LINIAN T&E Fire clip review Clips to Prevent Premature Collapsing of the Wiring System BS7671

[@artisanelectrics]

Nice video thanks! Great to finally have some T&E Clips we can use!

[@neilmartin3556]

How do you get it out if you have put it in the wrong place?

[@earlyyearslearningisfun]

A great video about a great product. 👍

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Very nice. In the US, we often fasten with plastic insulated metal staples, so if the plastic melts, the staple remains to hold up the wiring.

[@efixx]

Is the use of the metal staples required as part of your codes in the US?

[@anttrib]

Another option for fire rated fixings for Twin are Schneider electrical metal clips, basically the plastic clips but metal

[@mikeenglish1492]

anttrib . A much better option 👍

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

The Linian Fire Clips appear to provide a more secure fixing, I very much doubt you'd be able to pull or hang off a Schneider fire clip as Gary done in the video.

[@anttrib]

@@ashmanelectricalservices4318 and wiring twin in metal conduit would be even better. Fully up for using them on concrete/brick walls but who is going to be drilling 6mm holes in joists and rafters? I was only providing another fire rated fixing for twin, Mr negative.

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

@@anttrib My apologies if my comment came across as negative... On wooden joists or rafters, yes I agree with you, probably a cheaper and faster alternative but in masonry walls and ceilings, I'd probably go with Linian.

[@grumpygit447]

@@ashmanelectricalservices4318 you don’t have to hang off it It is only to support the cable

[@grahamturner6119]

Why don't they bring back the old style buckle clip

[@delspark]

nice clips and vid thanks for sharing love the new channel, while i was in the wholesaler the other day they did show me some metal ones like the old plastic can't remember the make

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

Probably Schneider fire clips... Should be ok on timber, I wouldn't wanna chance it on old motar joints though.

[@delspark]

Alvin Ashman yes agree nail wasn’t the longest

[@efixx]

Hi. Any solution that will prevent premature collapsing of the wiring systems has a massive thumbs up from me (Gaz). These clips were very simple to install and blended in with the wiring systems 👍😁. Thanks for the comment and feedback Gaz.

[@richardwash6678]

Great video, 👍

[@efixx]

Thanks for your continued support Gaz and Joe 👍

[@muzikman2008]

Great design!.. You could hide them inside pvc surface trunking too? After screwing the trunking to the wall drill a 6mm hole push the clip in, maybe a blob of intumescent seal to maintain ip integrity, voila done. These are the only ones I have seen so far that cover 90% of situations where support is required. The only issue I can see like someone else pointed out is... How do you remove them 🤔

[@efixx]

Hi. Thanks for the support 👍. vimeo.com/233296893 the video link should help. All the best Gaz

[@muzikman2008]

@@efixx ah.. Makes sense compress the clip. I thought they just relied on friction fitting with the barb. Neat 😊

[@kalel810]

I would like to use them but have you seen the price!!!, making it harder and harder for self employed electricians to afford stuff. £1.20 for plastic clips, £30 for them 🤔🤔 someones getting brown envelops.

[@triggsymalone9820]

I have a battery dewalt cable stapler and the staples are only £12 for 500 clips.. press the button and move on, so much easier

[@kalel810]

@@triggsymalone9820 yeah i saw that, might have to check it out. Thanks

[@davesmith7981]

Great video guys well done

[@stevefss1]

Nice to see a company still using twin and earth saying Did he really need to question does that mean CPC

[@gazdkw82]

What a brilliant product. Related question, is the void above a suspended ceiling seen as a preventative barrier to stop the callapse of a wiring system?

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

If the suspended ceiling supporting the wiring system has no fire redundant properties then no, the wiring system would need to be adequately supported by some other means.

[@gazdkw82]

@@ashmanelectricalservices4318 would the grid frame itself not be deemed as a structural barrier? They are usually a metal grid frame

[@ashmanelectricalservices4318]

@@gazdkw82 In my opinion, I won't deem this to be an appropriate means of preventing premature collapse of a wiring system as more often than not the cables are just pulled in and lashed across the top of the metal grid, when the ceiling tile catches light and fails, the loose cabling and slack will fall through the opening entangling anyone below.

[@Mattja1]

Looks great for bricks & blocks, but on wood I'll be sticking to the Schneider metal T&E clips as no drilling required.

[@dmlelectrics8990]

Schneider Electric Thorsman fire rated steel cable clips are another option. Tested up to 930 degrees Celsius so it says on the box.

[@efixx]

Hi. Thanks for the commenting 👍

[@G1ZQCArtwork]

Used Thorsman myself, they hammer in just like the standard clips, and as a bonus, you can remove them with a removal tool just as easy. Universal for 1.5 and 2.5 T&E cables.

[@grumpygit447]

How do they fit in brick and concrete are they as easy to push in

[@krissybufton]

I have a really important question…. Is Joe in any way related to the guy from pointless ?? He has literally the same voice !!!!

[@alanskowron9694]

What happens if you just put one in and realise you made a bit of a boo boo and want to get it out like you would be able to do with placky ones?????

[@peterevans3809]

They are a great product but the price makes them less favourable. I use a nail in type metal clip from Schneider which is about a quarter of the price and can be easily removed and reused if required. Most customers don’t understand, nor care about the updates in the 18th edition of BS7671. They care about getting the job done for a reasonable price. With all these expensive additions there’s no wonder so many cowboys are getting so much work. Bodge it and leg it!! Any decent spark knows and agrees the importance of safety in our game, but the authors of the big and very expensive blue book, along with the manufacturers of these clips etc need to see the real world. At the front line it’s all about cost and making it more expensive ultimately makes it less safe💰💰

[@efixx]

Thanks for your detailed comment Peter. Have a wonderful weekend 👍. Gaz

[@jim2757-w8m]

What a nice product, just have to find a stockist.

[@billread9383]

good vid clips look simple and easy to use, have you seen the Schneider Thorsman Fire Rated Cable Clips for Twin Earth Cable - 1-2.5mm??

[@frankhayes1135]

What about plasterboard surfaces?

[@Candisa]

Drinking game: Have a shot every time he says "PVC PVC Twin'n'CPC".

[@efixx]

👍 great idea - we get to choose the drink - or as we would call it grain based alcoholic beverage

[@Candisa]

@@efixx Cool, you're going to fit some extra "PVC PVC Twin'n'CPC"s in the next one I presume? ;-)

[@robbbenedict]

The building is presumably burning, cables falling (inside the wall?) are probably not a big deal.

[@efixx]

It's more about surface mounted cables and suspended over escape routes dropping down and entangling fire fighters attempting to deal with the blaze/get people out.

[@robbbenedict]

@@efixx surface mounted cabling makes sense. Though, even if on fire, wouldn't the insulation layers just melt first, leaving the wire itself suspended by the straps (which would hold longer with this product). I can see how it's useful, has it been made code yet? I'm in Canada, not sure about adoption here yet.

[@dreadlysmellybum]

How much!

[@triggsymalone9820]

I am sure these guys are getting paid to advertise products...

[@triggsymalone9820]

Ps £30 for a 100 lol

[@neiltrevatt]

Looks like a thermalite block not a breeze block

[@michaelhoward9358]

Never wear gloves when using a hand held power tool that rotates