You Can't Buy Ergonomic Mice Like This (Free 3D Models)

[@azmiadhani7934]

this woman literally print everything she need

[@Boissinova]

azmi adhani loll

[@gamawanardiyanto4793]

Hold-up

[@_skiel]

lets check her bedroom :D

[@bluegreen5768]

yea she freakin cool

[@Steph.98114]

The benefits of a 3d printer and cad skills

[@cyruscatfisher]

"Didn't like the reality - printed her own". Amazing stuff!

[@herrkrake8106]

You can print your own reality, but you can't run away from yourself. Привет :3

[@integza]

I literally had never heard about vertical mouses. Cool video !

[@InspiredFortunes]

Where were you over the last 10 years?

[@sillaceestekay2069]

Hello!

[@Hirudin]

That's awesome that you took the initiative to fix your peripherals! I'd like to start using an ergonomic mouse, but I also like mice with lots of programmable buttons. I've thought about how cool it would be to convert a fancy Logitech gaming mouse into an ergo mouse, but I've never taken the time to actually design or make anything. Great video!

[@wydx120]

Look into Ploopy mice!

[@Hirudin]

@@wydx120 Thanks for the tip!

[@rwz]

It is great to see others also optimizing their tools to their needs! Great work!

[@LindyDesignLab]

Thanks!

[@JellyOsaurus]

I love how innovative you are with 3d prints, plus i also like how you are using your peripherals left handed which aligns to how i use them too, so it gives me a rough idea of what i should print/buy. good video.

[@LindyDesignLab]

Yeah, building the coordination to use left hand as primary, as a very right handed person, sucked for like a year but so worth it to have the versatility. Trying a Keymecher track pad lately which also sucks, super frustrating, but really easy on the fingers and wrist. Good luck finding a setup that works for you.

[@davidsauceda830]

I love how literally showed how the products could be better. awesome attention to detail!

[@ABDLLHSDDQI]

I have most of these same devices, cool to see another peron also using 3D printing to solve these types of issues with the products that are otherwise so nice to use.

[@aeonnight1012]

Thanks for the great info! i made the decision and purchased a slimblade after watchin your vid as we have similar skill sets, so I thought it would improve my workflow too, and no regrets the slimblade really is a pleasure to use!. Being able to move my mouse hand in an organic manner as opposed to the rigid traditional mouse interface is an absolute god send, one of the best devices any computer worker could add to their arsenal!

[@johnconnor4136]

You always have amazing ideas and a unique way of thinking about things. I am in love with your brain

[@thesecretgrimoireofturiel6040]

Thank you for this - I am just searching for an ergonomic solution after busting my wrist in online Uni courses. A very neat video, nicely presented, and your custom 3d printed parts add a component that obviously cannot be found on other similar videos. My setup will end up being quite different as our needs are so dissimilar, but you definitely earned my sub.

[@limartin9717]

May I ask what product did you buy eventually？ I am seeking for mouse alternatives too

[@taylormanning2709]

WHOA that is an AWESOME fix for the vertical mouse

[@marianwhit]

You are a genius! A true designer...please go help logitech update their red ball mouse, lol. I love that you change your world to make it work.

[@JustInTime0525]

Those are some great designs! As for USB randomly stop working, try to disable "USB selective suspend setting" in your power settings. I hope that helps!

[@LindyDesignLab]

I've changed the setting and am observing to see if that fixes it. Thanks.

[@NimW]

Did it work?

[@Oleg_K.]

Did it work?

[@oscarmeadowcroft]

The most ergonomic way to use the Slimblade Pro is to hover your hand and not rest your wrist at all; by resting your wrist, you are bringing back the same wrist movement as a normal mouse which contributes to RSI. A more ergonomic solution is to have a similar rest for just below your elbow which is shaped to allow your whole forearm to swivel, which means you can use your arm for horizontal movements. You may find this much more comfortable and have a much better time using this mouse.

[@iAfnano]

I'm not gonna do any of this but enjoyed watching. You're super awesome! Thank you

[@MythixMusic1]

LOVE the Space Mouse idea. I actually every single one they make, and not fully happy with any of them. This is a good step in the right direction

[@BJbear2001]

I like the simplisity and potential portability of these peripherals. If you would want to try mixing two items, I'd like to see what you'd think of the Kensington Slimblade trackball and Tourbox NEO. They should be able to take the place of your keyboard, wheel, and trackball. Between the two, there are enough assignable buttons that they should be able to manage most level 1 to level 2 program functions(levels by how many menu selections have to be made per action), in theory. I love the ingenuity here! I'll be watching for more.

[@rpatrick2]

I have been using he Kensington slimblade and a Kinesis for years. I've been looking for a macropad for my left hand to add some layers for CAD.

[@strayblackcatsmeow]

Wanted a similar set up for 3d rendering. Settled for a dedicated wireless left hand track ball, the ELECOM M-XT4DR and a wireless medium XP Deco Pro tablet for the right hand. Plenty of programmable buttons and two scroll wheels. The left hand track ball mouse was easier to adapt to than expected.

[@brnne]

5:43 I just press the buttons with my ring finger. Also the extended part I get you, but what made me feel better is make smaller the canvas part in the app. There's already a solution for this and make your hand/pulse less stressful like in a big canvas. Working in small places is better for the health of the hand

[@highgatehandyman6479]

Thanks for the space mouse download. Saved me from buying the bigger version. Im using it with a wireless mini number pad ive mapped

[@satibel]

somebody might have said it already, but for your devices needing to be plugged and unplugged, assuming windows you can try opening the device manager, then for everything under Universal serial bus controller, right click -> properties then if there's a "power management" tab, go to it and uncheck "allow the computer to turn off this device to save power". another similar quirk is if you have a cheap display port cable, it might use the freely available 1.0 spec which no device is actually using, and the power gets routed from your screen to your gpu, which in turn causes all sorts of issues, like your ssd not being detected if you don't cut the power to your monitor/pc, or the cpu reading some weird temperature, and a bunch of weird stuff, just because the pci express 5v power is kept on by the screen. if you have weird issues like that, try switching to an hdmi cable and see if it fixes them, if it does and you need display port, get a vesa certified display port 2.1 cable, it's not much more expensive (like 10-20 bucks) and shouldn't cause issues.

[@samuele5931]

I always thought 3d printing was not useful most of the time but this is making me change idea

[@divencia]

Very happy new year Lindy, more projects and more knowledge for you

[@LindyDesignLab]

Happy new year!

[@vlesmeries]

Love how innovative you are and always looking tho improve upon things. Well done. I'll try doing the same without a 3d printer 😀

[@floydmoats]

Great setup, thanks for sharing.

[@Amirikl1]

You are the queen of practicality! I love the way you think! 💪😎

[@LindyDesignLab]

Thanks... intj :)

[@gmarkphillips]

Wow, you're an inspiration! I love your inventiveness.

[@jakeharms1386]

Just wanted you to know you are unique and amazing :)

[@robbie4711]

thanx man! it was very easy to do this with your very clear video! now its working like a charm!!!😄😄

[@blorbb5398]

I have had that issue of devices disconnecting, I thought it was the computer, but I was able to track that it was one of the usb cables that was bad. Keep looking until you track with device or cable is causing the issues. Often this also happens because of not good usb hubs.

[@JasonWh]

really cool everything you did! Nice video!!

[@KeplerJohanes]

Wow! It's great! You is very smart and skillful

[@ysnfrk2515]

Hello there; Which is more useful in industrial design programs? for example; Soldiworks, Catia Which would you recommend for ease of use? Thanks for the feed back...

[@jmigda]

Haven't you tried using the Pro or the Enterprise versions of 3DConnexion's Space Mouse? They have those kind of mini-keyboards built in next to the 3D knob already. Similarly, Wacom's Intuos Pro tablets have this large amount of space around the touch area that you're looking for, in addition to some extra shortcut buttons and dials and the overall class-leading digitizer hardware. Btw. I do admire all the effort that you put into designing all those custom add-ons for your devices - I occasionally also do some minor tweaks and modifications to the hardware I'm using, although certainly not on such a scale as you seem to be doing - one could get the impression that you go through this whole process of iterative customizations with almost every single new gadget you get :)

[@alwaysemployed656]

Ha ha! I got the same exact Amazon Basic keyboard she's got. It's only like $10 and super comfortable to use.

[@sablesanctum]

Subscription earned at 0:25.

[@cryptout]

Palm rests can cause rsi, it's better to float your hand or rest it at the elbow.

[@alterstassfurter5743]

Have you ever tryed a logitech ergo MX ? I use it for Fusion 360 and a lot of Windows apps and at the moment I am satisfied...👍

[@josephreckers409]

Wow, very nice customizations

[@chrisliddiard725]

That space mouse and keyboard is so cool with your 3d print. If this were on the market as a product i'd buy it. Im now wondering if there's a service which will print 3d files for those of use who haven't yet purchased a 3d printer. About the Usb devices disconnecting. There is a setting on windows to control this. Its basically a powersaving setting. I found it searching "windows usb sleep" . press windows key + R, type powercfg.cpl , on the Power Options, click 'change plan settings', then select 'Change advance power settings', find and expand 'Usb Settings', expand 'Usb selective suspend setting' and set to disable. Apply and save. This should stop Windows powering down any connected usb devices.

[@LindyDesignLab]

There are certainly online printing services such as Shapeways, but you will get much better value investing in an inexpensive printer if you can spare a little sweat equity learning how to use it.

[@laughingvampire7555]

the best scrolling experience in my life comes from a thinkpad trackpoint, the trackpoint is this red "nipple" in the middle of thinkpads and some other pcs and you just do a middle click and then press the trackpoint as if you were moving the pointer and scrolls in 2d, better than any scroll wheel and better than a trackpad.

[@cyclamengarden]

Now I know what can be done with a 3D printer! Amazing :)

[@vitaliistep]

Kudos for creativity!

[@herrkrake8106]

Hand rest for the SlimBlade useful for small hands. I've printed one and realize that it's very uncomfortable for me. The ball is placed right in the center under my palm, not how it should be, right under my fingers.

[@lenders1164]

Thinking like an engineer!

[@Fee.1]

Do you have a video review of the digitizer or the space mouse?would love to hear in depth your thoughts and how they work

[@b25671]

Maybe you can print a mouse-holder to create a vertical mouse with a normal mouse?

[@monochrome_linux]

I love how she is like: Fine, I'll do it myself

[@XMegaJuni]

I love you please keep this up! Thank you so much! ! !.

[@othoapproto9603]

Nice work. I'm obsessed with computer input devices. Have you tried the ShuttleProv2? Wonderful device because it has a 2 Jog wheel. I assign bush scaling and hardness to the other wheel.

[@PhillipAmthor]

Good video! What do you think about working with motion control in vr? I want a setup where i dont use a vr headset but a beamer to use multiple walls as screens and only use motion controls

[@nh8444]

Omg that’s incredible.

[@SlavaChrome]

Keep it so simple works good always! Great video!

[@lerneninverschiedenenforme7513]

Regarding "Huion Tablet Pen Thumb Rest" Could you scale that down, so it has an inner diameter of 1cm only? (currently it seems to be ≈1.3cm) Then it should fit for a WACOM pen, too ( ... which I have... :P )

[@notinajaronmars]

This new "vertical mousepad" thing might be of interest to you. I got an early sample of one from Orb Control called mouseramp. Like you I use my pointer tracking devices for task specific computing, I use different devices for different tasks. It reduces the strain like a vert mouse does. Overall I like being able to use a regular mouse with it because I can be way quicker and more accurate. Hope this helps. Thanks for the thorough review.

[@LindyDesignLab]

Primarily using a keymecher mano trackpad on a 3D printed vertical stand these days... button clicking for any mouse was irritating the finger joints. Definitely agree a normal mouse is more precise and faster though.

[@notinajaronmars]

@@LindyDesignLab Yes. I’d like to see your 3D printed vertical stand. How is it using a mouse on it?

[@LindyDesignLab]

It was designed only to hold a trackpad. Showed it in a Short recently and free to download www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-236618

[@notinajaronmars]

I took a look at the vertical trackpad stand. I think you have great design ability and would like to collaborate with you one of these days :) I’ll be in touch. I followed you on that website. Peace!

[@Hyraethian]

3d printing is really useful for this kind of stuff. 90% of my prints are custom adapters. You've got a human hand and a computer mouse, print a custom adapter, haha.

[@msp420]

You are amazing!!! Thank you for your innovations.

[@ultraderek]

Using a 3d printer like one should.

[@jarnobot]

These are some very cool idea's, I love the way you solve the problems you had with the original products! I was only a bit surprised that you're using a Amazon Basics keyboard, considering you went all in on ergonomic mouse replacements. Have you ever tried/considered a ergonomic keyboard, like the ZSA Moonlander or Ergodox EZ? If so, why did you decide going for a basic keyboard, while going all in on the mouse replacements?

[@LindyDesignLab]

Good point, the large keyboard is just what I had on hand, not something chosen in particular. I've looked into other types a bit but haven't tried a specialized one because the basic keyboard hasn't caused any particular problems for me yet.

[@jarnobot]

@@LindyDesignLab Makes sense! Thank you for answering :)

[@bonilla2022]

Great reviews! Thank you.

[@ImogenValkyrie]

I want to ask you something but I doubt that you will answer this but i try anyway: have you ever used Maya 3D in combination with your Kensington trackball? If you do, is it convenient? Or is it possible, anyway?

[@BS-my2ky]

can you use the trackball like spacemouse as in 3d nagivation while using your mouse with the other hand as a cursor for selecting a 3d face or vertex in 3d modeling.

[@ydin9]

A lot of those should be included in the package. Ghost the video, patent and sell to the companies. :)

[@LindyDesignLab]

Ha!

[@marianwhit]

@@LindyDesignLab Seriously, you are an inventor...you could make money with these.

[@alphatonic1481]

That's an awesome setup. I always thought about getting a trackball just for work related use ... or is it possible to play games using a trackball? I guess the precision and speed would be a problem in fast paced first person shooters. Right now i use a G600 from Logitech and i actually use each button that mouse has and i don't think i could ever go back to a mouse with less buttons.

[@duckrutt]

I used to use a mouseman plus for gaming, it was fine. I was never big on multiplayer so pinch of salt and all that.

[@Frenziefrenz]

You can play fast-paced first person shooters just fine with a trackball. However, while I think Kensington makes the most comfortable models (whether the Expert Mouse or the one in this video), afaik they still include sensors from the stone age. It may be priced like a good mouse, but on the component side it's more like a cheap mouse. That's what'll put you at a minor disadvantage depending on what your opponents have, not the fact that it's a trackball. Besides the sensor, there's the fact that you've got many years or perhaps even decades of mousing experience, so it'll take at the very least a few days to approximate your usual skill level. It's probably better to start using it for regular computing tasks for a while before you try to play a game with it. Walk before you run, that kind of thing. Starting with running would falsely give you the impression that you just can't. My ideal trackball would be something like my Expert Mouse with the sensor components from the Elecom Huge. (Not actually ideal obviously, but basically what I think/hope Kensington or Elecom or possibly Logitech might realistically release.) I looked up this G600 and it seems to have the capability to easily switch DPI on the fly. That's the kind of functionality you unfortunately just don't get on a trackball, although it is slightly less necessary because it's easier to be speedy as well as precise without changing DPI and/or acceleration. Elecom trackballs can technically switch DPI on the fly, but I believe it's with awkward hardware sliders on all of them, not quite something you can quickly and reliably execute while engaging your sniper rifle or whatever. Also the G600 has significantly more DPI settings to play around with. I don't personally like the Ergo MX line by Logitech as much, but in any case those are also comparatively lacking in settings. It looks like the G600 in particular has a bog-standard awful scrollwheel of the type I've hated since the '90s, but you also don't get proper modern freescrolling wheels on trackballs. Mind you, the scrollring concept on the Expert Mouse is theoretically superior to any scrollwheel, but the actual execution is mediocre to bad. Modern scrollwheels *can* be better, even if on 99 % of mice they aren't. The Slimblade from this video scrolls by moving the ball itself, which is clever and works fairly well, but that means you can't combine it with cursor movements, which probably makes it less useful for the kind of games we're talking about. (Although I personally tend to prefer quick number selection over scrolling, so ymmv.) So I'll try to condense the above stream of consciousness into a conclusion of some sort. There's nothing inherently inferior about a trackball as a concept. I believe it may actually be superior in terms of speed and accuracy when compared to an above average mouse, even when it has inferior sensors. But if you put them up next to a proper mouse (like the G600?) they just won't hold up due to inferior parts and functionality. PS As to whatever you can do with the fifty buttons on the G600, it strongly looks like they all have inferior switches that would be much better served by something keyboard-ish. Assuming a proper keyboard of course, not some mushy rubber dome. The concept of having a few thumb buttons seems decent, but on my Elecom Huge I absolutely despise the feel of the inferior switches next to the primary ones. That makes the extra thumb buttons nigh useless to me. Much the same applies to the awful switches under the extra buttons on my wife's Ergo MX. One thing the Kensingtons do use is good switches, but of course you only get four of them. (In terms of actual actions six or eight or something, since you can assign actions to clicking two at once… that probably doesn't really work in the middle of a game but again ymmv.) tl;dr (again?) I would definitely recommend getting a Kensington Expert Mouse or Slimblade. But unfortunately it probably won't quite match the G600, mainly for sensor reasons.

[@nibtreak5308]

Very good video, thanks for sharing! It might be over 2 years old, but it is still fully relevant. At least for me ;)

[@714SNF]

so creative, i love it

[@damontellegen3569]

So you're amazing. May I ask did you designed objects you printed also or did you find them in a repository? Im guessing you designed them yourself. your like my hero! I've wanted to get into 3D printing (due to the fact im constantly tweaking thngs to get them to EXACTLY where i want them) but alas have not yet

[@LindyDesignLab]

Everything designed in fusion 360. Fantastic program if you push through the learning curve. It is so affordable to get into 3D printing these days, couple hundred bucks and a couple hours of assembly on a BIQU printer you're good to go.

[@bartoszulkowskitattoo]

This is amazing! I love Your thinking process! INSTANT SUB.

[@tebla2074]

cool. So are you using each device for a different specific piece of software, or just swapping between them all to present rsi?

[@LindyDesignLab]

Vertical mouse for everyday use, trackball and mini keyboard primarily for video editing, tablet for photo editing, space mouse for everything because it offers low strain scroll/zoom/3D nav.

[@JamesTsividis]

Desksetops! Inspiring thank you.

[@DjdoubleedgeRegg]

Great work! I'll be buying one of your palm rest for the iMouse T50 - Wireless Trackball Mouse?

[@7stringbassist]

This is brilliant stuff!! If I use the free files (which is really generous of you), is there any technical info that I need to tell someone as well (which kind of filament?). I know nothing about 3D printing (music is my thing!!). Thanks and regards. 👍 👍

[@LindyDesignLab]

I used matte fiber htpla from proto-pasta which has a rough, grippy texture. Plain PLA should work fine but may fit slightly differently, also depending on the printer. You could always scale it up or down a tad or sand down an edge to make it fit how you want.

[@lerneninverschiedenenforme7513]

6:30 (pen tablet too "small"): I'm having exactly the same problem with mine (same size)! Do you already have a solution here? I was thinking of making it bigger through a surface, that would extend it about 10cm to the right and surround it on the left to not slip away. Do you happen to have created a pen-holder so you could "plug" you pen onto the pen tablet?

[@vfxforge]

damn, you got a full arsenal there :) do you take all these with you when you travel?

[@LindyDesignLab]

As many as will fit in the bag.

[@dirkhorn9695]

Hi. which would you recommend more, vertical mouse or trackball? I feel pain in my wrist due to some accident whan i use a regular mouse, i got a pentablet, but its not perfect for all tasks... Vertical mouse or trackball?

[@LindyDesignLab]

The vertical mouse I can use for longer than trackball, but eventually the buttons make my fingers hurt. Recently I switched to a Keymecher trackpad as my primary input device. Takes getting used to and feels a little clumsy but worth it for lack of pain. I still use a pen tablet for photo editing and the kensington trackball for video editing. Best of luck and hope that helps.

[@dirkhorn9695]

@@LindyDesignLab thank you, actually this helps me a lot. I got confused by all the options. And espacially for CAD works it takes much time and clicks. Trackpad would be another option i didnt think about yet, i use the trackpad from my laptop a lot, but the vertical mouse it shall be. Thank you again God bless

[@lerneninverschiedenenforme7513]

Freaking awesome!!!

[@jojorofo]

What software are you modeling on? I need to upgrade from SolidWorks

[@LindyDesignLab]

Fusion 360. It's fantastic, although I don't have experience with solidworks to compare directly.

[@MapleJokerRofl]

I've been looking at these options past few days. From what I've found is that Kensington's software is pretty shit and sometimes interrupts with other peripherals

[@jya811]

Do you sell anything that you print? Would be interested in a palm rest for the Kensington slimblade trackball! I currently have the expert and find the angle is too steep, so want to try the slimblade but it doesn't come with a palm rest.

[@LindyDesignLab]

The designs are posted free on myminifactory, link in description.

[@jya811]

I don't have a 3d printer

[@narkfly]

Have you tried printing any Ploopy trackballs?

[@LindyDesignLab]

I have not.

[@jm_mort]

I recently bought a Huion Inspiroy Dial - for hobbyist purposes, i find it ok but the pen is defo problematic with the buttons and rolling off everywhere :P

[@royregis1129]

do you know how to make touchpads like logitech t650 or apple magic trackpad 2 more ergonomic as i'm getting wrist pain at desk?

[@fa-ajn9881]

How about a dactyl manuform with a trackball

[@jyang6859]

Hi Lindy, thanks for the informative video! I was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing the stl file for the palm rester for Kensington mouse. I have been on rehab for my wrist for a year and just started using the Kensington mouse but found it to be a bit uncomfortable for my wrist but having a palm rester like yours would really help! Thanks so much for your consideration :)

[@LindyDesignLab]

Link to the free download is in the description.

[@jyang6859]

@@LindyDesignLab Thanks a lot! Have a great rest of your day :)

[@jyang6859]

@@LindyDesignLab Which material would you recommend to use? PLA? ABS?

[@mrbigberd]

You should try printing your own ploopy trackball. It’s way better than Kensington

[@LindyDesignLab]

Had to look that one up... cool.

[@TheOldMan-75]

That keyboard is just adorable ^^

[@CrowClouds]

You absolute mad lad

[@davemarlow1697]

Rather than a keyboard I've been fooling around with an app which simulates a stream deck (in my case" macro deck") very promising and all you need is an old phone or tablet

[@KazujinsTennoLab]

U probably have too much device connected to your computer via hub. (Frequent disconnects) They have limits especially when plugging more power usage ones like usb harddrives.

[@LindyDesignLab]

Possibly, although it seems to happen when plugged directly into the laptop also.

[@NicksStuff]

Trackball: rather than "just" a palm rest, have you considered creating a vertical mount/holder (that may or may not integrate a palm rest)?

[@smashino]

I know you probably are a busy man, but I would love some more content like this. Especially with you describing the flying and the prep you do before. It's very interesting!

[@VulcanOnWheels]

2:26 While I applaud your ingenuity, if you had treated yourself to one of the more elaborate 3D mice, you would not have the problem of a lack of extra buttons within easy reach.

[@EricBradenD]

I love my Spacemouse Enterprise but it's five times the cost of the little one. I can definitely see going her route if you're on a budget.

[@user-ot1dv6ri4f]

hopefully by no you've got an ergo split keyboard as well

[@W4TRI_Ronny]

What model keyboard do you have for the Spacemouse? Thanks!

[@LindyDesignLab]

Rii, link to the exact one in the description.

[@W4TRI_Ronny]

@@LindyDesignLab Thanks! Missed that. There are alot of links there!

[@sleepingturtle32]

Can someone make a 3D printable model for the kingsington expert that makes it so that your forearm can rest on the desk instead of floating when operating it? Thanks!

[@Steph.98114]

Even better download fusion 360 and do it yourself, teach yourself a useful life skill

[@leyrua]

3D printing really is the future.

[@philwang2835]

Lol lady, you are giving free consultation to these companies!

[@mopododo]

but why so many devices?

[@solovoypasando]

Impressive