Constantine, the Celtic Church and the Waldenses | Lineage | Broadcast 1

[@LineageJourney]

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[@jesuschristismygodtotheglo7533]

The Bible clearly teaches that the earth is stationary flat and enclosed with a firmament separating the waters below from the waters above.

[@magistradox39]

Sorry. The Bible doesn't support Flat Earth insanity. People many thousand years ago did knew the shape of the eart: a globe. Before the flood this earth had a firmament: made out of ice. But it broke down as rain and together with the fountains of the deep is covered all earth. Petrifying (turning to stone, breaking into sand, clay) all life on earth. There were many km high trees for example. Coal is the bark of the trees. Gold, Silver and other minerals mined were once the sap of the trees (the root system for example). The oceans are young, the Lithosphere is much thinner under the ocean's then under the continents. Shrink the globe and all continents and islands fit perfectly together on a smaller sized earth. The earth expanded at the end of the flood and that's were the water went.

[@brigittebeltran6701]

Blessed are those who believe in Jesus and keep the holy commandments of God....I AM CELTIC....I AM A COMMANDMENT KEEPER BY THE HOLY SPIRIT'S GUIDANCE...

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[@geordiewishart1683]

I am an Ulster Scot Protestant. I have mixed feelings about the modern Irish, but saddened that the ancient Celtic Irish were later beguilled by papacy.

[@AlanWolf-d7l]

Covetousness is an abomination that causes true Love to wax cold Math 24:12-15 ( KJV) 1 Four zero three Eight three zero Fortyone Twentyfour

[@scobszwide4458]

Powerful information Sir. Thank you for your clear narration and photography. Lifting Jesus in the face of evil....

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Amen and thankyou for those word.. God bless you always Lineage team

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Incredible scenery with uplifting history!

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Appreciate your stories of early Christian history. Excellent work. Please continue.❤

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Beautiful, inspiring documentary.

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My faith has such deep roots!! I praise God for all these brave men and women before me! I praise God for their faith and example and hope that in this crazy time and world I may be a light too!!

[@tes767]

Great videos! Much appreciated! I've written about the Waldensians but your videos make me feel I've been there in person. They were amazing people. They are terrific role models for the saints of our day.

[@rodkingston2248]

Really top quality program, thankyou & may God bless you all further.

[@leeoleary3321]

Fantastic documentary. God kept a remnant of His ppl safe, carrying the truth forward into our time.

[@pauljennings1531]

wow explained with passion

[@wayneweberpal2311]

Very good. I enjoy this series.

[@hananiahshadrachchannel4410]

A history that needs to be share. Thanks to the Waldensians for their faithfulness. 😥😇🙏

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[@brigittebeltran6701]

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[@hotcootaful]

Great series, thanks for making it

[@kennedysingh3916]

Live in Old Harbour Jamaica, Very interesting.

[@maxinericheson5478]

I’ve always loved the Waldensens! End time and what they went We’re at the beginning of the end!

[@danielferris3081]

Foundation, strong history Praise the almighty.

[@stevenjohnfoster8785]

amazing stuff

[@alanpruett2217]

I know an Adventist presentation when I see one. This one is pretty good! You have an error in the word “Insabbati” though. The word means sandal wearer. It has nothing to do with the 7th day Sabbath. Your repeating Ellen White’s error in her book, The Great Controversy, which has been corrected by Italian Adventist scholar Samuel Bacciocchi. Other than that it is a solid presentation!

[@4kleisurelywalks]

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[@leadavis3924]

Excellent

[@HelenPZ]

Love this channel. Who's the artist for the music at the end? Thanks God bless

[@shv90210]

I love the music at the end too, did you ever find out the name of the song and the artist?.

[@theancientpathways1921]

This would be a great series but was drowned out by the music. Such a shame.

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

I found the constant music to be really distracting too.

[@brendablom2451]

I also had a hard time focusing on the presentation because the "backround" music was too loud. I would have enjoyed it more with no music.

[@AndrewKennyBelfast]

I enjoyed the videos very much, however, as far as I am able to understand from my reading, Columbanus was educated in Bangor, Co Down in Ireland and not Bangor in Wales.

[@BloodCovenant]

What history books are you getting this information from. I've wanted to see the remnant from the first Church until now but am unsure on what "Church" history books to get. My one attempt I bought history books about a bunch of monks and mystics IMHO.

[@LineageJourney]

If you visit our website you can view all our sources for the episodes. Thanks. lineagejourney.com/read/season1/episodes

[@salyluz6535]

Scroll Publishing also is a treasure trove of insight on Early Church History. 💙🙏🏽💙

[@ConstantCompanion]

So who changed that information? The stone of scone is thought to be the stone that Jacob latid head-on when he had the encounter with Angel. And the angel changed his name to Israel.

[@shanmugasundaram1975]

Full tour

[@maxinericheson5478]

Iona is the name of one of my friends! There is an island named Iona! She went to visit Iona! She said it was very small, and not much to see!

[@margelatutrandafirulgalben3156]

There is a nuns little monastery on the nearby island of Mull.

[@steviefoster5512]

amazing quality and present truth through Historical Research, brilliant work. Lux Lucet In Tenebris.

[@DavidCates-yn2fv]

The Waldensians trace our history back to the apostles. The first left Rome during Nero’s reign. The Roman church perverted the scriptures and continued the persecution of the faith. The papists slay them wherever they found them. It took Cromwell to back them off. Now, like the Roman church, the present day Waldensians are ecumenical, and so sadly, apostate.

[@IosuamacaMhadaidh]

Is the Celtic church distinct from Orthodox church in any way, or are they essentially the same?

[@greenv01]

What is the evidence that they were not monks, that Iona was just as "training school" and not a monastery? Sure, they were different that the "main line" church, but does the evidence indicate that they resemble more Roman Catholicism-style Christianity than anything resembling Evangelical Christianity?

[@LineageJourney]

Magellan here are a few points to consider. 1. Catholicism didn't come to the British Isles till 597 AD which was the year that Columba died. That's when Pope Gregory The Great Sent the first Catholic missionaries to Kent. So the brand of Christianity that Columba taught was not Catholic. 2. 2. Roman Britain collapsed in 410 AD and the Angles and Saxons invaded soon after and brought their own brand of paganism. When they arrived they persecuted the native Britons because they were Christian. Christianity came to the British Isles around the 1st century AD way way before Catholicism was even birthed. Catholicism only came into existence after 313 AD when Constantine was converted. 3. 3. Bede, writing around 731 AD records the coming of the Catholic missionaries to Kent, making this the starting point for the spread of Christianity through the Heptarchy, Ireland and Wales but the reality is that Christianity was around much earlier than that. This article (www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/uk_1.shtml) is long but it's an reputable and it basically backs up what we are saying about Christianity being present in Britain before Catholicism came in and also that Columba's brand of Christianity was distinct. It also charts the assimilation of the Celtic Church by the Roman Catholic Church at the Synod of Whitby and then the Viking invasion of Lindisfarne. Let us know if this information helps or if there is anything else we can clarify. Thanks so much.

[@fredgillespie5855]

If you read Bede - "Ecclesiastical History of the English Nation" you will see quite plainly that the British Church weren't Roman Catholics. Not evangelical? They sent missionaries all over Northern Europe and some even to N. Africa and Rome (Pelagius for example)

[@Dominic-mm6yf]

There are Orthodox Desert Father influences here however they might have been loosely Roman Catholic but allowed their own regional variations?

[@sojournsojourntraveler1203]

The word APESTOLIC is used so easily here . There is a difference between the apostolic fathers of Catholicize and the Nazarene Apostles . Jesus is the Pagan Greek name for our savior while Yahshua is the true name of our savior . Acts 24:5 Paul “We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect

[@brigittebeltran6701]

HOW CAN I GET TO IONA ISLAND FOR TRAINING??? THESE ARE MY PEOPLE. WE MUST MAKE HASTE IN A DARKENING WORLD!

[@jgappy5643]

Funny how people in their comments are saying: THIS way of christianity is the REAL way. All others are fake. Sounds like people are defending their favourite soccer team. Just practice your believes and be a good samaritan. Don't be the priest or the levite.....

[@jules9628]

INdeed. These Documentaries involving religion are most attacked, than say, a series on animal life, or, space. Quite often it isnt that someone is inquiring about a possible error in a date or fact. It is evident when any hostility or rudeness appears with the comments, there is an ulterior motive of the one who is commenting. Anger, prejudice, and 'anti' are the presupposition, and then threaded throughout, which ends up negating the comments supposed purpose. Trying to place doubt in others, rather than simply questioning and leaving others reading comments to check it out without prejudice, is a very deceptive tactic~dark psychology, if you will. Only works though, on the untrained mind or innocent.

[@pwal888]

They didn't follow just the Sabbath day, but more importantly the 7 Holy Days throughout the biblical year. Also they kept kosher.

[@rollinghillsslo]

Did Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph also kept the 7 feasts?

[@DF_UniatePapist]

I hope you are aware that the Waldensians believed that baptism was necessary for salvation, that the Eucharist was Christ’s literal body and blood, and that a ministerial priesthood was necessary for valid sacraments.

[@ianbrown5647]

From what I read all Christians up until the Reformation believed in the Holy Eucharist .

[@DF_UniatePapist]

@@ianbrown5647 You are correct

[@Dr.Pepper001]

They lived up to the light (truth) that they had. God at that point in time had not yet revealed all the truth that was embraced by the apostles. The apostate church formed under Constantine began to pervert truth by mingling it with the falsehoods of paganism. By the 1600's the false doctrines you listed were entrenched in Christian beliefs. It would take more centuries and the Protestant Reformation for the truth about baptism, the Communion service, and the Christian ministry to be revealed.

[@DF_UniatePapist]

@@Dr.Pepper001 Funny, because every Catholic practice you people disagree with was believed by Christians before Constantine.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

@@DF_UniatePapist -- I assume you mean Catholic practices and beliefs like transubstantiation of the Communion wafer; praying to the saints and Mary; denial of Sola Scriptura, putting tradition equal to Scripture; infant baptism; denial of justification by faith alone (regardless of the present Pope's caving in to that); belief that the "word of God" encompasses not only the Bible but the Apocrypha, the Magisterium, and the Pope's ex cathedra pronouncements; the practice of paying indulgences to speed one's transfer from purgatory to heaven; the practice of pennence as necessary for salvation; and Mary as our Mediatrix. All those practices were part of Christianity before Constantine? How about the practice of slaughtering those who reject your missionary efforts? I could go on, but don't expect me to accept your general statement. As a Protestant who detests the violent and pagan-infested history of the Catholic Church, I believe that there are many within that church who are genuine Christians. They may ignorantly believe and practice error, but they also possess enough truth to be saved. God does not judge us by how much truth we possess, but according to how we live up to the truth we have.

[@BananaZen7]

Yes, the pagan temples were fortunately changed to christian churches but no, the names of gods were not 'changed to christian saints'...this is the first of some false statements in this film...Columba's followers were not 'driven out of Iona by the Benedictine monks' but relocated to Kells, Ireland after several Viking raids... Ranald, Somerled's son, now the 'Lord of the Isles', in 1203 invited the Benedictine order to establish a new monastery, and an Augustinian Nunnery, on the Columban Monastery's foundations. Building work began on the new abbey church, on the site of Columba's original church. The following year, in 1204, the site was raided by a force led by two Irish bishops. This was a response by Ireland's Columban clergy to the loss of its connections and influence at this significant site founded by St Columba...so the film presenter is disregarding some disturbing facts...the Church is the assembly of all who believe that Jesus is the Son of God...all denominations of christianity whether orthodox, catholic, protestant, pentecostal, or evangelical together form the Church of God...the small ones and the big ones...and all church denominations are comprised of flawed people needing salvation...there is no 'pure church' in the sense of perfect members, best doctrines and best rituals...so let us be humble in our opinions and follow Him who said: 'I Am The Way, The Truth and The LIfe...no one can come to The Father but through me' (John 14 verse 6)...

[@dianeharper1951]

Your "facts" are definitely not facts. The film is correct. The Christian church is divided because Catholism promotes "another Jesus" and is full of carefully crafted deception.

[@joshportie]

Under Catholic Rome the Christian persecution was by far worse.

[@geordiewishart1683]

Papacy is estimated to have slaughtered circa fifty million souls

[@CharlesTyree777]

Celtic Church & Waldenses (Waldenses, Vaudois, and Valdesi, Insabbati) my family lines are tied to by the blood of JESUS. Persecution is the mark of the True followers of Christ Jesus... 🙏⚡🕊️🙌🪔✝️🪔🙌🕊️⚡🙏

[@angelashort1331]

Was the Celtic church , a True Sabbath keeping church , ?

[@angelashort1331]

The music overwhelms the message which is wonderful btw, ❤

[@Judah-wk1ps]

In those dispensations it was to be Faithfull to The Word in our dispensation it's to be Faithfull to GOD'S Principles from The LAW and Line Upon Line. This often takes one beyond or opposite to a LITERAL it is written and a Thus saith The LORD. GOD'S thoughts are Dispensational and Progressive Upright always.

[@thomaswimpole]

From nearly the start I sense the producers' perspective on the Church, and what they refer to as ways that were "creeping into the Church". I wonder if John Chrysostom, what gave his life for Christ, would say about this way of thought? He did not compromise, yet was part of the "mainstream". His opinion would be worthwhile to consider. I do not think the Middle Ages were the Dark Ages. This is an arguable use of words. I will now watch the rest of the video. Thank you.

[@salyluz6535]

Chrysostom had some very vile, hateful and even preaching that encouraged violence. Some of it inspired Hitler. Compare his words with those of Jesus- Chrysostom had some insight, but he was confused and misguided on many points. He made many statements that are contradictory to the clear words of Jesus and the Apostles. Compare with prayer. Elevate no one above Jesus! 💙🙏🏽💙🌻

[@edithdotson5617]

Even a casual study of history prior to say, 1950s will confirm the Dark Ages concept. Pretty much all history books used the term to describe this period. Although the Bible does not use the term, it describes the condition which prevailed during that time. Anyway, a great rewriting of history took place and continues to do so to accommodate Vatican 2, the great Ecumenical Movement, and more recently the global agenda. Do a study using some older history texts and, if you do so with an open mind and an unbiased desire to follow where true history leads you will draw the right conclusions. Also, Google Jim Arrabito's Church in the Wildreness (history of the Christian Church). You will receive a feast. Just a blessing!

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

There would always be those that didn't compromise. There were many that did though. When persecution is heavy, the church is the strongest, when times are good and easier, this is when the church gets lax. This was the pattern in the OT w/ the Jews as well. We'd do well to heed that Christians didn't escape this as well.

[@izziebon]

The image of a ‘cross’ that Constantine saw in the sky was a Chiro (Greek for CHRIST..XP) not a ‘plus’ sign. An intentional confusion made by the later church.

[@jerryjamify]

I believe the cross in its variations is the mark of the beast, it's a sun symbol

[@izziebon]

@@jerryjamify Nothing to do with that mark, but certainly a sun symbol, with many ancient pagan links especially with Assyria and the 8 points of the sun circle (see these artefacts in museums like the British Museum), also later the 'sunburst monstrance', the swastika, and others. It also actually has nothing to do with Jesus, as he died on a 'stauros/stave' which is a single piece of wood.

[@bethelshiloh]

And a remnant of us keep #4 today as well. Sabbath never changed.

[@daragildea7434]

The Celtic saints didn't just observe the weekly sabbath, they observed the whole biblical calendar, (Passover, Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Tabernacles) as did the Apostles. Observing the biblical calendar IS observing biblical religion. The christian calendar is the roman calendar, and observing it IS observing roman religion. The Apostles did not call themselves Christians, they called themselves Nazarenes. And the Celtic saints did not call themselves Christians, they called themselves Culdees. The Apostles were Hebrew Nazarene Israelites, and the Culdees were Celtic Nazarene Israelites. Christianity is a greco-roman invention, it is not based on the bible, it is based on paganism.

[@daragildea7434]

@Billy McCarthy No, Hebrews are part of the Semitic race, and Celts are part of the Indo-European race. But Celtic religion was influenced by Semitic religion since the Bronze Age, because of the trade routes that existed between the eastern Mediterranean and Britain/Ireland. And the Culdee way was born after Nazarene Israelite missionaries came from Egypt in the 2nd. century. They chose Britain and Ireland for their mission because they knew about the connection between the Druid way and the mystical Israelite way (Kabbalah).

[@bryanpaulspencer9748]

@@daragildea7434 Hebrews are Semites, descendants of Shem. But aren't Indo-Europeans also descended from Shem ?

[@daragildea7434]

@@bryanpaulspencer9748 The whole human species cannot be descended from a tiny group of people that lived in the middle east a few thousand years ago, that is physically impossible. There are many legends of cataclysmic floods from many different places around the world. It is because there were many floods at the same time, and there were survivors of all of them, otherwise they would be no-one to tell of what happened. The Indo-Europeans are the descendants of Cain. After Cain murdered Abel, God put a mark on his forehead, Hindus put marks on their foreheads because they are descendants of Cain. And he went to a land east of Eden called Nod, which has exactly the same consonants as India. Only the Semitic peoples are the descendants of Shem.

[@progmanmike]

See Colossians, Galatians, Romans, Etc

[@fredgillespie5855]

@@daragildea7434 - "After Cain murdered Abel, God put a mark on his forehead, Hindus put marks on their foreheads because they are descendants of Cain." You must be a real genius to come to that conclusion. One major problem though - Cain's descendants were drowned in the Flood, all of them.

[@corcaighogormghus4618]

4:47 It was Ireland that did this. It is incorrect to link Scotland with this. The Irish Kingdom of Dál Ríata held land in modern day scotland. Iona was part of Ireland at this time. I'm not too sure if its trying to give Scotland credit because this is a British documentary or what but it is historically inaccurate to credit scotland with the work Ireland did. And there was no "Celtic Church". There was the church of ireland but this didn't include wales, Cornwall, scotland or any other Celtic places. 6 minutes in and its been poor so far.

[@edcarson3113]

You’re thinking Ireland was one Nation, that’s never been the case, only briefly under the British Monarchy. Ulidia/Ulster gas always been a different people. You need to drop your prejudice Corkie.

[@kilowhiskeyalpha6078]

Constantine sought the help of Satan, the cross central to his catharsis was the chi ro not the crucifix as it is portrayed to be in art or theology. The chi ro was a symbol of Zeus and the goat god Ammun the same god that Alexander the great claimed to be an incarnation of. Constantine is telling us what his motivation was that is to absorb and subvert the work of Yeshua.

[@rjltrevisan]

Sources please

[@kilowhiskeyalpha6078]

@@rjltrevisan Holy spirit.

[@rjltrevisan]

@@kilowhiskeyalpha6078 Explain, please.

[@kilowhiskeyalpha6078]

@@rjltrevisan Wipe the sleep from your eyes and expand your consciousness, make the connection.

[@rjltrevisan]

@@kilowhiskeyalpha6078 Heheh, that sounded very new age-ish

[@mirapilates]

As time went on, the persecuted became the persecuters. Just look at Hypatia of Alexandria. Dragged through the streets and murdered by Christian mob. I recommend a book called the Darkening by Catherine Nixey. It breaks a lot of misconceptions about early

[@yessam1460]

The crusades were a mission from God to take back the land of Europe Islam went all the way up to France then King Baldwin went and done his duty as a protector of our land we went all the way to the holy land and failed to take it back but got all the way back up to Turkey and around it back so Thank God for that, and the ancient pharohs of Egypt were red hair blonde hair green eyes blue eyes, they were white at one stage and taken from us in the past along with everything we built, the persecuted became the Victor's thanks to God's Glory

[@Adventismojuvenilangola]

Legend in Portuguese??? Please ????

[@slippery_slobber]

Now I can sing “Be thou my vision” without a burden in my conscience. It probably wasn’t written by catholics.

[@corcaighogormghus4618]

I understand that this is a channel that focuses on religion but from a historical standpoint this is poor. "Scotland" didnt exist back then and Iona was part of Irish territory. Scotland was irrelevent to the story

[@joachimjustinmorgan4851]

There are quite a few areas of Celtic spirituality in general like that they were in full communion with the Churches of the East / West that this video attempts to deny and portray them as Protestants in an effort to support their Protestant beliefs. They’ve invented their own history to support their beliefs.

[@corcaighogormghus4618]

@@joachimjustinmorgan4851 I don't fully understand what you mean can you expand please?

[@joachimjustinmorgan4851]

@@corcaighogormghus4618 you mention that there are historical reasons this is poor. The Celtic Church was fully part of / in communion with the Orthodox / Catholic Church under Constantinople, Rome, Jerusalem, Alexandria, and Antioch. The Celtic Saints like St Patrick and St David we’re part of those Churches and are the very same Churches that ordained them as priests and Bishops, sent them as missionaries, and then canonized them as Saints. But this video attempts to portray them as not being part of the Orthodox / Catholic Nicene faith. The Trinity is a great example because it is seen woven into Celtic knots going back to early centuries. The doctrine of the Trinity was articulated and put into writing at the first Nicene council called by Constantine which this video attempts to portray as being the antithesis of Celtic Christianity. That’s the furthest thing from the truth. This video is clearly attempting to recreate a history where the Celtic Church is somehow Protestant to the Orthodox / Catholic Church by trying to portray Celts as being at odds with the Church. There were no such thing as Protestants. Later of course in the 11th century the Church would split into Latin Catholics under the patriarch of the city of Rome (primarily in the West) and Eastern Orthodox under the patriarchs of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople (primarily in the East). But in my opinion this video attempts to create an alternate history that doesn’t exist. That stuff in great for fan fiction of novel and comic book genres, but has place here.

[@corcaighogormghus4618]

@@joachimjustinmorgan4851 Ah I see what you mean now. You're 100% right.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

@@joachimjustinmorgan4851 -- Or, perhaps Catholics invented history to support their beliefs.

[@progmanmike]

That SDA money hard at work

[@thepolyglotdude1530]

The early church was catholic and orthodox

[@geordiewishart1683]

But not Roman Catholic papist

[@salyluz6535]

After Constantine’s supposed conversion, and after the church hierarchy joined in an unholy alliance with the government, then the Councils begin. During that time and up until the Great Schism, this Constantinian Church is both catholic and orthodox- but it is not Roman Catholic. The Early, pre- Constantinian Church was based on the teaching of Jesus, the Apostles, and those they taught. In some places things were getting very unbalanced and out of line with Jesus and the Apostles after 300 years. We should always compare any new ideas with their Foundational teaching, so we don’t get off course. 💙🙏🏽💙

[@EnriquetoBelauro-dp6xq]

Waldensian,people of the vally for the holy purpose of God. Truelly they are just to enter God's gates of heaven.

[@fredgillespie5855]

If you read Bede carefully you will see that the debate was not about the correct date of Easter, it was about whether to keep Easter or the Passover. Easter is easily defeated simply because Jesus was not raised from the dead on the Sunday morning, he was raised three days and three nights after he died on the cross - having been crucified on the Wednesday He was raised on the Saturday at sunset. The Celtic Church kept the Passover (not Easter) on the 14th of the month. Also, there is no evidence that Peter was ever at Rome and a careful reading of the relevant passages will show that the Church was not built on Peter but on Jesus - the Chief Corner Stone.

[@csabraxas]

You misunderstand what it means to be in the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. The time period starts when Jesus declares my time has now come, right before he was betrayed by Judas

[@fredgillespie5855]

@@csabraxas - Where did you hear that convenient nonsense? Dead and buried for three days and three nights means exactly that. Jesus died on the cross, not in the garden of Gethsemane

[@maegardnermills4292]

Luke14:26 is hard to accept and it turns me away from Jesus.

[@maxinericheson5478]

Jesus Hebrew Name was Yeshua. In 1611 they called HIM Issus =Latin! In Greek Yeshuah or Yehoshua!

[@nowallpaper5611]

Greek spelling Ἰησοῦς (Iesous), from which, through the Latin Iesus, comes the English spelling Jesus. Yeshua becomes Iēsous. The English spelling for Iēsous is "Jesus." This means Joshua and Jesus are the same names.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

So that's fine; but since I'm not Hebrew or Latin or Greek, I'll call him Jesus.

[@k0smon]

Being faithful to God should not be equated to being faithful to the bible, a book bible scholar Bart Ehrman has described as being full of discrepancy, contradiction and error.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

The supposed contradictions and errors in the Bible lie in the minds, philosophies, and false religions of men. In my 74 trips around the sun I have encountered those who proport that in Scripture there are many so-called contradictions and errors. Using proper logic and the guidance of God, those seeming contradictions and errors melt away one by one. Yes, there are genuine contradictions in certain popular Christian teachings, but a knowledge of Bible truth exposes those errors. Let me provide an example of such a contradiction to be found in a widely held Christian teaching -- one that is noted at many Christian funeral services. A preacher will say something like, "Our dearly departed brother is now walking the streets of gold in heaven and is now united with his dear Savior Jesus." Later in the sermon this promise of Jesus is offered: "In my Father's house [in heaven] are many mansions...I go to prepare a place for you; and if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself, so that where I am, there ye may be also." John 14 verses 2 and 3. Do you see the contradiction? The preacher places the deceased person in heaven with Jesus, but Jesus said He would be united with the deceased _when He reurns._ Why would Jesus say "I will come again and receive you unto myself" if the deceased are already with Him in heaven? This misunderstanding of Scripture is resolved by a genuine understanding of what happens when we die. If anyone knows what happens to a man when he dies, it is the God who created man. In the Garden of Eden, after Adam and Eve disobeyed God's command to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, God came down and said to Adam, "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return to the ground, for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." Genesis 3 verse 19. Man's Creator says that when we die we "return to the ground." Why do many preachers say the dead go straight to heaven? The Bible prophets agree with the Creator. The psalmist David said of the dead: "His breath goeth forth, _he returneth to his earth,_ in that very day his thoughts perish." Psalm 146 verse 4. If he goes to the ground, or earth, and his thoughts perish, then how can he be in heaven and singing praises to God? We need not give up our faith in God or the Bible because the vast majority of Christian preachers teach that at death a person goes straight to heaven or hell. That is a teaching that infiltrated the early church after it began to mingle pagan teachings with Christian beliefs. Jesus taught that someday after He returned to heaven He would return to earth and gather His elect and take them to heaven so they could finally be with Him. Thus the Bible teaches the truth of the resurrection, which is when "the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the arch angel, and with the Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them [the dead who were in their graves since the days of Adam] in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians 4 verses 16 and 17. The dead return to the ground -- we bury or cremate them -- and remain there until Jesus our Lord returns to gather the righteous unto Himself. If it is not our choice to do God's will we shall never understand the truths of the Bible. Bart Erhman was once a devout Christian but he stumbled over the inconsistencies between the many versions of the Bible and over the seeming contradictions found in the many teachings of the vast number of sects within Christianity. He could not comprehend why God allowed the transcribers of Biblical texts through the centuries to make changes in the wording. Wasn't God able to protect His inspired word from being corrupted? Why would God allow scribes to change so many Bible texts. That led to his loss of faith in God, and today he is an "agnostic atheist." It is not Erhman's will to do God's will. He never discovered that amidst all the contradictions and errors among professed Christian churches there exists the pure word of truth. Instead of running here and there debating with Christian scholars, he should seek to dig for Biblical truth as one digs for earthly rubies and diamonds; and if He seeks, he will find.

[@Jerônimo_de_Estridão]

The Bible Alone...LoL please read his writings, you will find reference to sacraments, hierarchy, saints etc... sry they were NOT protestants.

[@Featherfuss]

The video is well done and beautiful but the history given is way out of context. Find the history of the Orthodox church and you will find the missing pieces.

[@tencow]

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[@harleybaker7712]

This darn guy just wil not give me the source documents for his claim that columbo kept shabbat... wher are they?

[@hesedagape6122]

You don't have to be inventive about history to make your denomination look better. Its high time SDA buries the hatchet with the Roman Catholic Church. You end up behaving just like them- telling dogmatic utilitarian lies. I don't see how your Easter story stacks up. Here alone you push the line that Celts differed with the rest of Christianity but this is impossible since these are Jewish festivals. Holy Week = Passover Easter = Omer Pentecost = Sukkoth If even Roman Catholics won't celebrate them the Jews would. In 2017 all 3 calendars- Jewish, Julian and Gregorian aligned. Clearly no one had changed anything except the mistake over Passover on Wednesday and Thursday as the day Jesus was killed.

[@djlorennezoebarnedo2848]

Hmmm..

[@jules9628]

The days of the week have never changed despite any calendar change! Look deeper- and you will find this to be truth. DO you think one day, a group of people, or yet, the whole world woke up, at their specific locations and countries, and said, lets make this Wednesday instead of Sunday! And, all at the same time? NO! Or did ever nation and area have their own switcharoos of days, and then the entire business world would be in utter chaos, as well as living it, indeed! The DAYS have MARCHED onward just as the seasons, and the nightime. Writing in a slight hostile manner in order to 'bury a hatchet?" to make it appear the adventist church needs to right a wrong is also error. History is history, no matter if it is "good" or "bad"; do you also want to make it mandatory for schools, not to teach history or hide certain parts, because they carry a hatchet against someone, yet, men and women of great and vast intellect as well as the common lay persons, know that world history and learning from it IS essential to ALL generations...and provides how to deal with future events, as history repeats and enlarges over decades and centuries.

[@hesedagape6122]

@@jules9628 you are seriously trying to defend your denomination against something you have no idea about. In my quest to accept Christianity I actually gobbled up a lot of SDA literature. I am Messianic Jewish in outlook because of that. The reason I didn't take to Adventism was they overstate their case against Roman Catholicism when you check against Rabbinic Jewish and Orthodox Catholic sources. I have not condemned you in the least but factionalism is of no essence at this point. We need Christians to bear fruit of the Holy Spirit not spread dogmatic propaganda no one wants to hear. That is why the West is falling. People don't need dogmatic religion for identifying with anymore. They want the experience of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. They are seeking it anywhere they can becuse most of us keep bearing fruit of the flesh while claiming we are in the right Church. Go and check what those 3 liturgical calendars are before you mount a defence. Also check the Quartodeciman controversy.

[@jules9628]

Nii Ayi Croffie I will look at what you shared. Perhaps years ago I went through that information already-having come to the conclusion accepted and moved on to other issues...However, being a lifelong researcher, I hold to what Ive spent years in, ongoing studies with prayer. I hold to the truth-not a name. God is good, His Spirit leads those to all truth. Jesus is worthy to be followed-not man. Amongst other issues, the calendar was a great or grand study and took convincing of plain facts found & investigated. We must not underestimate or assume others are not well read & spent many years in learning. Perhaps a quality most do not possess-not putting time and effort but accepting what is presented w/o much question.

[@jules9628]

I go by the weight of evidence, as there may always be a line here or there that does not fit into the overload of truth. Error finds a way of creeping in, or opinion. I do not believe the almighty God in heaven allowed the days to be changed. It is like saying day is night/night is day. Something written within the heart of 10 Commandments written by the Finger of God-not by man, in stone, solidifying unchangeable by man. To change a day, would be a true superhuman feat to perform. It is an impossibility. I know the history of the catholic system & their ways & beliefs... to go by what they say is not a safe route. I also know Jewish history fairly well but dont claim highest expertise- wishing you all the best though~

[@DF_UniatePapist]

This video is full of lies. It claims that Catholic practices did not begin until Constantine. However, if you read the writings of the early Church Fathers prior to Constantine, you will see that they held to all of the practices that the modern-day Catholic Church holds to.

[@geordiewishart1683]

No. They don't.

[@DF_UniatePapist]

@@geordiewishart1683 Yes. They do. Name any Catholic dogma, and I will show it to you in the pre-Constantinian Fathers.