Cavalry was a stupid idea

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Lindybeige

Lindybeige

7 жыл бұрын

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Riding a horse into battle is not a technique easy to adopt. The first man to suggest it may have been laughed at.
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A long ramble by me. Possibly I should have done one video about Celtic/Roman four-pommelled saddles, and a separate one about how cavalry took a long time to develop.
I wasn't quite at my peak while making this one. I came back from abroad with a virus, and had spent the previous day coughing.
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@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 4 жыл бұрын
Hannibal: "Yeah, you're right. Riding horses into battle is silly." Equip: Elephants
@oOZionOo
@oOZionOo 4 жыл бұрын
*Equips Elephants
@xhawkenx633
@xhawkenx633 4 жыл бұрын
Khmer: let add crossbows to those elephants
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929
@yoursexualizedgrandparents6929 4 жыл бұрын
@@xhawkenx633 under rated
@maxmuller8633
@maxmuller8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@xhawkenx633 Funny how a smaller bolt can literally penetrate your armour better than a sawed off javelin
@xhawkenx633
@xhawkenx633 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxmuller8633?????
@redenabao2358
@redenabao2358 4 жыл бұрын
cavalry is a stupid name i prefer stallion battalion
@shrekonion8307
@shrekonion8307 4 жыл бұрын
Steed stampede
@Saiyan_Goku
@Saiyan_Goku 4 жыл бұрын
rey nietes nice
@pipebomber04
@pipebomber04 4 жыл бұрын
Horse full force
@LukaSzent
@LukaSzent 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer “A Mare Fanfare”.
@Marshal_Windsor
@Marshal_Windsor 4 жыл бұрын
I swear that’s the name of an album can’t remember the bands name though
@JamieDionne
@JamieDionne 3 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige: “Cavalry is a stupid idea” Mongol Empire: “Am I a joke to you?”
@belka8618
@belka8618 3 жыл бұрын
Mongolian horse archers Sassanid cataphracts Parthian horse archers Russian cossacks Polish hussars Ottoman sipahi French cuirassiers Etc etc And these are only some of the notable ones For thousands of years all armies needed cavalry
@wynnwong4008
@wynnwong4008 3 жыл бұрын
Well they're effective mainly due to the archery not the Calvary lol
@belka8618
@belka8618 3 жыл бұрын
@@wynnwong4008 "Mobile archery" thanks to the horses A group of archers couldn't have destroyed an entire roman army with little effort but horse archers did. Also the cataphracts and the hussars were amazing. The heavy cavalry charge was absolutely devastating to the infantry and the hussars... Well they saved vienna
@WhiteWolfsp93
@WhiteWolfsp93 3 жыл бұрын
mongols did use infantry, you know.
@JamieDionne
@JamieDionne 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteWolfsp93 No shit Sherlock. Everyone had infantry. I’m not brain dead. It’s just that the Mongols are very well known for their use of horses.
@zacharymohammadi
@zacharymohammadi 4 жыл бұрын
“Cavalry is stupid” This video was sponsored by Crassus INC.
@alfaholic3
@alfaholic3 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ESFAndy011
@ESFAndy011 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@GiasJulii
@GiasJulii 3 жыл бұрын
LOL perfect
@guneygacka774
@guneygacka774 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@numbdigger9552
@numbdigger9552 3 жыл бұрын
If only ancient people had dirtbikes...
@henrybuchanan6613
@henrybuchanan6613 5 жыл бұрын
Those are brave words for someone in lancing distance
@masonburton7676
@masonburton7676 5 жыл бұрын
RAINBOW_REALITY underrated comment man
@lefoolish1989
@lefoolish1989 4 жыл бұрын
brave words for someone riding towards my spear
@redpotato2585
@redpotato2585 4 жыл бұрын
@@lefoolish1989 underrated comment man
@ikerd7182
@ikerd7182 4 жыл бұрын
@Landsturmregiment underrated comment man
@Brugar18
@Brugar18 4 жыл бұрын
@@lefoolish1989 Brave words for someone who gets charged in by fully plated medieval tank.
@curtainpoles3120
@curtainpoles3120 7 жыл бұрын
but look at my horse... my horse is amazing
@TheDarkWiiPlayer
@TheDarkWiiPlayer 7 жыл бұрын
give it a lick?
@DruidEnjoyer
@DruidEnjoyer 7 жыл бұрын
That's a donkey.
@Twiggyay
@Twiggyay 7 жыл бұрын
+DarkWiiPlayer it tastes just like raisins
@kataiarpad
@kataiarpad 7 жыл бұрын
it tastes just like raisins!
@numberspace321
@numberspace321 7 жыл бұрын
+DarkWiiPlayer it tastes just like raisins
@jimmymac4559
@jimmymac4559 4 жыл бұрын
“Let’s invent something to get my old and frail mother-in-law on this unpredictable horse” said the optimistic Chinese man from 400A.D.
@banananotebook3331
@banananotebook3331 2 жыл бұрын
One has the feeling that said man was optimistic in more than one way. "While we're at it, why only limit it to horses? Why, with this invention why don't we get her to ride on an unpredictable bull instead? Or a tiger?"
@talesofwendigo1232
@talesofwendigo1232 3 жыл бұрын
“Cavalry is a stupid idea” *Mongol throat singing stops...*
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 3 жыл бұрын
WAS not IS buddy
@wowisthatgami8293
@wowisthatgami8293 3 жыл бұрын
Title says: "Cavalry WAS a stupid idea" not IS
@cyberinfotech8780
@cyberinfotech8780 5 жыл бұрын
To summarise: Calvary was stupid when it began. Then it became effective. Then cars and tanks came along and it went back to useless.
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 5 жыл бұрын
you started well enough but it was massed artillery, mud and machine guns that put an end to horses. tanks and tracked vehicles (be it sleds, trains or trucks) took on the roles that 4 legged animals could not. Resupply infrastructure, spear-tip, scout and carrier of big guns.
@flare9757
@flare9757 5 жыл бұрын
Cyber Infotech Hail the Mark 1 AFV!
@itssnapshot
@itssnapshot 5 жыл бұрын
Cavalry
@bashkillszombies
@bashkillszombies 5 жыл бұрын
Don't tell the police that.
@FrarmerFrank
@FrarmerFrank 5 жыл бұрын
Really? Google WW2 Charge at Krojanty The Polish Calvary had Lances,yes,but the sword was replaced with pistols and Rifles and they were considered light mobile units similar to Jeeps with machine gun turrets Of course US Calvary vs Indians where they are shooting at each other on horses (not aiming for Horses which were "valuable spoils") is American History
@Spealder
@Spealder 5 жыл бұрын
"Laughs in mongolian"
@omicrondec
@omicrondec 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahah...
@lemursteaks
@lemursteaks 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@RajKumar-zl7fu
@RajKumar-zl7fu 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@arghunqon3774
@arghunqon3774 5 жыл бұрын
Laughs in turkic
@victorconway444
@victorconway444 5 жыл бұрын
MUAHAHAHAHA.COME ONNNNN!!!! YOUR BRITISH ASS IS ABOUT TO FEEL THE WRATH OF KHAN!
@DomingoDeSantaClara
@DomingoDeSantaClara 4 жыл бұрын
When the troops run short of food it's very easy to convert cavalry to carvery.
@someasiandude4797
@someasiandude4797 8 ай бұрын
Advanced logistics
@eriksamuelhennings2704
@eriksamuelhennings2704 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Laughs because Horses are scared of the most bizarre things. Also Me: Sees a Spider and thinks I am gonna die.
@retrodarktrooper6372
@retrodarktrooper6372 3 жыл бұрын
Well, my horse, despite not giving a shit about anything normally, almost bucked me off Because of a moth
@butterskywalker8785
@butterskywalker8785 3 жыл бұрын
@@retrodarktrooper6372 people do that too
@secretbaguette
@secretbaguette 3 жыл бұрын
@@butterskywalker8785 Buck you off because of a moth? I have to ask in what sort of human interaction has this happened?
@butterskywalker8785
@butterskywalker8785 3 жыл бұрын
@@secretbaguette not like that,I mean almost dropping and killing the fucking child because a moth was in a wall at least 3 meters away from me type of stuff
@secretbaguette
@secretbaguette 3 жыл бұрын
@@butterskywalker8785 Oh
@tyguy6296
@tyguy6296 7 жыл бұрын
i think MOST military tech was at one time considered pretty stupid. guns? ''here... hold this. it will explode, but if it holds together it should shoot this tiny bit out the end'' planes? ''its made of canvas, wood, and paper... hop in and fly it! safe?? oh heavens no... the opposite in fact'' everything is stupid until someone figures out how to make it ''not stupid'' and it gives them a massive advantage. then it's a game changer and they are brilliant
@PopTartNeko
@PopTartNeko 7 жыл бұрын
it was pretty stupid but man do i want passenger zeppelins to come back
@tyguy6296
@tyguy6296 7 жыл бұрын
PopTartNeko pretty sure we could get those to work safely now. i would love to take a trip on one
@Horvath_Gabor
@Horvath_Gabor 7 жыл бұрын
We actually cannot get them work, at least not safely. There are only two gases than can reliably lift a big passenger zeppelin that could transport people/cargo across large distances: Hydrogen and Helium. Hydrogen is cheap (you can get it by electrolysing water) but ridiculously flammable, while Helium is much more stable, but since the US kept its reserves artificially cheap and wasted them for decades, so it is slowly becoming scarce enough that filling zeppelins with the stuff would be a waste.
@badegg4909
@badegg4909 7 жыл бұрын
Well, and if we get some genius coming along making vacuum airships. JS. that would be the "Cheapest" by envelope filler. but I suspect the envelope itself would be space age expensive.
@SuperBonobob
@SuperBonobob 7 жыл бұрын
But when something is stupid in hindsight then you know it really is stupid.
@SinaZarin
@SinaZarin 5 жыл бұрын
4.6k persians, mongols , turks and poles disliked this
@thegreatrainman2336
@thegreatrainman2336 4 жыл бұрын
Sina Zarin also everyone that knows anything about history this fool is throwing up all over himself with stupidity cav was a game changer
@potatotop9532
@potatotop9532 4 жыл бұрын
juan zatarain did u even watch the video
@stay10578
@stay10578 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatrainman2336 Did you just read the title and base your opinion off of that?
@tannhasuervonhohenstein3728
@tannhasuervonhohenstein3728 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatrainman2336 Horses could easily be beaten back by a wall of spears. Formations made to scare horses and kill them. When muskets came, they took an already used formation to go against horses. Cav were not easy to use. Also looking after thousands of men and a few hundred horses is a hard task alone.
@mihajlonovkovic3428
@mihajlonovkovic3428 4 жыл бұрын
Persians, Mongols/Turkic nomadic horsemen, Winged Hussars, Christian crusader knights, Russian Cossacks, thats just a small list.
@kevinstachovak8842
@kevinstachovak8842 3 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you'd lost it- cavalry was extremely useful for commanders, both tactically and as scouts. But then I decided to hear you out, and you are spot-on. It really is kind of amazing that horses were ever domesticated in the first place. The initial domestication must have taken nerves stronger than steel cable!
@fakecubed
@fakecubed 9 ай бұрын
We'd already had experience with domesticating dogs, goats, cattle, pigs, and even llamas, all of which can be difficult and dangerous in their own ways. Heck, two of those actually want to eat us. I imagine horses were fairly easy to domesticate after that, just build paddocks around them, or somehow drive them in. Perhaps first it was to slaughter for meat or use for milk, but having them around we would have come up with new uses over time, and by then the horses would be more used to be around humans and being handled by them in some way. Cavalry is pretty nuts, but it probably started with using them for carrying loads, then riding for travel, then it would've been a natural outgrowth to hunt from horseback, and eventually ride them into battle as commanders, and finally the cavalry charge.
@TheGoldenWarden
@TheGoldenWarden 4 жыл бұрын
"Tractor goes thundering past" As a rancher. That's a phrase I never thought I'd here in my life.
@ericolens3
@ericolens3 Жыл бұрын
🤣 lol I mean, have you tried racing a tractor before?
@noahhoward2883
@noahhoward2883 7 жыл бұрын
To clarify: this video isn't saying that cavalry was ineffective throughout history; it obviously wasn't. It's about the numerous problems that needed to be solved by ancient cultures in order for cavalry to become effective.
@WG55
@WG55 7 жыл бұрын
As usual, the commenters are judging the video based on the title.
@MrL702
@MrL702 7 жыл бұрын
Muh not denying its effectiveness throughout history but its a dumb idea.
@worldsfutureleader5952
@worldsfutureleader5952 7 жыл бұрын
alot of people need to see this, lindy has made a interesting video and instead people write a comment without watching it, sad really
@MrL702
@MrL702 7 жыл бұрын
World's Future Leader They have watched the video. Quit being a stuck up fanboy.
@worldsfutureleader5952
@worldsfutureleader5952 7 жыл бұрын
GetTrumped lol yeah, but they still don't understand
@dafuyoma
@dafuyoma 7 жыл бұрын
Cavalry is a stupid name. They should have called it "horse force".
@JonJon-dx3up
@JonJon-dx3up 7 жыл бұрын
bahahaha yes
@austin09jj
@austin09jj 7 жыл бұрын
genius
@wbnc66
@wbnc66 7 жыл бұрын
Umm cavalry is derived from the word caballus one of the latin words for horse, or mounted on a horse :D chevalier and cavalry mean "horseman"
@croisaor2308
@croisaor2308 7 жыл бұрын
"Stallion Battalion"
@austin09jj
@austin09jj 7 жыл бұрын
Croí Saor even better
@Abrogator91
@Abrogator91 3 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige: "Cavalry is a stupid idea." King Harlaus: "You wot mate?" Swadian knights go brrrrr
@oseanvega2199
@oseanvega2199 3 жыл бұрын
Calling cavalry stupid might actually get the Swadians to stop feasting.
@Nr9Boon
@Nr9Boon 3 жыл бұрын
Horses can't handle the epic mass of us butter lords
@natesprofile2630
@natesprofile2630 3 жыл бұрын
Dude what a beta. Sarranid Mamlukes are chad
@blacknosugar6836
@blacknosugar6836 3 жыл бұрын
Jeremus the Monk was knocked unconscious by Swadian Knight
@fadhli179
@fadhli179 3 жыл бұрын
Swadian and sarranid was using armored war horse, i think the calvary term in lindy mind was smiliar to khergit lancer (which obviously considered the worst melee cavalry, and the cheapest). Riding fast unarmored horse that was not good for anything except flanking manuver
@danhall6922
@danhall6922 4 жыл бұрын
Roman General crassus invaded Pathia "Using calvery is a stupid idea," Ends up drinking melted gold
@danhall6922
@danhall6922 3 жыл бұрын
@Yeast Yeast he was killed during negotiations but as the story goes his the parthians poured melted gold down the throat of his dead corpse... May well be a myth... May just be the truth... Pouring melted gold down the throat has been a recorded method of execution for some civilisations
@michaekrynicki8330
@michaekrynicki8330 3 жыл бұрын
@@danhall6922 seems wastefull
@SkywalkerExpress
@SkywalkerExpress 3 жыл бұрын
Caesar also has the same experience getting harassed by Numidian cavalry out in the open during the civil war in North Africa. The different is Caesar is not Crassus.
@JoeTheBroken
@JoeTheBroken 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaekrynicki8330 Just wait for the body to decompose, retrieve the gold from the skeleton a year or two later
@wowisthatgami8293
@wowisthatgami8293 3 жыл бұрын
Title says: "Cavalry WAS a stupid idea" not IS
@unjogratis936
@unjogratis936 5 жыл бұрын
*This Video is Sponsored by the Great Horses Plus*
@MaciejBogdanStepien
@MaciejBogdanStepien 4 жыл бұрын
You win :)
@quantumratio4311
@quantumratio4311 4 жыл бұрын
Made my day! :D
@scs-yt
@scs-yt 4 жыл бұрын
Wow amazingly done sir
@dELTA13579111315
@dELTA13579111315 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god when I thought of that a minute ago I thought I was gonna be the only one lmao. I'm glad to see that I'm not
@JohnSmith-wd1oq
@JohnSmith-wd1oq 4 жыл бұрын
Touche
@Bikeadelic
@Bikeadelic 4 жыл бұрын
If a dog is mans best friend then horses must be his greatest ally. The amount of work the horse has done for mankind over the millennia is phenomenal.
@morganpetros9635
@morganpetros9635 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, there's a reason it's called "horsepower" and not "dogpower" ...
@Bikeadelic
@Bikeadelic 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganpetros9635 you say it like its common sense but horses are very overlooked in terms of their contribution to humanities history.
@Sconni_Pirenjeski
@Sconni_Pirenjeski 2 жыл бұрын
What about cows?
@fredflintlocks9445
@fredflintlocks9445 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bikeadelic only because they've been replaced by steam/internal combustion for 3 generations now but even in WW2 successful cavalry charges were performed, and horses were used to carry artillery and baggage carts just like they have been for millennia.
@KrolKaz
@KrolKaz 2 жыл бұрын
It's still animal slavery and ultimate animal abuse.
@mangogoat8195
@mangogoat8195 4 жыл бұрын
"I have once been bareback riding, and boy do you have to grip with your thighs" What a quote
@NLTops
@NLTops 3 жыл бұрын
You ride horses bareback? You must be a Mangolian.
@muhamadsayyidabidin3906
@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 3 жыл бұрын
@@NLTops *Numidian
@NLTops
@NLTops 3 жыл бұрын
@@muhamadsayyidabidin3906 *it was a joke mixing his name and a nomadic equestrian culture. Go bother someone else.
@apandas_am5635
@apandas_am5635 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched that part, that’s what he said
@bobo0202
@bobo0202 3 жыл бұрын
When I ride bareback, I hold her thighs
@owenkeller2748
@owenkeller2748 3 жыл бұрын
Can we circle back to this “trousers glued on a bull” idea? I think we have some potential here.
@Patrick-dj9dd
@Patrick-dj9dd 7 жыл бұрын
Thesis of the video: Cavalry was a laughable idea and something that would have appeared impossible to the cultures that adopted the method of warfare. This is not discrediting the efficiency of cavalry. This is not denying the impact that cavalry had in warfare. This is simply a statement about the initial thoughts that people would have when presented with the idea of cavalry. What people are (incorrectly) perceiving Lloyd to be saying: Cavalry's bad
@Nicholas2727
@Nicholas2727 7 жыл бұрын
+
@MateuszZakowski
@MateuszZakowski 7 жыл бұрын
For me it was a simple clickbait.
@tzenophile
@tzenophile 7 жыл бұрын
+Patrick Except that this is exactly what he IS saying, in the very first sentence: "Using horses in warfare as cavalry is a stupid idea and that is what I am going to talk about in this video." What are YOU perceiving that he is saying in that sentence?
@Patrick-dj9dd
@Patrick-dj9dd 7 жыл бұрын
tzenophile He wasn't saying cavalry was a bad tactic, he was saying the idea of riding around on a horse trying to kill people on foot was likely perceived to be stupid before it became a prevalent military technique. Nobody would know that cavalry would win many battles and that in shock tactics they were supreme when the idea first came along, so it must have just sounded absurd.
@tzenophile
@tzenophile 7 жыл бұрын
He is not using the word "was", he is using the word "is". He is being disingenuous, or, in other words, trolling.
@itsnotatoober
@itsnotatoober 5 жыл бұрын
Mongols: "Hold my fermented horse milk."
@RiceMan31
@RiceMan31 4 жыл бұрын
Hold my Koumiss
@triangulum8869
@triangulum8869 4 жыл бұрын
Ahmet Akın Aydoğdu The mongols were actually just entirely horses disguised as humans.
@RiceMan31
@RiceMan31 4 жыл бұрын
@@triangulum8869 Wait, you weren't supposed to know that.
@musab9424
@musab9424 3 жыл бұрын
@@triangulum8869 I heard that centaurs are inspired by them because they are in a perfect accordance with horses so they are like a piece of horse
@JustScrapHD
@JustScrapHD 3 жыл бұрын
didnt use mongols primarily use horses for archers?
@panthebread4330
@panthebread4330 3 жыл бұрын
*the mongols are typing* *the takeda clan is typing* *polish huzzars are typing*
@Khorne_of_the_Hill
@Khorne_of_the_Hill 3 жыл бұрын
Is the takeda clan at all related to the pharmaceutical company?
@diddlypoop4722
@diddlypoop4722 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khorne_of_the_Hill samurai clan.
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 3 жыл бұрын
when you miss the point of the video
@Bollibompa
@Bollibompa 3 жыл бұрын
Are you commenting the title only?
@wowisthatgami8293
@wowisthatgami8293 3 жыл бұрын
"Cavalry WAS a stupid idea". WAS
@kirtash5597
@kirtash5597 4 жыл бұрын
-"Cavalry was a stupid idea" -Alexander The Great: "now listen here little shit"
@keithau8159
@keithau8159 2 жыл бұрын
Not agree at all.Rome period,in fact in iron stage,lot of tools regarding to different usage were invented.Stand on ground small,middle and huge size catapult,mechanical powerful spring single and multiple shoots of box were invented and widely make use of them in warfare and that is why Rome empire had huge wide territories in middle east area.but in fact the most trouble zone in ancient time.Well it is and seem logical cavalry are easy triggered,however all horses wearing suitable light weight steel or heavy steel protective armor,all four legs equipped with scythe long at back and short in front while charging in formation or units,together with horse 4-6-8 wheels wagon with small and middle catapult installed in the deck,would be very dangerous and deadly and powerful weapons as modern days using of tanks and howitzers as formation units at all.Agree.😁😂😀
@feartheghus
@feartheghus 5 жыл бұрын
I can tell you why the first horses were ridden, it was quite probably not done for any advantage like using them for work or travel or combat, I bet it was just some idiots having a hold my beer moment.
@Tombombadillo999
@Tombombadillo999 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Johnson thought the same, quite logical tbh
@GumaroRVillamil
@GumaroRVillamil 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention riding a horse is pretty cool. Even if just for getting around, it looks imposing. It could have also begun as a sort of status symbol. A "Look, Im a great chieftain and I can maintain these beautiful beasts", sort of thing
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 5 жыл бұрын
hahahhaha Bob I never thought of it that way but oh man I just know you are right, this exactly how these things happen! "Hold my beer, watch this bro, I can totally jump on that thing and make it carry me around."
@novy9032
@novy9032 5 жыл бұрын
@Bob Johnson It all probably developed into a rodeo after that.
@olenickel6013
@olenickel6013 5 жыл бұрын
I'd suspect that riding horses was more of a thing that kids of nomad tribes started doing. Maybe parents put them on horseback with their baggage when they moved to new pastoral grounds and kids growing up with that might grow up to ride around on horseback. As horses grew bigger and probably with some experimentation in the sort of skirmish battlefields that would occur on the steppes and with knowledge of chariot warfare but without the economy to actually produce chariots, cavalry might have slowly evolved and then reached a point that it became efficient enough to produce an "oh shit"-moment when these tribes started raiding the civilized city states in the middle east.
@neuralkernel
@neuralkernel 7 жыл бұрын
Still not as stupid as trying to knife fight from the top of a sandworm...
@nicholaswatson2725
@nicholaswatson2725 7 жыл бұрын
good sir, revoke that statement, i believe that knife fighting on the top of a sand worm is a very clever way of carrying out your legacy, you sir are incorrect and mistaking the bad-assery of fighting on the top of a sand worm with a knife in your hand with it not being as brilliant as Leonardo Da Vinci himself!
@ahoosifoou4211
@ahoosifoou4211 7 жыл бұрын
if you have a long as lance then i guess riding sandworms would be worth it.
@TimothySnowman
@TimothySnowman 7 жыл бұрын
mmmmmmm... Shai-Hulud.
@SatanicBunny666
@SatanicBunny666 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who rode horses for more than 10 years actively I often been thinking about this. Like, I'm not the greatest rider out there, but I'm pretty comfortable on horseback even at high speeds, but that's without all the massive weight and gear required for combat. The idea of efficiently maneuvering the horse while at the same time trying to hit people with a weapon and not dying is just baffling to me. Obviously it can be done as proven by history, but the amount of skill it takes both from the people who need to breed and condition the horses as well as the guys doing the actual riding is massive. It does explain why (if my memory serves me correctly) adjusted for inflation the price of a single medieval knight's horse and equipment adjusted for inflation is more than the price of a large modern house.
@themcchuck8400
@themcchuck8400 3 жыл бұрын
That's why being a knight was a profession. They spent a lifetime in training and practice.
@riftvallance2087
@riftvallance2087 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the jousting competition history channel ran. As it turned out the people who did the best with it were the professional horse trainers. The people with the most riding experience and the people with the best understanding of horses
@Kombatfaountain4
@Kombatfaountain4 3 жыл бұрын
@Bold well knights in the most basic of terms were simply soldiers who rode horses. Their social standing really varied depending on time period and country. You’re thinking of lords (which all knights were generally lords or land owners but not all lords were knights) but primarily they were cavalry soldiers above all other things
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 3 жыл бұрын
The cavalry only survived into modern times because it was beneath the dignity of the landed gentry to walk into battle. The history of warfare shows that cavalry charges were rarely effective against a determined body of infantrymen, and that after one good charge the surviving horses were blown and unfit for further action. Even if they charged successfully, their momentum often carried them straight off the field and they were of no further use to their generals. It was a hopelessly inefficient form of warfare. The successful horsemen were those either used for reconnaissance or the bowmen or mounted infantry used for harassing actions. To quote Punch "The use of cavalry is to give tone to what would otherwise be a mere vulgar brawl".
@maipes
@maipes 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with a degree in horses, your horse knowledge really impressed me. Spot on.
@ScholarofProspero
@ScholarofProspero 6 ай бұрын
degree in horse
@Weykpotis
@Weykpotis 5 жыл бұрын
"I have once been bareback riding, and so I can tell you that it's-- it's... _boy_ you have to grip with your thighs." -- Lindybeige, 2016.
@TheRealParsonz
@TheRealParsonz 4 жыл бұрын
glad i wasn't the only one who heard this xD
@jamesmacleod9382
@jamesmacleod9382 4 жыл бұрын
Talking about sex without a condom?
@gollumisahomie5671
@gollumisahomie5671 4 жыл бұрын
Not really that much unless your trotting
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 4 жыл бұрын
After gripping with your thighs every day for 14 years I'm sure they got the hang of it.
@legostarwarsbattledroid5272
@legostarwarsbattledroid5272 4 жыл бұрын
I read this as he said this
@Arcsinner
@Arcsinner 7 жыл бұрын
You can see that Lindy is now biased, because he has a sponsor. It is well known, that "The Great Courses Plus" hates horses
@worldsfutureleader5952
@worldsfutureleader5952 7 жыл бұрын
maybe they don't want horses to be smart too?
@skellious
@skellious 7 жыл бұрын
You'd think they'd be in favour of horses considering the expression "horses for courses"
@deektedrgg
@deektedrgg 7 жыл бұрын
Normally dropping a sponsor in the middle of a video would be annoying to me, but for some reason, this method of sponsoring really fits Lindy.
@q1w2e3621
@q1w2e3621 7 жыл бұрын
+
@eruantien9932
@eruantien9932 7 жыл бұрын
Though, many years ago, Lloyd did say that cavalry was, for a long time, a ridiculously stupid idea compared to chariots. Maybe that's why they get along so well!
@Khorne_of_the_Hill
@Khorne_of_the_Hill 3 жыл бұрын
I once went horseback riding, and the horse freaked the Fuck out because it saw a peacock
@MishaAbr2004
@MishaAbr2004 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the reason stirrups became more popular than the roman saddle is that you can stand up in them. This not only means that your horse can gallop longer (due to a more even weight distribution than while sitting down), but also provided an advantage in combat as this allowed you to make your strikes more powerful by allowing you to put your whole weight behind it. Also it provided a defensive advantage as standing up made your upper body harder to reach.
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097
@yorkshire_tea_innit8097 7 жыл бұрын
Horses naturally run in groups, they form stampedes. That would make it much easier to convince a horse to do a cav charge. Peer pressure.
@mistersharpe4375
@mistersharpe4375 7 жыл бұрын
And when you are the typical combatant of a pre-industrial army (a farmer who only tagged along for loot), nothing is really going to convince you to stand your ground when facing something like that. First you falter, then you turn, you run, your buddies do the same and the fight is technically over.
@BeenSauce
@BeenSauce 7 жыл бұрын
+Mister Sharpe Isn't that the point?
@Yotanido
@Yotanido 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. He was reinforcing his point, not contradicting it...
@GamesFromSpace
@GamesFromSpace 7 жыл бұрын
Except that the horses would be much more likely to stampede away from the enemy, because they're not stupid.
@cynicalpsycho5574
@cynicalpsycho5574 7 жыл бұрын
next they'll all be smoking to try and fit in...
@raiderfox7229
@raiderfox7229 5 жыл бұрын
Cavalry was a stupid idea. *THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED*
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie 5 жыл бұрын
My great great etc. Grandfather was at Vienna in 1683 as a Winged Hussar. I reenact him with full armor and kopia. Europe's best Cavalry!
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 5 жыл бұрын
One day I'd love to meet someone who brags "My great-etc-great ancestor was a Polish brothel prostitute. I reenact him/her in traditional costume ..."
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 5 жыл бұрын
Raider Fox Goddamit I literally came here to comment that
@Iskandr314
@Iskandr314 4 жыл бұрын
Cataphrakts*
@jasper677
@jasper677 4 жыл бұрын
True Born Son of Liberty lol alone with people claiming on youtube to be sons of polish hussars/napoleonic war heroes/viking descendants you could reenact these events. Funniest thing: theyre all from america, where its the easiest to tell your son whatever you like because yiu fled your homecountry and any evidence
@40jwthomas
@40jwthomas 3 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty crazy that Alexander the Great conquered “the world” without stirrups
@Parhelion2
@Parhelion2 4 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that standing up in the saddle was an important part of Calvary. Driving the power of your thrust into your legs rather than your lower back sound like a more powerful move to me.
@bradleythebuilder8743
@bradleythebuilder8743 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most sexual non-sexual comment that I have ever seen. I need to go deal with something......
@colinbunn6066
@colinbunn6066 5 жыл бұрын
I understand this guy's arguments... but the Mongol's case is just stronger.
@santiagocortez9554
@santiagocortez9554 4 жыл бұрын
they used bows gve them two advantages, speed and range. AND that type of army was kinda new to everyone else, and if it were seen today it wouldve kinda looked like when Adolf invaded poland with tanks and modern tactics.
@_Muzolf
@_Muzolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@santiagocortez9554 It really wasn`t new. It was just forgotten by a lot of people, but the Hungarians (Ironically, the last european nation the mongols reached, and almost destroyed. ) used the exact same tactics centuries before and menaced most of europe before going native and adopting christianity and the european feudal system.
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 4 жыл бұрын
Orpheus Program I think the arguement is for the origin of cavalry, not when it was already established
@barbatvs8959
@barbatvs8959 4 жыл бұрын
@@_Muzolf Mary-worshippers aren't Christian.
@_Muzolf
@_Muzolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@barbatvs8959 Lol "Mary Worshippers" i suppose this is aimed at Catholics? So tell me, what religion should one convert to in the year 1000? You know, before protestants even existed? Oh, btw, Hungary has plenty of Protestants itself these days. If you only consider them "true christians". Of course this kind of exclusion of essentially what is the majority of christianity (Considering if you don't consider Catholics true christians, then i guess you would exlude Eastern Ortohox ones too, since they are closer to Catholicism as to protestants.) is rather dumb.
@mokopa
@mokopa 7 жыл бұрын
I heard "this video was sponsored by Great Horses Plus"
@htf5555
@htf5555 7 жыл бұрын
So this was all horse propaganda
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 6 жыл бұрын
Courses are for horses. *xfiles.mid*
@martinthedrainedsedlak
@martinthedrainedsedlak 6 жыл бұрын
Osmorosvo hahahaha
@pugilist102
@pugilist102 6 жыл бұрын
The Barbarian Empires of the Steppes, from the Great Courses Plus, actually covers the topics discussed in this video.
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 5 жыл бұрын
Stop horse abuse now! Donate $9,99 a month to stop the abuse of the horse.
@secretbaguette
@secretbaguette 3 жыл бұрын
4:02-4:13 11 straight seconds of Lloyd yelling about crisp packets.
@oliverminns3368
@oliverminns3368 4 жыл бұрын
What about shock cavalry before the romans were a power, like Persian or Thessalian, that Alexander the Great used???
@Evili555
@Evili555 3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s talking about how Calvary sucks for melee combat which is true.
@Bollibompa
@Bollibompa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Evili555 No. He explained how it _was_ a bad idea before clever innovations were made.
@Evili555
@Evili555 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bollibompa which is true
@cato3016
@cato3016 2 жыл бұрын
@@Evili555 Doesn’t answer the question. Alexander’s heavy cavalry rode their horses bareback but we’re still used to great effect in battle. I would imagine that saddles and stirrups made it a lot easier to fight on horseback, but it was never actually impossible even before they were invented.
@adrianglennbionat
@adrianglennbionat 7 жыл бұрын
riding bareback....I like the sound of that.
@Achiles5th
@Achiles5th 7 жыл бұрын
You will have no thighs (not to mention the non-mentionables) after two hours...................don't ask it was a weird vacation.
@emcdavee
@emcdavee 7 жыл бұрын
+Monark Roy The joke went straight over your head
@octemberfury
@octemberfury 7 жыл бұрын
hmmm.. OR DID IT?
@Achiles5th
@Achiles5th 7 жыл бұрын
Don't pull a Lady Godiva, never pull a lady Godiva.
@emcdavee
@emcdavee 7 жыл бұрын
+octemberfury touché
@TalonSky
@TalonSky 7 жыл бұрын
Normally a fan of your work, but this one falls REALLY flat. Yes, undomesticated, untrained horses are a bad idea in battle. Which is why the cultures that utilized them trained them, raised them from birth, practiced with them every day, and invented devices to aid in these endeavors. The armies who had cavalry historically had a GREAT advantage over those who didn't.
@amysusername1
@amysusername1 7 жыл бұрын
The title was inaccurate, probably to get more clicks, but his point wasn't that cavalry was never useful, it's that it was not useful for most of human history, until stirrups and pommels were invented.
@garretphegley8796
@garretphegley8796 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't know what the outcome would be it just kind of happened. So original cavalry was a stupid idea.
@OleSAO
@OleSAO 7 жыл бұрын
It's like saying flying was a horrible idea... The first airplanes were quite bad and people died.
@randalftheblack2572
@randalftheblack2572 7 жыл бұрын
You should really watch a video from start to finish before commenting..
@johnconstantin4100
@johnconstantin4100 7 жыл бұрын
my friend Rome hadn't cavlary until make the gauls federats so the where fine and after that they didnt liked using cavlay much and thats the longest lasting empire in our world (if we dont count China as an empire)
@AlexRetsam
@AlexRetsam 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts as to why stirrups would replace 4 pommelled saddles: - Like you mentioned, stirrups are an aid to mounting/dismounting, which would be especially useful as larger horses were bred and put to use -There are benefits to having different saddle designs depending on what the rider is doing or wearing i.e long distance comfort or cavalry charges or hugely armoured buttocks. Stirrups help everyone stay in the saddle but change the seat to suit their needs -Being able to stand up is an enormous advantage. You can use different weapons, ride different terrain and JUMP your brave steed over obstacles that would otherwise be impossible -Stirrups also make controlling the horse with just your knees much more effective, freeing up your hands to smite your enemies more effectively. If pressure on your saddle with your thighs is what's keeping you on the horse, you're not going to be able to train a horse to be steered by your knees and therefore you're a slave to the reigns
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 3 жыл бұрын
Years back, I served with the 3rd Armored Cavalry, of course the only horses we had were for parade use, and not for battle, they had been replaced by armor, tanks, armored personal carriers and armored command tracks. When I was a young boy living on our farm, I grew up riding bareback on one of our 3 horses, we had Barney, Lady and Babe, Barney was a Shetland/quarter horse cross, Lady was a huge work horse, and Lady was a younger quarter horse that could run like the wind. Barney was a very tame horse, he would do anything for we kids but hated adults. When dad or mom would approach Barney he would nip at them or turn and ready a kick, however we kids could climb all over him, ride him and if we would fall off, he would stop dead and stand there looking at us till we got back up and remounted. Lady was skittish, she would shy away from things like you mentioned, once she was galloping along with me on her back, down the dirt road that ran past our farm. For some reason she went down into the grassy ditch that was beside the road, when she got near the fence, a large post came along, she shyed away from that and threw me right over the fence onto the soft tall grass that was nice enough to break my fall and not my bones. Babe, being a HUGE horse like to prance. Now if you have ever ridden a horse you would know that a trot is a sort of rough near run, a prance is more of a marching by a horse, a sort of trotting walk if you will, and when riding bareback it just beat the hell out of your but, but when she went into a gallop, the way we kids loved to ride, her gate was so smooth you would think you were riding the rocking horse machine outside the grocery store. Lady's gallop was even smoother, Barney could gallop but only a short distance as he was a very old horse.
@ivan55599
@ivan55599 7 жыл бұрын
*Early cavarly was a stupid idea. Fixed. Your welcome.
@DrSmokeTrees
@DrSmokeTrees 7 жыл бұрын
You fixed nothing. STFU you pedantic douche. No one likes you.
@spazzmaticus1542
@spazzmaticus1542 7 жыл бұрын
*you're
@christopherknorr2895
@christopherknorr2895 7 жыл бұрын
+Nathan Brinkerhoff You're doing the Lord's work. Bless you sir.
@oBCHANo
@oBCHANo 7 жыл бұрын
Modern cavalry is a pretty retarded concept too, anything you could do on horseback you could do better on foot, other than running fast.
@airborne2767
@airborne2767 7 жыл бұрын
oBLACKIECHANoo No middle calavary was the worst.
@tomtom7955
@tomtom7955 5 жыл бұрын
if horses where a terrible idea i cant wait for the elephant video
@walterbell1529
@walterbell1529 5 жыл бұрын
Fenrir World-Eater one war animal that that everyone can agree on, that was awful in battle was the rhinoceros
@tyson6127
@tyson6127 5 жыл бұрын
@@walterbell1529 The chicken was pretty bad as well
@kathyhalton8352
@kathyhalton8352 5 жыл бұрын
@@tyson6127 Wait till you try a banana
@dravenocklost4253
@dravenocklost4253 5 жыл бұрын
@@walterbell1529 please give me something to Google to research this
@wateriestfire
@wateriestfire 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqabe3Vpjb1nhas
@didekjozwiak
@didekjozwiak 3 жыл бұрын
"Random Brit rambles about horses for 17 minutes and 45 seconds"
@a.s7902
@a.s7902 3 жыл бұрын
Random? This is the Beigeman you're talking about here! Show some respect lad!
@katyungodly
@katyungodly 3 жыл бұрын
Random?! This is LINDYBEIGE!!!
@andrzejpetrenko852
@andrzejpetrenko852 3 жыл бұрын
With stirrups it's easier to lift yourself and lean forward while riding on horse, it helps during charge with a spear or a lance.
@typorad
@typorad 7 жыл бұрын
Drinking milk from a cow was a stupid idea... until it wasn't. Humans couldn't always digest milk.
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 7 жыл бұрын
Who do you think was the brave man that tried to go grab a 1300-2000lb beast? Also, why don't we drink milk from any other animals? (Hardly anyone drinks goats milk, and I don't know of any other animal we drink milk from.)
@mrswan7745
@mrswan7745 7 жыл бұрын
+Mrjohnnymoo1 Uhh, lots and lots and lots of people drink goats milk. Ever heard of this place called "Not North America"?
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 7 жыл бұрын
Jaxon Duin I personally grew up with goats, and cannot stand goats milk, or cheese. I was saying is there any animals other than cows and goats that people drink milk from. Granted in the U.S people don't drink it, I acknowledged people still drink it :)
@evm7272
@evm7272 7 жыл бұрын
+Mrjohnnymoo1 The biggest reason for people not drinking goats milk (excluding south america) is due to its expensive nature. Goats dont produce much milk, and it is therefore in short supply. I personally love goat milk products
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 7 жыл бұрын
Evin M I don't think I have met a person in America that enjoy's goat products. Although, I don't know where you are.
@BanditoBurrito
@BanditoBurrito 7 жыл бұрын
But cavalry wins me battles in Total War :
@toxictoz2042
@toxictoz2042 7 жыл бұрын
noo cretan and syrian archers do ;)
@matan8074
@matan8074 7 жыл бұрын
medieval 2 knight's to rear, goodbye noobs.
@NK-ph4ot
@NK-ph4ot 7 жыл бұрын
Dragoons are best. infantry+cavalry
@yourethatmantis5178
@yourethatmantis5178 7 жыл бұрын
cavalry is stupid I don't need them in my armies (10 seconds later) "this is a black day! our General has fallen my lord!" (5 more seconds later) "our men are running from the battlefield! a shameful dispray!"
@bobuscesar2534
@bobuscesar2534 7 жыл бұрын
+You'reThatMantis And than the enemy cavalry kills the rest. They were so useless like firearms useless.
@Godstud
@Godstud 4 жыл бұрын
5.7K people didn't watch the video, and went by the title. :) Also, cheese and onion go fantastically together.
@harryfloros8796
@harryfloros8796 2 жыл бұрын
But they belong in a green packet. Putting them in a blue one, rather than the traditional salt and vinegar is just rude. And unnecessary. Like randomly changing the recipe of Coca Cola.
@johnmccrossan9376
@johnmccrossan9376 3 жыл бұрын
"The horses that get to breed are the ones men want" Mlp wierdos: CORRECT
@TM-ui6wx
@TM-ui6wx 7 жыл бұрын
Cavalry is more maneuverable and hence has it's advantages. Checkmate. Now shave your beard.
@TM-ui6wx
@TM-ui6wx 7 жыл бұрын
+Brute127 +Brute127 Care to add anything besides assuming I didn't watch the video? I watched the video. A man with an English accent and one barebacking experience is not somehow an expert. Don't be fooled. Calvery was used for a reason. Warfare is more than running into a group and bashing someone. This man's thesis is astoundingly stupid.
@franciscodanconia3551
@franciscodanconia3551 7 жыл бұрын
His beard would defeat any "calvery" with its epic beardiness.
@twiliblade
@twiliblade 7 жыл бұрын
so you didn't watch the video with your ears on....
@Tigerheart01
@Tigerheart01 7 жыл бұрын
It's spelled "CAVALRY" you moron. That's been pointed out to you in sarcastic statements already that you've obviously missed. If you ACTUALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO he explained WHY it took so long for true cavalry to actually become a fighting unit. It started with Chariots and then eventually EVOLVED into armored knights riding in saddles with well bred and trained warhorses. However, you saw the title, listened to 2 minutes and then decided to post your moronic statements.
@origamiscienceguy6658
@origamiscienceguy6658 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Mountain that Jesus died on is much more maneuverable. That is why you see a bunch of sentient crosses hopping around the battlefield.
@melihism
@melihism 4 жыл бұрын
Early cavalry wasn't used to charge on a line of men but rather to chase already routed enemies.
@FlameDarkfire
@FlameDarkfire 4 жыл бұрын
For most of history cavalry’s main purpose was to pursue and cut down retreating enemy forces. Alexander used cavalry as shock troops and in pre-modern and modern era cavalry fought each other, but their main purpose was routing the enemy.
@carl-os4603
@carl-os4603 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlameDarkfire also covering light infantry/support units (slingers/javelinners/archers/ambushers/horse support units), dont forget about charging from backside or flanks, some types of cavalry even charged in front of heavy infantry (late knights, catafracts), only light support cavalry were supposed to pursue enemies. And EVERY type of cavalry was weak in meele combat against ANY infantry (cavalry had advantages only in charging and moving speed).
@yimboninja7415
@yimboninja7415 4 жыл бұрын
That the hell man! Cant believe I gave you a view for this!
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 4 жыл бұрын
It was also used to scout for the enemy pre-battle, harass them while they were moving to and setting up for battle, and to turn their flanks by using the horse's superior speed during the battle. The use of cavalry for warfare IS NOT stupid. Using cavalry INCORRECTLY in warfare is stupid.
@revanati222
@revanati222 4 жыл бұрын
Speed, scouting, harrassment, and ability to run down or outflank an enemy force at it's weakest. You wouldn't use cavalry to smash into the front of a prepared and determined enemy force, thats the job of another infantry unit, to pin that unit into place. You would strike a unit from an unprepared flank with cavalry, or to route a wavering or inexperience foe.
@alecparks8680
@alecparks8680 4 жыл бұрын
From the words of corb lund ''I want to be in the calvary If they send me off to war I want a good steed under me like my forefathers before I want a good mount when the bugle sounds"
@cristian-ionutapostol8018
@cristian-ionutapostol8018 4 жыл бұрын
People misunderstand this video so hard. He's not saying Cavlary IS a stupid idea, but rather that when it was first devised it would've been seen as a stupid idea, because back then horses were skittish, petite draft animals, not hardy, war-capable mounts, and because there was no equipment or technique for doing something like that yet.
@exudeku
@exudeku 5 жыл бұрын
Minutes later... *AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!*
@Pigen_
@Pigen_ 5 жыл бұрын
*Polish Christian songs intensifies*
@pongangelo2048
@pongangelo2048 5 жыл бұрын
Genghis Khan is laughing at the distance.
@notatruck2640
@notatruck2640 5 жыл бұрын
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE!
@DawidDVD
@DawidDVD 5 жыл бұрын
The high ground intensifies
@tynanroyhiggins
@tynanroyhiggins 5 жыл бұрын
I literally came here to post this comment myself lol. Ottoman Empire btfo.
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 7 жыл бұрын
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED COME AND TURNED THE TIDE
@gururumon916
@gururumon916 7 жыл бұрын
Probably listened to that album about thirty times now.
@alfsonderslagna8316
@alfsonderslagna8316 7 жыл бұрын
Let it spread
@germanrifle
@germanrifle 7 жыл бұрын
i came here for this not disapointed
@birddogg62
@birddogg62 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best response to this stupid video. Way better then something about those god damn Mongolians, lol.
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 7 жыл бұрын
+Gebirgsjäger they did sort of. The real bullshit is that they took down all videos from youtube for copyright reasons
@luismariomiller5707
@luismariomiller5707 4 жыл бұрын
There is this thing on horseback riding where you lift yourself while the horse lifts it's back. It keeps you from bouncing all around the horse making much easier to control yourself and it's also easier on the horse. It also helps a lot if you want to aim a bow or a Lance precisely. Important things in cavalry. None of this can be achieved with a Celtic chair. That's why you use a stirrup.
@balangigahonorandsacrifice3836
@balangigahonorandsacrifice3836 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the last mounted charge by a US cavalry unit was in Moring, Philippines in WW2. It worked.
@fakesummer3942
@fakesummer3942 7 жыл бұрын
So many people have failed to comprehend the point of this video...
@gunmunz
@gunmunz 7 жыл бұрын
it's the bren vs mg42 all over again
@snakycake4790
@snakycake4790 7 жыл бұрын
The point is, Cavalry was a brilliant idea and essential to any strategic victory
@PumpkinHeadJim
@PumpkinHeadJim 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, the point is blah blah blah I'm smart, look at me everyone I'm smart. fuck this dumb shit. rocks were stupid to use as tools. should have invented tools
@jomen112
@jomen112 7 жыл бұрын
Half the world is less intelligent than the other half. Considering there is 140k views at the time of writing, I let the reader do the math.
@bobuscesar2534
@bobuscesar2534 7 жыл бұрын
+big “Neckass” jim Well that's what he is basically saying but it's more like :"stones are stupid they should have used their hands! ' because you have more control of it'?"
@bronkobrumby776
@bronkobrumby776 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, at the same time, you made a few good points, but also made some faults. Let's start step by step: -Armed riders in Europe started around 800 BC with the East Hallstatt Culture, we have iconography like the beltplate of Vace, Slowenia, which shows mounted warriors, and we have the archaeological pendants like Kleinklein, Steiermark, Austria. Iconography, specially the early ones, are hard to believe or are just not enough detailed to get a good image, but when those illustrations, correspond to actual archaeological findings, it becomes clearer. And those guys rode their horses with no real saddles, at lest non with a wooden tree, like the celtic/roman saddles, so it was more like an riding pad, in best case. And it worked, when your riding skills were good. - Horses often get seen as skittish prey creatures, but modern ethology shows significant differences. An example is the gender. In a wild herd, the "leading mare" (leading behaviors is also a very complex topic, and don't work like a pyramid hierarchy as most people think in horses, but this is not relevant for this video) is responsable fr leading the herd to water, food an safety. The "leading stallion" is responsable to keep the herd together and protect the herd from predators, so that the "leading mare" can guide the herd members to a safe place. Do you have an idea how often wild stallions fight and defeat and sometimes (but rare) even kill attacking predators? So in average stallions are braver and more agressive as females, what also explains any kind of historical iconography that the artists and craftsmen showed clearly that the war horses used where stallions. Same for the written sources, at least in best case. So oft curse the people of the past searched and used horses (primarily stallions, but there a few archaeological exceptons, but very rare) who have the necessary braveness and agression. Today those character tread, became less important and it's hard to find such a horse today, because breeding changed, today most horses are working animals or companions in sport and hobby. But even today you find such old bloodlines with very distinctive character trades of the past time, like the Camargue ponies, old Spanish bloodlines, often used for bull fights or robust ponies, who are all less skittish than more modern breeds like the British pure blood. And of course in this very small percentage you find exceptional well conditioned individuals for that kind of job, same as with humans. If you ever meet Zogo, the Murgese stallion of Joram van Essen, and know the destrier of Mike Canfor, or meeting Aragon the old Spanish blood Gelding, who is trained at the moment, by an archaeologist (don't know the name of Aragon's owner, the FB channel don't mentions that) for experiments, you will understand what i mean. Those horses are incredible different from modern breeds, Arne Koets told me (who works with the owner of Aragon for example, that Aragon needed just 5 mins to desensitize from plate armor and being able to do all speeds, without any negative reaction or fear, what is totally different to what you would expect from a horse. So we can tell, that the horses used for combat, where a specific type of character and talent, specialy for the elite, who was usual mounted in most cultures. -Stirrup experiments and researches are done atm, but no result published atm, so more will follow, for example by Lisa Kyre from Germany. -As far as we can tell, horses even in the late medieval period, where not that large as we may think of. The average stays between 150 and 155cm with some exceptions. Similar sizes we can see in roman cavalierly or other periods for example, Sutton Hoo Burial mound 17, a around 8 year old stallion between 152cm of shoulder height. A well treated horse of that size, weight between 450 and 500 kg. Riders say that a horse can, wen well riden, carry a third of his body weight without any risk. So even for late XV century knights, with a full plate suit, which weights (field suit) around 25kg, plus the rider an tack (no full horse armor) you lay around 95 to 105 kg of additional weight. That's still far away from the critical third of the horses body weight. And we know, how well trained those horses of the XV century were. Similar is it with any kind of armor, no matter what period, the armors used for battle from horseback were never that heavy, of course not. With shield and a full coat of mail, with a closed helmet as Arne, André, Joram, and Milan wears for example, it is maybe 30kg of gear depending of the shield. So weight is not a critical factor. There's so much more to say about, but that would be to much, so just here the few most important points. Some references: facebook.com/RijClinicsArneKoets/ facebook.com/destrier.lucilinburhuc/ kzbin.infovideos Some Literature: C.Hornig. Das spätsächsische Gräberfeld von Rullstorf (Leihdorf 1993). M. Carver, Sutton Hoo, a seventh-century princely burial and its context (2005). M. Carver, Sutton Hoo, Burialground of Kings? Britishmuseum (2005). W. Gerbers, Auf dem Weg nach Wallhall. Das Pferd der Altsachsen, Begleiter durch Leben und Tod (Lohne 2004). M. Rech (Hrsg), Pferdeopfer-Reiterkrieger. Fahren und Reiten durch die Jahrtausende (Bremen 2006). A. Hyland, The medieval war horse, from Byzantium to the Crusades (New York 1990). H. Müller, Albrecht Dürer. Waffen und Rüstungen (Berlin 2002). j. Clark, Medieval horse and it's equipment, c,1150- 1450, Medieval find from excavations in London (London 2011) J.C Smith, Dürer. Arts & Ideas (vienna 2012).
@drakevandiver340
@drakevandiver340 4 жыл бұрын
Well played
@feministkitozwierzeta.krow763
@feministkitozwierzeta.krow763 4 жыл бұрын
GG WP
@buttermonkeyFTW
@buttermonkeyFTW 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t read it but since you USED PROPER SOURCES Ima assume you’re good
@bronkobrumby776
@bronkobrumby776 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yea well, thanks XD It's a topic, which just starts to get researched, so clearer results will follow hopefully soon. Sure good sources are important.
@mylordandsaviour4786
@mylordandsaviour4786 4 жыл бұрын
Bronko Brumby, you are a good man. Thank you
@nickscurvy8635
@nickscurvy8635 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but love lindybeige because he harnesses the childlike wonder and excitement of a 9 year old coupled with the expertise and intellect of a professor.
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously, horses are stupid as a war mount, instead a camel has a built-in organic saddle, and you can also mount gatling guns, for extra flanking power.
@Rickenbacker69
@Rickenbacker69 6 жыл бұрын
We Swedes had the stupidest idea, though - moose cavalry! Didn't quite work out, but the trials must have been both impressive and hilarious.
@Tombombadillo999
@Tombombadillo999 5 жыл бұрын
Mats Nylund sweden is still famous for bogus and illusioned decisions (e.g modern politics are a good example). Very sadly, as its a beautifull country.
@analogdistortion
@analogdistortion 5 жыл бұрын
And painful
@Brashnir
@Brashnir 5 жыл бұрын
didn't you guys also make cannons out of ice?
@CraftQueenJr
@CraftQueenJr 5 жыл бұрын
Mats Nylund thanks for that mental image.
@stronggirlsuperheroineonli5094
@stronggirlsuperheroineonli5094 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that was the Soviet army?
@Adumb_
@Adumb_ 7 жыл бұрын
Why did they ever change Salt and Vinegar from Blue to Green, and Cheese and Onion from Green to Blue? Whats next? Yellow Ready Salted? It doesn't bear thinking about.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 7 жыл бұрын
Bloody Walkers!
@iota-09
@iota-09 7 жыл бұрын
i guess because in italy cinegar is commonly deoucted as yellow or green, and there are instances of cheese and onions depicted as blue, but we're talking about the uk here so i dunno.
@JOB891
@JOB891 7 жыл бұрын
In China, Ready Salted/original flavour Lays (walkers) are yellow.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 7 жыл бұрын
sourcream and onion has been blue, plain salted yellow, dill green, grill/bbq brown, cheese orange and vinegar teal/turqoise in Sweden for as long as I can remember XD
@lpsp442
@lpsp442 7 жыл бұрын
I dunno, yellow for Ready Salted makes sense to me. It's the neutral crisp flavour, so it gets the neutral crisp colour.
@robertguttman1487
@robertguttman1487 3 жыл бұрын
Something to think about: In The Iliad the Trojans were referred to as being noted for "horse-tamers", but they are depicted as always riding into battle in chariots. Greek Mythological characters are also depicted riding chariots, including in the personification of Apollo transiting the sky every day in the form of the Sun. Ancient Greek references to actually riding on horseback were rare. One of the very few exceptions was Belleraphon, who actually rode on the back of a "winged horse" (Pegasus), which is depicted as a really extraordinary thing to do. In fact, riding horses was regarded by the Greeks as so far from normal that they mythologized Central Asian horse-archers as "Centaurs", i.e., supernatural beings who were "half-man-and-half-horse".
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Жыл бұрын
I think people forget that when you grow up riding horses every single day for hours per day, you’re able to do things we could only dream of today.
@2adamast
@2adamast 7 жыл бұрын
Nice try, but battle is a stupid idea too.
@thefracturedbutwhole5475
@thefracturedbutwhole5475 7 жыл бұрын
Battle and War is what has driven progress, the father of the computer was a WW2 decryption expert and engineer . . . it may be stupid, but it is necessary
@Troglodytarum
@Troglodytarum 7 жыл бұрын
+The Fractured But Whole I don't think you understood what he was saying.
@tomharvey2567
@tomharvey2567 7 жыл бұрын
+The Fractured But Whole Not necessarily, it speeds up the process but a majority of discoveries have been for war, not civilian use.
@2adamast
@2adamast 7 жыл бұрын
The Fractured But Whole I was thinking of the personal discomfort and hazards of battle. As for progress, the enigma machine is a pre war effort, like the Spitfire, the DC3, the hollow charge, the radar, etc.
@thefracturedbutwhole5475
@thefracturedbutwhole5475 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Harvey you may want to look into the subject . . . War is the mother of progress both military and civilian
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 7 жыл бұрын
Horses allowing people to ride them into battle was pretty stupid but horse unions were notoriously ineffective as every motion proposed was shot down with a thunderous nay. I'll get my coat.
@evertondossantos5202
@evertondossantos5202 Жыл бұрын
Any day, an influencer will say in the internet " the wheel was a stupid idea"...
@kristianheinonen9890
@kristianheinonen9890 3 жыл бұрын
The answer to your stirrup-question is most likely: archery. All cultures using succesful mounted archers tend to stand in the stirrups to compensate for the movement of the horse when aiming.
@malcolmwright5793
@malcolmwright5793 7 жыл бұрын
Guns were a stupid idea, until they wern't. Oh and cities. And agriculture. And language. It's almost like these things evolve slowly over time.
@butterlordofpraven6288
@butterlordofpraven6288 7 жыл бұрын
100% agree.
@butterlordofpraven6288
@butterlordofpraven6288 7 жыл бұрын
DomR1997 Same with the car or the plane.
@malcolmwright5793
@malcolmwright5793 7 жыл бұрын
The first person to do it wouldn't have looked like a madman. You're falling prey to the same misleading train of thought. These things did not happen all at once, they happened gradually, something that Lindybeigh skirts around the edges of in this and other videos. It didn't start with a man riding a horse, it started with people using horses as domestic farm and pack animals. They carried things, they pulled things. Then, eventually, that transitioned into the use of things like chariots, and with horses being used by messengers and the like. And then, slowly, those horses were bred to be more efficient at these tasks. They became larger, stronger, better able to help farmers work soil, and better able to carry larger loads. *Then* people slowly transitioned towards riding them, and *then* those technologies that made cavalry warfare better were developed. There wasn't a moment where some insane person changed the script, it was a gradual series of changes that were all logical and made perfect sense in the moment.
@gunmunz
@gunmunz 7 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Wright Though I still wonder what was going though the mind of the first person who drank cow/goat milk
@resurgent2486
@resurgent2486 7 жыл бұрын
"Hmm, this tastes good, and is probably nutritious just like a mother's milk is for a human baby. Weird. No idea how we figured this out." It's not that crazy.
@Jakers457
@Jakers457 7 жыл бұрын
Strap spandaus to them. Instant victory.
@botchamaniajeezus
@botchamaniajeezus 7 жыл бұрын
a weapon to surpass metal gear
@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail
@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail 7 жыл бұрын
But what if the enemy armed themselves with crisp packets??
@ledichang9708
@ledichang9708 7 жыл бұрын
Carrots and sugar cubes.
@RichyArg
@RichyArg 7 жыл бұрын
and stick a few fire arrows up it's bumhole ears and nose, to fuel it's berserk rage
@Dnanidref
@Dnanidref 7 жыл бұрын
but pommels work only if you unsrew them, so you have to bring lots of swords
@michaelgreen1515
@michaelgreen1515 3 жыл бұрын
The early cavalry wasn't with lots of armour; it was a natural development from hunting. I can also confirm that horses are quite happy to tread or run over people or other animals (even if not prawn cocktail crisps).
@glynluff2595
@glynluff2595 3 жыл бұрын
A horse! A horse! Half my kingdom for a horse- then I can run away! Apologies to the late Richard III found recently under a car park. He fell off his horse and lost his crown.
@NathanDudani
@NathanDudani 2 жыл бұрын
And then got it taken too
@linkofvev
@linkofvev 7 жыл бұрын
The real question is why did we not have cow cavalry?!
@modernminded5466
@modernminded5466 7 жыл бұрын
Cowalvy
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 6 жыл бұрын
Paddy Hugill hell, Bulls have their own handlebars. Stick a saddle and bridle on it, maybe something to extend its horns, and you're good to go.
@pyramear5414
@pyramear5414 6 жыл бұрын
Experiments were done by a group called CrazyForCows which tried to use steers as cavalry (a bull would be very difficult to train because of their aggresiveness) with specialty saddles and they found they could only coax them into moving 8 miles per hour. They also take more food than a horse. A horse typically will eat 20 pounds of hay per day, a cow will eat 24 pounds. If you were fielding an army of them, the 20% increased food requirements would be very difficult to manage indeed.
@mohandasjung
@mohandasjung 6 жыл бұрын
Paddy Hugill Cows are a meat&milk machine, they are too expensive.
@swanbaa
@swanbaa 6 жыл бұрын
Because for some reason mojang doesnt allow us to put saddles on cows in minecracft.More like mojang was a stupid idea am i right?..........haha.......kill me
@tulud
@tulud 7 жыл бұрын
'Cavalry is a stupid idea' you wanna tell that to the huns or the mongols?
@SnowHawkX
@SnowHawkX 7 жыл бұрын
Watch the video before you post stupid comments.
@germanvisitor2
@germanvisitor2 7 жыл бұрын
The huns usually rode to battle and dismounted for combat.
@GeneralZaroDj
@GeneralZaroDj 7 жыл бұрын
do you understand the passage of time... when where the huns around lol, 3000 BC?
@PerfectDeath4
@PerfectDeath4 7 жыл бұрын
The video hints about how early cavalry was not some brilliant idea because no one had established or known about better tactics and equipment for it. Saying, "lul, the huns and mongols made it work." is complete hind sight, especially since Lindy is talking about cavalry tactics PRIOR to the huns and mongols! xD For another bit of hind sight, Napoleon commented about how stupid of an idea it was to put a steam engine into a wooden ship.
@apothneisko
@apothneisko 7 жыл бұрын
Cavalry is a stupid idea accept for wait for it......the Mongols
@orionspero560
@orionspero560 Жыл бұрын
It seems obvious that the chariot would be the predecessor to Calvary. Which is in fact historically correct. I would assume that early Calvary was an attempt to have economy or improvised chariots.
@adrianmedyanik8814
@adrianmedyanik8814 2 жыл бұрын
Mounted archer has entered the chat and raided your village
@thomasmillin2155
@thomasmillin2155 7 жыл бұрын
What about lions? That'd be cool, lions
@magiguy102
@magiguy102 7 жыл бұрын
Lions would probably be more effective to just unleash. They don't move particularly smoothly (in terms of sitting atop one), I doubt they could carry the weight of a person and still be badass, and the whole point of having a lion would be that it could bite and swipe at your enemies, which would be hard to stay on the back of during combat.
@Ms10000123
@Ms10000123 7 жыл бұрын
To big and aggressive for domestication, and a build unsuited for riding.
@wicho2103
@wicho2103 7 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Bronson it's a big cat and cats are jerks, you can domesticate them but I feel they are not 100% safe as dogs (best friend ever)
@Ms10000123
@Ms10000123 7 жыл бұрын
***** Even with dogs, their 'loyalty' is mainly pack mentality. They see you as the leader, so the follow you. I think big cats are too strong, and thus will easily take that leadership role.
@q1w2e3621
@q1w2e3621 7 жыл бұрын
+RS420 XI626s +
@joluoto
@joluoto 7 жыл бұрын
Probably why chariots were used waay before they did the cavalry thing.
@ragimundvonwallat8961
@ragimundvonwallat8961 7 жыл бұрын
i think at first they just used roller blades...but you can only figth on pavement lol
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering *how* you would fight on a chariot (quite properly omitted from the video as that's not the primary topic), there's basically 3 tiers of chariot use in warfare: 1: Fast infantry: This is the same concept as the much later mounted infantry, just with chariots. You get on your chariot, the horse runs to the point in the battlefield you're going, then you get off and act like a normal infantryman. This is...not really ideal - to get horses to hold still, you generally need to tie them to something or leave behind one guy for every few horses to keep them from wandering off. When you've got chariots, this gets particularly awkward because they've got a big wooden contraption tied to their backsides, which makes it awkward to cluster the horses around the guy tending to them. This idea never really worked perfectly until the advent of the modern motor vehicle - first jeeps in WWII and Korea, and later the APCs, HumVees, etc of modern militaries....since a jeep doesn't wander off because it thinks it hears some water running over yonder and is kinda thirsty. 2: Archery platforms: This is where chariots start to actually have an advantage. You need a larger chariot - one that can support multiple people. One person drives the chariot - directing the horses to run toward wherever they think the horses can keep running - the idea is keep moving and the enemy won't be able to shoot you. And the others are archers shooting at targets of opportunity 3: Scythed chariots: Because some lunatic thought it was a good idea to put giant knives on the axles of the chariot and charge them into battle. You're still using the larger chariot with archers and a driver, but now you have a meter long blade sticking out of the chariot. Anyone you run into is getting bodied by a horse, which is not something you really want any more than the horse does, and anyone who's right next to the poor sod getting trampled is having their legs chopped off by the blades attached to the chariots. It's worth noting that when horses dodge running into things, they tend to do so by quite narrow margins (they're surprisingly nimble at a full gallop, and can run through a dense forest without difficulty ...as long as they don't break a leg stepping in some hole they didn't notice). I'm not sure if we know when the earliest use of each kind of chariot was used in war and how that compares to the early uses of cavalry, but I would not be surprised if the early uses of cavalry were meant as a counter to chariots rather than directly countering infantry. After all, the general counter to an enemy with a good archer force is to charge them with enough fast moving infantry that you can kill them - they've got to get big honking sticks out of the way before they can ready something useful for close quarters, so you tend to make pretty quick work of them. But when they're being pulled around by a horse, your charging soldiers will be chasing them for a couple of hours at least (considering humans' capacity for persistence hunting, you could probably run down a chariot eventually, but by then the archers on it will have picked off a good chunk of your forces)...so you stick them on a horse, give them light equipment to keep the horse as fast as possible, and chase down the chariots with the mounted equivalent of infantry - cavalry. (In that case, I would suggest that the scythed chariot might have been a counter to that early cavalry - it's one thing to ride a horse next to a chariot and stab the archers with your spear, it's quite another to do so when that chariot has a giant knife mounted on it that's just the right height to cut a horse's leg off. Then it's a matter of noticing that people who aren't expecting it tend to get *very* nervous when a hundred horses start running in their direction all at once, and the idea of the cavalry charge is born. Early on it's more an intimidation tactic than anything useful, but then someone invents the 4 pommel saddle and works out how to use it the way a cavalry soldier would, and now you've got actual cavalry - and by 53 BC, at least, there's documentation of the Parthians using cataphracts - cavalry where both horse and rider are fully armoured - in the Battle of Carrhae. (There's some suggestion that the idea goes back much further - to the Medes, the predecessors of the Achaemenid Empire (the Persian Empire that Alexander the Great ended), but the Wikipedia article on cataphracts is pretty vague about specific developments rather than just the general concept that "armour is good and therefore cavalry should have it") Also, it's worth noting that, especially in these early times, the real effective cavalry class was the missile cavalry - cavalrymen equipped with short bows or other projectiles - and they basically did the same sort of thing that the war chariots did - ride around moving too fast for the infantry to easily catch shooting targets of opportunity. There's a tactic called the Catabrian Circle that was particularly effective at this - a unit of cavalry rides in a circle and as each rider is riding toward the enemy formation, they throw a javelin, which has the net effect of a continuous rain of javelins on the enemy. Also, with any of these arguments of "This idea was stupid until we spent a long time learning how to do it right," it's worth noting that there's a number of military tactics that are stupid but did exist, because people at the time were throwing ideas at the wall to see what would work. Hannibal used elephants to attack Rome, and at some point Rome tried countering elephants (not necessarily Hannibals) by dousing pigs with something flammable, lighting them on fire, and making them run toward the elephants. That's absolutely insane...but it's entirely plausible that it would scare an elephant. Much more recently, in WWI, Germany used hydrogen filled zeppelins as bombers...right up until the British invented the incendiary bullets that made them deathtraps. Also, pretty much everyone doing advances on enemy positions in that war used creeping barrages: a screen of artillery fire that's continuously blowing up just far enough away from your advancing soldiers that they're not getting shredded by their own artillery...all to keep enemy machine gunners from having a clear field of fire. So much of war is people trying seemingly idiotic things because they might just work, and sometimes succeeding well enough that they fundamentally change how war is fought. (Another insane idea from WWI was building really big, heavy, armoured vehicles - basically battleships on land, and having them drive toward the enemy slower than the infantry can walk. That's the original version of a tank, and it was so underwhelming that the Germans didn't even bother fielding the ones they captured at the Somme when they were first used. They eventually became a decisive tool in breaking the stalemate of trench warfare, but the original one was ...just not viable. Despite the fact that tanks went on to be one of the defining weapons of the 20th century.)
@joaosabino2909
@joaosabino2909 3 жыл бұрын
The horse distracted the infantry man, trying to get the horse down, while the ridder got the infantry man...
@soundslave
@soundslave 7 жыл бұрын
Ghengis Khan disagrees a bit Lindy.
@LMcAwesome
@LMcAwesome 7 жыл бұрын
Watch the damn video before commenting.
@soundslave
@soundslave 7 жыл бұрын
LMcAwesome lol you caught me. I got about 5 minutes in before typing that.
@hektor-vektor7024
@hektor-vektor7024 7 жыл бұрын
most ppls attention span doesnt go beyond 5 minutes, couple that with the title your going to get comments like this and rightly so
@LMcAwesome
@LMcAwesome 7 жыл бұрын
AKN Concept Wrongly so.
@hektor-vektor7024
@hektor-vektor7024 7 жыл бұрын
LMcAwesome hardly, use click bait at own peril
@deepsouthredneck1
@deepsouthredneck1 7 жыл бұрын
I want a 4 pommeled horse.
@RyanRyzzo
@RyanRyzzo 7 жыл бұрын
That's some serious firepower once you unscrew 'em.
@gabreshaa8234
@gabreshaa8234 7 жыл бұрын
that's a bit of an overkill don't you think?
@realCevra
@realCevra 7 жыл бұрын
easily beats a spandau
@deepsouthredneck1
@deepsouthredneck1 7 жыл бұрын
A 4 pommeled horse with spandaus for legs and brens for eyes.
@wesleycaine7832
@wesleycaine7832 7 жыл бұрын
But where is the katana?!
@christophkauf4579
@christophkauf4579 4 жыл бұрын
Brave Warrior 800BC: "Look how brave I am! I tamed this creature and ride into battle on his back while towering over all other warriors! Look at me!"
@MetoagaYT
@MetoagaYT 4 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige: Cavalier are stupid. Riders of Rohan: Haha horse charge go brrrrr
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx 5 жыл бұрын
I think they rode horses (properly) before they fought with them.
@alessiodebonis2710
@alessiodebonis2710 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's too basic for him tp admit
@nh6900
@nh6900 4 жыл бұрын
i dont think you understand horses.
@burgerkiller4438
@burgerkiller4438 4 жыл бұрын
That's what he said in the video
@alessiodebonis2710
@alessiodebonis2710 4 жыл бұрын
I heared PHD mentioning saddles were used few thousands years before cristianity. which make sense because saddles were not so hard to build if you think about it
@alessiodebonis2710
@alessiodebonis2710 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5a6pGycprGVm8U
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 6 жыл бұрын
I suppose it's like the dude who decided to have cheese or yogurt for the first time. It seemed nuts at the time, but eventually worked out.
@carpetclimber4027
@carpetclimber4027 5 жыл бұрын
Or fermented fish.
@davesulphate4497
@davesulphate4497 5 жыл бұрын
Or sucked on the underside of a cow
@windoverwaves6781
@windoverwaves6781 5 жыл бұрын
Or eating tomato
@HeironFlex
@HeironFlex 5 жыл бұрын
@@davesulphate4497 I'm sorry what
@davesulphate4497
@davesulphate4497 5 жыл бұрын
@ OsisiZZ milk dude, milk.
@robertschill2686
@robertschill2686 3 жыл бұрын
The references to "cavalry" in Homer may have been references to dragoons. That is, soldiers who traveled on horseback but fought on foot. Swords, shields, and camping equipment were very heavy back then. Far too heavy for a man to carry on a long march. While cavalry needed especially aggressive horses to charge into battle, any old plow horse could carry your gear.
@TheVoiceOfReason93
@TheVoiceOfReason93 3 жыл бұрын
And suddenly the idea of future militaries using giant robots and mechas don't seem too far-fetched.
@luispt77
@luispt77 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many idiots are here in the comment section. Lindy is not saying using cavalry has been a stupid ideia in recent history (mongols, medieval,etc). He is talking about thousands of years ago, when horses were a very different animal to what they are today. In those early days when we domesticated them it sure looked like a stupid idea to ride one straight into a bulk of enemies.
@dinoman6123
@dinoman6123 7 жыл бұрын
anddd then its click bait.
@dinoman6123
@dinoman6123 7 жыл бұрын
yea like 1300s
@thefurrybastard1964
@thefurrybastard1964 7 жыл бұрын
He makes a great point. Butall through this video, I had the image of Yosemite Sam yelling, "Woah Horse!"
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 7 жыл бұрын
+Reasonably Sane medieval is relatively recent history compared to 5000 years ago or more when horses were first domesticated
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 7 жыл бұрын
***** no it didn't - check a history book it ended about 500-600 years or so ago and we're speaking in relative terms. We are closer to the Middle Ages than we are 5-6000 years ago when the horses were first domesticated and what lindy was talking about through most of the video.
@MisterDonPatch
@MisterDonPatch 7 жыл бұрын
"Lindy, you idiot! I don't need to watch your video to know that you're wrong. Here's a list of everyone who used calvary in history so I can prove that I am an unsung genius and history expert." He's not arguing that the cavalry is ineffective, he's saying that the idea of riding a skiddish and unpredictable animal into battle is ridiculous. It's comparable to the grade-school jokes about the man who first discovered cows milk: it is a stupid idea to grab random saggy bits under an animal and drink the discharge, but it turned out okay.
@JayOFae
@JayOFae 7 жыл бұрын
Or more that certain inventions and selective breeding were required before horses were suitable for riding to battle.
@MisterDonPatch
@MisterDonPatch 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Fee Oh, absolutely. That would be a more correct explanation.
@Nerdarchy
@Nerdarchy 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but on the plus side, all of the comments from the pre-watching the video-armchair historians are beneficial to Lindy's video being seen in the first place (not that he needs that much help). Inflammatory isn't always bad on KZbin and I'm glad to hear his well-researched thoughts on the matter!
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 7 жыл бұрын
Clinegg I wonder how long it took them to work out which discharging dangly bits from a horse were the ones that turned out okay
@treyriver5676
@treyriver5676 7 жыл бұрын
well except that it worked.
@crapphone7744
@crapphone7744 9 ай бұрын
Hun: let's ride horses into battle! Roman: lets make little 3 pointed metal stars and stick our empty crisp packets on one of the points and scatter them in front of us. I think Roman crisp packets have been found at Doura Europa.
@oldsteve4291
@oldsteve4291 3 жыл бұрын
The stirrup allows the rider to gallop with their arse elevated above the saddle and allowing the knees to work as suspension. With the Celtic saddle, the faster the horse moves the more the rider is bounced up and down.
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