Link's Awakening, Remakes, Art Styles, and OPINIONS

Link's Awakening is getting a remake, and opinions on the art style are split. So let's talk about the game, the hubbub surrounding it, and even about opinions themselves.
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[@SleepyFawn]

There was a miiverse guy who reviewed the water in every Wii U game he could get ahold of.

[@fancyb.p.6122]

What was his favorite Water

[@jjopification]

Adam Mills He seemed quite indifferent about any kind of water. He got aroused about Black Flags oceans just as much as with same-colored puddles in your everyday GBA games.

[@davemarx7856]

That's one heck of a -gimmick- passion

[@MERCHIODOS]

I remember him playing a Lego game and saying "For a Lego game, that some realistic water"

[@Bulba413]

BUT WHY?

[@nintendubs2265]

I love that we can have these philosophical debates on a youtube page for a muppet who reviews video games.

[@link5205]

Muppet ? He's from sesame street ! How DARE you bring up... the "Other guys"...

[@katmannsson]

Real though

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHXTiGRpas-mmbs Here’s an actual debate there’s time stamps in the pinned comment. Arlo doesn’t seem to understand the definition of arguments. They are something you make to support your point of view not just people yelling insults. It’s perfectly fine acceptable and polite to make arguments against another stance it is not inherently insulting to make reasoned arguments.

[@sunfeatherX3]

"accuracy shouldn't always be the end goal of a remake". CAN YOU PLEASE TELL DISNEY.

[@ethanhendershot6254]

IKR that’s why the lion king remake was so weird, it’s like I love the lion king but I don’t want a shot for shot remake

[@kevinjr6650]

Someone told disney and they made that mulan garbage. How could you!

[@johnschwalb]

@@ethanhendershot6254 its not a shot for shot remake...no dress in drag doing the hula

[@axelvoss9653]

They don't even do that, they lazily recreate the visuals and the songs while also missing key details that prove they don't understand what made them work the first time, and every so often they'll make some needless little changes that actually take away more than they add. Or they make a Mulan. Which is arguably worse.

[@nintendolife]

Well, I mean, that's just your opinion...

[@ZippyRagu]

Nice opinion

[@gumble808]

is this alex from nintendo life here?

[@silver9767]

Big lebowsky reference?

[@joshmay2944]

mannn!

[@connorsturgeon8863]

Let's be real we all just want Zelda to go back to the first two Zelda CDI games' art style

[@metaltom2003]

*shudders*

[@popnson6037]

It sure is boring around here

[@FamilyTeamGaming]

@@popnson6037 Mah boi... This peace is what all true warriors strive *for*.

[@ryanspencer3106]

what could possibly go wrong?

[@clark5317]

FamilyTeamGaming *"I'm so hungry I could eat a Dodongo!"*

[@_elynas]

An earthbound remake in the style of Links Awakening would be perfect

[@ireallylikenintendo6366]

I have never agreed with anything more in my entire life

[@ihatestairs9034]

PK stfu Ω too bad Nintendo doesn’t care about earthbound anymore

[@ireallylikenintendo6366]

Eustace Bagge you just completely went against the point arlo is trying to say literally in this video

[@maddosshmillore]

That would be awesome

[@ABitofEpicness]

Ive been thinking about this all week

[@kevinr.9733]

It feels more clay-like than plastic to me. Clay sculptures painted and glossed, with some ceramic tilework thrown in for good measure. I like it.

[@CrissBluefox]

My dad always told me that when people result to attacking your character, they have lost the argument.

[@TheRegularHedgehog575]

See flat earthers? People who have intelligence win!

[@NapaCat]

@@TheRegularHedgehog575 Or Suspicious0bserver followers. ESPECIALLY them.

[@mrpyrostorm3165]

The art style is a HUGE call back to the Japanese commercial for Links Awakening on Game Boy. It is also a style that mirrors the original game. In that context the art style is not all that surprising.

[@lawthirtyfour2953]

It's nice that the video addresses your exact points.

[@mrpyrostorm3165]

I forgot to add this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqPPYZasd6uaec0 I think it's pretty cool to see how the commercial is represented in the remake. To those in the comments, I'm not arguing with anyone. Just offering context as to why Nintendo might have gone with the style.

[@supersmashbro596]

also with the shift in style between the opening and the game kinda makes sense if you know the twist. it's all a dream, and dreams hardly look realistic. my one ask is that at least the artstyle used during the intro is used at least one more time. when link reads and reacts to the relief of the southern face shrine.

[@StreakedSilver]

Then by that logic, LTTP should be a rap dance remake. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZvTea2Cjq2eraM ...... Actually that would be pretty sweet to see just as like a side quest thing..

[@LordFinkenstein]

In this video a man spends an inordinate amount of time talking about how much he dislikes the way people dislike other people disliking things.

[@maddog5284]

Rember we dont talk zelda politics around family

[@zab1142]

Energetic force especially when...... Dear God smirking !

[@maddog5284]

@@bandicootsauce4569 o and dont forget hyrule has the longest dictitorship in history

[@Antasma1]

You know, it was wrong for them to deport those interlopers. They just have wants like everyone else. People should stop comparing all Twili to Zant

[@NASIRUB1]

I like the new look, I think it has a unique style. If they made a game series with the same graphics over and over, each game wouldn't have its own unique feel and design, plus this might give the game the ability to stand up to time just like games that were made in a cell shaded style back then.

[@Lucy-bd6us]

Also it's just adorable. It's all so goddamn cute I love it.

[@eddie0252]

Like new super mario bros

[@user-rn2lj8kz1u]

I honestly like the art style, aside from the way the characters look. The claymation aesthetic is kind of neat.

[@gumble808]

I love the art style and the characters, I just wish there was some diversity in the square for square assets- for example, a forest of the same trees and perfectly cut grass

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

I get more of a claymation vibe from it and personally I dig it

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Plus the puppets

[@Dharengo]

This!

[@lw1391]

Glad to hear someone else thinks this too (love the claymation style) - besides, there is no sense in repeating the original graphical style. That game already exists. Why not try something a bit new?

[@timofcent1]

You're objectively wrong in your subjective opinion. You only feel that way because you such and such.

[@timofcent1]

In all seriousness, I'm not really a fan of the style. But thinking of it as claymation makes it a little easier to swallow. Either way, I'm going to love the heck out of this game regardless of art style.

[@RhythmGrizz]

I like the art style fine. Personally I'm just happy to get a new Zelda game. This is a new golden age for Nintendo fans.

[@OmegaChase1002]

Switch online dont look like gold.

[@jacqueline6475]

So, how do you feel today?

[@bencoventry335]

I think it looks alright excited to play it !

[@xebatansis]

"New".

[@fangchick93]

Absolutely, this is a great year to be a Nintendo lover.

[@MilkPudding]

The BRILLIANCE of Zelda games is they have different art styles yet they all work so well. It follows Nintendo's design philosophy strictly, form follows functions.

[@link5205]

If the Links Awakening remake was in black and white though...

[@AccountName_]

What function is this form following?

[@hollybriggs1701e]

I adore the art style they went to in the remake. It’s so adorable. I wanted to play it because it looked so cute.

[@SnowyJop]

Something to keep in mind is that everyone can have their opinion, but that doesn't mean all opinions are created equally. It might be someone's "opinion" that The Shawshank Redemption is a horrible movie, but without facts, arguments, or logic to back that opinion up - it can easily be labeled as a poor opinion or at least a poor manifestation of an opinion. In particular, if someone sends their opinion into a public sphere, such as Twitter or KZbin, they should reasonably expect that opinion to be questioned and even criticized. In fact, people often benefit from this as it encourages them to consider how different viewpoints interact with their own leading to a more comprehensive perspective. Opinions ought to be challenged and discussed. Robust discussion and disagreement are often how good ideas flourish and bad ideas wither. Opinions are not some sacred standpoint that protects you from criticism. I do agree with you that people should refrain from namecalling or attacking others during disagreement, but it seems to me like your standpoint is discouraging lively conversation. If someone says "the new Zelda art style is trash," without any logic or evidence, I think it's appropriate to say their opinion is underdeveloped or poorly thought out.

[@mountain-1]

This comment is underated

[@davemarx7856]

😑 no u 😉 you make good points. Especially about what is expected when one puts their own opinion into the public sphere.

[@ohwowitsthatguy9154]

Agreed, though I don't think that was quite Arlo's conclusion-more "even if you think your opinion is better thought out, you can't expect that to necessarily change someone's mind, or think that your opinion is 'objectively' better".

[@ClassyReviews]

Agreed

[@ew275x]

Exactly, once you give arguments for your opinion they can be debated. You can say "I like Mario 64 it's the best game ever" and that's fine. People might question how well thought out your opinion if it's based on you thinking that because the moon is made of cheese, you liked the final boss against the saxophone monster, and you only played the game for 5 minutes in your cousins house back in 1997.

[@wintershiny4888]

I’m excited as I’ve never gotten to play this game before.

[@ForceWave-1139]

Discorded Spectrum I never got that far, but I love Koizumi’s other Nintendo games, so I hope it’s faithful!

[@turtleanton6539]

Luckyu

[@geesegalore5594]

@@chiefexecutivebutttaster1758 Dude I was about to talk about how I was excited to rediscover everything too, but then you felt the need to write that horrific second paragraph. Why did you have to put these things into my mind? who hurt you???

[@supersmashbro596]

you're in for a treat. i will say, as someone who has started with the original game: i can think up of one really good story-related reason as to why koholint looks so... plastic-y.

[@dullicecream]

Same here

[@Keera2288]

I feel that the skyward sword art style would have really fit the Link's Awakening remake really well. I always felt that the art style felt very dreamlike.

[@Vvonter]

But with a top view angle? I don't know.

[@henryalexander7325]

4:12 But if you built your house in the hills and your neighbor built theirs in the trees... They wouldn't be your neighbor

[@mechajay3358]

That's true.

[@pokefanlight]

I still like the example.

[@cameronroy2129]

@@pokefanlight its kinda a shitty example though because its a blatant bad faith exaggeration since a confident person would just argue not be insane like how he sees it

[@SmashGuyROA]

A Super Mario RPG remake with this toy artstyle would be perfect!

[@Kill_Command]

hell no

[@thesludgeboss5907]

Hell yes

[@DaNintendude]

Actually I agree. The renders for the game and the sprites themselves have this stiff toylike feel that would be amazing if made toylike in a remake. Just... hold off the shininess on everything. That's my only problem with the remake's artstyle.

[@JetWolfEX]

It should look like the concept art, like the game cover.

[@Savage--]

I'd need to see concept art with it to agree... but intriguing idea.

[@commanderdingdong422]

I completely agree with you Arlo. Also as someone studying to be a geologist I can firmly say that BotW has the best rocks of all.

[@stevenn1940]

I don't know. Rock of ages has some good ones. Namely the titular ones.

[@gamerorp1684]

Wouldn't you like to know *ROCK BOI*

[@DrRank]

"But it's a rock." "I KNOW IT'S A ROCK! Don't you think I know a rock when I see a rock? I've spent a lot of time around rocks!" - Flik and Dot, A Bug's Life

[@BigBenediX]

I believe the Zelda franchise has always been a big giant collection of different art style that in theory shouldn’t be able to work in one continuity and yet... it isn’t really bothersome. I just see it as different artists giving their own art style to add variety and contribute to that big artwork that is the franchise. If I don’t like the art style this time around, well I can sit this one out and maybe next time I would get something more fitting for my taste (such as BOTW 2 for example).

[@pseudonymous7557]

good point, and I really think that works for the Zelda franchise as a whole. each game is that age's retelling of the eternal story of Link's triumph over evil. it makes sense for Windwaker, for example, to look like a fun whimsical adventure because that's exactly how a seafaring, pirate- esque civilization would recall that story over a few rounds of rum

[@anibalhyrulesantihero7021]

I would love to see Oracle of Ages and Seasons remade for the Switch.

[@Ridley369]

Hell yes.

[@maddywildin4389]

I am officially sick of watching link swing his sword at that chubby fish and missing it!😑😑😑

[@Okapi540]

Every single time I think, "This time he'll get it!"

[@joe-moe]

Yeah but that's just, like, your opinion, man

[@quantrindic5488]

This aggression will not stand

[@davemarx7856]

Pai has a very punchable face Joe moe... your profile picture is...

[@zanzanzanzan]

Came looking for this in the comments

[@derbar1401]

Lebowski rules!

[@clayton_games]

Lol

[@robintst]

I really didn't see the "toy" look of the aesthetic until you mentioned it. Still think it's adorable as all get out.

[@parkinsoft1810]

"You are not the thot police." -Arlo, on May 1st 2019

[@theultimategamer3989]

Ain't it March though

[@11Legorex]

I was not expecting this going into the comments but I can't say I'm disappointed, well done sir

[@hudsondunn8385]

I just want a majoras mask like sequel for BOTW.

[@TraeceJay]

Hudson Dunn you said it brother

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

well botw already had only 4 dungeons that were all terrible and swords that broke after 50 hits

[@Thierce]

@@yourehereforthatarentyou lmao, sadly you couldn't wear the faces of the deceased champions though

[@divineavocado7648]

Do you mean a sequel that is similar to majoras mask, or a sequel to botw the way oot had a sequel which was majoras mask

[@lynneross2115]

Oh boy, ABSOLUTELY I would be on that.

[@UniversalSketch]

I like the art style but I felt cheated when there was a cool hand drawn style opening for the trailer I thought we were getting a hand drawn two dimensional zelda game.

[@jennilocke]

I think that's the main problem. A lot of people thought the game was going to be more like the cinematic, but i honestly don't think that particular style would fit Link's Awakening.

[@dtothee8730]

I think that's the part that a lot of people had a problem with. It's like Diablo mobile all over again. You made them expect one thing and give them something entirely different. You can't blame the customers for that.

[@TheKabuto90]

I mean, the original back on the gameboy had the exact same thing with the opening. And this kind of artstyle matches the game perfectly, based on what the original looked like.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

@@dtothee8730 thats the whole point of links awakening especially when you see the puppetry of the japanese commercials

[@davemarx7856]

Universal Sketch You've a neat profile picture.

[@Aquaticset]

in my opinion, i like the style for the game, it makes the game feel more new and glossed over like a toy ( like you mentioned ) but your opinion is also understandable, it is a little over the top maby sometimes

[@cubersanonymous5180]

Maybe*

[@S4ns]

I'd leave a comment but I wouldn't want to be accused of being "closed minded" or "immature" for discussing someone's opinion.

[@KorporalNoobs]

You are truly stunning and brave... or literally Hitler, who am i to judge? Both can be true. I mean are true. And valid.

[@cameronroy2129]

@@KorporalNoobs there are no more comments because as Arlo said we aren't supposed to comment back against a comment because of that dumb free speech thing

[@NapaCat]

@Fluffynator There's a major difference between trying to tear down an opinion and debate it reasonably.

[@elsa6866]

take a shot every time he says “opinion”

[@dreamerabe]

Do you want people to die from alcohol intoxication?!

[@Ponaru]

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken.

[@peterb8398]

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[@JohnnyDoorknob]

@@zogwort1522 ?

[@jhozan]

I personally really like the art style. If you dislike the style, that's fine. More power to you. But I really enjoy it, and hope more games adopt a similar style (cough EARTHBOUND REMAKE cough)

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

Yeah, this looks totally MOTHER-y. Didn't those games also have clay artworks?

[@protoluigi2047]

Actually that's not a terrible idea, in fact, that is the best idea I ever heard for a remake. In fact, I got a better idea, what if the Mother trilogy was released digitally for the Switch to bring old fans and new fans into the series, but months later, they announce remakes of the original trilogy fully remastered for the Switch just like Crash Bandicoot N Sane Trilogy but with the Link's Awakening remake art style!!

[@puncake_general318]

That sounds good, but I can't really see how they could recapture the eeriness of giygas with that artstyle

[@quinnv.3499]

Honestly had a dream that they remade the mother trilogy in that art style lol

[@societyman9219]

Jhozan the final boss would be ruined with this art style

[@Sephiroth1984]

Man your analysis of the art style and how wrong it is for this game is spot-on. I am in mourning over what they've done with Link's Awakening and I was actually looking forward to a remake of LA. :(

[@TOMMYTV-xl5fb]

The art style is fantastic.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

TOMMY.TV I disagree. The art style is kiddy, unoriginal and jarring. I don’t like it.

[@OutOfTheShadows1]

@@happymaskedguy1943 I can see why, But I kinda disagree, it look's decent (although I'd prefer the link between worlds style for this tbh). but I'd like to wait for the final release before completely judging it.

[@LittleLionRawr]

I think it looks fine. Definitely like how they translated the original to 3D. Really like they're keeping so true to the original. I also think the shiny unrealistic style fits with a story that's not happening in regular reality. I would definitely also like to see a Zelda in the anime style of that intro but I don't mind this one isn't that. In fact, I'd rather have a completely new Zelda in that art style so that the game can be designed from the ground up with that art style in mind... I definitely don't think the art style is unoriginal/jarring. Maybe child like, but that's not an issue. There's really nothing wrong with that.

[@bringmeliara1286]

The art style's fine for what it is- definitely just the exact same game, but they took the sprite sheet and converted it to 2.5d. and for a zelda with mario elements in it, I think it fits well enough. Mario loves being plastic and I love plastic mario. To me zelda can be any art style, I don't think it has a set identity in that department. If this had been a brand new game, no one would have raised an eyebrow. This one just feels kind of jarring, for a remake? when they remade majora and oot and windwaker that was nicer, because thats how good I thought it looked when I was a kid. they didn't completely change the style of them. which, by the way, there's nothing wrong with trying new art styles. they're everywhere and zelda does it ALL THE TIME. but if you're remaking something and you want it to be completely faithful, I don't get why that would be the one element to make a complete departure. Personally, if i want to play the exact same game i enjoyed as a kid, I'll just go pick up the exact same game i had as a kid, or emulate it. i don't want brand new graphics because thats part of the charm. but a lot of people do, they want their old games to look just as good as all the new ones. so just update the sprites so they look modern. It's not like 2-d, pixellated games don't sell anymore. fix the colors, add more frames to the animations, update the pixel count- improve what you already have. thats the whole point of a remake, isn't it? if you keep everything the same except the style, then whats the point? Why wouldn't you keep making changes? that would be like them only changing the music. or just changing the mechanics of the game. either do a faithful remake, or go all out with a reimagining. These half-way things just seem to put people off, and they give me a weird vibe, personally. I don't know, those are just my thoughts on the situation. I'm not huge on remakes anyway, since I figure the games already been done, why do it again? and actually I kind of always hope it'll end up being what the developers would've made if they had done it today, instead of way back when. I know thats not at all what anyone but me wants to see, but its always a little disheartening. maybe it feels a little like wasted potential? I just want new games from nintendo, not more of the same old. again though, thats just me. like seriously, Ive yet to see another nintendo fan, aside from Arlo, who wants to see something brand spanking new and exciting for these awesome franchises. which is why he so fun to watch. we can get super hyped and raise our hopes impossibly high, and then be disappointed together :p

[@gamersinger5118]

@@LittleLionRawr It is just trying to keep as faithful to the original as they can while giving it more than just a slightly noticeable in it's artistic change. First time I saw it I thought this was weird. Now looking at it especially compared to the original it actually does make sense trying to keep the feel of the original which was a great charm of the original.

[@MrIcenice44]

2:45 You went a little too hard on the mid-path thing. Conversation should be civil, of course, but arguments made in bad faith should be labeled as such in conversation. If they don't know how that opinion sounds, tell them how it sounds. You don't have telepathy, but you have ears and eyes.

[@curiouslittlecritter1057]

It’s pretty stupid what he was saying, you shout be able to call out hateful and toxic opinions (racism, sexism etc). Obviously I agree when I comes to links awakening but not all arguments/opinions

[@defeqel6537]

Also, it is valid to "attack" an argument; "I like the new art style because of X", "But X is not true for the art style"

[@Daremodesu]

@@defeqel6537 i like X artstyle despite what people might say. (: p)

[@HalloBruce]

Hateful and misinformed opinions should be called out, and Arlo says as much at 21:27. But his main point is that you should be MINDFUL-- we're often too quick to assume different opinions/arguments are made in bad faith, when really they're just... different.

[@VnsFurs]

Agreed. Especially when those kind of assumptions are being made from opinions formed out of bite sized comments online. Be mindful and also try your best to respect someone's differing view point, regardless of what it is.

[@dylantee44]

I feel like I got a lecture on opinions rather then a discussion about links awakening. Edit: When I clicked on the video I didn't see opinions in the title in capital letters and I didn't read the description. I didn't expect such a large portion of the video to be dedicated to opinions and I was considering getting link's awakening and it would've been my first Zelda game. I understand that I should have known a large part of the video would be about opinions so I shouldn't have expressed disappointment as there was no reason for me to have it.

[@dillonkoester5530]

True, but the whole thing is about opinions on Link's Awakening. Edit: After thinking about it, I do agree and I wish the video was more centered around Link's Awakening and not a philosophical discussion.

[@swinefluwillkillu]

i got to the 5 minute mark and was wondering what the hell i was doing wasting my time. I think i'm getting a bit bored of these videos where he just rambles about mostly nonsense

[@GoopyGum]

@@swinefluwillkillu I think he actually made a very good point about the manner of opinions and the culture surrounding them in video games. At least, I found it really fun and interesting to listen to.

[@PickleAndPearBTBM]

@@swinefluwillkillu pretty much in his videos that arent reviews are just 20 minuets of rambling.

[@Cooleocarter]

Ya I’m a fan of his but this video did not need to be 22 mins...

[@whoanelly8403]

My only problem with this game is Link's face... 😅

[@PinkKips]

This is a great video, but there's two things I wish you would have mentioned: Objectivity exists. Not all opinions are equal because not all of them are well informed. This doesn't matter when talking about something like an artstyle, but it does in other subjects. The second thing ties into the first. Saying "I don't like this" is completely reasonable. You're just stating an opinion and you don't even really have to be able to defend it. When someone says "this is bad" though, you're not longer saying what you think, you're phrasing it like what you're saying is objectively true. This is also fine, but in this case you need to be able to back up what you're saying. If you say something's bad, "it's just my opinion" doesn't explain how said thing is bad. Anyways, I hope this game has new content they just haven't shown us yet. I'm super excited regardless though. EDIT: just remembered, the split doesn't really seem 50/50. It seems like most people like how the game looks, and a large chunk of people who said they don't ended up just not liking Links eyes. It's not everyone, but I don't think there's a huge divide

[@LittleLionRawr]

Well... Recently quantum physicists discovered evidence objective reality may not actually exist after all.... xD (go search for it ;-) )

[@LittleLionRawr]

By the way, if you say something's bad, "it's just my opinion" just clarifies the statement was not meant to be stating a fact. There's nothing wrong with that either. In fact, it fully excuses someone to back up what they were saying since they made it their own opinion. That in turn also means it fully excuses others to have/keep their own opinion on the matter. There's nothing wrong with stating an opinion in a way that seems like stating a fact. And saying "it's just my opinion" is a perfectly valid clarification afterwards. ;-)

[@PinkKips]

@@LittleLionRawr I disagree. "It's just my opinion" doesn't explain why something is bad. And again, it's possible for someone to be wrong, objectively speaking, when they state an opinion. It's a lot easier to say "I don't like this" because someone can't argue that you *do* like it. I guess the phrasing just shows if you're willing to debate the topic.

[@PinkKips]

I think a good example of this would be someone saying "breath of the wild is the worst game of all time." Objectively speaking, they're wrong. If someone says "I think breath of the wild is the worst game of all time." You can't argue that. It's possible to disagree, but you couldn't argue that they *don't* think that

[@LittleLionRawr]

@@PinkKips No it doesn't explain why it is bad. It doesn't even try to do that. It explains the person making that statement has the _opinion_ that it's bad. It explains that it's a subjective statement, not an objective one. In their opinion it is bad (i.e. they dislike/disagree with it for some reason). It's a clarification. Well you might find it easier to say "I don't like this" but really that's easier for the reader/listener. What's most easy for the writer/speaker of the statement is just expressing their opinion however they want. So if they say _"this is bad"_ and really _mean_ "in my opinion this is bad" it's just their way of saying it. Inconvenient for you, especially if you take things literally and only as opinion if it's explicitly stated as opinion. But lets be real, most opinions aren't. 90% -(*warning arbitrarily chose percentage)- of opinions are expressed in a fact form. And most of the time it's not done to show a willingness to debate, but rather just nonchalant expression. Clarifying that it's their opinion afterwards shows a clear _unwillingness_ to debate that opinion (or at least an unwillingness to change it). Frankly, being very specific about stating your opinions in opinion form shows more of a willingness to debate. Since you're explicitly making that distinction. ;-)

[@joughnut496]

I love the newer intro with the weird noises!

[@joughnut496]

The Luigi’s mansion three one is the best

[@jamieyakimets839]

Slothster 0612 There was a recent Arlo intro that was just like ‘waoha ’ and it’s great

[@joughnut496]

They’re all great

[@timbojohnson7213]

on the rare occasions he now uses the Switch snap sound I'm a little saddened because that means half a second of less Arlo goodness in my life :'(

[@TheArloFanCommunity]

Thank you so much Kane for putting my 100% very real tweet in Arlo’s video 0:20 (I’m BenBen)

[@chiefexecutivebutttaster1758]

You rascal, you feel like having a rough sadomasochistic three way with our boi Arlo later?

[@medes5597]

You're one of my favourite commenters on KZbin. It genuinely warms my heart to see Arlo has such dedicated fans. My little sisters are 6 and 9 and they love Arlo, so your comments always make me think of them, I think that's why I always like seeing you. Like neither of them has a switch but they will watch Arlo videos because they love him and how he acts on camera.

[@TheArloFanCommunity]

Terry Beardmore :’)

[@jwoodsonmusic]

AUGHHH ITS BENBEN ITS ME YOUR BIGGEST FAN!!!

[@MarioXMan100]

I agree with everything you said Arlo except I feel you didn't condemn some of the actions on the other side or show that the other side of the argument has been guilty of many of the things you condemn the liking side of doing as well. Also I feel there is also some people who have taken a step over criticizing the game over to just insulting it and I don't think that that is a very constructive way to share criticism and that should be address too.

[@WeissM89]

The art style is so cute! I'm 5 months away from being 31, and it kind of brings me to my childhood, sitting on the floor with my toys all over the place. I love it. Wait, you don't like SS's art style? I respectfully disagree with you and still want to be your friend, but you deserve a disapproving frown. The Wii made some games look very blurred and washed out. TP is a very good example, and to me, SS's aesthetics were an improvement.

[@Abby-le6sl]

HOOGY SPOOKY!!!!!!! I'm not going, I just felt left out.

[@WaluigiisthekingASmith]

Arlo should reference the rocks in a game in every review

[@Abby-le6sl]

@@WaluigiisthekingASmith That's very unrelated.

[@BugsyFoga]

I honestly really like it's cute chibi art style 😁👌

[@sealdogderp26]

I wish I can like it but I personally just dislike it as it is to cartoony for me ( still getting it prayers to like it)

[@sealdogderp26]

Tbh I am fine with most things just not link the dream girl is adorable but link is to cartoony in my opinion Edit I mean in people design not the world design

[@The_RedVIII]

It's not the chibi character that's the problem though, it's the plastic.

[@KuruptR]

Cool I hope the $60 dollar price tag is also cute 😁👌

[@krewl5820]

Yea it's wonderful

[@ferdinandavila-soto7233]

16:10 "Accuracy shouldn't always be the end goal of a remake. I think capturing the spirit of the original and expanding on it, overall improvement, should be the goal." I hadn't thought of it that way before. Remakes sometimes bug me when they change things from the original material, but in hindsight, that's a surface-level reading of a work. That quote's a good one to remember.

[@kaysonoleen5261]

I just think it’s funny people will dislike cartoony/cutesey Zelda when ... THE FREAKING GORONS

[@wyattmerrill2588]

I don't love the glossy look of the trees but I do like the look of the castle. My biggest beef is that Link doesn't seem to have any emotion in his face and that his head is so large. He looks like an elf from the old Rudolph the red nose reindeer movie. That being said, I'll most likely get it.

[@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093]

I dlnt really like the art style but i dissagree with the people who say that nintendo is just being lazy which i personally dissagree with.

[@kylecampbell565]

I’m so sick of Arlo disregarding stuff he isn’t a fan of as lazy. That word is starting to lose its meaning

[@raypolaris3381]

According to Arlo, you're close-minded and insecure if you disagree with him.

[@bensjammin9]

Context is definitely important. I have mixed feelings on Link’s Awakening’s art style, largely because it’s a remake. If this art style were used for an entirely new top-down Zelda, I think I would be much more accepting of it (although I’m not a fan of the toy style used in games like Yoshi’s Crafted World and this new Link’s Awakening - it just doesn’t gel with me at all). But because it’s in a remake, I would prefer something more like ALBW HD. The anime intro to the trailer looked amazing and it was jarring to then be thrown into a plastic toy looking box of a game. I’ll still buy it, I will probably enjoy it, but... I def have mixed feelings on the style

[@alexperaza9475]

That's funny because I actually have the opposite opinion. I'm very accepting of the new Link's Awakening art style BECAUSE it's a remake. If they had announced a completely new 2D game and it had this art style? I think I would have been more resistant or disappointed by it. I don't know what it is, but I guess because it is a remake, nostalgia factors into it a great deal. And so the toy aesthetic makes sense to me because we also associate toys with feelings of nostalgia and it all comes together nicely for me. It's like, I dunno, breaking out my old Lego collection and building something with it.

[@bensjammin9]

Alex Peraza That’s fair. Actually I can kinda get behind that idea too, since the change in art style (whether one likes it or not) could be much less jarring if it’s just a remake since that’s more of a side project for them while they work on the big stuff. I still feel meh on the toy styled design, but your analogy is a nice way to think of it.

[@shawnr8438]

I tend to gravitate towards darker grittier mature games but I honestly love this art style. Day one buy for me

[@rayflyers]

[Insert comment ironically invalidating Arlo's opinion]

[@sonicoftime2708]

RayFlyer What do you mean

[@willcollison1144]

if they did this game in the anime/manga art style in the intro then mmmmmmmnnnnn this would be perfect

[@funkydiner]

The style is new, fresh and unique. I like it, would feel good playing it.

[@higurashikai09]

It’s adorable, I want it Also: #WhereIsWindWakerSwitch

[@qioxqiox316]

Oh my God yes.

[@nickb6425]

Here we are at Zelda’s 35th anniversary, still asking this question lol. But heyyy Skyward Sword and joy cons! 🤣

[@overrated2975]

Isn't it complaining to complain about the complainers?

[@ThePersonAwesome]

There’s a load of people complaining about other people complaining about the art style. Yet I’ve seen very few complaints with the art style. We’re perpetuating a problem that doesn’t even exist with videos like this.

[@Navarchil]

He's not saying we shouldn't complain about anything, just that we should be stating reasons instead of calling the other person to be 'idiots', 'fanboys' etc, which you see from a lot of video game debates. Just look at the Pokemon Let's Go fights XD

[@tagonizer]

@@ThePersonAwesome I mean, by definition a complaint is a negative opinion. So, technically, Arlo is complaining about the art style in this very video.

[@dtothee8730]

Everyone thinks the opposing side is the bad one. Arlo as well. To me, whomever says "you don't get to challenge my opinion" is the tumor of the problem. You wanna express? That's means somebody's gotta listen. You express to the public, the public is going to express back. If you don't want that, don't express your opinions to the public in the first place. Nice and simple. Calling names is out of the question though. Don't get me wrong.

[@epochthekid]

Galaxy brain

[@beelzzebub]

I didn’t realise there was a split opinion - the HD miniature look of this new game is incredible. I wasted something similar in Pokemon!

[@blinkingberry9591]

It's incredible, yes. But does it fit the game? Maybe.

[@danrei9210]

@@blinkingberry9591 Yes it does with Link's awakening, the adventure is the dream of a child. So the toy-like art style is okay. But with pokemon? Nah.

[@fortunate_bus8319]

I thought that too I thought people would love the artstyle

[@RhythmGrizz]

That would be cool

[@irritatedengineer9654]

It’s the dream of a whale but also the dream of a child but it might’ve been the dream of a whale being had by a child

[@mq8858]

Well, before Wind Waker there was also that EPIC trailer (with Gohma or something in 2001 if I remember right) and gave people an idea, and then WW was the opposite of that idea. I love this cute art style for Link's Awakening, and I don't see why it's controversy is compared to WW. Even so, everything at the beginning you said about turning discussion into an argument is quite true.

[@moleman7861]

The style reminds me of frosty the snow man 90's cartoon

[@andrewsmith4581]

I feel like the phrase "you do you" is often used to justify any act. There could be a murderer and some people would be like "Well to him, murdering is okay. Who are we to judge? You do you." That was just an extreme example to make a point. I don't really think people would go that far Lol

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

people all condescendingly saying "you do you" as if theyre okay with you having your opinion but they clearly are not is like legit one of my biggest pet peeves like one time i said that i thought kirby games sucked and one guy was like "yeah, youre wrong but you do you"

[@thevioletbee5879]

You do you as long as it isn't actively harming those around you.

[@matti.8465]

@@thevioletbee5879 What if the person's opinion is based on something that is wrong? Should i tell them why is wrong or do what Arlo said and respectfuly disagree, leading nowhere.

[@thatoneguyyouknow9953]

It's a fucking video game art style that does not compare to murder you fucking walnut

[@thevioletbee5879]

@@matti.8465 You can argue, but they have the right to share it.

[@bread8159]

This is the internet. We dont do opinions here

[@cantbehelped]

Imagine walking into gamestop and seeing Link's Awakening right next to Breath of the Wild, both $60

[@sebastiantaller3965]

While I like the style of the remake on its own, I do feel that creators really missed out on this old school cartoon aesthetic, that Zelda games around that time had going for them (which is beautifully captured in the remade intro for Awakening). I do appreciate all of the visual designs of Zelda games, and how they seemingly never really had unified style, but at the same time, I would really love a Zelda game, original or remake, that emulates those ilustrations in Link to the Past, Oracle games and Link's awakening.

[@Frenagon]

I really liked the Watchmen movie :'(

[@Faygris]

Me too. It was great!

[@ScarletImp]

@Francisco Aceves-- That's cool! He's not saying don't like it because he doesn't like it. That was the point of his speech earlier -- it's OK to not like things others might like, or to like things others might hate. What's NOT cool is invalidating the person and making them feel like shit because they dare to like that thing.

[@Openreality]

All I got out of that movie was damn Malin Ackerman was really hot. Other than that it sucked.

[@Ray03595]

@@ScarletImp Whether you think that is okay or not is in fact an opinion though. So why are you acting like the thought police now, hmmm?

[@ursquidicuss8964]

To anyone trying to comment first: blue shell

[@krush333]

But them "first" folks have stars and mega horns

[@ursquidicuss8964]

@@krush333 Two racers have used boos and have stolen both items and there remains no protection.

[@kevinf4433]

*spiny

[@steel1906]

They get to a random block, and get a mushroom boost out of the way

[@michaelmitchell6089]

After watching the whole video, the first second makes me laugh even harder

[@Kekoapono]

I personally adore the plastic toy art style of this remake. It brings me back to my childhood joys of playing with toys and creating my own Legend of Zelda adventures. Also, I have a good feeling Nintendo's going to surprise us with a few unexpected twists to make it an extra special remake.

[@JoshJepson]

You do you, boo.

[@Naffuhs]

oh wow hi

[@CyclonSilver]

I didn't watch the video yet(I'm doing it once I'm done writing, I swear), but that graphic style is the exact same as the photographs you could collect in the original, which, as photographs, were actual depictions of what the characters looked like. So they're being true to the source material in a legitimately cool way, and as a result, while I'm not all that fond of it, I think it was a completely justified choice. Edit: Actually, the photographs were introduced in the DX version, but eh, I think the point still stands.

[@star_toast]

CyclonSilver But not really tho because the actual reason that the game looked like that is because it was on a handheld.

[@UnicornStorm]

@@star_toast right. And since limitation creates art, it makes sense to evolve on that art instead of creating a totally new art, not that the latter would be worse. Mario's mustache was born of graphical limitations, but I'm glad they stuck with it instead of dropping the mustache as soon as they were able to better render a face onscreen.

[@CyclonSilver]

@@star_toast On the photos? I don't think so, since they're drawings(granted, 8 bit ones, but still) they could have gone with a much more realistic style, which is what they did for the intro, incidentally. And interestingly, the new intro reflects that too. To some extent it could have been limitations still, since more realistic pictures would take more space, but it seems fair to assume they had some wiggle room and went for that style in spite of that.

[@seanhannan5415]

@@CyclonSilver Looking at the photos in the game I can see that, they did have a cartoony feel to them and the photograph element of Link's Awakening wasn't added to the DX version which was on the game boy color in December 1998, just one month after Ocarina of Time. Not sure if Ocarina of Time started the trend of Zelda games should look and be serious because one later another zelda game comes out with serious opening but interlaced with cartoony picture shots during Link's going kind of shows that Nintendo was still experimenting, or if it should be A Link to The Past that defines seriousness of a Zelda game from story than so much art style then yeah we can't really get mad at the style. I do see an issue with the plasticy look of the switch version because like the video mentioned it's novelty is of running out. If the game has picture moments like added to gbc because of the game boy printer just instead send them to your Nintendo account or something of the sort then maybe a third art style would be seen in game, and I get people don't like chibis but to me looking at the high quality art style they went for the opening similar to older versions but DX version after photos that are cartoony I see a combination of those two styles for the switch and don't know if chibi is the right word for cutesy cartoon style that kind of tries and draws elements from the opening. Or since they added the photos to show off the game boy printer maybe they add some new feature in the game to show of the switch. The only thing we know is the game will be released this year and it will probably gets some amiibo.... There is literally an Animal Village in the game...AN ANIMAL VILLAGE!!!! Sorry for yelling, but imagine (this is dumb I don't care) you tap the Mabel Amiibo to the switch go the new vacant house in animal village new folks are always "renting then mysteriously disappearing after" and you talk to Mabel and she offers to stich a new design e.g. plaid with green like her apron (or change to other options not sure if you make your own designs or not though), or maybe if you tap in K.K. Slider then he will offer to play Ballad of The WindFish on his guitar allowing you to walk around with Marin in more parts of the game (though if you enter a dungeon or tap in a new amiibo then she might comment on how she should get back to the village. Ok I got waaay off topic. TL;DR I get where their inspiration came from, but I don't like the toy look but chances a third art style is included as well as Switch marketable added features to the game.

[@CyclonSilver]

​@@seanhannan5415 It bears mentioning that to a lot of people, Awakening DX is the definitive edition of that game, since it only added to the original(afaik), though it's true that photographs were mainly in for the printer, as you pointed out. I just don't think it really takes away from their significance in terms of legacy, as many of us can remember collecting them for fun. They may have been included for questionable reasons, but they were still well integrated within the game and made for a legitimately cool sidequest. Also just to be clear I'm not saying no other art style could have worked better, I just think copying the photographs is a pretty neat idea. And I wouldn't hold my breath for a third art style, personally, but we'll see.

[@ranosian1135]

Looking back at this, I think it was made to look like this to fit the story - it's a dream world

[@ZeldaUniverseTV]

Honestly, the graphics are cute! It may not be super highly extremely detailed like people would normally expect. When Nintendo does curve balls like this, its a delight! Just takes some getting used to when you see the finer details they do with these remakes. That said, I hope we get some actual anime style cutscenes like the trailer we saw!

[@SJPace1776]

The big thing that Nintendo did to botch the Winder Waker reveal was showing that Ocarina render at Space World. Everyone was so pumped to see that Link. That eventually did happen at E3 when Twilight Princess was revealed which ranks among the biggest gaming moments I've experienced in my life.

[@0_Cardboard_0]

3:10 BEGONE, THOUGHT!

[@tamsinsandrielle]

Thank you for this video! Thanks for your time and your work :)

[@user-hd5fn2kk8g]

Thanks for uploading so frequently

[@enskje]

One thing I missed you talking about is how people give unwanted hate towards a game because they don't like it. Saying the new Zelda is bad because of the art style is just plain wrong, saying you don't like it is just.

[@paulfritz3552]

Yeah that's the thing. When some people say they dislike something, they act like that thing is utter garbage that needs to be thrown away. They get extremely insulting which is why a lot of people get defensive. But like Arlo said, there is a lot that does the reverse.

[@MrServantRider]

4:49 Arlo: "Not naming names here!" Also Arlo('s editor???): Puts pictures of tweets with names. EDIT: Apparently they're fake tweets.

[@LittleLionRawr]

Yeah... _facepalm_

[@amazingtoaster9606]

Pretty sure those were just made up tweets

[@whoanelly8403]

@@amazingtoaster9606 Yeah, either that, or the names were probably altered

[@bensatt4324]

those weren't real tweets, they were made up for the video

[@ronaldramsey7736]

Thank you for making videos. I appreciate your idea's for games and oddly now apply them to life.

[@sonnitude]

I’m actually ok with the art style mainly for the reason of “It’s a dream, it doesn’t have to look real” and I’m willing to give the game a chance.

[@ImThatSami]

HOOGY SPOOKY!!!!!! (I can't come to any event you said but typing that looked like fun)

[@metalgearman242]

I thought this was a really well worded video. Arlo for president. 2020. Let’s remind people what compassion is

[@dannyalfonso7241]

Trump 2020 babyyyy

[@JSchaffer214]

Really? I thought it was his worst video thus far. He came off very condescending and hypocritical at times. I got the feeling he's one of the one's taking things a bit too personal.

[@metalgearman242]

T. Riley Roo I felt that way at 1st too. But I felt towards the end he was coming from a really good place, as this is a family oriented channel, listening and being respectful when having a discussion is a great lesson for young interneters

[@trceb]

Lol could you imagine a puppet getting up on stage... oh wait.

[@weiker2103]

Just seems like he is advocating for arguing against the opposing viewpoint in the beginning of the video. He's saying that you can't oppose opinions at all, and doesn't believe there are any criticisms.

[@kittmouri7098]

MINISH CAP 2!!!!!!!!!!! Yes! THAT is what the world needs, now! I look forward to seeing your video on this. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@zavellart]

The art style for this looks so amazing, and makes me want to play it even more.

[@ihatestairs9034]

I’m not a big fan of the art style for Zelda games, but it would be absolutely PERFECT for a new Earthbound game.

[@tiqosc1809]

mother 3 in that art style

[@TadIGuess]

"Not naming names here" Proceeds to show the names Huh

[@alejandrofinol5709]

Im pretty sure those tweets are fake.

[@dtothee8730]

@@alejandrofinol5709 Maybe. But then why put names on it. It's confusing. I rarely use twitter so I thought the same thing.

[@KanesTheName]

They are indeed fake tweets. Hyperbolic goofy reconstructions, if you will. - kane the editor

[@ssayonshan]

@@dtothee8730 I found them kinda obviously fake, for comedic effect

[@davemarx7856]

This is a nice conversation I like arlos comment section

[@68dtrazz]

I love everything about the art style, I have been waiting for a Zelda game that looks like this forever!

[@Thequotequotequoteq]

Really appreciate the use of Faron Woods in the video. Takes me wayyy back.

[@patrickb1502]

I give this review a 8 rocks out of 10 rocks. Not enough rocks, but the one time they appeared was amazing and completely raised this video’s rock rating.

[@ohwowitsthatguy9154]

Breath of the Wild has very pretty rocks.

[@whippie3650]

“You are NOT the thought police” Yea well I’m the THOT police

[@anthonywestover5326]

Whippie 36 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😝😝😝😅😜 💃🏻👮🏻‍♂️💃🏻👮🏻‍♀️💃🏻👮🏻‍♂️

[@KuruttaKoibito]

Nice

[@realIanIANian]

Link's Awakening takes place in a dream, and the "different" art style compliments that perfectly. It feels like you're in an unfimiliar world, as it should.

[@Adonteon21]

I just wish they would of taken a page from Alundra for the dream. This doesn't look unfamiliar to me, it just looks fake. Eh, I'll just replay the original.

[@blootfu7171]

When that observatory music came on, man oh man!

[@salmence100]

THANK YOUU holy moly, I hate that sharing an opinion is treated as an invitation for personal insults. I just dont like the art style, regardless of why they used it. Also seeing the art at the beginning of the trailer made me get my hopes wayyyyy up

[@Trefender1]

It's good if people challenge another's opinion, but insulting a person over it is just wrong. I hope that you don't have to deal with that every time.

[@RyuuSix]

Idem for the last sentence. I thought they were gonna do a hand drawn Zelda game.

[@Navarchil]

Yeah, liking or disliking a design choice is NOT synonymous with understanding the reasoning behind it. The reasoning gives us perspective, but it's the face value that ultimately matters to me. I would personally love the art style if were less plastic-looking and more stylized with cell shading. The toy-like concept is really interesting, but right now the shiny rendering makes the environment look kind of barren.

[@samyargo9752]

Sounds like something who is consistently called out for being petty would say.

[@LordGriebenschmalz]

Same here. Look at the Zelda Indie game "Tunic" they have a similar artstyle, but It fits way better

[@puckie643]

Arlo, bless you. This is the video both parts of the argument needed.

[@spicypeppers7773]

Take a shot for Everytime Arlo says "opinion"

[@aworldwithoutzinc3828]

Not all opinions are equally valuable. We all have different levels and areas of expertise. My opinion on car maintenance is worthless as I am not a mechanic and know next to nothing about cars, but I have an educational and professional experience as a musician, my opinion on matters musical is much more well informed and valuable. Music, like gaming, is a subjective medium but I’d suggest to you that while someone who knows nothing about music/gaming may well have a right to their opinion (making it technically valid) that opinion worth less than that of a trained and studied musician/gamer who has dedicated their life to analysis and thoughtful criticism of their medium. You should be able to defend your opinion and it’s thru critique and analysis of informed opinions that we expand our understanding of complicated issues. Ad hominem arguments are counter productive, and obviously people will like what they like, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no purpose to argument or debate over fundamentally subjective topics.......of course that’s just my opinion.....I could be wrong

[@ccclennon97]

I appreciate this comment I was going to write something similar! Do you believe there to be some sort of objective truth in seemingly subjective fields such as art?

[@aworldwithoutzinc3828]

Chris Cisneros hard to say. It definitely seems that way when you discuss things like Shakespeare, Beethoven, or any number of things deemed high watermarks of human achievement. By many seemingly objective standards a game like BOTW is a good game. Anyone trying to argue that it is a bad game and poorly designed would have a hard time making that argument, and the same would be true if you were to argue that Jimi Hendrix was a shitty guitar player, for example. It can be hard to disaggregate ones personal preferences from analysis which makes the whole enterprise of evaluating works in an objective medium fraught with peril. Ultimately I’m tempted to say that whether or not objective beauty exists doesn’t really matter, and that for conversation’s sake we can act as tho it does and arrive at a more or less a consensus on these matters through informed analysis.

[@ccclennon97]

Wyatt Best I like that! Without accepting the idea of an objective beauty then discussing such matters just seems to devolve into “well its my opinion” which halts all interesting conversation imo. Thanks for your well thought out reply man 🙏 hope you are well!

[@Linktober04]

I don't dislike the artstyle, not gonna lie. But putting a 2d game where assets are placed on tiles into a 3d looking game is offputting for me in any game. Eg. Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire.

[@henrygutierrez3243]

Love ur pfp

[@hallarious506]

Why?

[@Linktober04]

@@henrygutierrez3243 okay

[@Linktober04]

thanks!

[@zacke.1286]

@Grand Admiral Thrawn with a grid system. Which was their point.

[@civiridian7540]

Arlo: You're not a mind reader, don't assume things about people just because they do something you disagree with. Also Arlo: Doing that means you're immature and probably don't have confidence in your opinions.

[@civiridian7540]

This is somewhat hyperbolic but the sentiment holds up. There's a hypocrisy in the text of what you're saying here, and it cheapens your point.

[@KaueBR89]

@@civiridian7540 yeah, I thought that too.

[@Nay089]

That’s exactly what I got from this video too

[@dillonkoester5530]

Yeah, he should of phrased it better. I think he was trying to say "If you attack other people's opinions and not respecfully disagree then you're immature." But I think he should have focused viewpoints more on the context of link's awakening and not as life as a whole, because I could find examples of people being wrong, and it being necessary to call them out on it.

[@GoopyGum]

Well, you are going down a paradoxical road that will never get to where anyone wants. He was just trying to help people understand that it is okay to dislike something and not get angry at people who like it or vis versa.

[@MattHalpain]

great video Arlo, thank you for your videos.

[@bolincair]

You've widened my perspective today arlo thank you