we please get Watson to do a dramatic reading of TERF wars*** complete with editorializing

[@simonplacr6111]

Also of note: Chandler’s father from Friends and HIM from The Powerpuff Girls

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

This aint jack saint man, this is more focused on crime thrillers and the trans killer trope

[@moonlighthowling666]

I think HIM was good representation. Chandlers father imo was not

[@PedanticPig]

Chandler's "dad" is a weird case, because the character is portrayed sympathetically especially towards the end (by a cis woman, which if you have to have a cis actor play a trans woman that's the way to do it) and we're clearly supposed to think Chandler should get over himself and accept her. But it's still all a punchline at Chandler's expense and the distinction between trans woman, crossdresser and cis gay drag queen is blurred all over the place. I'm inclined to think they had somewhat good intentions but didn't really have any idea what they were doing.

[@moonlighthowling666]

And now that I'm thinking about it, HIM is non binary, not a transwoman. But he's also a villain which can add to transphobia. I still think he's good representation, because seeing gender nonconformity in any capacity helps to normalize it.

[@xgzav3488]

@@moonlighthowling666 HIM's is a villain because of the evil lobster-monster though, so it may count more as bad representation for Jordan "lobster-king" Peterson.

[@just_resa]

"Think of the children!" Well I do... And I don't want any queer children to think that something is wrong with them anymore, so I fight for LGBTQ rights

[@just_resa]

@@MrBruh-yb9qi I remember growing up and thinking I was weird and strange and "not normal". I remember breaking down in my room crying because I realized I can't love guys. I remember having panick attacks because I found out I was a lesbian. There was no representation in media that would have shown me that it's ok and that I'm a normal human being. I know A LOT of young people commit suicide because of their gender and sexuality. But if you saying that what I and so many other people fight for is "poison", than I don't think you really care about children. The only thing you care about is yourself. Having happy children is less important to you, than yout believes. And I know, you will be making homophobic comments to me now. And I know I can't change your mind. But I don't really care. I just want you to know, that the real "poison" that's been given to children is from people like you

[@swishfish8858]

Don't listen to Ivan, he's been spamming comments like yours with that crap because he's a troll.

[@Kate-ms2mn]

@@aryanpatel4682 A trans kid would still beat you in a fight

[@Kate-ms2mn]

@@aryanpatel4682 yeah, we sure are different. Nothing says 'love' like denying trans youth their identity and insisting they conform to your expectations of them, you sad sad pathetic loser

[@Kagomai15]

I will never show a child any of these films oh my gosh. Unforgivable. I can imagine how much that would hurt to experience, it feels like being bullied, it feels like being assaulted, and I am an adult with context and thicker armour, not a growing child with no armour at all. The constant and consistently unpleasant parade of the same vomit "gag", heartbreaking history. I'm almost grateful their One Joke evolved into the Attack Helicopter if it meant dropping that emetophobic train wreck.

[@astrocohorsclub]

Vanessa: "I read the book!" Lindsay: "She totally read it." Narrator: "She didn't read the book."

[@melanieg.9092]

Me with my book report

[@phastinemoon]

@@melanieg.9092 reporting this, because I’m in this picture and I don’t like it.

[@ghostlygreen6376]

Hahaha kaguya reference

[@ItsAsparageese]

/r/unexpectedronhoward

[@melanieg.9092]

@@phastinemoon as long as it counts as engagemen ;)

[@thatsbougie]

"No one is saying biology isn't real that's why the healthcare thing is such a big deal" True but also a good couplet, Lindsay

[@reed1159]

thank you for pointing out this unexpected couplet

[@mz8584]

Roses are red Violets are blue Healthcare is important Biology is true

[@giovannirastrelli9821]

Interestingly, “Some Like it Hot” was released only a year before “Psycho.”

[@foddermoosie6031]

haha 69 likes

[@giovannirastrelli9821]

@@foddermoosie6031 Damn, I missed that milestone.

[@ahajordon001]

Interestingly, Billy Wilder had been creating films about Dress-up disguises since the start of his career, with a film called The Major And The Minor (1942).

[@JessicaRainey970]

Nobody's perfect!

[@ranne236]

I'm not sure in what way this is relevant, but I feel like it might be worth noting that Joe and Jerry in Some Like It Hot don't pretend to be women for kicks; they're running for their lives from a crime ring dead set on murdering them in cold blood. That and Jerry's periodic apparent self-identification with the ruse, ("I'm engaged!") and I think it gets more complicated. But I'm not gonna argue with the film contributing to the trope. :(

[@ethanjohnstone6797]

The use of singular tran is seriously underrated. It is very fun

[@GuzziHeroV50]

I missed it if you mentioned it, but its worth noting that JK Rowling's pen name of Robert Galbraith has a darker meaning. A certain Robert Galbraith Heath was a psychiatrist who pioneered gay conversion therapy. There's no way she would not know this.

[@rusted_ursa]

Thank you for sharing this information. I wondered why all those dogs were barking.

[@tompadfoot3065]

Her publicists have denied it up and down, but come on, who pulls that name out of thin air?

[@appletree6898]

Wtf ???

[@Dumpknoedel]

Honestly even if I had accidentally done that, I'd just... change my pen name once I found out?

[@appletree6898]

@@Dumpknoedel Probably a good idea, in general, to Google one's pen name before settling on it!!

[@jacktheflying]

Y'know, in hindsight, I don't think it was a coincidence she decided to make the Dursely clan obese

[@laurenbraswell5158]

Yep. Apparently, Joanne also hates fat people. I used to LOVE Harry Potter, but it's apparent that J.K. Rowling only likes thin, cis-het, white people.

[@ladyeclectic]

Dudley didn’t become “good” until he’d leaned out a bit in the last book and apologized to Harry.

[@h00pla434]

Which leaves some real unpleasant implications behind two-thirds of the protagonists being pro-slavery and mocking abolition. How much in that book wasn't a coincidence?

[@verdantbasilisk7561]

@@h00pla434 It gets even worse when you realize that Hermione's anti-slavery stance is effectively her only trait that isn't related to helping Harry in some way.

[@buffysummers5828]

@@verdantbasilisk7561 not to mention the house elves didn’t want to be saved and were happy to continue being servants.

[@neverhowever3231]

i love how we’ve gotten to the point where practically every new breadtube video has like 6 other youtubers collaborating, interjecting or doing voiceovers. it’s so much fun please never stop

[@MrKikip1992]

Joanne: “Gender is a social construct” Enbys exist Joanne: “no.”

[@teaartist6455]

I mean, when did she say it was a social construct? Last time I hear she was reducing women to their reproductive organs and throwing a literary fit over anyone who wasn't being a woman in the "right" way.

[@cthulhutheendless1587]

@@teaartist6455 -I don’t know if she did, but TERFS typically co-opt the 2nd wave feminist talking point that gender is a social construct and say, “See? Gender is bullshit. Stop looking good in dresses!” So when Enbies come along and say the same thing, different from other trans people in that they don’t “reinforce” traditional gender roles (as if trans people are somehow a conservative concept), TERFs suddenly change their tune.

[@MilwaukeeWoman]

@@cthulhutheendless1587 No, us "TERFs" just recognize that no one is a perfect implementation of the gender binary, therefore in a way we have been fighting since second wave for most things to be considered free from the false personality binary. But we still want sex segregated spaces.

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

@@MilwaukeeWoman the new bird acronym is F.A.R.T.s out of respect we can refer to your political alignment by this term since it has less negative connotations. If you are up for it, I'd like to know what brought you to proclaim this was the hill you were to die on? What made you decide to be a deafening FART?

[@crystallineentity7698]

@@MilwaukeeWoman Gender critical is pink alt-right.

[@erinbailey7940]

“What has Lindsay Ellis ever done in its purest form?!” What does this even MEAN?!?

[@Savyon0]

Glad I scrolled down, because I was about to make this EXACT SAME COMMENT. What the fuck DOES that even mean?!

[@greenred6200]

Nothing. Just more pseudo-intellectual nonsense from KZbin’s smartest right-winger. (Not a joke, by the way. He really is their smartest one. That’s how low the bar is.)

[@elvellarambles9151]

*its purest pure form

[@csr7080]

I lost brain cells watching him say those sentences.

[@danthewolf1997]

When I checked his video, he was talking about Lindsey's position on death of the author. She said that she doesn't believe that it's possible to perfectly separate the author from the work. He replied saying that having to do it in its purest form is an unreasonable standard. The model can still be useful even if your feelings about the author still have some influence on your opinion. It's about 19 minutes into his video "Lindsay Ellis and the Cancelling of J.K. Rowling" on Akkad Daily.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

Remember that bathroom doors have a magical barrier to keep men out, but the magic disappears only if someone gets a gender certificate, apparently.

[@daffyphack]

EXACTLY.

[@AzureKite]

This has always what I thought about the discussion, even here in brazil. Like... if you want to get into a women's bathroom to rape someone that badly, you'll do it regardless of what clothes you're wearing.

[@Granas3]

And bathrooms and other gender exclusive spaces are, as we all know, anything goes free zones. You can just rape whoever you please, as long as you're supposed to be in there, and nobody has ever been arrested or convicted for having even consensual sex in eg a men's public toilet, so gender identity is an IRONCLAD DEFENSE

[@toddregnier4966]

Just put licensed genital inspectors at bathrooms to protect everyone's privacy problem solved.

[@YassinElMohtadi]

it has an invisible wall that can only be bypassed if you execute some frame perfect and pixel perfect inputs and subpixel manipulation

[@nat6098]

You know what would make me feel safer in bathrooms? Stall walls and doors that go all the way to the floor and don't have inch wide gaps where they "meet".

[@neurosin]

Restrooms are already like that in Europe. :/

[@robinchesterfield42]

PREACH it! The walls of the stalls at the movie theater near me are _so_ short, I won't go to the bathroom there. The one time I did, I felt like people could see my thighs on the toilet--they're THAT high. I'd rather hold it 'til I get home!

[@arigadatred5395]

@@neurosin Well lucky Europe.

[@symphonysonic8643]

Thank you! It’s weird that bathrooms and locker rooms arnt private at all. People have a problem with trans people even being in the same room as them but are fine butt-naked in a locker room full of cispeople or peeing in a urinal next to another cisman.

[@jjj7790]

I've seen a bathroom designed by someone who was desperately hoping that tall people would never use it, and that people of average height would just see the top of someone's head in the stall and decide not to stand closer. Someone should've told them that making eye contact with someone currently taking a dump while waiting for a stall doesn't make using the stall more appealing to use.

[@nick-ke6wy]

"if the mere sight of a penis upsets you THAT MUCH how do you live with yourselves" i really needed that after all the psychic damage i had taken thanks

[@christopherb501]

Considering the number of freakishly stupid men that think touching your own rear end makes you gay...I'd imagine, "That's the neat part; they don't."

[@nick-ke6wy]

@@MsDudette21 why are you bringing up sexual assault ??? that has nothing to do with my comment . my comment was about ragging on overused transphobic jokes 😭😭 anyways, no men are going into women's bathrooms... and do you want to ban all children from public restrooms forever? that's what it sounds like. what do children accidentally seeing genitalia because they went into a public bathroom have to do with any of this . do you plan to sort people by genitals? you can't tell what sort of junk a person's got unless you strip them naked... what, do you want to enforce mandatory genital checks for EVERYBODY before someone uses the bathroom???? 😭 that would be so unnecessary and violating! and if you DON'T wanna use genital checks, that means you want to judge people by how masculine/feminine they are.... which singles out masculine cis women and feminine cis men too, not just trans people! there have been cis women who have been mistaken for trans women and harassed for using the women's restroom because somebody thought they "weren't feminine enough". trying to exclude trans women from women-only spaces hurts cis women too, and the people who do the hurting are people like you.

[@nick-ke6wy]

@@MsDudette21 anyways, don't bother responding after this. i'm going to block you now, because this is the maximum amount of my time and energy i'm willing to spend on arguing with a person who probably won't listen to anything i say.

[@nick-ke6wy]

@@MsDudette21 wait i think i get what you were trying to say. the youtuber says "how can you live with yourselves" after a montage of jokes about cis men being disgusted by the sight of trans women's penises. by this, the youtuber means "how are these cis men coping with being alive if they can't stand the sight of another person's dick", the joke being that cis men also have dicks. the montage of jokes was transphobic and pretty mentally draining to watch, so the youtuber's snark was a very welcome respite from it. k that's all, bye bye 👋

[@Kellan__they-them]

"Think of the children." If I as a child had been better educated about the existence of LGBT (as it was called back then) people and issues, I would 1) not have gone through a phase in middle school where I thought using "gay" as an insult was okay, 2) have figured out a lot faster that I was, in fact, neither straight nor cis and might have saved myself some misunderstood and undiagnosed dysphoria, 3) have created a safer space around me for LGBTQ+, and 4) possibly have encouraged my LGBTQ+ friends and family to feel more comfortable coming out to me sooner than they did. Ah yes, I can see why that's all so terrible...??

[@azarishere6442]

Yes but then you would disappoint big daddy jesus and the amazing parenting we have today cant let that happen right? Think of the children we have to make their lives as miserable as possible! Sarcasm aside ny point is that you have religion to thank for all that bullshit. Not all religious people are bad obviously but religion itself is. As someone who used to be religious and because of it very homophobic i can assure you that its religion that is keeping us from progressing as a society. As long as people cling to their bibles and quarns people like you will suffer under a garbage system that conserves all the worst things from the past.

[@drac3650]

As someone who was educated about LGBT from a young age I just want to use the "you are correct" horse. I never had to come out or struggle with my identity because I just knew what I felt as soon as it hit me. Maybe some day in the future that will be the norm, hopefully.

[@veradrost9654]

@@drac3650 My upbringing was exactly the same. I was never told about transgenders (simply because my parents are boomers and didn't know), but homosexuality and being tomboyish was never spoken negatively of in my household. I'm bi and my folks didn't even blink. They noticed I use Rebecca - my middle name - as an online nickname a lot and they asked me if I'd rather be called Rebecca now and if that name makes me more comfortable like ??? HELLO MOM, DAD, WHY ARE YOU SO NICE, WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE SUCH LOVE. I have no doubt in my mind that me coming out as trans would have been handled perhaps not perfectly, but with love and respect.

[@BiggestCorvid]

@@azarishere6442 the moment I realized that the Bible has some... issues was in 8th grade. I found a hilarious part in Leviticus that said men shouldn't lay with men because, "God hates that." It sounded so juvenile and petty of a Supreme diety to hate. If he hates than he is either not omniscient or not omnipotent. Either way he isn't omnibenevolent. And all of that contradicts the new testament so... I'm out.

[@Kellan__they-them]

@@azarishere6442 I agree, and it's incredibly sad how deep the damage can run - in my case, neither of my parents are particularly religious (they have some spiritual beliefs but are against organized religion / churches / holy books) but they were both raised Christian and I think that's where it came from. They didn't want to teach my siblings and myself nor did they want to educate themselves about LGBTQ+ at all, and I can distinctly remember some homophobic and transphobic comments they both made when I was younger that I never confronted them about. They did grow as people after we started coming out and educating them, to their credit, but of course we could never discuss it with my grandparents.

[@mori_in_space3475]

Fact I find hilarious: Ed Gein's mother died from a stroke when they were in town. The cause of this stroke? When she witnesses a half dressed, unmarried woman leave the house of a man she knew was married. She was so repulsed and infuriated she had a stroke on the spot and died soon after.

[@tiarezavaleta8850]

🤣🤣🤣

[@spicycherrymilk9058]

I can’t tell if this is fake or not but I’m gonna run with it anyway cause that’s amazing 😂

[@Ven1Vid1Vici]

The woman who left the house definitely has main character energy 😂. And also, if everyone had the same conviction in their beliefs as the mother did with hers then we'd definitely get a lot more done 😂. I will risk a stroke if meant an end to bigotry 😂

[@ThePixieKite]

From what little I know about Ed Gein's mom, I believe it 1000%

[@dataexpunged6969]

@@Ven1Vid1Vici I agree 😂 I wish every bigoted person was THIS committed. Go hard or go home!

[@johnmaguire7695]

We need Jenny to just read everything, seriously.

[@RebecaAlexandre]

I NEED her voice in my GPS. Calling me out in my choices of ignoring all of her advices.

[@LachlanHatfield]

I really want the audiobook for the Axiom End sequel to just be Jenny using different voices

[@postmodernpastoral]

💯💯💯

[@dylansporrer1198]

@@LachlanHatfield Especially if she heavily used her alien voice. You know the one, where she stresses all the O's and wiggles her arms to indicate alien tentacles? It's also her slenderman voice.

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

She might need breaks after the whole COVID infection. She's a delight but also human. She seems to like doing it, because I can't imagine her doing it if she did not want to.

[@IsabelCarlota]

I'm very thankful for Lindsay Ellis (and Angelina, hi!), her videos have been eye-opening in many opportunities and also very entertaining, they have been of great helo during the dark times of my life and have made me very happy.

[@CamziVonZombie]

I love the notion of “think of the children” because yeah dude, that’s literally why I want to normalize talking to kids about LGBT+ people. Because I think its good for them.

[@Spongebrain97]

Thats basically what Iv done with my little sister. Im straight and for a few years now have given small nudges to her on the topic of gay and trans people. Yeah you could walk up and say "they are regular people just like you and me" but Idk if that actually resonates with them so instead we'll be watching cartoons and if a character was queer Id nonchalantly point it out such as the teacher Mr Simmons on Hey Arnold and its now to the point where to her it is normal

[@loonloonlikemoonmoon1577]

I hate the concept of think of the children. As if there aren't LGBT+ kids. As if I weren't one of them. As if we should keep kids feeling confused and dirty for who they are.

[@Dapstart]

as a kid i didnt care that one of my friends had two moms, and honestly i thought it was pretty cool، what people seem to forget is that kids don't really care about stuff like this, the concept of boys liking girls us just as weird to them as boys liking boys or girls liking girls lmao. As long as your parents say its nornal you just nod and keep playing with your friends :)

[@xSTARRYxEYESx]

Amen basically

[@minfiliaryne]

Exactly! I went to school shortly after Section 28 (made it illegal to talk about LGBT+ positively in schools) was repealed so didn't get that education as it wasn't part of the curriculum. When I realised I was bi, I did my absolute best to make sure my brother and sister were properly educated on this stuff, even if they did also learn about it in schools as we're well past the time that was repealed and it's now been worked into the curriculum

[@summanus4437]

J.K's new book reads like an r/Menwritingwomen post.

[@elvellarambles9151]

A _deafening fart_ ripped through the room ...

[@DiamantisHell]

@@elvellarambles9151 this killed me

[@DiamantisHell]

Fr has she met any women? Lol

[@k.morningstar7983]

as someone who has an enormous bosom i'm just not gonna read this terrible crime series

[@DiamantisHell]

@@k.morningstar7983 not the bosoms lol

[@milhousevanhoutan9235]

The bathroom argument is so dumb to me. It's like they are arguing there's a special forcefield created by the little woman ideogram. If someone nefarious is going to do something in a woman's bathroom.... They can just do that, they will do that. There is no forcefield. There's already laws against it to punish those people. There is literally nothing else that needs to or should be done. We've gone as far as we can.

[@moscanaveia]

@@my_cousin_mose9782 Giving trans women accress to women's bathrooms protects trans women from assault, harassment and other types of violence they might be subjected to by forcing them into men's bathrooms instead. Gatekeeping of bathrooms uses femininity as a criterion, not the presence of a penis on a trans woman whom you mistake for a sexual predator

[@ashikjaman1940]

I remember in High School there was an adult who literally walked into the school, went into the boy's bathroom, and just took pictures of kids. This was around 3 years ago in a very public area. (EDIT: I LOOKED IT UP TO REFRESH MY MEMORY AND IT WAS SO MUCH WORSE THAN I REMEMBERED www.nbcboston.com/news/local/boston-latin-school-universities-secret-filming-boys-bathroom-charges/125091/ ) There's really just nothing stopping people if they're gonna do something, not laws and certainly not other people seeing.

[@Liz_ArdE]

@@my_cousin_mose9782 all anyone has to do to get into a female space is look even a little bit like a woman. I'm a cis woman who has been repeatedly called a guy all throughout my life due to my more androgynous style and unisex haircut, and I've never had any problem entering female spaces (as well I shouldn't). If a guy wanted to prey upon women in their spaces all he would need is a wig and some lipstick and that is regardless of any laws.

[@necordektox879]

@@my_cousin_mose9782 As if you'd do something anyway. All this does is hurt women who don't properly conform to society's feminine ideal.

[@Dezmixbe]

It's always been hilarious that anyone believes this shit. As if criminals when confronted are going to stand there and debate biology with you, instead of simply saying "Oops, wrong bathroom." and getting the hell out of there.

[@pinkcupcake4717]

Just here to voice my support, Lindsay makes great content, and flourishes when she gets the time and space to be nuanced and explore a topic in full. I hope you are able to take care of yourself!