AliExpress Wouldn't Lie... Right? - Crelander Dual Screen Laptop

[@Alias_Anybody]

Honestly, they were SO CLOSE. Better BIOS (CPU boost and proper RAM usage), 20 bucks more for the panel and a less bizarre keyboard layout, and this would be a hidden gem.

[@RobGMun]

The panel isn't even a deal braker for me. For a screen that size the resolution is fine. And the cpu and ram can be fixed with a firmware update. So close to being a hidden gam as you say

[@313A9]

@paras shut up man

[@logmaster534]

@RobGMun the problem with the display is the horrendous colors. With a coverage like that it is probably even strongly noticeable to the average person.

[@Pete292323]

you can remap the keyboard easily.

[@leonro]

Not even a different kb layout, just swap a couple of key positions. But there's no way they could just add two cores to an i7-10750H, so you can't just "fix" it entirely.

[@PatrickAdairDesigns]

I can’t believe Linus has never heard of the clearly superior right-shift-backspace key placement.

[@hueman69420]

I like apples

[@grants7390]

@paras you didn't cook the rice first did you. if not try again with cooked rice.

[@nordicsweetroll]

Well shoot, didn't expect to see you here Patrick lmao

[@-MrEVIL-]

Love your ring designs man 😌

[@aleksandrpetrosyan1140]

Linus hasn’t learned of a lot of things.

[@Jaeboy]

07:21 having worked in China, I can tell you why they partition boot and user files separately. It comes from the old school mindset where you'd had to re-install windows once in a while to keep it snappy. Keeping the user files away removes the hassle of having to use an external drive for backup. (We're talking Win Me/ XP era).

[@bensterWasHere]

Makes sense

[@Michelbouf]

old school mindset? my friend I still do that, how is that old school haha

[@lumpython5351]

Chinese are hopelessly stubborn.

[@Epilogue_04]

Is this reliable today?

[@SamratDuttabdn]

We do this in india too

[@MBUncle]

Honestly it's very worth a follow-up video with Anthony tinkering further with the Bios and try to find a boost solution. There has to be a way to unlock that CPU boost!

[@SilverReviews]

I agree, and upgrading the ram and remapping the keyboard. I am curious to see how much more expensive it would be and time consuming to get things working exactly as needed.

[@abdullahbhatti4234]

And upgrading the ram +nvme

[@The_Keeper]

Unfortunately, those upgrades won't do anything about the extremely crap display. I mean, you *could* upgrade that too, but that is so much more difficult.

[@Wolfy11188]

@@The_Keeper I mean possibly but it could also be very simple. I had an old Samsung laptop 10 years ago that had such an easy screen replacement. I barely knew what I was doing and it took maybe 30 mins. If you can get one that's the right size and connectors for less than $100 then it could be a simple fix for a big boost.

[@arthurcady6302]

I'm disappointed they didn't do this here lol

[@LiquidThunder12]

The way Alex comes into frame with something to say and immediately looks to camera, even when talking to Linus, always makes me laugh. It's endearing for some reason haha

[@robertt9342]

It’s like an office reaction.

[@bsame]

@@robertt9342 What do you mean? He is in an office, that's his workplace.

[@robertt9342]

@@bsame . It’s a tv show….

[@hoofhearted4]

@@robertt9342 he is Jim. wonder who he pranks? who is the Dwight of LTT?....now i need an episode where they compare everyone in LTT to an Office character.

[@BEAST.420G]

Alex is basically Linus’ little minion lol

[@yiany]

I really loved how the HDMI icon flipped to reflect the actual orientation of it on the machine.

[@milannekuhh]

The editors with their little funny details, I love it. The flipped HDMI port icon😅

[@toetie2019]

@Daniel Leone is this supposed to be funny…

[@Vplis]

OMG i came down to the coments just to mention this! i loved the animation

[@dougr8646]

@toetia Please help my computer isn't working I deleted windows but now it has an ugly screen with some monster. Help?

[@SadSephiroth]

Beat me to the comment lol

[@BananaGusFringFan]

Yeah

[@ruatachhangte]

That flipping HDMI animation there was a nice touch which made me chuckle in delight. Whoever edited this, you are on top of your game.

[@thebaker8637]

There’s credits at the end of the video if you want to know who the editor is. :)

[@gamamew]

Mark Rathgeber he edited this 👌

[@trailtalesAustria]

@@gamamew Mark*

[@MVVblog]

02:10 Do you seriously not know that socket is an OCuLink port? Are you kidding me? Amazing!

[@Spiderjin]

He doesn't know anything; he only makes funny faces, lol.

[@robertoscarpari5332]

Grande Marco!

[@marcoc.4934]

Dignene!!!

[@Superjet41]

Ciao Marcoo!

[@matteopietrelli1395]

marco mio padre

[@michaelingram9354]

I love the upside down HDMI port on the specs portion instead of the usual right side up graphic. Props for the fun little things

[@EsotericWizard]

nice eye! So glad you noticed -- what a great detail

[@beardsntools]

Yeah lmao you can see it flip

[@BoJackHorsemann]

but they managed to screw up the USB 3.0 icons lol

[@DeKevers]

@@EsotericWizard Linus brought it up thoufg

[@amandagirlygirl12]

Big question is:did they [A] flip the HDMI port by accident & incompetence? Or [B], by design, on PURPOSE, and if so: what DA FUCK was it? I'm inclined to think [A]

[@thavionhawkmkii4509]

After working computer tech in a college town for over a decade, one full of Asian students in particular, I can confirm that the vast majority of computers they brought from home had three or more partitions even on SSDs. The computers that came in sourced from the US did not often have this layout making me sure that it's a regional standard thing.

[@epicoddgamer2900]

This way we can reinstall windows and not lose all our data

[@Didier88600]

I'm european and have usually 3 partitions on my computers.... not a big deal to setup if you dont want to loose data.

[@MEICKK]

@@Didier88600 i've never thought of that... I should do that next time i te install windows lol

[@MoltenEQ]

Yeah, one of my college m8s also bought a laptop recently, and it has like 4 partitions. I see epic odd gamers reasoning behind 2 partitions, but y more?

[@jokuemt]

@@epicoddgamer2900 or just have dedicated 128-250gb windows drive lol

[@slatefeather320]

It would be a fun video idea to "fix" this laptop. Throw in a more relaible SSD, swap the ram out, fix the bios and let the cpu boost to higher clock speeds. Maybe even fix the weird keyboard layout by remapping the keys in software. It might be a very good deal in terms of performance even after accounting for the price of the fixes.

[@Montisaquadeis]

Can't really remap the power button in this case since it is where backspace is normally on a keyboard. As for "fixing" the BIOS/UEFI that would take a software engineer to do correctly honestly and they would have to have PROPER knowledge of BIOS/UEFI and they work in the modern era to be able to "properl;y" fix the dang thing.

[@DawidSikora]

reprogramming BIOS is unrealistic but the rest would be cool

[@hahahhaha8146]

hell why not even add a PCIe based egpu for it! i mean it does apparently advertise to support it

[@Oque.Nos.Somoss]

Agreed.

[@Aarthurnax]

Shouldn't flashing the BIOS actually fix the problem? Maybe I'm just dumb, but I had to upgrade my PC BIOS so it could support TPM 2.0 to install Windows 11, so I believe simple updating should go beyond that

[@aravindudayakumar7074]

I'm interested in seeing the BIOS options on this laptop. A lot of Chinese laptops from little-known brands have very customizable and unlocked BIOS settings, so there might be a way to manually increase the RAM speeds, adjust the CPU TDP and clocks, and more.

[@toboekey1273]

And u forgot to mention they frel cheap n looks like crap 🙄 id only pay $10usd fuckin bucks for that shitty laptop lol 🤣

[@CutieBarj]

I agree with you, the bios is something to look at here

[@patrickkeller2193]

considering the heatsink, they probably expect one hell of an overclock on that cpu

[@nayan.punekar]

@@patrickkeller2193 lmao

[@KILLERMATYCZ]

@@patrickkeller2193 Well, H is not unlocked, so no overclock, just boost.

[@deliciouschicken]

Gotta be honest. I can't tell you the last time I used the right shift key. That being said this keyboard design is strange.

[@mango-float]

I have never ever used the right shift key. Even going back to when I was in pre-school I've never touched it

[@alexdavis9324]

After you pointed it out. I litterally never use it either. Fuck it time to make it a macro button

[@levanivashadze]

Guess you never heard of touch typing

[@OleJanssen]

@paras Go to hell, Bot! That's all you need.

[@ArmiaKhairy]

I use it when both pressing it and right ctrl to quicly highlight a word with my left hand. also use it to change writing from LTR to RTL.

[@LinusTechTips]

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[@feefre]

Yes I would, I require the aliexpress listing

[@quantissimo]

yes, to steal the components but no

[@cooljoker2027]

its oky man for u , if you buy 700$ is nothing for that pc at the least not 1,000,000 $ computer and after is broken hahaha

[@gamepad3173]

I would just to upgrade the ram and maybe the SSD. but I think that would be about it. seems like everything else is fine. despite the few lies sprinkled in here and there about the laptop.

[@johnpage6188]

Honestly you can’t pay me to use any laptop. They are always a bad investment in my small opinion.

[@jar768jake]

14:59 Linus going in sync with the crab bounce for a quick second made my day

[@timmtn]

No.. the reason to partition your harddrive, if you only have 1, is to have on partition for data/steam/games/etc and another partition for OS, so you can format the OS partition, every time you want to reinstall your OS. This way you dont have to reinstall all your steam games, or move your data, to external storage for a re-install.

[@shawnpitman876]

I just have a drive that's only my OS LUL

[@Nabee_H]

Anyone who would actually want to do that though would probably just do it themselves. Your average person just wants an unpartitioned drive.

[@BackseatStudios]

Yeah, that's a very common thing with Chinese people.

[@SamuelLing]

@@Nabee_H I used to do tech support in my dorm, and I learned about partitioning the hard drive thing, it seems like people act very recklessly on their drive, removing important stuff that keep their PC, not sure how they do it, but somehow there's always issue on the C drive, so I make a partition and told them, "no matter what you do, use the D drive, don't use the C drive for your college stuff and work", I never heard any problem on their PC wont boot after they do clean up for next semester. it's kinda like dumb proofing the PC IMO

[@corwinweber693]

The problem is that's a Linux thing that never really HAS worked on Windows. Yes, you can do that with Linux easily. Hell you can do that with pretty much any UNIX type system. Windows defaults to installing everything to C: and it gets very pissy if you don't get with the program files, capiche?

[@witcdesigns1693]

Personally I have never been able to build muscle memory to use Right-Shift, but that power button is unforgivable. When I still had my MacBook (2015) I always hit the power button when aiming for backspace.

[@arnobchowdhury9641]

Exactly I always use Left Shift only.

[@kobacongaming7228]

Yeaaaa that's what I was thinking. Who uses right shift lol left shift is more intuitive

[@antonhelsgaun]

Yeah I'd much rather have the delete button there

[@temporal_paradox]

I've never used right shift in my life

[@lenano]

That rear PCIe connector looks a lot like OCuLink. It's a thing that was supposed to be a Thunderbolt competitor but ended up mostly being used internally in servers for NVMe connections. Hope they didn't mess with the pinout or something lol, would be interesting to see if it works. Also I love that they straight up put the PCIe logo on the back lol.

[@theinktician]

disappointed they didnt test that

[@jaykoerner]

@@theinktician they didn't even know it existed till filming, so hard to test

[@danieljones9937]

@@jaykoerner They probably should have known; on the aliexpress site it says that the machine supports external graphic cards and makes no mention of the USB-C port being Thunderbolt (because presumably, it isn't). 'External Graphics Card Interface * 1' is also in the ports list(this is in the section where it lies about the capabilities of the 10750H and the RAM though, so maybe that was just dismissed as more lies). What's hilarious is they appear to have photoshopped right-shift and backspace keys (in their proper positions) onto the image where it details the WIFI capabilities of the machine (but it looks like the keys are power and delete in the other photos where they are visible).

[@slavb0i646]

@@danieljones9937 that express card slot is only like 1x, any gpu would not be good on that. maybe like an add on card such as a m.2 slot card but other than that is pretty useless for gpu's

[@debug9424]

@@slavb0i646 this isn't an expresscard slot It looks like OCuLink, which has 4 lanes

[@jasonwu2758]

Partitioning still makes sense if you format your OS drive often and still wish to keep backup storage. Everything else.. But hopefully like retro handhelds (which have evolved heaps in the last 2+ years), they will listen to customers and reviews and with next iterations they can get much closer to a fantastic affordable alternative.

[@jasonwu2758]

@@zaandam0172 As I'm aware it's not automatic. You can partition when you install the OS. Back in the day you did in through fdisk commands through DOS. Don't think you were alive yet..

[@Natewu188]

i partition my drives for organization

[@serge3049]

I cannot imagine anyone willingly partitioning their primary SSD with Windows nowadays. (Except for using different FFS for different partitions, but that is a rare case) With all these updates and applications that don't allow you to choose drive to install to, it will be waste of space and space management overhead. You will end up bouncing big files and applications between partitions. Or backing all up before using 3rd party tools to repartition disk. Why will anyone go into these complications?

[@jasonwu2758]

@@serge3049 Yep. Why not buy another SSD/Nvme drive for backup? Of course everyone on earth has easy access to it and the means to purchase it. What if they can only afford one large SSD? Will they re-install a whole Steam library of games when the OS fails? Will they buy a NAS for storying a library of media? You have enough sata ports to get more than 4 drives? Those are just 3 scenarios. Makes no sense to "you" I can see. Ohhh wait.. They can just backup everything on the cloud right? because everyone has 1 Gigabit fibre. My bad.

[@alexatkin]

@@Natewu188 That's literally what folders are for.

[@falkenvir]

The power button on the backspace location is actually a total deal breaker

[@alexatkin]

That and the deleted right shift.

[@jojomicheldu59]

@@alexatkin Wait, people actually use rshift ?

[@Omar-ki2dy]

Sure, pay 3 times more for those buttons you can't live with. A genius like you absolutely needs those button to work at nasa. 🫠

[@pepp77]

The power button isn’t actually where the backspace should be though, it’s on the line above the numbers and the backspace is correctly on the line with the numbers, he’ll my £1200 cell laptop has the same setup, just with a bigger backspace button, but the power button is in the exact place as on this. Never once hit power instead of backspace.

[@_Aking_]

This video makes me think: how much would it cost to buy a cheap AliExpress laptop and upgrade it (memory, storage, etc..) and end up with something better than buying a real laptop. I hope to see a video like this soon

[@arivald6677]

Since its stolen project you could probably buy spare display and keyboard and try to craft it up.

[@sebastianjost]

The problem might be to get a proper bios.

[@pfizerpricehike9747]

@@sebastianjost fax If the manufacturer can’t even , how shall we ?

[@kerbo312]

"real" I mean those aren't usually the best quality laptops, but they definitely not imaginary either

[@MiniRockerz4ever]

You still pay tons of import taxes when buying from AliExpress... years ago it might have been cheaper, now not really. EU citizen experience...

[@OmniUni]

It's probably worth noting that as with a lot of these types of computers, the components likely vary somewhat. Especially things that are easy to swap; the RAM, the SSD, even the LCD panel, are probably whatever stock is reasonably close and that they want to move. Even with the slight mismatch on specs, to be honest, it's a super cool computer for under $800.

[@jujuria13]

You guys have no idea how efficient china has become. They've been pushed to the limit on cost Saving while maintaining ok quality. No one can beat China in production prowess

[@sheeplord4976]

Except Taiwan apparently.

[@otdosa]

Yeah but a bad screen is a deal-breaker for some.

[@mikkelbreiler8916]

11:50 I like when Linus extends his hand towards the webcamera, the colours in the live picture turn to near greyscale to a second. Now that is crappy.

[@HaydenLikeHey]

If it helps, I never use the right shift key so that keyboard wouldn't be incredibly terrible to use imo

[@fsendventd]

yeah exactly, I'm like "people use right shift??" I'd be happy to split it in half and get back two of the keys I lost from that trackpad

[@FrankFurther]

I refuse to believe anyone uses the right shift key.

[@ColtenMHickerson]

@@FrankFurther it must be a canadian thing because we were never taught to use the right shift key in keyboard class. But then again i taught myself playing runescape as a kid in the early 2000's.

[@your_average_cultured_dude]

@@ColtenMHickerson keyboard class???? is that something taught in schools where you live? in my country computer related stuff isn't taught in school and almost everyone types with just 2 fingers

[@Gr33nMamba]

I blame Mavis Beacon teaches typing. I have never ever used the right shift key for anything. Yes I can hold down the left shift key with my pinky and still hit any left hand character, including z quickly.

[@de_stroyed]

7:35--no, Linus. They know what they are doing. They partition the drives to make it SEEM like it has an extra hard drive in it or a secondary drive to the less technically inclined. I fell victim to this too when I was 14ish, wanting to get my Windows XP computer fixed at a sketchy repair shop. They partitioned my drive and claimed they added another hard-drive, but they didn't add anything.

[@lightingkid2010]

they dont know what they are doing of they are doing that lol

[@de_stroyed]

@@lightingkid2010 no, because they charged me extra for a hard drive they didn't even put in

[@Terahydron]

@@de_stroyed you didn't see the size was same?

[@de_stroyed]

@@Terahydron I was a kid that didn't know much about these things as I know now and I forgot how the storage amount I had.

[@ТЫРЫ-ПЫРЫ]

they use a partitioned disk to pay Microsoft less for installing Windows

[@zorilla0]

Sadly, ~63% sRGB coverage is still pretty much the norm in 2023 for IPS displays in budget laptops, even for major brands. Even not-so-budget models are affected. For instance, I have yet to use a ThinkPad T-series laptop that does any better (I'm sure better screens can be optioned, but who actually ordered them that way?). Even the P50 I had briefly a couple years ago was just as bad. You can usually tell if a laptop comes with one of these because it will be labeled something like "43% NTSC" on the spec sheet and/or have a max brightness of 250 nits instead of something better.

[@ItsGonnaB3Sick]

One good reason to partition a boot drive (especially on a laptop) is to keep your OS separate from your files in case you want to format or if windows update screw your files. Always did that even on ssd so it's way easier to clean install and keep the important stuff.

[@bland9876]

I didn't know you could clean install without having to erase your entire hard drive That's really cool however I still would do this myself because having a separate drive for all your data is easier to navigate in the file structure.

[@ItsGonnaB3Sick]

@@bland9876 sure 2+ drives is always the best but I was talking about laptop in general. They most of the time come with only 1 drive so you make the best of what you have. 1TB ssd for an OS boot partition is excessive imo. That's why I normally cut it to have the strict minimum on the boot drive.

[@Catani84]

Same here....I never cared about the speed or use of the HDD. I always did and do 2 partitions ..one for the OS and the second for all my files so when everything inevitably craps out in Windows I can format in 5 minutes without worrying about losing files or backups. Way easier. Problem is even though I do it for most of my clients and I explain to them why and how to do it a lot of them just save everything in Documents or Desktop and cry when they lose everything when something goes wrong.

[@robertt9342]

@@Catani84 . Just have the desktop and documents folder associate to the other partition.

[@FragmaKepi]

Here in Taiwan I see many people partitioning their drive for this exact reason. One of the possible reasons I could think of is when someone runs into a problem with Windows and they ask on the forums, many of the replies are simply "just reinstall Windows". So they just do a reinstall everytime as a early fix rather than as a last resort, and partitioning it makes it so easy to do.

[@johnmay9598]

So... -Upgrade ram -Add second (NVME) storage drive -Remap keyboard ... There simply has to be a way to extract more performance out of that CPU. With those changes, you've got a pretty good stand in for the duo.

[@piersonm5574]

The ram isn't even running at the rated speed of 2666, let alone the advertised speed. I don't even think the bios supports xmp

[@johnmay9598]

@@piersonm5574 The BIOS really does appear to be the main thing standing in the way of this being a really salvageable product for people who thought the Duo was a cool idea but weren't willing to pay the exorbitant MSRP for a cool idea. 2666 isn't terrible; I'm typing this on a 2019 Razer Blade with 2666 DDR4.

[@piersonm5574]

@John May yeah 2666 is great, my laptop is still rocking ddr3 lol. What I'm saying is I don't think upgrading ram will help because it will always run at 2400mhz

[@7evive]

@@johnmay9598 the thing is that yout laptop must have a dedicated GPU. Since this run on integrated graphics it's more dependent of ram speeds. In a laptop with integrated graphics DDR5 makes a noticeable improvement to the igpu

[@johnmay9598]

@@7evive We're talking about a ~$750 price point, and a non-gaming laptop. You're... not getting DDR5.

[@bobgill3424]

Just had a stroke 3 days ago you guys and these videos are keeping my spirits up.great work guys

[@nathenieldanta9731]

Sorry to hear that , hope you had recovery plan on the way

[@dragon2knight]

Methinks the editors got that raise, it's just amazing the work they've been doing on here lately! I might just want to try this one out--it looks like fun!

[@B-rad1]

I love that the editors add as much personality to the video as the presenters do. It's such a cohesive operation.

[@HenryTitor]

The reason for multi-partition is the force of habit from old time Windows which people got used to using C:/ drive for system installation. D:/ drive for personal data such as documents, and , sometimes, E:/ drive for either games, entertainment, or other softwares. This is probably the result of sudden shift of OS from Unix to Windows. But I’m too young to know that, and this was the explanation given to me from older tech people in China

[@norfolkngood8960]

Kinda I still do it from those days but that's because as a technician I've had to deal with so many unbootable windows installs and repair takes a longer if you have to backup their data first. Partition the drive redirect my document folders to second partition and then if you need to wipe you can do so with no data loss and no backups first. It's not so bad now windows has gotten better and with the PE environment now but it still stands I've still had a corrupted 10 install that saved the client time by a wipe and reload than spending time trying to figure out a fix

[@jeehaa7099]

I like to backup different partitions at different times to different external backup drives. Therefore I use D: for Windows, D: for small important files like docs and photos, E: for big projects, F: for music and G: for less important stuff like downloads. This is also great for making everything neat and organized. Some of theses drives are external and apart from the smaller C: all others are 1TB or bigger.

[@jeehaa7099]

I mean C: for Windows

[@TehKaiser]

If you do clones, a smaller partition can be useful since a smaller drive costs less for a company to salvage filrs

[@TheotanyaSama]

For the price, specs wise, it is really decent despite the lies. But for me, the keyboard is a "no-go". Beside the weird layout that I'm not a fan at all, since at work I manipulate data with a lot of numbers, the absence of a numpad is just impossible

[@EspyMelly]

It's really funny how they didn't have to lie at all, even at its actual specs it seems to be really good value, especially if they had properly coded the BIOS. You can tell the people involved in this have an ingrained scammer mentality of trying to make the most out of whatever they have no matter how much they lie about it, even when it's not really necessary. Old habits die hard.

[@coherentpanda7115]

That's Aliexpress for you. Chinese companies that have no business making laptops score a couple pallets of pre-builts from one of the 1,000 random OEM's building cheap laptops, then slap their logo on the bios, juice up the spec sheet to sell the lot quickly, and disappear overnight.

[@nedkominchev1480]

For me the reason for partitioning is to use same image for all choices of ssd - from 128 GB up to 1 TB

[@Ender_Wiggin]

That connector is called the OCulink x8. It give you external PCIe support. Mostly found in the server hardware world. Super cool to see. Wish framework did some thing similar.

[@wtfdinges]

The Heoraidy brand for the SSD isn't that strange actually. I've lived in China for a while and I've seen that brand quite often for memory related devices. I even bought one for an awefully slow PC that was controlling a measurement system and it worked fine.

[@eygs493]

lol

[@_Forsaker]

its Heoriady

[@gauntAuriga]

They still have that "power button on or near where backspace or delete should be" layout on the 2021 model of HP's Omen laptops! Huge dealbreaker IMHO.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

Had a power button on the close right edge of my old msi laptop. Very fun to try to rotate my laptop so someone else could see it and having it shut down.

[@paulzx]

5:00 Macbook has backspace in the number keys row and power button in F keys row. Stop complaining this design, Linus!

[@sliceofbread965]

These AliExpress laptop reviews have been great! Especially with their presentation. Keep em coming, maybe make a playlist if you make enough of them 👀

[@plantmc9319]

I love how Linus time stamps his own intro. That’s quality you won’t see elsewhere, you have my respect.

[@arax20]

Would love to see ltt labs talk about Linux support, especially for these more obscure devices

[@_mike]

5:35 - Not that much of a dealbreaker as it seems. People who buy a laptop like this should have some tech knowledge, so it should be fairly easy for them to remap those keys.

[@am53n8]

I don't trust aliexpress enough to make a big purchase like a laptop there, but seeing this thing I can't help but wonder how good laptops on there will be in the near future

[@foxs49er]

I almost never use the right shift key. I was a stubborn kid who refused to learn the right shift so I left shift everything. So that keyboard makes perfect sense to me (at least the sift key part).

[@werdylp]

I would really like to see you upgrading this laptop to what it should be if they wouldn’t lie and see if it is still worth the price

[@swingstylez]

The Zen Duo has Thunderbolt 3. The Duo has two similar heat pipes. One also covers the GTX chip.

[@tonylaps]

Another old school reflex of partitioning your drive is that viruses or something else infected or corrupted your filesystem so often, that you have to put your OS and files in separate partitions so you are ready to wipe out and reinstall an OS on the system partition at any time and make sure the issues are gone. Also installing a fresh OS on a partition with existing data and system did not seem like a popular option.

[@norfolkngood8960]

Exactly this, not just viruses and malware but an unbootable os the quicker fix can be wipe and reload esp for a paying client. I do this on my personal pc still to this day and redirect the my document folders to the other drive letter. I was always taught keep user data and os separate

[@iMind-Juris]

11:40 that microphone is like 5x better than the HP they showed after

[@furykillerBZ]

It still blows my mind about Linus needing the right shift key. I don't think I've ever used that key

[@Der_X_Buddne]

Common - it's like *extra* *bold* *capital* *meaty* *LETTERS* :D

[@eighthu]

yeah fr i use the left shift almost exclusively when typing 😂

[@squrrll]

If you learn proper touch-typing, you're supposed to right shift when capitalizing left hand letters.

[@MichaelLaFrance1]

I've been using keyboards for many decades, and until I watched this video, I hadn't noticed that I have NEVER used the right shift key.

[@ichijofestival2576]

@@MichaelLaFrance1 Same here, except I feel like *maybe* I use it when I capitalize a letter on the left side. Except now That I'm actually Trying it, Without exception, I Seem To use The left Shift key... Huh. Maybe it really it useless.

[@vagner995]

Partitioning the boot drive allows you to reinstall the OS without formatting all the data, only the OS partition data. Pretty common.

[@ShreddlyMaps]

Thank you for saying this. It makes me rage that they don't realize this.

[@NAKADZI]

I was surprised, too, that Linus's team hadn't told him about it. Apart from the fact that Linus himself has been a computer enthusiast for a very long time...

Re-installing the OS already preserves the data if you don't reformat, and the recovery options also allow you to keep data...

[@techno6637]

Thank you ! I am appalled I had to scroll so far to find this.

[@techno6637]

@ not for privateers or when you deal with 3-10 year old laptop. Or even with data recovery, makes so much easier if know you only have to copy D partition and got all important data.

[@kozmaz87]

Keyboards really are a dealbreaker. For example what put me off the framework laptop is that they went with the apple-clone design, which nobody asked for and they need separate top cover to fit a UK layout for example but they decided against it and they distorted the UK layout to fit the US layout cutouts...

[@castor9907]

That's rough Hopefully they make proper regional layout modules in the future, since keyboards can be deal breakers on laptops

I mean you could remap the keys... that power button though :/

[@niter43]

@ you tell Windows to ignore it, so it doesn't go to sleep when pressed. Maybe it's even possible to remap (not sure whether it's possible, probably doesn't register as key press)

[@tjl2836]

@@niter43 I have it set to do nothing cause everyone always presses it whenever they get the chance

[@alex-simpson]

Tbh this looks awesome. I'd totally buy one for general uni work/DAW usage at that price if a better BIOS flash was available.

[@aincentbeast01]

The reason for extra partition in that if you need to reinstall windows you can keep the other partition and all the data on it

[@shockracer]

I was hoping to see them fix the BIOS settings to see if it was even better the than the deal they got already!

[@Accolyte1]

It would be interesting to know if the bios has the settings to fix the performance issues.

[@teslatrooper]

on laptops the BIOS is often locked, but I would've liked to see them try atleast

[@obedchattergoon2780]

@@Accolyte1 if the bios could be fixed to fix the ram and get turbo boost, then this laptop is worth the money hands down. Yeah it has a weird backspace/shift issue but who cares. Yes the top screen is bad but you could probably swap it with something better.

[@greggv8]

I used to make a partition in the middle of the hard drive just for the swap file. That ensured it would not get fragmented and all of it was never more than halfway across the drive for quicker access.

[@alexatkin]

it wouldn't make a difference to fragmentation where it is on the drive, its a partition, it will be treated the same wherever it is. But the seek time to access it was definitely a thing.

[@DrProfNoNo]

5:30 holup.. People use right shift? (for anything other than a random shortcut/mute key

[@1.............................]

I think ingame shortcuts use that sometimes

[@Zxmviez]

15:13 squarespace 👹👹👹👹👹

[@mrv6030]

i actually have this. its actually a good product. have 64gb ram 4tb storage for an affordable price. cant complain on keyboard layout though because of the layout, it would be hefty of a price for replacement on key caps and if the keyboard is broken, its like 290 aed, though it has fast shipping but repair is not that good. yes, video camera could have been better, but the solution i have is to connect with my iphone instead for better webca, since i barely use it unless for conference.

[@Forcemaster2000]

I love when you check out these shady computers! I'd love to see you take one of these (this one maybe) and upgrade the components and see if you can improve it!

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

That PCIe connector reminds me of the Alienware proprietary external GPU setup, but I wonder if it might be Oculink since that's an actual standard and also looks similar...

[@SINERGYV1]

The Crelander is exceptional value for money despite all its shortcomings and most people don't care about CPU cores. As long as it's fast and will do the basic tasks most people do, then its a big Win. I want one.

[@DmnkRocks]

would be interesting to see what it does with a better SSD and better memory (maybe some BIOS teaking)

[@Neoxon619]

The last time I saw this form factor was when Taran did that editing competition with iJustine. But yeah, interesting that they have the RAM running slower than it should be. Would that even save costs?

[@sparkyispog]

whole comment secion is botted bruh

[@Neoxon619]

@@sparkyispog Jeez, that bad?

[@CASyHD.]

The slow ram speed is just the automatic baseline the ram will go to with no settings applied. So they just need a better bios and that would be a cool machine besides the Cheap top Panel

[@rafsh1846]

The cpu can be locked to lower clocks by bios because they cheaped on vrm that power the cpu , reducing one capacitor or mosfet on each device can save them handered of thousand dollars in mass production.

[@Respectable_Username]

4:46 Apple. Apple thinks they can put the power button where the delete key should be!

[@Dude19971]

I would love to see a follow-up video on some upgrades and a BIOS fix. Would be interesting to see how much it costs to get a steal of a Laptop

[@fallalpha23]

Same here!

[@pjrezai]

You can do a BIOS fix? I thought by saying that's how it is that they implied they couldn't reach the bios or something

[@creeperhaed1267]

1:30 funny flipped hdmi port

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

Finally, someone that uses the RIGHT SHIFT KEY! I always get this unnerving feeling when I watch keyboard reviews and the reviewer has this unused right pinky... my right shift key even has the "well used gloss" on it :D

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

You can probably unlock the UEFI firmware yourself! There are ways to extract the image, edit it and repack it... these tools can be found on various forums related to UEFI hacking!

[@bhavikn28]

Linus roasting the best webcam in a laptop LOL 12:00

[@SouthernGent44]

You guys' practical understanding of computer hardware and functionality make me wish i'd been a computer science major in college. But that was about 35 years ago and we had NO idea how pervasive computers would become.

[@sithonsithon1012]

For the price it's not too bad. I wonder if you could upgrade it. Put on a better top screen. Faster memory tweak the bios so it turbos for longer. Oh and reassign keys to their proper areas

[@obihz2415]

Well already an PCI is a pog choice, you could easily upgrade the ram and add, the bios you need a bit of knowledge but is ok

[@phr3dmcc0y]

@8:21 It uses ass wind technology...

[@CuriousTinkering]

I use a P3 Plus 4TB on my ROG Ally Linus. I trimmed a lot of plastics to fit it in. Partitioned it too. 512GB on OS stuff and the rest for Steam games. Took 4 days for me to download 140 games. When I decide to reinstall Windows, I don't have to touch the partition with my Steam games. Partitioning has its purpose. It's not just for performance in old hard disks.

[@niklav]

The partition thing is mainly for reinstalling windows whenever you feel like it. Especially in the old days where things like Ghost is used.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

what is ghost

[@Jestemkioskiem]

I wish it was really that nice in practice, but half the software doesn't even ask for a destination nowadays and installs on your windows partition. Even Microsoft software like Visual Studio does this! It asks for an installation destination, but if your Windows partition is full it doesn't get to that point and tells you you don't have enough space. Partitioning windows is never worth it in my experience, you end up with a full partition and unable to install things, having to clean it up constantly.

[@ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094]

@@vipvip-tf9rw it's a disk recovery tool.

[@michaelmiller3012]

@@vipvip-tf9rw (G)eneral (H)ardware (O)riented (S)ystem (T)ransfer. It was a software product (later purchased by Norton) that cloned drives. It was a lifesaver when working in small mom & pop computer shops back in the day.

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

Yeah, like I'm so old school that I didn't partition hard drives for efficiency, I partitioned them so if I have to reinstall Windows AGAIN then I don't lose any of my personal data because wiping a single partition is way better than wiping the entire drive. You know, back when drives had to be either master or slaves?

[@GENKI_INU]

5:05 A true gamer always has their pinky on the shift and their ring finger on the A so this isn't an issue.

[@RowanBird779]

If I'm being honest, I absolutely hate glossy LCD panels, as it makes the display harder to see if you happen to be near a light

[@Joao_Weiand]

This looks like a hidden gem if you guys try to upgrade it a bit more and try to get it to boost

[@chemicalhap]

Uh keyboard.

[@JourneysADRIFT]

@@chemicalhap uh, change the keybind.

[@henry67278]

Looks like it could be an Alienware connector

[@luharris7127]

It's impressed that Linus swinged the laptop without dropping it.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

9:25 maybe labs team can try throttlestop as well as XTU if they have the bandwidth? I’ve found XTU to be no longer that viable compared to throttlestop, even on older hardware

[@matheus.oliveira792]

yeah, I've actually got a laptop (acer predator helios 300) with that exact same cpu and throttlestop works really well, I'm able to change boost speeds and package power quite easily. XTU never worked on my laptop.

[@rimandsx]

I don't think i've ever used right shift for anything. I always use left shift.

[@SameedChowdhury]

All these comments about the right shift being useless is baffling me. Tapping left-shift + a key on the left side of the keyboard feels horrible to me. Like how do you tap 2 keys with the same hand???

[@AnEagle]

@@SameedChowdhury pinky and pointer? Basically how you sprint in any game ever

[@SameedChowdhury]

@@AnEagle Well if you read the comments or watched the video (you had an entire year) you would know that we're not talking about videogames, we're talking about typing. And proper typing form has your pointer finger on the f key.

[@AnEagle]

@@SameedChowdhury I guess I don't have proper typing form, fair enough

[@fauxcuss2]

1:30 Okay, editor. That HDMI flip is one of the funniest things I've seen all day.

[@NikErnesto]

Am I the only one who always shifts with left shift?

[@maxican5286]

nope

[@rouxlebester9158]

No

[@__________________________bub0]

Yes

[@ishaansendave]

Linus the HP Envy you guys recommended me basically shit itself and became unusable due to hinge defects, which also broke its screen. (I found the same issue with my friend's Envy too, she got it fixed though). In exchange, could you make a video about what are the good laptops on the market? For work and play? At good prices?

[@sergeaudenaert]

Nice review - i was inspired to buy one😊 - i remapped the keys with powertoys… delete is now right shift and shift backspace is now delete… works like a gem 😂

[@tremor6160]

Is it possible to remap the power button?

[@Dev-Shake]

I have literally never used the right shift key.

[@H0LDUPWAlTAMINUTE]

What I do with keys I never use is I re bind them to do something actuality useful like the right alt is re binded to minimize all windows with one press and my f8 and f9 keys are binded to volume up and down

[@setdark]

Partitioning is not for outer part of the disk for years. It's for separating system volume so you can easily format it and reinstall system without affecting other filer for sure. I'm actually surprised Linus does not know that. It's a common way for corporation computes as well, as they setup them in bulk with scripts, so they have typical system volume image to setup and the rest of the space is disk D for verious usage.

[@thwu3174]

its really easy to “unlock” the TDP for just create your own power plane from using balance to ultimate Performance, and it will boost to 5.0Ghz

[@foxboi6309]

7:48 automatic captions: "It's sex cores" mmmmkay....

[@graphicswork8221]

Man I just bought it and for $500 laptop....its the best ever for graphic designing and motion graphic so for people who are not rich like you and they can't afford the azus with $3,000 laptop I think this Chinese laptop is the great one for people who wants a great results with this investment

[@useurnaame]

Thanks for the honest review I was looking a while for one. This content maker is baught and payed for by the bigger tech brands. They can't be having people know that they can spend a fraction of the price for the same cheaply made rubbish they're charging 5 times more than they should.

[@graphicswork8221]

@@useurnaame I swear bro I bought it from China and I'm working on it and the laptop is very very amazing and the great and doing a huge work with this price this is very perfect to be honest more with you I even open Photoshop illustrator and DaVinci resolve and work smoothly with me I open like 20 tabs on Chrome and 10 on Firefox and work with me very smoothly without any hanging if you want my advice buy it for the price

[@noodlesofoodles]

@@useurnaame lmao nothing he said in the video was wrong though, they’re literally false advertising. they also says it’s a decent laptop in the video, just doesn’t have the specs they advertised

[@atherasia]

Tech tip: You can switch between laptops speaker on YT by pressing "M" buttons. It mutes the sounds without desync both players.

[@Patman494]

I don't understand people who make laptop webcam quality a sticking point. More often than not the picture is gonna be determined by your or others' internet speeds. Also, considering it's most relevant for work meetings, do you really need a high quality webcam?

[@alexgrae8226]

U should do this more. Its so fun. Your reactions are so hilarious.

[@MidKnight_Reign]

11:54 "I mean, [this webcam] is not great either" "This is one of the best webcams on a laptop, Linus" Well, that's because even the best built-in laptop webcams are still just not good enough

[@PredatoryQQmber]

7:20 Linus, the reason to partition the boot drive is to nuke Windows when it inevitably

[@sith2jedi831]

Well... it's in the name... aLIExpress...

[@SegNode]

aLIEz

[@ArthurD]

@@SegNode that's the name of Aldnoah:Zero sound track. "I say cry..."

[@aurelia_the_jelly]

@Daniel Leone Why are spammers asking for tech support in youtube comments now?

[@sith2jedi831]

@@aurelia_the_jelly its pretty weird just don’t click on anything

[@aurelia_the_jelly]

@@sith2jedi831 yeah, definitely wasn't going to, just find it interesting, do they think asking for tech support makes people more likely to click their links???

[@michaelguidice1663]

Lets upgrade the ram, storage, and CPU if possible and see what happens. Curious to know if the bios could be tweaked as well. At that price point, it may not be a bad idea to throw better ram and a better SSD at it and see what happens if the CPU could be "unlocked". Just a thought.

[@alexatkin]

They did mention the BIOS lacking the ability to change things, but would have been nice for them to show it.

[@SpeakChinglish]

Around the disk partition I wonder if it is because people in China used to partition disks because it makes reinstalling OS easier. Back in the XP days it was common to restore an older version of a backed up OS or reinstall it completely. If you keep your files and even program files in a different drive. It makes the process faster and less painful. But it is 2023 now, seriously 😁

[@doggiehowzer]

For my work laptop, I would sometimes create two partitions. One for boot and one for data. It allowed me to reformat the boot drive when it got too slow but kept my data files intact.

[@olik136]

that is basically how every PC has been set up I have ever bought