This TINY TV Costs $20,000 - Flanders Scientific XMP550

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@NikTek
@NikTek 9 ай бұрын
Me watching this on a 1080 LCD non-HDR Display: Ah yes, I can see the difference
@abdulkadiraminu262
@abdulkadiraminu262 9 ай бұрын
😂😂ikr. just kept watching
@AMabud-lv7hy
@AMabud-lv7hy 9 ай бұрын
The legend
@Nepoxification
@Nepoxification 9 ай бұрын
This guy is a goldmine of memeism
@Miliexy
@Miliexy 9 ай бұрын
Same, except I thought the expensive display looked way worse. Mario looking pink, the strawberries very weird color. 😂😂😂
@iftekharahmed7303
@iftekharahmed7303 9 ай бұрын
You're here 😅
@azured909
@azured909 9 ай бұрын
Tiny 55 inch TV, you just called me poor in tech language.
@oiiinah6021
@oiiinah6021 9 ай бұрын
Was going to say this, I thought my 23” monitors felt small let alone a 55” 😂
@GTRMclaren722
@GTRMclaren722 9 ай бұрын
For real, My biggest tv in the house is 55 😂
@headaega
@headaega 9 ай бұрын
When I read the words "tiny tv" i thought the video is about a 10 inch or smaller tv.
@andward1285
@andward1285 9 ай бұрын
He almost aways does that in every video, you will get used 🥲
@GregtheAwesomeNinja
@GregtheAwesomeNinja 9 ай бұрын
Who needs a bigger TV when you can install a go go gadget extendo mount
@matroixtv
@matroixtv 9 ай бұрын
Ok either shaved linus is AI or they are REALLY ahead with these videos schedule.
@JimParshall
@JimParshall 9 ай бұрын
I sold high end television for years and even been taught by Lucasfilm and certified in THX technologies, just gonna say this is one of the best done videos I have ever seen ever to show the differences and why such an expensive television is worth it. Excellent job folks you did absolutely stellar work here
@the_bridges
@the_bridges 9 ай бұрын
Yeah well what warrants it to be thousands more in cost
@alphabitserial
@alphabitserial 9 ай бұрын
@@the_bridgesThey mentioned this in the video, the largest factor in the cost is the absence of off-the-shelf chips. Instead they're using FPGAs.
@solkvist8668
@solkvist8668 9 ай бұрын
@@the_bridgesthey don’t cut any corners in production (not cost savings by using 3rd party components that are ultimately worse) and more importantly the target market is quite small, colorists in a professional setting. 20k for a color accurate monitor isn’t even that much more than the standard in these industries, if anything it’s right in line with a lot of professional grade equipment. Whether it’s a RED cinema camera (50k for a sensor), a hasselblad (20k sensor and used just for high detail studio photography), or whatever else it’s just a different kind of product. It isn’t for mass consumption because most of the benefits are irrelevant to most people. Color accuracy is great, but unless you are trained in the field/have a consumer product to directly compare it to a lot of people aren’t going to be able to tell. Same goes for speakers, headphones, monitors, camera lenses and sensors. TLDR: expensive because it’s all self built and not many people will buy it, meaning the cost has to be higher to ensure it can continue to exist.
@jaredliveson1764
@jaredliveson1764 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think this video shows “why such an expensive TV is worth it”
@alphabitserial
@alphabitserial 9 ай бұрын
​@@jaredliveson1764 On a consumer TV, even with all of the processing settings the manufacturer provides you turned off, the chips that decode and present the video are actually still doing some of their own and taking shortcuts wherever they can get away with it without negatively impacting the experience of actually watching media. The panels are also bright enough to display the vast majority of content, but not as bright as they could possibly be manufactured. These are cost-saving measures and the reason a consumer TV costs what it does. The Flanders display gives you the raw signal and the best panel they can muster. It's not for consumers, it's for the professionals who do a film's color grading during production. It allows them to really dial in the exact changes they're making with the highest degree of accuracy. It's similar to how an audio mastering engineer does all their work on studio-grade headphones for the mixing process, before testing the result on everything from AirPods to car speakers to a smartphone. It accomplishes this by forgoing the off-the-shelf chips from Mediatek, Samsung, LG, etc. and using FPGAs for everything. These integrated circuits are really expensive - because they can be reprogrammed as many times as you need. Flanders programs these to handle the same tasks as the off-the-shelf chips without the extra processing, and without having to fabricate their own custom chips.
@countbowl
@countbowl 9 ай бұрын
Guy in my team used to work for a company that made display port KVMs for studios, they were basically display and audio pipelines implemented on FPGA. the amount of work that goes on to NOT add ‘corrections’ and have ‘what you see is what you get’ is wild.
@loganhutchersonhutcherson4431
@loganhutchersonhutcherson4431 9 ай бұрын
I'm scared for the moment beard-less linus escapes hibernation... the end times are near
@joseramos2328
@joseramos2328 9 ай бұрын
The beard-less It's coming...
@maicogee3029
@maicogee3029 9 ай бұрын
Gets me every time... I'm afraid
@DeathPerMinute
@DeathPerMinute 9 ай бұрын
3:12
@batterypwrlow
@batterypwrlow 9 ай бұрын
Last few videos have had some unsettling, non scruffy segways to their sponsors.
@Triro
@Triro 9 ай бұрын
We should all be afraid. The end is near.
@SunnyZ
@SunnyZ 9 ай бұрын
6:12 "Dirt's not orange" Lives in Australia, looks out window towards dirt. Yup, it sure is orange, with a tinge of red too.
@Gatorade69
@Gatorade69 9 ай бұрын
Australia doesn't exist.
@randomjimmystuff9862
@randomjimmystuff9862 9 ай бұрын
Looks out window in UK to clay soil.... yup, dirt is orange
@LPR44
@LPR44 9 ай бұрын
Erm, you may be in Mars? /s But yeah, I can confirm clay is orange in Mexico too
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust 9 ай бұрын
your area is sponsored by LG
@carltonhealy9457
@carltonhealy9457 9 ай бұрын
Oklahoma, USA is the same, maybe a tinge redder.
@dealforbet8888
@dealforbet8888 9 ай бұрын
The attention to detail in this video is incredible, from the HDR display to the purposely dimmed website captures. Truly top-notch production!
@techkidwhiz
@techkidwhiz 9 ай бұрын
​@@bradhaines3142The Flanders scientific people were there... Doesn't get much more accurate than that.
@FAB1150
@FAB1150 9 ай бұрын
​@@bradhaines3142such as? They're steering a lot towards accuracy and they have been for a while now
@rileysimmons9886
@rileysimmons9886 9 ай бұрын
​@@techkidwhiz*biased - I wouldn't want to review a product with the manufacturer/marketer in the room lol
@stuart2642
@stuart2642 9 ай бұрын
​@@rileysimmons9886eh i mean this time its not like youre gonna buy a tv for 20k anyways
@jamesjamey8596
@jamesjamey8596 9 ай бұрын
​@@rileysimmons9886it's not the review of this product! It's a video to showcase cool tech. Nobody who is actually the target audience of this thing is going to make up their mind based on what linus has to say about it!!
@gh8447
@gh8447 9 ай бұрын
6:12 Linus: "Dirt's not orange!" Aussies: "You've never been to Australia have you mate?"
@oof4dayz
@oof4dayz 9 ай бұрын
Or Utah 😂
@Eratas1
@Eratas1 9 ай бұрын
In Kenya, everything is red.
@Lorenzo_G_C
@Lorenzo_G_C 9 ай бұрын
Or anywhere whit soil that has a lot of clay in it.
@DanielMelendrezPhD
@DanielMelendrezPhD 9 ай бұрын
Or Mexico, according to Hollywood 🙄
@GoodMortySmith
@GoodMortySmith 9 ай бұрын
Or North Carolina...
@ReinR
@ReinR 9 ай бұрын
I only just started watching this video and instantly noticed it was in HDR. Thank you LTT and keep up the good work!
@_GeekyDad_
@_GeekyDad_ 9 ай бұрын
Did anyone else panic and thought they had a dead pixel whenever Linus and Brandon are both on the screen?
@Chopancho93
@Chopancho93 9 ай бұрын
xD yes, me! Was just checking that out. I was starting to think my screen had a dead pixel but I noticed it wasn't present in other shots or when moving a window over it.
@VonFoughman
@VonFoughman 9 ай бұрын
Oyeah almost had an heart attack
@VincentsCache
@VincentsCache 9 ай бұрын
Yep came here to see if anyone else saw this
@superkamizack2
@superkamizack2 9 ай бұрын
Maaaaaaybeeee ... Lol
@notavailablenam
@notavailablenam 9 ай бұрын
YES
@minecraftmaniac360
@minecraftmaniac360 9 ай бұрын
Pulling from the labs crew for more in-depth details is incredible! The added insight the labs members have on more specific/niche tech is a critical touch
@Huebz
@Huebz 9 ай бұрын
When he said “the Samsung is more pleasing to my eye” I think it summed a lot of this up really well. For nearly everyone, and nearly all content, how it’s “supposed” to look matters far less than if looks the way the watcher wants.
@JFat5158
@JFat5158 9 ай бұрын
Same for audio, studio monitors aren't always the best experience even though they may be more accurate. People like 'colour' in their audio, not usually the more flat audio experience.
@jackmiller8851
@jackmiller8851 9 ай бұрын
yeah, this is a neat review in terms of geek factor but, watching this review on my 1440p IPS monitor, it's like, who cares - I'm not buying it, i'll never know the difference and literally none of the displays I'll ever watch content on will have this accuracy. you really have to wonder what the point is. I guess cinema displays - projectors or IMAX - but what % of professional content/cinema consumers actually view via those channels these days? everyone's streaming on their sh-tbox 4k budget TV or monitor these days
@djoetma
@djoetma 9 ай бұрын
Same with audio. F.e. a lot of people are critical of Sony dynamically tuning the 1000X-series. But in the past they had the 1R-series that was tuned more neutral, and people didn't buy it. I would say that even people who say they like neutral sound do in fact not like it. The TV manufacturers did their research and know what people like, even better than the people themselves who often don't like the cinema-settings or film-maker mode (which still isn't as accurate as what a monitor like this XMP550 or the Sony, Trimaster series and probably a compromise between producers and experts from the part taking manufacturers) but when they get used to it, they do.
@leksasdf
@leksasdf 9 ай бұрын
@@JFat5158 Preach. Tried Genelecs for a while years ago, and while they were amazing, they just lacked all the pizzazz, had to change to passives for that fun sound.
@0NeeN0
@0NeeN0 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it wouldn't be pleasing to the eye if it was colour and soundmaster on $2k 4k 1k nits OLED and commercial audio set. That's the point. They need those so then consumers on ANY monitor can say "wow the colours/audio are amazing in this movie"
@WhoKnows287
@WhoKnows287 9 ай бұрын
This video made me question if I had a dead pixel on my monitor... Every time the camera went to Linus and Brandon, there was a single white dot on the screen in the exact same place every time.
@chalion8399
@chalion8399 9 ай бұрын
What really got me was the low light quality of their camera while they're in shadow too. No idea why the white pixel was showing up, maybe some post processing error?
@leonardog.2491
@leonardog.2491 9 ай бұрын
@@chalion8399even in HDR 4K I had the same issue here
@4pThorpy
@4pThorpy 9 ай бұрын
Was just about to comment this, the one dead pixel in Brandon's hair was driving me mad
@Adele_Maholan
@Adele_Maholan 9 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience. They made me think my screen was broken.
@TheUlitamateStunt
@TheUlitamateStunt 9 ай бұрын
@@chalion8399 When you crank the ISO of most cameras there are always pixels that end up showing up 'bright', even after a black frame calibration it just seems to be the way cameras are. I know most LTT videos are shot on FX6s which are pretty good with low light, but even so this video looked to be shot in the 100,000 ISO range which is cranking it by any definition.
@raidtheferry
@raidtheferry 9 ай бұрын
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the LTT team for dealing with YT's wack processing and making sure these videos are available in 4k and everything else it is seriously so nice
@nathanielbeven9052
@nathanielbeven9052 3 ай бұрын
..to feed you an ad for a20k tv. kay
@ruffyfluffbeast
@ruffyfluffbeast 9 ай бұрын
I always appreciate the videos where they show us differences in screens and audio quality and I'm watching on my 8 year old computer monitor with built in 3w speakers.
@Eratas1
@Eratas1 9 ай бұрын
Probably 99% of people.
@Randomonity
@Randomonity 9 ай бұрын
I have a three monitor setup with three different monitors (not used concurrently, two are side-by-side with one made for color-accurate editing while the third is on an arm in front of my gaming couch) and I enjoyed watching this on all three at the same time and seeing the differences, and then knowing that I'll never really know the real difference because this was all filmed. Maybe I need to get a Flanders for my fourth monitor :P
@gianclgar
@gianclgar 9 ай бұрын
watching this on an iphone 7 🎉
@EthisProtogen
@EthisProtogen 8 ай бұрын
I'm watching on my pixel 6a
@robertper4102
@robertper4102 9 ай бұрын
I love it when you review pro gear. I'm a 20+ year broadcast video engineer. I always love having the Sony OLED Trimasters, but these Flanders Sci monitors are looking good too. Also a note colorist Cullen Kelly recommends the LG C3 43" as a budget option for a reference monitor. (You still need to professionally calibrate it.)
@DanielJacksonisbiggerinside
@DanielJacksonisbiggerinside 9 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn't even talk about calibrating the consumer displays is a bit worrisome...
@Daithi_mk
@Daithi_mk 9 ай бұрын
How difficult is it to professionally calibrate it?
@DanielJacksonisbiggerinside
@DanielJacksonisbiggerinside 9 ай бұрын
@@Daithi_mk you need test gear (colorimeter, spectrophotometer, some reliable signal generator) and knowledge of the TV calibration menu and the workflow to get reliable results. It shouldn't be more than a few hundred if you have a local calibration tech and that person is not too busy.
@kiaaone8414
@kiaaone8414 9 ай бұрын
@@Daithi_mk It’s not to difficult you just need to get a calibration kit that can handle the tv and your production requirements. Then follow the instructions that come with the tv and calibration kit. Just look up display calibration kit on google for different options just be aware that some of the more capable ones are expensive!
@not-a-lot-of-options
@not-a-lot-of-options 9 ай бұрын
7:25 Right after he says "picking at" there is a cut. My heart sank for a split second as I thought I had dead pixels. Right side of Brandon's Hair and way off to the right of Linus' head lol
@tahmidhossainadib5278
@tahmidhossainadib5278 9 ай бұрын
bruh, i freaked out too
@EmpathVibe
@EmpathVibe 9 ай бұрын
I stopped the video right away and jumped to another tab to check for dead pixels. Phew!!!
@Kris2340k
@Kris2340k 9 ай бұрын
I wiped my screen and it went away and thought it was me lmao
@S7ARBOY
@S7ARBOY 9 ай бұрын
that dead pixel on their camera bout gave me a heart attack.
@hadsumcake1226
@hadsumcake1226 9 ай бұрын
same just bought this G9 like 2 months ago almost cried
@Lyzer69
@Lyzer69 9 ай бұрын
i love this new method of throwing linus in a part of the scene to fill in the viewer with more info and tidbits, idk if it was cause you guys left it out of the script or not but that is very smooth and i wouldnt know if thats fixing a mistake or just a bit either way, loving the progress keep things like this up guys good work
@NearynHub
@NearynHub 9 ай бұрын
HDR is amazing and i am all there for it! Thanks for uploading this in HDR.
@Nighthunt01
@Nighthunt01 9 ай бұрын
HDR content is great wish more content on youtube was HDR👍
@chuchushoeTW
@chuchushoeTW 9 ай бұрын
MOM: Beard-less Linus isn't real. He can't hurt you❤ Beard-less Linus:HETZNER!!!
@DSC4
@DSC4 9 ай бұрын
**Lorax Voice** Thats a LINUX??????
@destroyer99612
@destroyer99612 9 ай бұрын
ur not an og are ya? that used to be linus
@chuchushoeTW
@chuchushoeTW 9 ай бұрын
@destroyer99612 lol just joking, been watching Linus since 2011
9 ай бұрын
When I've seen this, I wondered if that's some old footage.
@fakename2123
@fakename2123 9 ай бұрын
Hetzner is not a trustworthy company, look at their history they are laden with criminal activity
@LordParaDax
@LordParaDax 9 ай бұрын
Thank goodness I needed something to watch
@jerrys.9895
@jerrys.9895 9 ай бұрын
The phrase "memory colors" immediately hit in a way that helped me understand why "reference" footage versus various display processing magic. If you're looking at something for which you have no frame of reference, it could look like anything at all and you will just accept it. If you're looking at something that your brain has an immediate reference for, differences stand out. But, as with all content, color matching is only as good as the palette designed by the color editor. Whatever was filmed by the camera will never be seen by the end user regardless of display; it goes through myriad filters and adjustments that (presumably) have taken into consideration it will be played back on a variety of displays.
@jorisbonson386
@jorisbonson386 9 ай бұрын
I love how these days a 55" tv is 'tiny'
@kiisseli1337
@kiisseli1337 6 ай бұрын
The smallest "tv" size, smaller than that are meant for desktop
@jorisbonson386
@jorisbonson386 6 ай бұрын
@kiisseli1337 dude I remember when a 28" crt tv was massive
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 4 ай бұрын
@@kiisseli1337 idk what you are on, anything bigger than 32 inches is a television.
@4RILDIGITAL
@4RILDIGITAL 9 ай бұрын
For everyday users, a $250 option is more than enough. Understanding the high-end tech and appreciating its justification is a journey on its own.
@Adam-vx6to
@Adam-vx6to 9 ай бұрын
The $250 option is terrible for even normal users. get a halfway decent TV.
@eruannster
@eruannster 9 ай бұрын
The $250 option will be complete ass, I'm sorry to say. At least for something like a 55-inch TV, it will be a bottom-barrel panel with none of the bells and whistles. HDR? Nope. HDMI 2.1/high refresh rate/VRR? Nope. Color accuracy? In your dreams. You'll be lucky to get even the most basic local dimming.
@mycosys
@mycosys 9 ай бұрын
You have clearly never actually seen a quantum dot display of any type. It is the biggest improvement in display since the colour CRT. It won the Nobel prize in physics for good reason.
@Emetsys
@Emetsys 9 ай бұрын
You have clearly never actually seen an OLED display@@mycosys
@sbmotoracer
@sbmotoracer 9 ай бұрын
Define "everyday users". Someone who watches movies everyday in their home room theater for example is also considered an everyday user but would most certainly NOT consider a $250 tv to "more then enough". The only people who would accept that kind of tv are going to be those who have never tried anything better OR people who can't afford better.
@83442handle
@83442handle 9 ай бұрын
6:10 Samsung S95B is 2022 and filmmaker mode has issues.(first year for Samsung with QDOLED) Filmmaker mode is much better with the 2023 S95C sets. Panasonic has the best OLED with out of the box accuracy(better shadow detail) but they dont sell them in the U.S/Canada anymore. If you want dead on accuracy you need to hire a ISF calibrator to calibrate the set. You could calibrate these sets to be much closer to the Flanders....especially if they were using current gen OLED like the MLA from LG and the newer Samsung sets.
@JahonaCA
@JahonaCA 9 ай бұрын
I have an S95C and noticed a big difference once I calibrated the display vs in filmmaker mode. 2023 Filmmaker mode is objectionably better than the 2022 version but it still has issues.
@elsapotk421
@elsapotk421 9 ай бұрын
Would you suggest using film maker mode or the smart calibration feature to get the more accurate picture?
@KurobaSayuki
@KurobaSayuki 9 ай бұрын
the white pixel at 8:21 - 8:25 freaked me out, i just got new monitors and i was scared that i already got a dead pixel
@mrs8768
@mrs8768 9 ай бұрын
xDDD, i just got a new monitor too, but i saw teh comments beforehand :D
@hotfistVODS
@hotfistVODS 9 ай бұрын
I hope this does well because I absolutely love comparisons of high grade enterprise/mastering/EXTREMELY non consumer devices to consumer devices and in a lot of cases, the gap is closing. So it's always super interesting.
@vanqy.
@vanqy. 8 ай бұрын
tbh the samsung is extremly bad here, thats more than a "gap"
@mikecoshan3752
@mikecoshan3752 9 ай бұрын
I have a 65” OLED LG G3, it’s been an eye opener from my old Non HDR LCD Panasonic 55”
@lagrangemechanics
@lagrangemechanics 9 ай бұрын
LTT has done many display videos in the past, and I'm happy to say this is the first (in my memory of watching LTT) that matches HDTVTest in terms of technical level.
@bassdrop001
@bassdrop001 9 ай бұрын
Bearded Linus and not Bearded Linus in the same video? Amazing!
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 9 ай бұрын
only the fake Linus has real tattoo on his #monetizeda$$
@CCISolitude
@CCISolitude 9 ай бұрын
The Linus we need AND deserve!
@Msalehcit
@Msalehcit 9 ай бұрын
Its a God damn "Prestige." This whole "tech channel" has been a CIA psyop directed by Christopher Nolan since day one.
@PrograError
@PrograError 9 ай бұрын
It's Schrödinger's Linus !
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 9 ай бұрын
I find it funny that for Linus a 55 inch TV is "tiny"
@scorch527
@scorch527 9 ай бұрын
I hope it's a joke because if not it's very out of touch
@IceYetiWins
@IceYetiWins 9 ай бұрын
For 20k it is
@GeekProdigyGuy
@GeekProdigyGuy 9 ай бұрын
@@scorch527 it costs $20K and is meant for professional applications...
@ToreOnYouTube
@ToreOnYouTube 9 ай бұрын
It’s all relative. I’d say 55” is the absolute minimum for most living rooms, as you’re probably sitting at least 9 feet from it.
@AliasA1
@AliasA1 9 ай бұрын
@@scorch527 jfc, its not a joke, it's juxtaposing the insane price point with the RELATIVELY-COMPARED-TO-THE-INSANE-PRICE-POINT tiny size, to pique interest about what else might be the reason for the price point. You know, they talk about you (People who call him out of touch because they fail to comprehend very basic communication) sometimes on the wan show, check it out some time.
@ForestCinema
@ForestCinema 9 ай бұрын
The LG OLED is a pretty standard “client” monitor alongside a colorist’s Flanders (or equivalent) just for anyone curious. Of course, proper pipeline, and paying a tech to professionally calibrate it still apply.
@hitardo
@hitardo 9 ай бұрын
10:45 TCL is actually one of the few mass-market TV OEMs which is vertically integrated, including in the chips. This is quite impressive as they have budget-friendly offerings. Hence, I typically assume that they see it as not a part of their core business. Which is especially strange, given that the chip is something which can make or break a TV. Moreover, Samsung has a branch which designs and manufacturers chips.
@Spiralem
@Spiralem 9 ай бұрын
That 1 white pixel when on Brandon and Linus scene make me think i have a frozen pixel on my display -.-
@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan 9 ай бұрын
This reminds me of when I was working a job at the Sony Store in the Galleria Mall in Dallas TX circa 2007, when Sony released the XEL-1: the world's first OLED Television. The screen was tiny, at only 11 inches diagonal, and it cost $2,500. Crazy how far we've come since then!
@PolyHertz
@PolyHertz 9 ай бұрын
That was the TV I thought of when reading the video title, saw it at a Sony store when went to a GDC convention in 2008. Really left an impression at the time.
@nickryan3417
@nickryan3417 9 ай бұрын
This brought back memories of reviewing video output on a studio monitor. It was an old Sony CRT model, and only a grade 2 device, but the quality that it picked up and showed was tremendous. It was well worth it compared to any other display we tried by comparison, and that's before all the useful features such as a proper visual overscan display, colour masking and anything else available was used.
@nicolasmaltais530
@nicolasmaltais530 9 ай бұрын
The camera filming Brandon and Linus show a white stuck pixel located mostly in the hairs of Brandon. Anyone noticed ?
@JeffJK000
@JeffJK000 9 ай бұрын
Yep. A few weeks ago (about a month now), I noticed the same pixel in another video.
@averye
@averye 9 ай бұрын
you can really see it when it zooms in on linus at 13:31
@crudedude85
@crudedude85 9 ай бұрын
I assume the Flanders arrived for review after being perfectly calibrating using $15k worth of colorimeters and Spectroradiometers. Can the same be said for the Samsung and the LG? unless they were all calibrated using the same gear and software, isn't this test sorta a waste of time to compare? I work in professional content creation and filmmaker mode out of the box isn't anything I would rely on. We run the monitor through calman studio with proper gear. Everyone can drool over Flanders, but perhaps its not the screen that's so beautiful, but instead the perfect calibration you are seeing. Years ago, rumor on the street was that their XM series OLEDs were $17k screens that were using THE SAME internal LG panels, but Flanders threw on some SDI ports , added internal LUT processing, added easy colorspace switching , but it in a custom branded chassis, and jacked the price from $3000 (consumer LG) to $17,000. So before everyone starts getting too excited about these Flanders, we should be asking once again where they are getting these panels internally. I can only assume they are getting the same panels as what Sony is using in their QDOLEDs. So if that's true, you are drooling over a Sony A95L with some bells and whistles on it, and most importantly a PROPER STUDIO LEVEL CALIBRATION. EDIT: As I get further into this video I now see Flanders is touting a tetrahedral LUT ....the C2 and G2 LGs started doing this too. good grief. You need to redo this shoot but calibrate the damn LG professionally. You guys may be getting tricked. I have a feeling a $4000 LG G3 (G4 will for sure be a better option) that is properly calibrated will be almost identical to this Flanders. AND THEN, if you see a difference between them still, who is to say that the LG OLED isn't more accurate than the Flanders. Are you saying just because it has a larger price tag, its more accurate? With that theory, if Kia charged $90k for a suv, does that price automatically make it better quality than a Mercedes?
@brandon_bates
@brandon_bates 9 ай бұрын
I remember back in the early days of FSI (mid 2000's) when they came by our shop to demo their first monitors. At the time they were more the less expensive version of the higher end monitors (like sony, dolby, etc). They brought a klein color sensor as well. It was an interesting demo, but hard to beat our CRTs at the time (blacks especially of course, we had large widescreen sony CRTs BVM-D32 I think.) Fun to see them rise to the top!
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 9 ай бұрын
17:00 i mean, if someone wanted to make the best projector... separate lasers and dlp chips for each laser. i dont care if i have to hand calibrate it.
@michaelwillman5342
@michaelwillman5342 9 ай бұрын
Surgical monitors are very similar and they are fantastic monitors. Even going back to CRTs, these "broadcast" and medical monitors are far superior to what the normal person would get at home.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
You can at least get those surplus rather inexpensively. They are excellent to use with a microscope camera. ❤
@shadowjfd
@shadowjfd 9 ай бұрын
Who’s that guy at 1:21?!? 😨
@ducdashot1239
@ducdashot1239 5 ай бұрын
i kinda wish they had the flanders guys be interviewed, its always a ton of fun seeing people who are passionate about their specific field break it down in detail
@vvsmane547
@vvsmane547 9 ай бұрын
6:03 if you use filmmaker mode on Samsung TV you are basically watching content through lightly applied sepia filter so it doesn't surprise me that you would complain about color accuracy
@fraizie6815
@fraizie6815 9 ай бұрын
Flanders Scientific who happened to be in the neighborhood huh? So not only does he pray for God now, he also makes reference TVs
@stefannita3439
@stefannita3439 4 ай бұрын
Watching this in HDR on an M3 Max MacBook Pro display was awesome. Some of those scenes seared my eyeballs right out. Probably the best HDR video I've seen so far (that actually had content worth consuming and wasn't just a tech showcase)
@zekrodev
@zekrodev 9 ай бұрын
Seeing Hetzner Ads on LTT while being Hetzner customer since years, both in our company as well as for my private stuff. Feels good to have such a great, local sponsor on this channel.
@techbulb3440
@techbulb3440 9 ай бұрын
They ask for driver’s license to sign up
@zekrodev
@zekrodev 9 ай бұрын
@@techbulb3440 Dont know how it is in other countries, but in Germany they only require payment information, which is kinda obvious though.
@alexmeyer8133
@alexmeyer8133 9 ай бұрын
I have tried a lot of different OLED TV's. By far, my favorite TV i have seen is the one i own. The LG C2 (and hopefully soon the C3). Not only is it amazing for watching movies, but gaming in 4K 120fps with gsync on my 4070 ti super / 7800x3d PC build really takes advantage of what the LG C2 has to offer. I went with the 42" and got it open box, but brand new, for $700. From PC, to PS5, to watching movies and shows, i truly belive it is the best tv you can get for its cost.
@WilliamMenzies-sm1on
@WilliamMenzies-sm1on 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@SaloCh
@SaloCh 9 ай бұрын
7:00 yeahhh I mean, if it looks way lighter in the specialized screen, and too dark in most normal screens, shouldn't they compensate for that? Edit: ok later he does say that this doesn't happen nearly as much with actual content. But like it is a thing people complain about
@synicalfutilist4890
@synicalfutilist4890 9 ай бұрын
From about 6:15 there's a dead pixel on your camera or some other anomaly when facing both you guys, i panicked thinking my 2 week old qled was imperfect but it's definitely there.
@Izquierda
@Izquierda 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see the E251 and E171 BVMs getting a quick shout out in the end. They remain the absolute best SDR HD (and, with some qualifications, SD) displays ever. If only these Flanders monitors had BFI for motion clarity on 60fps content they'd be seriously compelling. The HX3110 does have it as an option if you buy a license for it.
@phyde1885
@phyde1885 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if any one mentioned it, but @ 9:47 to 9:49, the Tree Bark seen on the XMP550 was MUCH clearer than the S95B. It was more noticeable around the top backside of his head,but the Grain definition depth is cleaner on this monitor. The difference to me was like night and day. Now i look again in still shot,the jaw area too shows lighter and more detail too. I am also viewing this @ 4K 30FPS on you tube on a ASUS PG32UQR 4K. Looks Amazing ! I've been hoping for Monitors to reach this level of Accuracy, per say to the Human Eye, without TOO much extravagance ! This Monitor comes close, you have to start somewhere ! It will only get better. That will be the eye poppers! Would I like to have it,YES. Can I afford it? NO ! Uncle left me at the bottom of the Hand-Out Line with Peas every Month ! 😓 Something like the XMP550 @ $20K is completely not within any possible reach on my budget. Even if it was $5K. FPGA's are nothing new,they are just creeping into this space now. They use this sort of tech in Engineering Procs so they can re-program them all the time on the Fly,so to speak. Another reason that makes FPGAs more expensive,more to it than that though. And they are faster than a cpu driven unit. Like everything,there are good and bad. Now if we can get some MORE NEW Mixes into the different screen technologies into the fray to help push us into in next Frontier,instead of same old same old. Looking at BATTERIES !! Don't get me started. I will end that note here. 😎
@ItStewball
@ItStewball 9 ай бұрын
HDR is breaking my streaming experience. It turned the whole video into a lower contrast result than what I'm used to I also changed every single element on the screen while the video was active This is on a Samsung S20fe btw
@Nerry_a_Pigeon
@Nerry_a_Pigeon 9 ай бұрын
I'm watching this video on my 250 USD MVA monitor from 2013 and I can confirm that I'm very satisfied by all these color differences and brightness halos on these 20000 USD TVs :)
@SigmaEpsilon
@SigmaEpsilon 9 ай бұрын
Currently running 2x LG 27GL83A-B 27" QHD IPS 1ms NVIDIA G-SYNC. Interesting video.
@SecretMoose
@SecretMoose 9 ай бұрын
@LinusTechTips Apparently the latest S95B firmware has reduced the max brightness significantly. There are ways to restore it through secret menus but quite a lot of complaints out there at Samsungs behaviour. Unsure their reasoning but it appears to affect the picture quite a bit. As a fellow BC S95B owner to Brandon, I’d love it if that could be tested by the labs team to either validate or dismiss the claims. One of the reasons I chose the S95B over the C2 was your original video where the impressions seem vastly different to the LG today.
@smartduck904
@smartduck904 9 ай бұрын
Just change the contrast to 47 that's what I had to do with my lg also bring down the gama a bit resorts in a pretty big difference I would also bring down saturation vibrance down one or two points
@yousellouts
@yousellouts 9 ай бұрын
Odd that a Sony A95L wasn't used given that it's the best OLED and pretty much the best TV currently available on the consumer market. You'd think a direct comparison with that and the XMP550 would make the most sense. Especially since the A95L has a 55" model which is the same size as the XMP550.
@yousellouts
@yousellouts 9 ай бұрын
Also mfw just purchased a 42" A90K for my bedroom and Linus calls a 55" tiny.
@ksterlings197
@ksterlings197 9 ай бұрын
HEY I KNOW THIS!!! I once went with my colleague (We're both Spanish) to pick up 8 of these in Georgia. I walked in alone because he was having a cigarette outside. The old racist white dude at the counter told me "There's no loitering here boy" and to come back with my boss because this is worth more than "your kind" makes in a year :) Went outside and called my boss telling him exactly that and in 30 mins he was there causing hell, Needless to say, Old Yeller completely denied it to the point we had to call his manager to check the cameras just to confirm what he said or we won't be purchasing. Hope that snide comment was worth more than your job "boy" :)
@gregrohsful
@gregrohsful 8 ай бұрын
Sure
@user540000
@user540000 9 ай бұрын
Linus: "why would anybody buy a 55" TV for 20k?" US Government: "hold my beer"
@jacewhite8540
@jacewhite8540 9 ай бұрын
So hard to appreciate through a notfilmmaker grade monitor, though youTube video compression.
@cocoGioia
@cocoGioia 9 ай бұрын
Finally a great HDR showcase, LTT finally shot many of their videos in HDR, and they upload them in HDR, which is now becoming increasingly widespread in smartphones, tablets, oled monitors and TVs
@loganhatch
@loganhatch 9 ай бұрын
I like how the time stamp at 1:30 to skip past the ad still makes sure you get the last bit of it that sends you to the store with a discount code. I see what you did there. And I like it.
@tikitakaboyz5050
@tikitakaboyz5050 9 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Only thing is I wish that instead of the LG they could've used the Sony A95L to also compare the very best TV in the market
@trailingrails9953
@trailingrails9953 9 ай бұрын
The dead pixels on the camera sensor at 5:52 and 7:30 had me thinking my brand new (as of today) monitor had a dead pixel. (to the far right, a little above halfway up the frame)
@deliciouserest
@deliciouserest 4 ай бұрын
Watching on my LG OLED and it makes the G2 almost always look better
@miroslavhoudek7085
@miroslavhoudek7085 9 ай бұрын
FPGAs are expensive, but not that expensive maybe. If someone were to made a slightly simpler display with HDMI / DP and some user programmable embedded ARM + FPGA with open source codes, a lot of people would be very happy to fork over some cash. Think about it. A display that would get endless enthusiast tweaks. A display without ads in the menu (looking at Samsung with pure disgust).
@jette24
@jette24 9 ай бұрын
at 7:29 that one pixel in the guys hair scared the crap out of me i thought my monitor had a dead one lol
@rogercabo5545
@rogercabo5545 9 ай бұрын
Linus is a great performer and speaker, possessing the ability to inspire belief and radiate a positive vibe in front of the camera. I never felt deceived.
@Astro-M0
@Astro-M0 9 ай бұрын
Now do a blind test where you cover up every tv's stand and borders and then let's see if you can tell which one is the $20,000 one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Djoki1
@Djoki1 9 ай бұрын
I was watching this on a decent office monitor. Then i went and watched again on my S23 Ultra and there is a significant difference in everything. I knew there was gonna be a huge difference, but i rarely watch HDR content and it always amazes me when i do.
@eriklundstedt9469
@eriklundstedt9469 9 ай бұрын
I am at 8:01 One note i have is that the people are saying "Samsung" and "LG" but on the screen it says the name of the TV (?) Maybe put the manufacturer or whatever underneath to make it extra clear Other than that, I've got nothing to note Keep in mind that I've only watched the first part of the vid though
@mareksinister
@mareksinister 9 ай бұрын
Linus in two weeks: "I bought this monitor for all my employees" 💀
@theycallmehodg89
@theycallmehodg89 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Was really interesting to see the difference between the TV's
@jjjjjj192
@jjjjjj192 9 ай бұрын
All you gotta do is dial back the contrast and saturation a bit and bump up the brightness a notch or two and there you go.
@nathraxx
@nathraxx 9 ай бұрын
Love this and would love to see more content focused on SDI/Professional broadcasting and filmmaking equipment!
@VetBodGaming
@VetBodGaming 6 ай бұрын
This actually makes me want to buy this TV. The trees in the first scene just look so realistic. This also made me realize when I dont like LG TVs, their picture is always too cool looking where the warmer samsung looks better to me
@daylen577
@daylen577 9 ай бұрын
I feel like this is one video where having the main version be an emulated HDR -> SDR one and then a separate true HDR one would've been well worth it. I'm just using an affordable ultrawide and even the things that aren't pointed out are just mostly invisible on my monitor, because while it has very accurate colors it does not do darkness very well
@lozodidit
@lozodidit 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my c2. For 800 dollars, any downside mentioned in this video seems negligible and I'm super happy using it as my main monitor for my PC and PS5
@bricaaron3978
@bricaaron3978 9 ай бұрын
14:16 *"This is the ability of the processor to interpret all the different little micro-steps of color..."* This is one of the many problems with the digital displays that have replaced CRT. A display isn't supposed to "interpret" anything --- it is supposed to _faithfully display the signal it receives._ The only goal of _reproduction_ is just that: to reproduce audio or video as accurately as possible, not to alter or intrepret, or "enhance" it.
@pietroalessandrini
@pietroalessandrini 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video in hdr
@MrGman543
@MrGman543 9 ай бұрын
Are the other TVs professionally calibrated? I thought you could get OLEDs extremely close to a product like the XMP550 if you have someone calibrate it? Maybe I just don't know what calibration actually does 🤔.
@RandomGuyComments
@RandomGuyComments 9 ай бұрын
Me: Clicks to see what’s up even though I’ve got to get back to work Also me: Dudes voice still sounds like a dying goat 😅
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
These are intended for preview of movies to tune the color balances for the theatrical release. That is a very exclusive market and in no small part is why they are so expensive.
@takuminightcore1886
@takuminightcore1886 9 ай бұрын
You really need to like start testing a lot more TVs from cheap to mid to expensive because it would definitely help a lot of people to select their TVs of what’s good and what’s bad
@NeFFu420
@NeFFu420 9 ай бұрын
That dead pixel on one of your cameras is very noticeable. It had me worried thinking my TV had a dead pixel.
@coleharring
@coleharring 8 ай бұрын
Nope but hopefully they see that one of their cameras have a dead pixel.
@SamLefever
@SamLefever 9 ай бұрын
Tech monitor info series brings me so much happiness
@karumaman
@karumaman 9 ай бұрын
I like how at the 7:30 mark they display a white pixel in the upper left middle of the screen. Literally thought I had a bad pixel there for a second!
@TheRoCkHaRdOrDiE
@TheRoCkHaRdOrDiE 9 ай бұрын
not connecting to the internet is what makes it stands out for me, most tvs now want you to connect to the internet so badly while also being horrible in every way.
@Xirpzy
@Xirpzy 9 ай бұрын
Novel idea but from what I know about colorists and colour grading is that they use regular monitors and TVs for content creation, as that is how it will be viewed by pretty much everyone. Making content look superb on a very niche and specific display doesnt make much sense if it then looks bad on a regular screen. There are ofcourse variations with grading for a cinema or TV. What Im saying is that to get the full experience you need to view content specifically made for this type of screen.
@TheCentristChad
@TheCentristChad 9 ай бұрын
20k!!! Maybe the Apple Pro Display XDR wasnt a bad deal at 5K?
@marbben7300
@marbben7300 9 ай бұрын
Pls compare then with the S95D
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 9 ай бұрын
0:47 Flanders really stepped up from the Leftorium and church
@Iron_Condorr
@Iron_Condorr 9 ай бұрын
8:12 The camera sensor is bad/damaged. If you see the little "Spec" in Brendan's hair every time they cut to them talking in person. It is hard to make out. But I assure you it is there. 8:22
@VCoKhronis
@VCoKhronis 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the HDR upload, I haven't seen much content in HDR on youtube. Gandalf's scene was kind of like a flashbang in a good way if that makes sense.
@juanromero-fi2cf
@juanromero-fi2cf 9 ай бұрын
i still have my old eizo monitor that came with the smoke suite back in the day, still today holds up
@JohnUntivero
@JohnUntivero 6 ай бұрын
Toss those movies into DaVinci Resolve and have the output via an IO device. If you’re using Mac or Windows, their color management alters the colors a bit, versus loading it into Resolve and getting the feed thru the IO Box, it’ll give you closer to the raw colors in the video file.
@famrofexl
@famrofexl 9 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see a comparison between the reference monitor and a calibrated samsung and lg. I wonder if there are differences beyond the color accuracy. Obviously the brightness reproduction is also a distinct difference.
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