rhett deciding to come back for link, park his car, and walk until he saw link again is some soulmate level shit. they’re meant to be in each other’s lives, damn.
@conechiwa74 жыл бұрын
Makes sense now why he can stand his chewing and stuff now!? Lol jest
@NikholaRichter4 жыл бұрын
Right?! Gave me goosebumps, the image of that whole “scene” is straight out of a Nicholas Sparks book
@daliasaravia14434 жыл бұрын
This is so true 😭 I love their friendship
@clarabellen4 жыл бұрын
Also quite dramatic, he's obviously always had the flair xD
@urgayandkeklikesit18084 жыл бұрын
i was on the floor laughing at that part
@larinmcmullen83244 жыл бұрын
16 year old Link, crying, walking down the road not knowing if he's going to step in something because the tears are continuously filling his eyes. That got me a little. I'm so glad Rhett came walking over that horizon to meet him. Link is my fav.
@camille2134 жыл бұрын
@Larin You know that tells how much Rhett loved Link, and probably looked up to him. But...he realized by link telling him was how much Link trusted Rhett. Damn what a spiritual connection between the two!
@srslyheidi4 жыл бұрын
i honestly started crying just imagining that happening. they're both so precious
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite4 жыл бұрын
That got me too. That was such a vivid story.
@riacharda4 жыл бұрын
Things could've been worse. I know two people from my former church that both lost their virginity and the girl got pregnant... out of wedlock. Sure they got chastised, but after the child was born, they started talking about "How children are a blessing to people's lives".
@cierrablue4 жыл бұрын
I heard that for the first time on Monday. It was such a powerful story that it stayed with me all week. Had to hear it again.
@cyndithomas4174 жыл бұрын
I don't think Rhett confiding his doubts to Link converted him, I think it gave him permission to not hate himself for feeling like an impostor.
@traumaannellama4 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for that. My husband was my Rhett.
@cholieandresa3 жыл бұрын
Yes all of this
@joycepacheco29733 жыл бұрын
Yep
@cremebrulee47593 жыл бұрын
Yes. I think Link struggled and suffered for a long time without knowing why. I think Rhett helped him to understand the reason for his struggle. If it's a struggle, it's not the right church for you.
@cremebrulee47593 жыл бұрын
@@traumaannellama how wonderful!
@whatiwasgoingtosay4 жыл бұрын
Link describes that scene with Rhett leaving him on the side of the road and coming back to meet him so vividly. You can tell how important that moment was for him.
@vtgchanelswan4 жыл бұрын
whatiwasgoingtosay i feel so bad for young link, that was a very sad story and i'm glad rhett forgave him
@fress_kaa22754 жыл бұрын
That moment was legit pivotal in his journey when rhett came back. The fact that they could journey on through questioning their faith together without judgement is honestly christlike.
@bluz18642 жыл бұрын
That moment is their whole friendship In nutshell. They'll never always be in agreement but their friendship matters more. I personally still don't know if I believe in God but if there's really a loving God, that moment is what that God would proud of. I'm so happy I have my own Rhett even though I live in the East now and they live in the South - doesn't matter. I talk to them at least twice a ween.
@collinharris48482 жыл бұрын
It almost seems fake with how perfect it is. It'd be one of those movie scenes that just destroys the audience.
@Urbansaucee Жыл бұрын
@@collinharris4848 so many perfect scenes like that happen and ppl question it but if it was negative ppl would cling on to it and believe it isn’t that an amazing philosophy that we as people subconsciously harbor
@lexigirl7144 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart to hear that Link constantly felt like he wasn’t good enough
@theinvisibleme41044 жыл бұрын
That was his problem God doesn't want you to be the best he just wants you to try
@animebrains68594 жыл бұрын
Cults do that to you
@jakobdaniel21104 жыл бұрын
ANIME brains I don’t think you know what a cult is
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt4 жыл бұрын
You can only succeed with the Holy spirit
@peterstewart93764 жыл бұрын
God doesn’t want more from you. He wants more FOR you ❤️✝️
@hollymiller82264 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been jealous of any person’s romantic, but I’m desperately jealous of Rhett and Link’s friendship. It’s amazing how they have grown up and experienced life together. Few people in the world will ever be so lucky.
@emilyroseayres843 жыл бұрын
It is really incredible to witness such a solid, life long friendship.
@justinbridgez3 жыл бұрын
That is soo true. And some come close. Have glimpses. Idk if that worse. Or better than nothing at all. One friend. Actual two but mainly one. Comes to mind. I was always ...hmm.. how do i say. Have Bromances? And I’ve never felt something as strong as that. This part I shouldn’t say. I made a great comment and about to ruin it. Okay so this comedian always says something like. I’m sexually attracted to women. But I fall in love with men. Friends. It’s a joke but. The word love (IN THIS ANALOGY) doesn’t mean what you think. It’s more like. Such a chemistry. Finish sentences. Can speak without speaking. Humans are WILD.
@justinbridgez3 жыл бұрын
That friend. Was a smart link. Like me. But I had a lot of rhett-isms that led me down a weird path but things are wild. Still have many chapters and the things are a changing.
@djshadowsix76713 жыл бұрын
@@emilyroseayres84 knock it OFF
@nab2673 жыл бұрын
They even prayed together
@bobatitty3 жыл бұрын
"They think I'm clamping my eyes shut because I'm having such a meaningful experience, but I'm clamping my eyes shut because I can't find anything." i can barely articulate how much this and the whole train of thought about feeling phony resonates with me, i'm glad that video popped up on my fyp lol
@Shelsight3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I had the same experience multiple times before I left the church...
@AlecsApple Жыл бұрын
@@Shelsightomg me too.. i tot at first somethings wrong with me .. y are all the people surrounding me is on fire with God but im not.. and for a long time i tried to rekindle it but it didn’t
@Sibsibs19894 жыл бұрын
Rhett telling Link to get out the car. That moment killed me. Not for either in particular, but for both. The impossible standard that you were obliged to hold each other to. That could well have created an incredibly toxic friendship. Rhett coming back was an act of personal moral conviction and speaks to his character. Much in the same way as Link telling Rhett in order to respect his friend and allow him to hear first hand. A beautiful friendship. I am so glad you both overcame the negativity of your own personal walk with faith. You are family and it is to be admired hugely x
@kimaboe4 жыл бұрын
A great example that morality not only exists outside of religion, but that it often conflicts directly with most interpretations of religious morality.
@thomasmurphy47294 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing about Rhetts character, it made me think back to when he talked about his inherent pursuit of justice in the last episode of EB.
@urgayandkeklikesit18084 жыл бұрын
i died.... im sorry😂😂
@WyattCayer4 жыл бұрын
I almost cried, it was so good!
@shaunbraley22494 жыл бұрын
I’m happy these guys took a journey. But don’t believe that everyone who walks that same journey leaves the faith. Francis Collins, whom Rhett spoke highly of his intelligence, maintained his faith. Take the journey but give fair weight to ideas. People almost always let the loudest voices be the ones they want to hear.
@KPid10t Жыл бұрын
When Link said: "I can’t believe that me being open, and sincere, and as loving as possible, and as honest as possible is disqualifying me from receiving God’s love. I can’t accept that.” He articulated exactly how I've felt for the last few years. Especially growing up in the Bible Belt, being a believer, and feeling the need to hide the fact that I’m gay for over 20 years because of the guilt I felt. It’s hard because I’ve felt like I’ve always had to have these introspections and spiritual deconstructions alone. I’m glad they shared their stories here.
@michaelmoreno962710 ай бұрын
I'll pray for you. You will be fine if you are genuinely sorry for how you are. It's okay people and God still love you
@nilsonrodriguez713510 ай бұрын
@@michaelmoreno9627why would he be sorry for anything?
@michaelmoreno962710 ай бұрын
@@nilsonrodriguez7135 I'm talking about repenting. No he can love as much as he wants. He can condone certain things if he wants. As long as he is not engaging I the sin he is more than ready for the pearly. Buymt even if he were to engage in it...he just needs to pray, ask for forgiveness. Genuinely know he is commiting sin and trying to get out of it. Then he is still welcomed into the pearly gates
@BWGmedia9 ай бұрын
@@michaelmoreno9627there’s nothing wrong w being gay and your prayers mean nothing if they have no actual impact on reality. Again why serve a god that would punish someone like link for being honest, inquisitive and kind?
@QuincyJones4207 ай бұрын
@@michaelmoreno9627go repent for being a jackass
@kaitlin78644 жыл бұрын
No offense but like......I cannot believe that Link underage drank and Rhett didn't 😂😂
@Jackson-du4hy4 жыл бұрын
Kaitlin it’s the hair
@pjw83774 жыл бұрын
I can because we have "met" their dad's.
@hooliogoolio44464 жыл бұрын
No offense to who?
@Rexaurus4 жыл бұрын
I kinda can. Link would be a lot easier to persuade and Rhett can get really into things. Rhett is one of the people that, as long as its their world, you can make them believe anything.
@hooliogoolio44464 жыл бұрын
@@Rexaurus This is adorable
@kaitlin78644 жыл бұрын
Picturing Link sobbing and walking all by himself actually shatters my heart. Give that baby a hug dammit.
@gracesara66114 жыл бұрын
RIGHT i was sad when he said him and rhett didn’t even hug afterward it seems like he really needed it 🥺🥺🥺
@blackclouds9094 жыл бұрын
It hurts my heart for sure
@Kaylee_203 жыл бұрын
Ngl, i shed a few tears
@UTU492 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear Rhett's memories and perspective regarding that event.
@ghostlytavern1292 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Rhett gave him a huge one
@exsdanowatheist2 жыл бұрын
I kept a prayer journal when I was younger, 99% of it was me apologizing to God for how horrible I was.
@TMSokoya Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭
@venusbb9 Жыл бұрын
you are not alone, religious guilt is so intense.
@razoredge6130 Жыл бұрын
Did you know him?
@ashleyleonard94 Жыл бұрын
Yes me too! All my prayers were about how guilty I was. I never felt good about myself
@wolftitan11 ай бұрын
@@ashleyleonard94 It took me 30 years to grow out of religion, then I truly grew up.
@JennRighter4 жыл бұрын
I have NEVER enjoyed a podcast as much as these four episodes. It's not only fascinating, but so deeply personal, and very moving. Thank you both so much for this.
@deakel184 жыл бұрын
Jenn Righter agree
@cheesecakelasagna4 жыл бұрын
The only other podcast that made feel things (the frustration kind) is Baited! LMAO.
@nutterbutter90694 жыл бұрын
Jenn Righter likewise
@speckwii4 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in another podcast kind of like this is the Liturgists Podcast! The lost and found episodes are incredible stories about deconstruction.
@jackmehoffe96624 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@carmelita18804 жыл бұрын
“hold on. i can accept... everybody.” made me tear up. love you always, mr. neal💜
@StannaUS4 жыл бұрын
He has such a good soul, doesn't he? 😁
@allisonsmith56054 жыл бұрын
Be Informed ah, yes, everyone knows that atheists are the assholes simply for not believing in an unproven religious ideology.
@braddahg4 жыл бұрын
Yes, unconditionally. That's literally the best feeling I got too when I left the evangelicalism.
@collinj.55304 жыл бұрын
@@braddahg Be prepared to accept Hitler's actions as well. Without God, morals don't exist in any objective sense.
@obsessedwithcups80374 жыл бұрын
Collin Jarvis I am pretty confident in these two men’s morals. Morality comes from your surroundings and experiences.
@HappyNBoy4 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that this episode got fewer listens than Rhett's... Link's voyage, although less driven by curiosity than Rhett's, comes from more of a place of empathy. Rhett's journey is recognizable as the same kind of journey that so many philosophical intellectual angry internet atheists engage in. Rhett moderates in a way that I admire, but his anger is emblematic of that sort of intellectual-centric 'deconstruction'... Link's 'deconstruction' is so much more emotionally intelligent. There's so much care taken to understand how his faith affected him emotionally. His compassion and identity being so tied up in his faith and that ultimately not being a good fit for the amount of compassion he had... It's a story that I don't see as much, and I think a very valuable one.
@sofiaabm4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it's because when you search "rhett and link religion" on youtube only rhetts video comes up (at least that's what happened with me)
@kirstenlund89764 жыл бұрын
I watched them back to back because of the differences in their processes
@jjoycesantana4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Great insight
@johancarlberg15304 жыл бұрын
M
@cheesenips88113 жыл бұрын
rhett talks about having a moment of anger but to reduce his deconstruction all the way down to "internet atheism" is an incredible oversimplification
@maberu09304 жыл бұрын
"I don't wanna disappoint people." Only a few minutes in and Link hits home.
@YaBoiShining4 жыл бұрын
The worry of disappointing people is relatable? No way
@absolving4 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoiShining ha. I thought the same thing.
@MrE_4 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoiShining lol if disappointment had an image in the dictionary, it would be a picture of me
@irrelevantideology96404 жыл бұрын
That's the one.
@stormygaenicke79814 жыл бұрын
L
@haleywang58454 жыл бұрын
"I did listen to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but I felt bad about it." My absolute favorite Link quote of all time. I need tshirts. I need mugs. I need posters.
@MegaSkyBirds4 жыл бұрын
me too! i felt that HARD! lol
@officialgoogleyoutube4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much it costs to license the words "Red Hot Chili Peppers."
@barltoncanks4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha yes! I laughed so hard because the same thing happened to me growing up 😅
@rzawistowski334 жыл бұрын
@@officialgoogleyoutube I don't think you have to with lyrics. Just the recordings of the artist.
@alejajm16663 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the Red Hot Chilli Peppers? I grew up Catholic so I had no idea they could be something to feel bad about
@TommyFlanagan666 Жыл бұрын
I never tire of hearing peoples’ deconstruction stories. Breaking free of religion is the most important thing I’ve done in my life.
@fruitgum961911 ай бұрын
I didn't grow up in a religious household and never was religious myself, but I'm always fascinated by these stories. I can only imagine what it's like! it makes me happy for people to find themselves and what they truly believe in :)
@JeffreyBoles11 ай бұрын
@@fruitgum9619I find it fascinating to hear people's experiences who never grew up religious! I grew up very religious in Alabama with a Christian preacher for a father, who taught me to think critically. It's funny because him teaching me to think critically is ultimately what led to me losing my faith. Even from a non literal perspective, the bible getting the order in which the earth and the sun were created is pretty damning. As Rhett and Link both said, everything started to make so much more sense once I entertained the idea of the bible being written by humans and humans alone. I just wish my education had been influenced by reality at an earlier age. I feel I would be ahead where I currently am intellectually and socially had that been the case, as I feel like I am just starting to see the worls for what it is for the first time.
@brittoncain509011 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyBolesI haven't heard that take on the order of creation in Genesis before, can I ask why you feel that way?
@janedock312610 ай бұрын
It's really is comforting in all the chaos I've experienced in realizing everything I believed was not real.
@roems63969 ай бұрын
@@brittoncain5090 Because we know the order in which things appeared in our universe and in earth. The Bible gets many of them wrong. It says light came before the sun. It says the moon is a second light source, when it’s just a rock reflecting the single light source. It gets the order in which animals appeared incorrect. I could go on and on about the inaccuracies of the Bible.
@ashtoncavanagh16224 жыл бұрын
I can't believe people are so upset that Rhett and link basically came out as open minded, reasonable, intelligent deep people that actually think for themselves. Anyone who is actually mad at them for this needs to take a long deep look at yourself and your priorities in life.
@ConsciousRobot4 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@thapack454 жыл бұрын
@Ashton Cavanagh The irony in saying that believing or holding to a certain set of ideals is "open minded, reasonable, intelligent" and an indication of being a "deep thinker" while simultaneously implying that people who don't agree with you are close minded, unreasonable, unintelligent and shallow thinking is baffling. The emptiness in the faux social movement of being forward thinking on full display.
@rocinadelossantos34794 жыл бұрын
thapack45 no saying someone is open minded doesn’t mean anyone who doesn’t agree with them isn’t open minded. Ones characteristics do not correlate with the other if you took it that way it’s your own projections
@mattferris34374 жыл бұрын
@@thapack45 Your comment has no substance. The ramblings of a fool with a thesaurus out to make an argument
@metalmayfantasy4 жыл бұрын
There are indeed very few things that cause an uproar amongst people: Politics and religion.
@Annalovesautumn4 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting that Link felt uncomfortable and assumed it was his own fault, whereas Rhett felt discomfort and essentially decided that the system was the problem 😂
@345_ash4 жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣
@zkipa3 жыл бұрын
realized, not decided
@YTWgamer2 жыл бұрын
Yeah more of a realization than a decision. The church is one of the largest problems in the world.
@trickytreyperfected14822 жыл бұрын
@@YTWgamer I just hope something is done about it at some point
@BrookeKatherine.2 жыл бұрын
I’d relate more with Link in that sense lol. I always think everyone is my fault, or that I must be not doing enough. To see people around you that are so passionate about God, and their relationship, saying they can feel him.. it’s hard to sit next to that person and wonder why you don’t feel that way. It always felt like it was because something I did ya know aha.
@luciferianjesuslover94532 жыл бұрын
1:08:00 Link showed some MAJOR CAJONES with this one. “ I wasn’t going to teach them the fear version that I got.” Mad respect, Link. ✊
@mariodiaz2911 Жыл бұрын
Its cojones not cajones. But indeed, fantastic father he is
@luciferianjesuslover9453 Жыл бұрын
@@mariodiaz2911 cojones** excuse me
@Maga2024lul Жыл бұрын
Fear is the beginning of wisdom and not fearing is the beginning of foolishness. You're nothing but a mocker. And it takes no balls to never speak truth.
@msjsq1966 Жыл бұрын
@@mariodiaz2911 It's "it's" not "its".
@irenee8894 жыл бұрын
The story about you getting drunk and the conversation with Rhett in the car was so powerful. What a beautiful relationship you had and have. Imagine what would've happened if he hadn't turned back
@melslatt4 жыл бұрын
This and the fact that Link was the only person Rhett could openly discuss his spiritual questions with, who would discuss without judgement - those really made me appreciate how special their friendship really is.
@Iissafaith4 жыл бұрын
Link. This was so poignant and personal. You’re such a lovely and sensitive man, and so unnecessarily tough on yourself. I’m glad that, in your 40s, you’re able to really find the truly good man you are. And, your story says an incredible amount about your friend Rhett, who will, no matter where you guys are in your lives, always come up over that hill in the road to meet and support you. Lifelong friends, indeed.
@jenntrump67234 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful comment
@bluesilvahalo35764 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Beautifully put 👏
@MegaHamilto4 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the whole story is that he was able to love himself much more, and regardless of what you believe, if you love yourself and truly love others, I'm glad for you.
@creepitsurreal2 жыл бұрын
These episodes so perfectly encapsulate the differences in these two men that make them so strong. Rhett approaching this from a mindful perspective, and Link's from a heartfelt perspective. I got two different things from watching each episode. Rhett's was like listening to an information podcast about logic and critical thinking, and Link's was like going to therapy about feeling the doubt and the cognitive dissonance and really reflecting inward and looking at yourself face-to-face. Both are special kinds of vulnerability and they balance each other out so beautifully. This is real love between these two people. They really allowed each other the space to grow.
@RedKincaid5 ай бұрын
I'm listening to both for the first time and I agree completly. It's really something amazing to hear two completly different but entirely valid methods to reach the same conclusion
@Snaffdude4 жыл бұрын
I felt that Rhetts story last week painted the more logical side of his spiritual deconstruction whereas Links seemed to centre around his emotions and that hit me in my core. The mental image of Link walking around bawling his eyes out got to me. As someone who has never had any faith in a belief system I found that hearing about the guilt that came with it bothered me, I know going forward I'm going to think more about some of the difficulties my friends with faith must endure from time to time. But with that, these 4 parts have been an incredible listen and I'm looking forward to further episodes. Love as always guys
@monkwallace4 жыл бұрын
Nate Jones Goes to show they are two very different people in a very connected path.
@cheesecakelasagna4 жыл бұрын
That's why they're perfect for each other, they fill in each other's gaps.
@diabl2master4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I noted that difference as well. The stories complement each other well.
@leiasart46104 жыл бұрын
This shows their mbti types so well. Rhett being a thinking type, Link a feeling type.
@swimmswimmm6684 жыл бұрын
Nate Jones i will say that people of faith have this wonderful abundance of hope because of our Savior
@chevon19204 жыл бұрын
I wanted Rhett to explain what he was thinking when he drove off and left link.
@littleredhairedgirlsteph39224 жыл бұрын
I want to know what made him walk back.
@DoorknobHead4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@chevon19204 жыл бұрын
@@littleredhairedgirlsteph3922 yeah, that too and what happened to the car.
@littleredhairedgirlsteph39224 жыл бұрын
@@chevon1920, don't you think they walked back to the car and drove on?
@chevon19204 жыл бұрын
@@littleredhairedgirlsteph3922 but why did Rhett walk back to link instead of driving.
@Glacier_Nester4 жыл бұрын
Link's deconstruction hit basically every note that Rhett's didn't for me. That moment of "I'll keep goin to church to humor my family, but I just don't.. connect, anymore", driven on in no small part because of the way LGBTQ+ folks are treated by the church, finding yourself knowing there's something out there but you're not sure what, wanting to support the world with your love and compassion. This series has been deeply relatable to me, and I'm so happy that the both of you felt you could come forward and talk about it (and do it in such a coherent and well-considered way) is remarkably heartening. Keep up the great work, you two.
@gpeddino4 жыл бұрын
The image of Rhett kicking Link out of his car, then going back on foot to meet him is so powerful. I could see it in my mind like a movie scene.
@morgankennedy61934 жыл бұрын
You should listen to them talk about it on Philip DeFranco's podcast. Rhett was basically trying to make it into a movie scene.
@bungakrst4 жыл бұрын
@@morgankennedy6193 can you give me the timestamp?
@morgankennedy61934 жыл бұрын
@@bungakrst Sure! The part where they start discussing the reaction to them coming out as agnostics starts at around 44:40 and Philip brings up Link's first time drinking at around 1:16:00. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3Taopydr9uboJo
@morgankennedy61934 жыл бұрын
@@bungakrst But I also highly recommend the whole thing. They touch on some things that they didn't cover in their four videos.
@bungakrst4 жыл бұрын
@@morgankennedy6193 you're so kind! thanks ^^
@ZombieBenderReturns4 жыл бұрын
“Not wanting to disappoint” that really gets me.
@hannahmckay28474 жыл бұрын
Same, I think it still echoes in my head even though I'm way past that
@EmmaLise5064 жыл бұрын
I listened to the episode but can you tell me where it was?
@sallyaverbuch55414 жыл бұрын
@@EmmaLise506 it's at 3:46 x
@kawawangkowboy95663 жыл бұрын
"Most people... are going to interact with our stories in whatever way makes sense according to their predetermined world view" : Rhett sums up life and humanity. It's like the unified field theory of sentient ego.
@aimeenunez17134 жыл бұрын
“.. I just don’t think that God, if God exist or however God exits, I just can’t believe that me being open and sincere, as loving as possible and as honest as possible is disqualifying me from receiving Gods love” ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@shannonr3404 жыл бұрын
Everyone dont deserve Gods love and grace. That why He send His Son to die for our sin. Gods loves all of no matter what
@BehindTheGreenEyes4 жыл бұрын
@@shannonr340 Amen, amen!
@strykerdawn14 жыл бұрын
God defines love though not us.
@BehindTheGreenEyes4 жыл бұрын
@@strykerdawn1 Yes, however, we should also love like God.
@strykerdawn14 жыл бұрын
@@BehindTheGreenEyes I'm speaking with the implied (you) not you personality.
@amandaalred4 жыл бұрын
I am most impressed at the way that Rhett listens. I need to take a page from his book. I tend to feel the need in conversations to relate what the person is saying to something that has happened to me and although it's not my intention, I end up interrupting while trying to relate. I definitely will remember how he listens so intently the next time i'm in a serious conversation. LOVE YOU GUYS!
@dustypink48024 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing, unintentionally, and your comment has made me remember this about myself and remind myself that I can be better at just listening. Love to you x
@tlucier19734 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this up!
@cristallewis48424 жыл бұрын
I tend to do the same. And I remind myself to try and stop, but when I’m in a conversation with someone and I can relate I have this excitement and need to share with them. I guess it’s a way for me to build a connection with them.
@joegallicchio264 жыл бұрын
Rhett is a great listener, as you said. Rhett is amazing
@RetroGamingSweden4 жыл бұрын
First time I reply to a comment on this channel (or the Mythical one) due to relatability! This is my biggest issue. And my god is it hard to handle / fix! I am not alone.. Thanks!
@babyvmuatutorials68393 жыл бұрын
Link explaining how he felt as if he was going against his friends on the church’s views about the LGBTQ+ community, that almost made me sob. He’s a pure person. I wish all people would think the way him and rhett do
@JoshuaGreyJensen Жыл бұрын
That was my first MAJOR crack in my testimony. I knew that gay people deserved the same right as all of "God's other children" Mormonism treats LGBT+ members horribly.
@ricecake3215 Жыл бұрын
It’s saddening how justified it felt being in the church. It was judgment from a “loving” lens. Stepping out of it, I’m noticing how hateful the conversation around people outside of the church was. It’s heartbreaking.
@Muhluri9 ай бұрын
@@ricecake3215there's no hate like Christian love
@TA-dg5ve4 жыл бұрын
This series of four episodes regarding "The Missing Years" has been illuminating. Thank you guys for the many years of helping me find something to smile or laugh about. I hope that you are able to continue doing the things that you do that provide a bit laughter to your many viewers and listeners.
@sandybrown94104 жыл бұрын
This sounds like goodbye.
@WilhelmWilder4 жыл бұрын
@@sandybrown9410 yeah it does 😫
@les55034 жыл бұрын
As a long-time mythical beast, I can say your two spiritual deconstruction Ear Biscuits have been the most compelling and important videos I've ever seen from you guys. Both your stories broke my heart but not because I'm sad for you. It's because I relate so hard to making a decision to leave a belief system that was not in line with the kind of person I really am. Your experiences have helped me process my own experience in a new way. Thank you. Thank you.
@haileyzachry62954 жыл бұрын
Laura Shelton I can agree that they sort of put into words what I haven’t been able to and I honestly feel better hearing their stories because I better understand my own experience.
@grum71403 жыл бұрын
I relate to Link's story a lot. When I was religious I never felt good enough, but at the same time I thought I was better then non believers. It was a very toxic way of thinking and I feel much better now then I ever did when I was religious
@allisonpinkall5773 жыл бұрын
SAME
@rachelgillum28692 жыл бұрын
I relate ♥️
@GlorifiedGremlin2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like it's far more your own fault than the religions fault in that scenario tho lol you were judgemental towards both others AND yourself, which is on you because most religions tell you not to do exactly that
@kurageh1me2 жыл бұрын
@@GlorifiedGremlin depends on the way you're taught your religion, who you're and around and what you learn from others. It's very common for Christians to believe they're better than non-believers. It's not some unheard of thing.
@Kate090902 жыл бұрын
@@GlorifiedGremlin No, religions do not tell you to do the opposite. Neither do religious leaders. Some do, and good for them. But, as uncomfortable as this may make you, there is toxicity (and A LOT OF IT) in religion.
@reaganrambles19514 жыл бұрын
Even John Green shouted out how amazing these 4 episodes have been. Thank you for sharing your journey
@victoriachopstick77654 жыл бұрын
yo!!! where did he end up shouting it out?
@BeatlesACDCFourEver4 жыл бұрын
victoria chopstick I heard him shout it out on Dear Hank and John, the podcast he does with his brother
@rockdealer14 жыл бұрын
@@BeatlesACDCFourEver Thank you.
@Anju12723 жыл бұрын
@@BeatlesACDCFourEver do you remember the episode he shouts it out on?
@TheFrugalMombot3 жыл бұрын
@@elliotmaginn4153 the author of The Fault in our Stars. He and his brother also started an education series on KZbin and have an awesome channel where they talk to one another but somehow include all of us along the way. They’re awesome
@jra39784 жыл бұрын
The fact that Rhett and Links wives were understanding and kept with it, even though they didnt get into that part, its easy to see that they supported their husbands change and stuck with them. It can be hard when the person you marry changes, you question whether or not its going to work anymore. I would love to hear more about how they accepted this change and how they worked it out as a couple and a family.
@brianmattingly94814 жыл бұрын
Definitely would like to hear more on that
@BlueGeen4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I haven’t watched their episode where they revisit these episodes yet, but I’ve seen a lot of comments about how people would love to see their wives “sides of the story”, so to say.
@annika_abitbol4 жыл бұрын
For sure
@sukismeg5893 жыл бұрын
One thing people don't think about often is you're SUPPOSED to change as a person as you live your life, experience things, meet people, change jobs ect. Life is all about changing so when you marry someone it's super important to marry someone both with the understanding that neither of you are static beings and that you will work to change together in the same direction.
@mrssallybrown6193 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. I am a science teacher and over the past 3 or 4 years, my husband has become somewhat of a “Truther” AND a flat-earther. He openly ridicules science and asks me all kinds of idiotic smug questions. Some days I don’t know if I can handle it...but I love him unconditionally and he has told me repeatedly that he loves me even if I never accept the crazy conspiracy theories he is into.
@keithrobertwells96054 жыл бұрын
I work at a restaurant. And the guy working in the back cooking the food was listening to your podcast and I asked him about what he was listening to and he told me. So I looked you up when I got home. And I listen to both the conversion stories. And I realized I had seen both of you on KZbin before but you were talking about different subjects. And I realized my son was the reason I had seen y’all before because he was watching you.Anyway I just thought you might like to hear what turned me on to hearing your thoughts on religion and spirituality. And it’s helping me to get to know my friend at work a little better too now that I sort of see what he listens to and I will have topics of discussion with him. I feel like I’m part of your community now.
@alltimelowbr14 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the family!
@damienprince14624 жыл бұрын
Wellcome! :D
@itschristinamoon3 жыл бұрын
How wholesome! That's really nice you are also taking effort to get to know your friend at work better and have Rhett and Link to talk about. Welcome, new Mythical Beast!
@jonathanjaynes.3 жыл бұрын
God loves you and your coworker buddy
@trickytreyperfected14822 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjaynes. I don't mean to be the party pooper, but this sort of reply on an otherwise unrelated comment is super strange considering the topic matter of the video. But you know what, I suppose it's the sentiment that counts either way.
@antonellapellegrino83114 жыл бұрын
Somehow, clicking the like button once pales in comparison to what I feel about this series of biscuits. Consider the ‘like’ clicked infinitely .
@brady_B4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@maryrust33104 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a non denomination church. It helped after going thru what you are going thru.
@brady_B4 жыл бұрын
@@maryrust3310 yeah I went to one for many years. This particular one only helped so much...and did damage in other ways.
@jyup58504 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@elenaforgiarini53564 жыл бұрын
I have commented this on Rhett’s video already but again, I would love to hear Christy and Jessie’s sides of this story if they were open to that. I think this would be a very worthy opportunity to have them on the podcast for the first time. I absolutely loved Christy’s candor on Science Mike’s Pod
@hanners48954 жыл бұрын
What episode was Christy on Science Mike?
@indigogott85544 жыл бұрын
I agree! They may also not be ready for that yet though
@DelcoTrash4 жыл бұрын
They may not want to publicly talk about it like Rhett and Link. It's an incredibly private thing and they are not entertainment show hosts....
@PentaxSource4 жыл бұрын
@@BehindTheGreenEyes Yes thanks i was looking for this comment!
@user-sx1fg7lc3c2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I could like link anymore than I already did. Or Rhett. These two men are true role models for how to live a life of love, maturity and compassion... and true to one's self. Hearing their stories has given me a whole new level of love and respect for them.
@GrubbyJim4 жыл бұрын
This series has been devastating and beautiful, thank you so much for feeling like you could finally visit this part of your lives on EB. Link; the fact that you struggled so sincerely with treatment of LGBTQ+ people just speaks to the fact that you're inherently kind and accepting, only further highlighting how wonderful and conscientious you are (but we already knew that!) It's so hard to hear you speak about disappointing people and feeling like you weren't good enough. To know you had such a negative view of yourself when you were simply trying to navigate your way through life is heartbreaking. While I've never personally prayed, when you spoke about praying together it not only hit home how hard this journey has been for you both, but how close your bond is. To have sat and been so vulnerable with one another is beautiful, and the support you provide for each other is lovely to see. I hope this has been cathartic for you both, as I can't imagine how anxious you must've felt. Just know the MB's are behind you and we appreciate how challenging this must have been for you. Thank you.
@meghancastleman75744 жыл бұрын
Very well said and I agree wholeheartedly!
@indigogott85544 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said, made me tear up a little reading this
@ConsiderMeCat4 жыл бұрын
"I had this nagging sense of being hollow"...that hit me. I'm currently in a church leadership role for music & it's honestly been a struggle to lead people in songs that theologically cause me internal distress because I struggle to believe in what it's teaching. At this point, the only words I find most authentic to sing are pleas to help my lack of belief. And, of course, this isn't the first time in my life I've had cognitive dissonance in my faith journey (my deconstruction has been more of a life-long continual renovation), yet it certainly makes it all the more difficult to deconstruct when holding a professional position. Super thankful songwriting has been a pivotal part of my deconstruction though. Most things are more questions than anything, but perhaps that's a good place to be rather than stating answers I'm unsure of. Whenever I sing freely about the fact I don't know, that brick wall seems to be broken & I can feel again. Thank you for sharing your story, Link. What a comfort it is to know I'm not alone in this wrestling.
@paigechristy20534 жыл бұрын
Catlin Walton I liked the end of this. Helped me clarify something for myself.
@traegermiles4 жыл бұрын
Good luck (for lack of a better phrase) in your journey. You get to decide who you are and what you believe.
@WanderingWaystrel4 жыл бұрын
You should check out the Clergy Project. It’s a group specifically for clergymen who find themselves in your exact position of not believing anymore but being unable to leave because their livelihoods depend on it
@gio21424 жыл бұрын
I’m in a similar place here. I think no matter what you believe in, you should be willing to ask yourself the hard questions and kinda let the answers find you and be at peace in the meantime. I think whoever is out there ...this divine being, is more merciful than we think and is not afraid of our questions. I’m still learning and I feel like my faith is being reconstructed and that’s not a bad thing.
@Chase21W4 жыл бұрын
Catlin I love the verse from Jeremiah 29:13 “You will seek me, and find me, when you seek me with all of your heart” God is there and Loves and cares for you.
@miriam42354 жыл бұрын
What Link said 'I want to be as loving as I can.' Combined with what Rhett said: 'Living a life devoted to other's.' If everybody would live along those guidelines, Everithing in this world would be ok. ♥
@sullysins77124 жыл бұрын
I hope you guys are never scared to talk about any topic. It's refreshing and insightful to hear two guys so open and honest about this and im sure the mythical beasts feel the same way, Thank you.
@IcelanderUSer4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe how well these guys remember their youth. I can’t remember much of anything. Just bits and pieces.
@emmanueljusino62173 жыл бұрын
Journals helps memory
@seaoftranquility72283 жыл бұрын
No drugs and alcohol might have a little to do with it.
@emmanueljusino62173 жыл бұрын
@@seaoftranquility7228 drug and alcohol are very bad for memory 🤡
@ivoryskullz3 жыл бұрын
I can only speak for myself but i remember entire conversations from YEARS ago and it's almost like a film playing in my head. I remember things so vivid as if i'm re-living them. I feel like it's the same for them. The way they describe the "scene" etc. is just perfect and you really feel like you're in that "scene" as well.
@_lil_lil3 жыл бұрын
@@seaoftranquility7228 also trauma... or ADHD lol.
@eastcoastswiftie Жыл бұрын
56:06 idk why but Link slightly messing up the acronym but still having Q on the end made me so happy… to see that even though they were raised in a church where that wasn’t okay, they’ve always had it in their hearts to accept and love everyone. Just made me giggle, doesn’t matter what the acronym is, they get the point hahaha
@jadedpotato1574 Жыл бұрын
i laughed, and then i cried
@Fossil08 Жыл бұрын
@@jadedpotato1574I laughed, then cried, then pissed myself, then shat myself, then went into a cave, then became a cave dweller, then lost my vision, then developed echolocation, then started hunting bats. Very eye opening
@minuscaseus Жыл бұрын
@@Fossil08my brother in Christ, you went blind. How is that eye opening?
@Delta0001-y Жыл бұрын
@@minuscaseusopens the mind’s eyes
@vickiedavie83064 жыл бұрын
I long ago concluded that just because someone else's walk/journey with God doesn't look like yours doesn't mean it isn't genuine and valid.
@PoeLemic4 жыл бұрын
It's sad to me that people still even try to follow the Myths from the Bronze Age. I used to be very religious, but like Rhett, I deconverted. And, now, I can't believe I ever believed in such malarkey, but you don't see the BS -- when you were born & raised in it. But, now, I am ashamed to have ever called it "Truth and Wisdom".
@poelemic36423 жыл бұрын
@@B2Roland Wow, a really good question, that you seldom see with all the mental dumbness on here. You got me on that one. I've always looked at it, being in the cage; not, as being outside the box, looking in. Well, I think what Christianity's benefit from other religions is that they have a centerpiece of their belief system and that they have formed it around the life, identity, stories, and sayings of one individual. And, to that, then they added a life-story to a certain time & place, that none of us can ever verify with no evidence from that time period, what-so-ever. That's what I think C has going for it, above other religions. And, the Leader is also a "Good Guy" -- if you get what I mean. Meek, simple, kind, cares about everyone, wants people to do better, speaks & cares about old & widows & children. Just all-around good guy. But, the bad stuff is glossed over, of course, so it is not as memorable (or focused on) as the good things. [Is this what you mean?]
@lmao49823 жыл бұрын
@@poelemic3642 sounds like buddhism xd
@YTWgamer2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean it is valid either.
@oliviareyes78384 жыл бұрын
“I don’t interact in a healthy way at this point” is a really important self awareness moment
@cheesecakelasagna4 жыл бұрын
timestamp please?
@oliviareyes78384 жыл бұрын
CheesecakeLasagna around 1:15:36 and 1:16:33
@cheesecakelasagna4 жыл бұрын
Olivia Reyes You're quick! Thank you so much!
@jshud311 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for your honesty... I'm 53 and deconstructing right now after growing up in the church with a dad and grandfather who were both pastors. But my dad always brought up questions to make us think and he was always willing to finish his statements with, "...but I could be wrong." I appreciate you guys are willing to do this, to help others... even if it's three years later. Just know you're sincerity and honesty are still helping people and offering people hope!
@kaleb91359 ай бұрын
I really like how your dad finished his statements being open minded.. What lead to your deconstruction, if you don’t mind me asking.
@NukeCaulfield4 жыл бұрын
Dang. No one should have to feel bad about listening to the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
@Koooo44 жыл бұрын
Well, a lil bad ;) But not for religious reasons lol
@19RaxR914 жыл бұрын
I do, but its because I cant stand Kiedis. :D
@cecel66434 жыл бұрын
@@19RaxR91 why?
@19RaxR914 жыл бұрын
@@cecel6643 he is a self important douche, based on some of the things Ive seen and heard about him.
@cecel66434 жыл бұрын
@@19RaxR91 Like what? Sorry, just genuinely curious lol
@taylorvalentine33584 жыл бұрын
I can’t get through these episodes without crying. I’m LGBT, and my story is so similar to Rhett’s deconstruction. I was very involved in the church, and I knew that I could not be myself in the space that I was, and it was so heartbreaking. As soon as I came out, I was rejected by the church. It was so painful, and the way that they describe their feelings about this while being in the church just hit me in such a vulnerable spot. I have so much respect for someone who realizes and understands that it’s not okay to preach complete love and acceptance without including the LGBTQ community. That’s just one aspect of this that I really connect with, not even including everything else. Wow is all I have to say. Wow. I needed this series so very much.
@chavaa59494 жыл бұрын
XY ZW wtf does this have to do with anything 😂
@chavaa59494 жыл бұрын
XY ZW taylor was talking about rejection from church, even though it’s supposed to be about loving everyone. Dont be so insensitive
@dahcargo4 жыл бұрын
Stand naked in front of a mirror and be honest about what you see, it's not a difficult thing to do. Unfortunately, so many want to be a victim.
@jonathanfischer97374 жыл бұрын
You're right. God loves and accepts us all the same❤️ much love to you
@kirbyteeth4 жыл бұрын
@XY ZW children is not a gender. neither are siblings. those are not sexualities.
@nataliemccall72914 жыл бұрын
So moving. Link's account is so heart based. So impressive that he can stay in his feelings for the whole time. Astute emotional intelligence.
@scrapperk83994 жыл бұрын
“I’m hopeful that I can be...hopeful.” Indeed.
@sm35604 жыл бұрын
Your compassion towards the LGBTQ community and your genuine love and care for your friends is so beautiful and powerful. I have so much admiration for people who can realize injustices towards groups that they do not belong to, because it’s easy to turn a blind eye if it doesn’t affect you. But you felt such genuine empathy for your beloved friends. Much respect
@carlitosway471 Жыл бұрын
Unlike the current LGBT.
@peekabooicancu3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for sharing. I'm a Christian, and it was an interesting experience watching this, resisting my impulses to want to switch off or be fearful. The reality is that I genuinely want to love all people, and I hope my life is a reflection of that, so I can understand and appreciate the struggles with the institution/theology appearing to contradict this hope. I hope that in the Church we would continue to shift and have more spaces where we wrestle these ideas without condemnation. The sense I get from the both of you is that you're apprehensive of the response of others, which is concerning. Understandable, but you should be able to share your views and questions without being met with such negativity and pushback in return. A lot of people, both in and out of the church have these questions. So we need to talk about it. Thank you for sharing!
@c3ru1ean412 жыл бұрын
you’re very brave
@loribriggs47832 жыл бұрын
There are no perfect Christians. I know I'm one. Be kind to each over and show compassion. We don't walk in others shoes or their life. We just don't know what they are going through.
@BenjiThomaz Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you feel this way! And good for you to be brave enough to continue watching the video! I hope everything is going well for you! 😊 All I have to say, is continue searching and questioning everything through the lens of truth and love. While I may have come to a different conclusion, it was all due to my wanting to do and believe what was true, and because I had a love for people and a love for the truth. My love for people made me want truth, even though truth can hurt sometimes. Continue following truth and love!
@valaraz4 жыл бұрын
I find it remarkable that the comment section on all of these videos has been so positive. This is a touchy subject to many and as I went through my own process everyone was keen to give some version of their own helpful advice. Not growing up on deep South made it easier. In the end I'm glad you've found peace with yourselves and I'm thankful of this series and of sharing your journeys with us.
@ThatShyGuyMatt4 жыл бұрын
I must be seeing different comments because all I'm saying so far as people bashing religion. And praising them for not being religious anymore. Toxic
@carmelita18804 жыл бұрын
valaraz aw you jinxed it😅
@camille2134 жыл бұрын
@SonOfAKing Don't exactly see that anyone is bashing religion. I read everyone understanding. Which I feel is wonderful. Usually when religion comes up there is arguing. And that is sad. Understand?
@valaraz4 жыл бұрын
SonOfAKing I guess you may have read more comments than I did but I scrolled down again and didn't see any comments I'd find toxic. But then again that's also down to personal opinions and world views. The way I see it religion is everyone's personal choice and preference so debating over religion or lack of it will never result in anything but more disagreement and I personally feel this video aims to set a different tone to a journey many are going through.
@birgitwest1434 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. I think part of it is that the audience has never been particularly religious and the ones who are are here accidentally, not because they identify with Rhett and Link's spirituality. I'm a person of faith who has also been de/reconstruction for some time (similar time frame actually) and for the same reasons Rhett & Link both described. But I was surprised to find out at the beginning of this series that these two had that background, very similar to me actually. I have come to so love them because of how real and fun they are, so in a way it's like when you get to know someone for who they are - and then when they share something like that, it really doesn't matter, because you care about them. Religion has never been the focus of their show.
@chrislynstewart65144 жыл бұрын
I love when Link says “I had a nagging sense of being hollow” or something of that nature. That summed up so much of my spiritual journey. Thank you guys for sharing these stories
@josiahgittman12682 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that Rhett and Link were former Christians who fell out of the faith, and I remember being kinda disappointed in them. These people who I admired and kinda looked up to turned out to be “bitter ex-believers”. But now after going through a very similar experience to them and listening to both Rhett and Link’s story, I relate to them and respect them so much. I enjoy their content and hope they continue on their path of self discovery. To anyone who is struggling with their faith, just know that what you’re going through is normal. If you come across something that doesn’t sit right with you, don’t just push the inconvenient inconsistency to the back of your mind, search it out, think about it, and talk about it with someone you can trust. Pursue truth over comfort, and stay skeptical.
@petermiller14754 жыл бұрын
I literally just like 20 seconds ago finished Rhetts video and was so bummed I was going to have to wait for Links. I’m so glad to hear your stories because I can relate so much to them in my own journey with my father being a pastor and growing up in the church, now 32 and struggling with where I sit with my beliefs. Thank you so much for this. It’s been super enlightening listening to you both.
@whychoooseausername47634 жыл бұрын
@@savage101. It was actually available last week in podcast form
@urgayandkeklikesit18084 жыл бұрын
i still did not finish any but i watched a 5HOUR markiplier vid
@WellProgrammedBot4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 9 enneagram, 30 year old Iraq war vet with PTSD who used to self medicate with disassociatives, grew up at an evangelical church, lost my faith similarly to Rhett, and my wife of 8 years DID leave a few weeks after telling her I didn't believe anymore (and because I took LSD after that helped break my addiction). My best friend of 18 years who grew up in church with me told me that we needed to take a break from our relationship after finding out about me taking LSD. Haven't heard from him since and that was two years ago. Despite all that, I am in an AMAZING place now. I feel awake for the first time in my life. When Link was talking about the story where Rhett kicked him out of the car and drove off was crushing to hear. I'm so glad he came back for you Link. I'm so thankful for your honesty this series. It's helped so many of us more than you'll ever hear about. And this shit is online now so it's going to help people for years to come. Good on you both.
@angelbegin4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're doing better and wish you a wonderful life. Thank you for sharing your story too.
@christiancano5064 жыл бұрын
Psychedelics have been proven time and time again to help with ptsd, addiction, and suicidal thoughts and I just wish it wasn't so taboo. Thanks to acid I never had more confidence in my life and this is coming from someone who lived with a mid frequent anxiety for about 4 years, things got worse and I had nothing to lose and it's changed my life ever since. Would not be here today if it weren't for that trip
@1kings18apologetics64 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about that man. I'd say be careful with the chems though if you can avoid them. VA helping you at all?
@staceysearle46004 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service and story!
@VanessaHBIC4 жыл бұрын
You deserve happiness and may it find you and you have it always. Thank you for your service
@flabershlap1014 жыл бұрын
Link's story about drinking and lying literally broke me. their friendship is so beautiful and I'm about to cry.
@tambalini11604 жыл бұрын
Words can't express how much I love these 2 guys. They are SO REAL! They bring tears to my eyes, joy to my heart, love to my life, and help renew my faith in humanity. I LOVE YOU TWO! Keep doing your thing.
@kolhurricane73254 жыл бұрын
Tambalini same, i get emotional just thinking about how much they both mean to me and how much they have positively impacted my life
@yourmajesty35694 жыл бұрын
This thing they have, their lifetime of friendship, being raised in the faith, their "brother's keeper" attitude, is incredible. And so rare. It's beautiful to see and hear.
@christeenn.3 жыл бұрын
I want to convey how less alone this makes me feel as a southern baptist preachers daughter who is seeing more and more issues with my church as Ive grown up
@susansanellihammack14032 жыл бұрын
You're not alone.
@debbiemcvey3417 Жыл бұрын
Like what?
@christeenn. Жыл бұрын
@@debbiemcvey3417 to sum up years worth of deconstruction in a few words, I would say the “hate the sin, not the sinner.” Mentality that runs rampant in white evangelical Christian churches. It’s often times used as a guilt free way to validate hateful, harmful biases.
@humanthefinite830411 ай бұрын
@hannahdivergant best of luck to you. It's not easy. Especially living in a religious community.
@wisdomfromgeorge17044 жыл бұрын
No matter what our age or what are gender.. I think we're all just a little bit in love with Link!
@redstone-kg3ne4 жыл бұрын
mmmmmm idk about that one
@leilasparks83424 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@anjaraj4 жыл бұрын
I'm in love with Rhett😅
@wisdomfromgeorge17044 жыл бұрын
@@anjaraj I think we love both of us precious guys XOXO It's because we watch them every day.. Rhett is a wonderful wonderful man that's for damn sure XOXO have a wonderful mythical day!
@wisdomfromgeorge17044 жыл бұрын
@@redstone-kg3ne Maybe you're not in love but I bet you do love the fellas XOXO
@shakeaboot4 жыл бұрын
It honestly hit me real deep when Link mentioned that LGBT issues were so important to him. As someone who is LGBT it is so easy to think that a lot of people who aren't LGBT themselves don't care or are content with how we are being treated. I can't put words to the feelings I felt when Link was talking about it, but it made me cry for a few minutes. Thank you for caring Link, it really means a lot to know that people do care about us and how we feel.
@mender7224 жыл бұрын
I'm gay. I de-converted. It's complicated. Last Sunday I was in the audience when Talk Heathen was live. Very cool experience.
@ClintonAllenAnderson4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how anyone who is anywhere on the LGBT etc spectrum, (I suppose an argument could be made that literally everyone is on that scale somewhere.... But I think that's a different conversation eh ) could possibly follow a religion when so much of its history, so much of its dogma, is directly, aggressively, fatally, against them.........
@zaelitude4 жыл бұрын
Parsing my little brother's homosexuality and lack of rights within the church and society was one of the breaking points for me. There are straight people out there that care. People are people and they should all have the same rights and treatment. :D
@ConsciousRobot4 жыл бұрын
Link and Rhett are both fantastic human beings
@r-robertson-d4 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Its one thing to be like "I think gay people should have rights but its still wrong to be gay" and an entirely different thing to leave a church in part because you fundamentally disagree with how that community is treating LGBTQ folks.
@janetmitchell445211 ай бұрын
Gentlemen, there is nothing to apologize for. All of us travel our own path in life. I was part of a church for 40 years. A vol. For 10 and an employee for 20 years. When the church became too involved in telling folks how to vote and how to feel about the lgbtq community I left and never looked back. Peace to you both.
@yellostallion11 ай бұрын
Good for you. My take is that strong identification will make one unconsciously blind. If one identifies oneself as a Christian, a man, a woman, an American, a Texan, a Republican, a Democrat, a dad a mom etc then one will built wall to protect one's identity. Consciously and unconsciously. If you are going to take on an identity, you might as well take the largest one which is life itself, or well being of life for all life. Or inclusiveness. Smaller identities are needed for communication and orderly but it's very boxed in and blocks one's expansion to inclusiveness.
@DaTravBoo4 жыл бұрын
I just want to love more. That's exactly how I feel. After losing religion, I feel that I love people a lot more than I use to. Love is my journey.
@taylorvalentine33584 жыл бұрын
This is such a great perspective and I’m going to adopt it myself. I love this.
@SantinoCadiz4 жыл бұрын
Travis Taylor the word “ religion” is an infantile way of describing a relationship with the Creator, which is something you clearly never had.
@DaTravBoo4 жыл бұрын
You know this because you clearly know me. Haha.
@obsessive_arch4 жыл бұрын
The fact that one of Link's biggest struggles with the church was that they didn't accept LGBT people really meant a lot to me. I know how hard it must have been to accept that as part of your faith when some of your closest friends, like Stevie, are gay. I love how accepting both of you are of all types of people. Thank you for sharing!
@Zenkai2514 жыл бұрын
The Church welcomes all people, no matter what sins they have committed.
@thegeneral14694 жыл бұрын
!!!! Stevie is gay!?!?! 😩
@purplecatonbroadway4 жыл бұрын
This was a huge struggle for me as well, I lost my best friend many years ago because he was gay, and we endlessly debated about it. I never truly forgave myself for that. He was a lovely person, and I loved him so much, but because of what i was indoctrinated into, I couldn't accept him and love him the way I should have. That was my turning point spiritually
@Zenkai2514 жыл бұрын
ALL churches welcome ALL people (except maybe the fringe ones like Westboro). Everyone has sinned. If churches didn't let sinners in, no one would be able to enter a church.
@RutherfordProject4 жыл бұрын
@@Zenkai251 sorry, but being gay is not a sin...
@KevinRodriguez-gd2jw3 жыл бұрын
Hearing Link talking about how they felt about the way the Church talks about LGBTQ+ people really made me love them even more. I’ve never felt more accepted by someone on the internet and it only took 1 sentance from them.
@meganelizabeth79734 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe that you two were meant to be in each other’s lives. If Rhett hadn’t come back for Link, I can only imagine how different everything would have been for them. That part of the story alone was super powerful. Love you guys, and thanks for talking about something that doesn’t get talked about enough. ❤️
@Jonnicom4 жыл бұрын
This has been the best set of podcasts I have ever, EVER, experienced, in my 27 years. I am so glad you guys talked about it.
@michaelabdoofficial4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Rhett and Link and their family’s are so close is such a testimony to their commitment to one another.
@cdfletcher94034 жыл бұрын
This conversation is so parallel with coming out. The struggle of living in a belief system about yourself that isn’t genuine to your path or health or growth. Love it.
@km-brn4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like Ear Biscuits in general in Link’s redemption arc. Watching GMM, I tend to like Rhett more and relate to him a bit better, but Ear Biscuits really gives Link the space he needs to talk all his stuff out.
@jjoycesantana Жыл бұрын
I sometimes watch this while studying, it’s so comforting. Link's experience is so real and accurate and sincere.
@divaglam924 жыл бұрын
I think y’all should make a movie about yalls friendship. All the good and bad stuff that happened over the years. I think it would be amazing. Just use different actors lol
@Chibbykins4 жыл бұрын
They want to get a Bleak Creek TV show made, and those characters are like a version of them. Should be good if it gets picked up.
@andytom914 жыл бұрын
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
@UTU492 жыл бұрын
Couldn't they play each other? Cuz that might be really fun.
@decveitch60444 жыл бұрын
Man.. I just wanna give Link the biggest hug right now and remind him on how brave he was and is. Parts of the story was extremely hard to listen to, like Rhett ordering Link out of his car, but came back to walk with him. My heart goes out to both of them and i hope they know and understand that they've built their own fantastic community, that gives hundreds of people purpose and meaning. #EarBiscuits
@justmonicarae69333 жыл бұрын
I am struggling to find my place in this world right now. I lost my husband to covid this past December, and I just joined a grief support group with a local church but the first meeting is tomorrow, and I CAN'T GO THROUGH WITH IT! All of the work in the workbook is about the relationship with God. I am between an agnostic and atheist. I waiver to and fro daily. I adore you both and my daughter suggested that I watch you guys. THANK YOU for taking my mind off things and keeping me smiling and thinking! I watch all of your shows! Much LOVE to you and yours!
@emmie30693 жыл бұрын
i’m so sorry you went through that. you’re amazing, you’re strong. don’t join the christian cult. even though they may seem to be full of love and community, they are the most judgmental group out there. there’s so much more love in the world than you can imagine. friends, family, even random strangers over the internet can be helpful. sending my love your way ❤️
@shanewilson79943 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear of your loss, and I hope during the months during this post you've been able to heal. And if you are still having issues grieving, and if you need a support network to help you out, look up grief beyond belief. It is a group dedicated to helping those without religion work through their grief of loss ones, and it is an amazing resource for those unfortunate times that we run into.
@suzanneparvey43464 жыл бұрын
Thank you Link and Rhett for sharing your personal faith journey with us. It took courage to share it. I am a person of faith that wishes you both love and peace in your lives. Yours is a very special friendship. I appreciate the gift of laughter you bring to the world.
@littleredhairedgirlsteph39224 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@caryulmer70634 жыл бұрын
Suzanne Parvey Well said!
@CCrispyyy4 жыл бұрын
These two videos has helped me understand you guys on a whole other level. It’s nice to have fun on GMM but I’m thoroughly enjoying the conversations going on over here.
@xrphoenix7194 Жыл бұрын
I think there's a really beautiful difference in the way Link and Rhett dealt with their disillusionment. Where Rhett's was primarily found in the logic of his faith, and Link's was more about his emotional connection to his faith. Both cared about the flipside, and it was fundamental to both of their changes in their spirituality, but at the core their change came from a different place. It shows how that kind of change can happen for different reasons for different people.
@Steadfish4 жыл бұрын
I always find so much more theological and moral value in a person's exit story from a belief system, than the belief systems provide themselves.
@anniebellelee4 жыл бұрын
same
@guthrie_the_wizard3 жыл бұрын
Valid
@Michael-hv5vm4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the strength of character to tell such a vulnerable story
@ConsciousRobot4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to think of a good way to express this sentiment in a short and sweet manner, but you nailed it. Well said.
@jonathanjaynes.3 жыл бұрын
God loves you
@Anasyub Жыл бұрын
interesting how links deconstruction is so heavily full of guilt while rhetts was about feeling uncomfortable about the teachings but they both essentially felt isolated in their own way
@212melc4 жыл бұрын
Whoo boy, I teared up at more than a few instances here. Thank you both for having the courage to open up about such a personal topic, and one that no doubt resonates with many of your fans. While it's clear that a lot of positivity came out of your experiences and engagement with the church community, it's painful to hear just how much unnecessary guilt, shame, worry and fear you went through as well. (Rhett, we're all so relieved teenage-you went back for your buddy!) I hope you've both found peace with your pasts and presents. Sending loving thoughts your way.
@smilesallround4 жыл бұрын
I listened to the audio version already and have been waiting eagerly for the video version. Thanks for being so open and honest guys. I love this series.
@voidremoved4 жыл бұрын
And Rhett's shirt didn't make you regret the decision to watch?
@ubernate860 Жыл бұрын
Speaking from experience, keeping your children sheltered from the true experiences of life will ONLY lead to them experimenting and learning in the hardest way possible
@michaelprobelski48664 жыл бұрын
I really want to say, this is how this should be done. Exactly how Rhett and Link did. None of us have the answers. We are all just trying to find our way. But the most important thing is for all of us to be kind to one another. To love each other. To love our differences. To truly be there for one another. That is what will make the world happy. To me hatred and violence and greed (where you put things above others and would do anything to have them) in any form is where the true sin is. Thank you guys for sharing all of this!
@megan12144 жыл бұрын
I love the way Link talked about how he doesn’t believe that being loving and accepting will disqualify him from receiving God’s love. That’s exactly the way I feel and I respect you so much for explaining it so eloquently ❤️❤️
@stephanier20254 жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel. It took me a long time to be peaceful with this feeling.
@melslatt4 жыл бұрын
It's something I've thought a lot about over the years - there are so many religions, so how can I believe in a god that would fault people for believing in the "wrong" system? Even though they lived their lives as good, loving, respectful, and responsible people? The only thing I am certain about is that I am certain about nothing.
@megan12144 жыл бұрын
melslatt Yes exactly!
@ASmith-jn7kf4 жыл бұрын
Humans don't know what being loving is, we have a messed up way of viewing love. We "love" people but leave them or throw them away when they are imperfect, we "love" people and lie to them, we "love" them by letting them do harmful things and not saying anything out of "love." If love is just this subjective thing, the being who created it has a right to have an ultimate standard so he does not see what you see as love. That's hateful. We treat the ones we love like enemies, doing harm to themselves yet we are looking the other way.
@buzzkrieger39134 жыл бұрын
Humans have a messed up view of love because they throw them away when imperfect? WTF does eternal torture in a fiery dungeon count as then? The ultimate in nonconsensual D/s S&M? FM what you write is stupendously messed up.
@strawberriesandcream32703 жыл бұрын
listening to this is like a dad telling you you're going to be okay, I can relate to Link's story and I admit I did cry a little bit
@dixierae60634 жыл бұрын
Who would have ever guessed as they we're feeling our mornings we're so much laughter and entertainment. Everything appeared to be so simple and light-hearted yet they both were going through such an enormous inner struggle. I've become a new subscriber and in the last few months have watched every episode from season 1 to the present. It is easier for Rhett to cover his feelings where link does not have the ability to hide anything. Bless his heart. I remember often watching episodes being concerned that link suffered from depression because so often I would just see an expression on his face of deep sadness. With that said I think it is clear that link does have personal struggles that are not related to his religious deconstruction. I have definitely noticed that in the last few Seasons that the darkness definitely has lifted and it's good to see. It's very hard not to want to take him and hold him and tell him that everything is going to be alright.
@abg1254 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, Link just breezes over it, but when said “I’ll only go on one date a month, and talk to her once a week” that hit home. I grew up in Southern Baptist home in SC and vividly remember my old man saying “boy...you’re seeing too much of THAT GIRL...you just talked to her yesterday etc” there was big emphasis of not getting “too comfortable” with a young partner lol
@michaelak67534 жыл бұрын
lol what? no limit on love if its the right person.. even if its the right person for just that time but you part ways later, its still nice
@annylynn15483 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with both of you!
@chelseagrace22433 жыл бұрын
My ex boyfriend took advice from his Mennonite boss who told him he visited me too much for someone he wasn’t sure he was going to marry... I was like what?
@thomaswilliamson6253 жыл бұрын
@@chelseagrace2243, If you stay apart and the feelings are still there then it is more likely to be a successful relationship.
@HeatherRuffniteowl4 жыл бұрын
I actually relate to Rhett,, I was called crazy for caring about the truth too much . Thank you both so much
@jonathanjaynes.3 жыл бұрын
God loves you
@Shelsight3 жыл бұрын
Same here. My parents weren’t religious, but respected my joining a youth group and becoming very devout... They only asked one thing - that if I ever asked questions of the church elders that I was told not to ask, or that I ever felt that what I was being told was not the truth - to question it in my mind, and openly to my group leader, or to them (my parents). By age 19-20 I had so many questions and was being told I was disruptive even asking those questions. My parents supported my leaving the church as readily as they supported me joining it, as both times it had been my own decision. I think how hard that must have been for Rhett & Link, being part of fully evangelical families... This series of podcasts has been beautiful in its articulation and honesty...
@shanewilson79943 жыл бұрын
same, my journey is a bit more along of Rhetts, but both have such a good story and I feel a lot of good has been done by them sharing because there are so many people in similar boats that feel lonely or scared, and knowing you aren't alone is important.
@_Panic4 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this. I grew up in an intensely religious household. I ended up rejecting religion when I became an adult due to my religious upbringing. Hearing you two sharing your state of beliefs is huge.
@omegasage7773 жыл бұрын
Going through the same thing. You're not alone
@guthrie_the_wizard3 жыл бұрын
I’m an atheist and secular humanist. You’re not alone.
@shimmyshazmart11303 жыл бұрын
I’m still halfway there. I’m still not financial independent, but once I get there, I will do it.
@TIM_GBR4 жыл бұрын
I meant to comment on both takes, but I find myself here and as I continue to listen as they finish I'll leave the most important thing I'd ever been told spiritually. "God didn't give anyone free will with the expectation they would follow another's teachings blindly". Honesty with yourself and continually trying to be the best person you can is far and away the most important thing you can do with your lives. Please for everyone, please keep being your mythical best. You're doing a great job so far.
@Puuuurrrr Жыл бұрын
Holy shit the part about Rhett abandoning Link is just... man I'm pretty sure they've unpacked and processed this between themselves but I'd love to know what Rhett feels about it after the fact that was pretty brutal
@patriciaschuller5096 Жыл бұрын
i can’t remember which deconstruction episode it was but Rhett mentioned how the whole situation with link getting out of his car, and Rhett coming back to him, was apart of Rhett’s plan that night to open links eyes, Rhett also mentioned that “i’m still mad at you for it, 16 year olds shouldn’t drink” (he said jokingly with a smile)
@Lady-Seashell-Bikini8 ай бұрын
Especially after Link was trying to open up and be honest about the mistake. I get that Rhett was a WAY different person back then, but it could have caused Link to hesitate about opening up about anything in the future. But they're ok now, so it was just another important moment on a pile of other important moments
@awakeandalive604 жыл бұрын
This may be an unpopular viewpoint here, reading the comments, but it makes me sad to hear that Link was constantly feeling like he was disappointing God. In my humble opinion, I don't believe you can disappoint God. The whole purpose of God is to love us no matter what we do. God doesn't need us to impress Him. The reason He has things laid out for us a certain way is specifically for us, because He loves us, not for us to impress Him by how closely we can follow in line. Everything, every rule, every law, every bit of wisdom from God is designed to protect us not only from each other but from ourselves. That being said, I respect Rhett and Link for being able to tell their stories and to be so vulnerable with us, and while I disagree with their theology, I genuinely love them and want the best for them. They obviously need to find that in their own ways.
@TurnerIntoAMommy4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to find the words to comment and I simply couldn't. This perfectly sums it up for me. While I do not agree with their theology either, I have enjoyed listening to these Ear Biscuits episodes...even though at times I had to stop and cry. I appreciate that they have been so open and honest and as thorough in explaining as they possibly could to get their spiritual journey out. God gave us free will and that's what they've exercised. I am also glad that they are not closed off to some epiphany, if you will. Again, I have truly enjoyed these Ear Biscuits and a deeper look into the lives of the people of internetainment. Thank you Rhett and Link for sharing your stories.
@calebhope23904 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but would you subject a family member to eternal torment and agony forever for doing certain things? such as not believing in you? No loving being, in my humble opinion, would ever do that, I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy, it seems to me like a way to get people to listen to you, "either you listen to what i teach you, or you can burn for all eternity and suffer the worst imaginable pain."
@THENEVERDEADIV4 жыл бұрын
@@calebhope2390 2 factors in this... that you wont hear in a church building.. but is 100% Biblical... 1 If GOD wants you to believe in HIM you will and there is nothing you can do about it... 2 GOD doesn't send a person to the lake of fire.. you send yourself...
@hawkxlr4 жыл бұрын
@@THENEVERDEADIV Damn, if God wants people to believe in him then they will. So I guess everyone else who doesn't believe are the people that God DOESN'T want to believe in him. What a moral monster this God must be
@awakeandalive604 жыл бұрын
@@hawkxlr I also don't believe God sends you anywhere. You make the choices for yourself, and He gives us innumerable opportunities to believe. If you choose not to believe, He grieves the absence of your presence with Him in the choice you made not to be with Him.