I’m Keeping the World’s Biggest TV.

[@coretex6955]

I’ve never heard of a more Linus thing than keeping a 115 inch Tv

[@BartekJuszczak]

May not have a lambo but has a bigger TV

[@BartekJuszczak]

So bright the photons can accelerate an average car faster than a lambo

[@Tophatguy_vr]

Yes

[@notme222]

"Dropping a 115 inch TV."

[@Marrow1ne]

I mean what else would he do to it? Send back to China?

[@sleev1091]

Loving that you produced and posted this video in HDR! Hope to see that more on the channel.

[@DennisSchmitz]

Same, looked great especially showcasing the 5000 nit screen :)

[@ThePeperich]

100% agree @sleev1091 and thank you LTT -> HDR both on a PC display and the iPads (which support that) looked just great! Keep it up!

[@nikkiofthevalley]

On my phone HDR completely screws up contrast in some areas. It's so dark that it's getting difficult to read the text in the graphics.

[@Matthew-.-]

Huh so that's why it looks weird. Even with good tonemapping HDR content looks bad on SDR displays and vice versa. HDR has created a mess.

[@sleev1091]

@@Matthew-.- Linus has complained in the past about not being able to upload custom tone maps to youtube, so that might be the issue. Theoretically it could be tone mapped to look exactly the same as they would have produced it in SDR

[@alilibuda]

In China, someone will call you in advance to ask you the size of the elevator (if the elevator is not big enough, they will ask the stairs, and pay extra for going up the stairs), and at the same time determine whether the installed wall or desktop is feasible. Then, about a week or two later, an installation master will contact you and arrive at the goods. He will make an appointment with you to install them at the door. There will be an unsealed minivan delivered to the door, and at the same time, 2~3 people will install them at the door. In my impression, if there is a bad point in TCL TV, you can actually ask for a replacement -form one comment on ltt cn -ps TCL also comment they plan to bring it to outside China

[@pdblouin]

I'm in Canada and my 75" TV barely fit in the elevator. Had it been 85", I would have had to take it out of the box in the building lobby. I don't think 115" would fit in my stairwell, I'd need to rent a crane to get it through my balcony.

[@MO_AIMUSIC]

They would also ask which floor you live in, if the elevator or the stairs is not suitable to transport the TV to your home, they would also need to know your windows size as they would remove your windows and using a crane truck to lift and send the TV to your designated room.

[@dtsMQG]

Old condos may have such issue. Newly build condos are fine with such size.

[@meneldal]

It's also things you are commonly asked when buying a fridge in some places. Especially Japan, has many people have a 2nd floor kitchen/living room, and very tiny stairs. It's not rare to have something to lift it and make it go through the balcony.

[@TsuyuriNagisa]

Well, according to who bought it in China, the way they bought this big tv to indoor living room is hanging it up from downstairs through balcony.

[@Oi_Mate1]

Just call it the compensator TV already

[@KalebSDay]

ya beat me to it haha

[@An_M4A3]

Nice you play astroner right?

[@Blast1314]

This man is ahead of the game

[@Babib3l3l]

💀

[@ArtoRoad]

😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@fylgjafox249]

I just want to mention that the HDR on this video hooked me better than the Thumbnail or the title. The vibrant color and contrast are amazing.

[@cooliipie]

Because thumbnails are always accurate 😮

[@azynkron]

You can't experience HDR through YT. Aren't you feeling a bit silly now?

[@arandomguy9669]

@@azynkron exactly, i was confused for a while too, coz youtube messes up the videos at any place possible. But, maybe they mean that the colors are calibrated to look more vibrant.

[@LadislausKallig]

Honestly to this day I can't really say if I watch HDR content unless I am told. Even though I do have an OLED display. Idk if it's something wrong with me, with my display or with software.

[@Julienraptor01]

I personally highly dislike the addition of the HDR, BUT This isn't really a problem with the channel, but rather with how youtube offer the video They provide no toggle for HDR which is pretty bad for me as the HDR version look extremly bad compared to the SDR version on my screen Thanks youtube for forcing me to download videos instead of just putting a F toggle in your app

[@monkeyprojects129]

you can always tell when linus is genuinely excited by a product, and it makes videos so much better

[@monkeyprojects129]

obviously i mean that he is excited about this tv

[@Fiyawerx]

right guys? guys???

[@dtsMQG]

yah. Linus should do more like that.

[@KRIS47GAMER]

You can definitely fell the nerdisim come out

[@burrfoottopknot]

Trust me Bro!

[@swimstiger]

For your dead pixel, you know that some pixels won't work properly because the liquid crystal is stuck. Then if you repeatedly play a drastically changing image in this area, the liquid crystal may work again, and you will fix your dead pixel. Sometimes heat (using a hot water bottle) can speed up the process. This won't necessarily solve your problem, but given that replacing a screen is difficult, it might be worth a try.

[@iggswanna1248]

i once did cpr to a bunch of dead pixels and they start working. i just put a piece of absorbent paper and pressed it gently with a fork (really!!) and they came back

[@enriquedossantos3283]

yeah, i had not a dead pixel, but a hot pixel in an old plasma panel (it was bright red like a laser pointer) i fixed it with a video that was many tiny colored squares changing rapidly, i left it overnight and by the next day it was fixed

[@UltimatePerfection]

I had several dead and hot (opposite of dead pixel, basically it's always "on") pixels and the image changing never worked for me. What did though, was massaging the affected area. Just make sure you do it on white background if it's a dead pixel and on black if it's a hot pixel, so that you can see when it's done and not overdo it (as too much of such massage may cause MORE dead/hot pixels).

[@moortu]

the pixel is so big, he can just get dan to replace it by hand xD

[@steel5897]

This hasn't worked for any of my dead pixels ever, for my entire life. I tried all kinds of things, and I never managed to bring a single pixel back to life.

[@_Dearex_]

Dead pixel sucks but knowing it is there is way worse than the actual defect. I bought a used 35" monitor a while ago and it has 3dead pixels next to each other. Was a little mad until I noticed I sometimes can't even find them when looking for them in a game/video 😄

[@DavydKeyes]

Ive fixed dead pixels by pressing around the screen before.. sometimes at the edge of screen, sometimes an inch away from it, sometimes a foot away from it.. wonder if the tried that

[@DimkaTsv]

Well, in my country having dead pixel on screen is regulated based on resolution and class of said screen iirc. Frankly speaking any country that follows ISO standard should have one. Monitor size doesn't matter. So... Unless it is monitor of first class, having 1 pixel is not a case for warranty replacement, sadly. So it will bother you forever. BUT, having clusters of dead pixels (more than 1 in 5x5 pixel square) is forbidden for class 2 monitors. But there can be few clusters of dead SUBpixels.

[@GameCyborgCh]

@@DavydKeyes or in this case it might be yards away from it

[@MHWGamer]

my way of dealing with it is when I notice something odd about a pixel, I don't look further and never actually check if it is really a dead pixel or just a one-time error😂 hence I am never really sure and don't have that thought of a dead pixel in mind

[@Noa15Lv]

My 1440p 31.5 has like 5-6, but there's no way you can notice them without pin-pointing out. Also, they were already like that "Out of the box" but its been like 4 years now since i grabbed that sucker under 200 Euros.

[@nerdhu9018]

According to the installer, contact Taobao customer service to turn on the engineering mode. In this mode, you can get many additional settings to solve the problems mentioned in the video.

[@emperortivurnis9161]

I'll say it again. This thing honestly is so crazy that it even looks incredible in footage, having been filmed, prcoessed, and output on to a fricken monitor like when you see OLEDs in footage

[@upload00]

It’s filmed in HDR (most of their videos aren’t)

[@Yay295]

@@upload00 I don't have an HDR monitor though, so it being filmed in HDR doesn't matter.

[@bigboicreme]

Oh I s3e

[@bigboicreme]

​@uploadoh it was a nfb5i4kc00

[@KaiSoDaM]

​@@Yay295 you phone if is not 5 years old or more should have HDR... you can try

[@bazyt1]

I remember convincing my dad to get me a 15 inch tv for my bedroom, instead of a 14 inch, back in the 80s. TV/monitor tech is *incredible* value these days (for a regular tv 😂).

[@MrDuncl]

The house I am in was the price of fifty 20" TVs When it was built in 1974

[@Bob_Smith19]

Had a 13” black and white TV for most of my childhood. It was great at the time.

[@GalenlevyPhoto]

I had a 13 inch in my room. Lol. Living room was. 20 inch Sony back in the 80s.

[@JasonZakrajsek]

@@Theunicorn2012When spam comment replies to the comment it’s copying…

[@xathridtech727]

​@@JasonZakrajsekwish reporting it helped but just make another 1000 accounts

[@adnamamedia]

It was really hard to conceptualize the sheer size of this TV until you said "every split screen player gets their own 55" tv" 😳🤯 truly insane

[@williampinnock2256]

That's absolutely bonkers and I love it. I also appreciate you doing this video in HDR, having gone for the sitting closer option with a 65inch OLED.

[@MrHeHim]

Same 😅 but i also have aura lighting software on a HTPC for perfect TV backlight and room light syncing 🎉

[@williampinnock2256]

@@MrHeHim I've got Corsair LED strips synced to the TV. :)

[@Dragonfire-c8u]

I never comment on LMG videos (because it's pretty good to me) But I must say that I REALLY ENJOYED THIS ONE!!! I hope that you give periodic updates on how well it works and how satisfied as a owner over time. Like 1,3,9,12 months. 😊

[@ivibivivgig6425]

​@HanmaHeiro its 11 thousand dollars, he's most likely gonna squeeze content out of it

[@angelodou]

@@ivibivivgig6425 Yeah, like 16 gamers, 1 Monitor or sth

[@harrasika]

​@@ivibivivgig6425 yeah. They already made a second video about it. Not a big reach to make a third one

[@drueckglueck9918]

I demand minimum a one hour video every week to hear how it is going.

[@RGBeanie]

After this, I don't want to see Linus complaining about basic stuff going "missing" to staff 😂

[@whytho1690]

😆

[@JMUDoc]

I'd love to see Linus find this in somebody's house during an AMD Upgrade.

[@AB-80X]

What does that have to do with anything? He paid for it.

[@Avruthlelbh]

@@AB-80X The comment was mostly a joke, but assuming your comment is not: there's a huge difference between a company buying something and a person buying something. Linus approved of the purchase for the company, but that doesn't mean it's his for personal use by default, hence the "This is no longer a business expense" statement.

[@matthewjalovick]

I genuinely think this is the best color graded HDR video you guys have put out. Some of the earlier ones I wasn’t too keen on. But this? This is good stuff.

[@muneeb-khan]

Agreed

[@Tophatguy_vr]

Yes

[@Dwyane1st]

The noise in these HDR videos make them pretty much unwatchable. Is it only me? I'm watching on the LG C1.

[@Dwyane1st]

Turns out this happens when the TV's HDR mode is turned on.

[@matthewjalovick]

@@Dwyane1stI don’t have any noise. Might just be that unit. I have a QN90A. Sorry man!

[@pav9978]

Holy crap, the video quality is better than some stuff on netflix and prime, hats of.

[@mataskart9894]

Yep the video was really well shot and edited, and furthermore well mastered for HDR which definitely makes it easier to see what's being talked about.

[@pav9978]

@@mataskart9894 I saw the hdr button, but i wasn´t shure what to make of it, as we all know yt does not care that much about HDR, but daaaaaaaaammn.

[@gobnujinten1933]

Old school fix was to cycle rgb onto that individual pixel and rubbing it gently whilst doing so. Usually works for stuck pixels but might work here.

[@___astro___]

this actually worked for my awd34dwf lol

[@busteraycan]

I tried that like 10 years ago for a stuck "blob" on my pc monitor. Kept the damn cycle running for almost a week with daily rub sessions with no improvement. Then a month or so later the dead zone just clicked on and ran perfectly for another 6 years... The monitor still works but its been sitting on the server pc and is turned on maybe once a month.

[@grandmoffporkins]

A dead pixel, even at that scale, is like “a splinter in your mind… driving you mad.”

[@garystinten9339]

Only if you let it be.. However... COMPENSATOR SETUP!!!!

[@Arjay404]

Hahaha, that Mario Kart split screen is amazing. We were already making jokes about our "normal" big TVs giving us the same amount of screen for each player compared to what we had in the 90s, but with this one each player has the same amount of screen as people usually have for the whole game compared to other TVs we have NOW.

[@WilliamTM]

I hope this means we’ll see more (or all?) LTT videos in HDR from now on. This looked amazingly good compared to every other video you guys make! ❤️❤️❤️

[@michaelgourvitch5323]

I really hope so, but we will see, its not their first HDR video, they had one on Cyberpunk. I am guessing it will mostly happen, when it makes sense, like for TVs and Monitors

[@mildmannered1086]

It was great on iPhone in the shower too lol

[@mrpotch]

Sadly it either makes it look dark or bright for non hdr devices like mine. KZbins gotta have a setting to fix that.

[@StatusQuo209]

They also made the CRT video on HDR as well

[@HitLuca94]

Same here, non hdr monitor and Linux looks like a bright tomato @@mrpotch

[@stevewoodyt]

I know it’s not the same thing but some of those early points are why I went for a “lesser but bigger” tv. 75 inches floods my little tv room with so much light it hurts my eyes sometimes. It’s awesome.

[@perplexedon9834]

​@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist_ Glad I wasn't there in Genesis 1, a god suddenly turning on the 34 octillion inch OLED display would be really bright on the eyes.

[@jflartner117]

meaning you went for lower specs, but as big as you could afford/fit?

[@rennscott5808]

​@perplexedon9834 probably why he waited a few days. Wanted to make sure stuff cooled down

[@Emetsys]

I guess LCD 75" instead of OLED 55/65"@@jflartner117

[@mythicalducky]

​@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist_No one is going to be converted by you quoting scripture. That's a terrible way to try to bring people into the fold

[@yohojones]

I had a stuck pixel on my first flat panel 1080p tv back in 2012. It was too much of a hassel to box up a 55" tv and drive 2 hours back to Best Buy. I can't imagine the hassel of getting this from China, installing it, and having this ruin your experience. The first video kicked me over the edge to get a 42" Sony Oled for myself. It should show up today. Thanks LLT for keeping my pockets empty. 😂

[@madmatt2024]

The sad part is, if he was actually in China then those "white glove" people probably would have swapped it out under warranty without him having to do anything other than call it in. That's service most of us can only dream of in the US. My $700 LG monitor had a power issue while under warranty and I had to box it back up and ship it across the country for service, I guess LG technicians only live in CA, not NY. Provided, the shipping label was free but now I'm without it for at least 2 weeks. If I didn't have a secondary monitor then I would have pretty much been without my PC for that amount of time. I would much rather have brought it to a local repair shop or had a tech come out.

[@stiffeification]

@@madmatt2024 That's because a guy in China makes 2$ an hour while a guy in the US makes 20$ doing this and the company employing him has also huge costs. The cost factor for someone in the us picking this up and replacing this is magnitudes higher

[@BatLB]

​@@stiffeificationTV wouldnt cost 13k either if sold in the west

[@madmatt2024]

@@stiffeification That's still not a good excuse. If a company has good design and quality control then warranty issues will be few and far between. If they have to send someone out to repair or replace a defective product, then they should eat the cost or simply factor it into everything they sell.

[@BubbleheadGX]

You lived 2 hours away from a Best Buy?

[@DougWinfield]

Couple of things about this TV: 1) The tuner supports only the China specific DTMB broadcast standard 2) It can operate at 100 to 120 or 220 to 240 volts, so no voltage converter is needed

[@ReaperUnreal]

Honestly I agree, the price is totally reasonable. In terms of $/area it's fairly competitive.

[@nickkk420]

My TV is 85 inch, cost 2gs

[@MrPaxio]

except China doesn't have same salaries. American $200 TV is probably 50 in China

[@AndrewGlitchMasterBalaschak]

​@@MrPaxiothis also isn't a Chinese review for the Chinese market

[@MindBlowerWTF]

@@AndrewGlitchMasterBalaschak but they used chinese MSRP?

[@budala1969]

That's Chinese MSRP. It would cost far more in the Western market.

[@saintkamus14]

I'm impressed, it seems your editors finally figured out how to do a proper HDR grade that doesn't have an annoyingly high APL.

[@thefaultinourpizza1513]

meanwhile me watching this on an iphone se 🤓

[@Fridelain]

Apl?

[@sebaarnio]

@@Fridelain Perhaps "Average Picture Level", so brightness?

[@Bassalicious]

@@sebaarnio Alpaca Police Legion maybe?

[@Russeljrjs]

Yes ​@@Bassalicious

[@matthewwilkins5668]

Awesome TV. It was also nice to see that this video was in HDR. I could totally understand what you meant about the brightness and how sometimes it can make you squint. When using a laptop with 1100 nits in a dark room when watching a movie or video, sometimes it does just pop out of nowhere and make you react. Also the first few minutes when you had the TV showing off content it was blasting the brightness on my end as well. Awesome experience and great content as always!

[@OfficialSamuelC]

The HDR in some of these videos are truly amazing.

[@Tophatguy_vr]

First yes

[@unicodefox]

Definately not. Just makes the video almost unwatchably dark.

[@kacarek2402]

AVGCLL is good, so is visibility. It's your screen's issues, not their grading.

[@Montisaquadeis]

@@unicodefox works perfectly on my oled based mobile devices

[@mikoajmakowski5774]

HDR seems broke on KZbin as you constantly need to have the brightness set to max on phones which kills watching anything in a darker room at night.

[@mxss115]

Wow, I don’t know what kinda editing magic y’all did to make the HDR of the TV actually come through with KZbin compression, but I can actually tell that the TV gets insanely bright.

[@Yay295]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M You do know that most people aren't watching this on an HDR monitor, right?

[@happily7514]

⁠​⁠@@Yay295most people watch youtube on mobile, and most of those screens support HDR

[@davidchidester5463]

Plenty of phones have HDR displays ​@@Yay295

[@Nighthunt01]

@@dragonicbladex7574 the kid seems to be very confused... it's not possible get the benefits of HDR on a SDR only display obviously (unless they meant you can watch still watch a HDR video, but of course it will not have any of the HDR aspects)

[@AuroraNemoia]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M If your phone has HDR, the KZbin app is definitely using it here.

[@Microtic]

Did TCL just announce this TV for North America market? 115QM89

[@FlyingCIRCU175]

ah yes, fellow CNET viewer/CES refresher. Once I saw the title I went "oh shit, that's Linus' TV"

[@MysteryMii]

Seems like aside from the lack of MLA (because LG has a patent for that in the US that doesn’t expire until 2025), it’s the exact same TV.

[@喵队长]

@@MysteryMii Can you show me the link or key words?

[@namco003]

I have a Samsung QLED 85" It really has me not wanting to go to the theater as the picture quality is insane. I've never seen Encanto, but watching these last videos you put out, has me wanting to test my TV with it. I lucked out and got my TV for free, as it was a sports room tv that was bad, but bad was not turning on all the time due to the something loose in the backlight, but so far, a good smack on the back in the right spot. I've only had to do this maybe three times since getting it going 8 months ago

[@Foxtrot6624]

Encanto was the first film I watched on my MacBook when I got it and the first think I watched on my Oled TV when I got that too. Perfect film to highlight how good a screen can be these days.

[@MrPaxio]

thats funny, my samsung has the same issue but its a small TV

[@motherurck7542]

A lot of Samsung TVs have that problem. My 49"QLED TV in the faimly room has a similar problem. Unplugging it, waiting for a few seconds then replugging it in. Then it turns on.

[@realityhittingme]

Watch super Mario as well. Looks great on oled

[@BoYangTang]

17:17 The TCL and Samsung are actually almost identical cost at about $1.95 per square inch. A 115 inch diagonal is 5651 square inches area and a 98 inch diagonal is 4104 square inches area.

[@avishjha4030]

They still haven't improved with the numbers. This was so basic. Still missed it.

[@alexandrefauchon7755]

They did it per DIAGONAL inch

[@budala1969]

That's Chinese MSRP. It would cost far more in the Western market.

[@wikpil]

​@@avishjha4030 cost of inch squere might be better, but pepole mosty think in diagonal inches... Lets not act that it was a mistake and we should shame ltt fot it.

[@scottmcqueen3964]

@@wikpil Yea, but in terms of manufacturing cost, you would look at surface area, which was the context of the segment. So a bit of a flaw, but not egregious and easily made. Most don't understand how the diagonal size actually scales the overall width and height.

[@shadowgamer356]

I love the fact he was playing Crosscode in one of the clips. Underrated game, I love it.

[@ngelemental2274]

THIS LOOKS AMAZING TO WATCH IN HDR YALL GOTTA DO THIS MORE OFTEN

[@dtmm122]

real

[@walkinmn]

This thing is a good use case for Rollable screens, even if it doesn't unroll on its own like the LG one, if they could ship it on a roll and you unroll it at home and mount the supports (that would need to include) it could be a game changer for shipping TVs not only of this extreme size but even for the typical 40 to 65 inches TVs most people can afford, this could be potentially be a big deal for shipping costs. Of course, then you need to come up with ways of making the mounting and support foolproof but maybe it would be worth it (as long as flexible screens can compete with regular screens in price and features).

[@dippst]

i dont foresee rollable screens ever being mainstream in the consumer market, at least not in sub 70" sizes. the cost vs performance will never compare to rigid displays. the backlighting alone limits that possibility. i could see them making 100"+ attainable for the average person, assuming they have the space for one, but in the current mainstream sizes the trade-offs arent likely to attract too many people beyond those buying the gimmick. by time the tech gets cheap enough for sale on that scale, the tech in rigid screens will be even cheaper, and probably better. the only way i see rollup screens becoming mainstream is in education or business environments. replace projectors in classrooms or offices with pull-down touchscreens is a major use case imo.

[@walkinmn]

@@dippst I might have been too optimistic mentioning 40-65 inch TVs but there's a possibility that in the 70- 85 (and beyond) sizes, a rollable Oled TV could become just as attainable or even cheaper than the regular ones, part of it is that the manufacturer would have a pretty good reason to develop them just for the simplicity and savings on shipping and yes, oleds are less bright than LCDs but they're getting brighter and for some use cases like a theatre room or even just a semi dark room it still has the big advantages oled brings to the table. Other possibility is the route Samsung took with their microled panels like those in "The Wall" but the price of that panel is so high that unless Samsung can bring the price way way down, a rollable oled has a bigger chance to get into the mainstream.

[@dippst]

@@walkinmn i dont doubt we'll see small(ish) roll tvs (we need a better term for those lol), i just dont see them going mainstream. foldable and multi-panel seem more viable. seamless multi-panel makes more sense to me. imagine, a 5" diag panel that can be arranged into any aspect ratio and in limitless quantities. pick the ppi for your target resolution and size, and if you have a dead pixel, swap out that one panel rather than trashing the whole 60+" screen. plus you could adjust the size as you see fit. foldable tvs would make 95" and larger way easier to transport because you wouldn't need to accommodate a 7+ foot long base. with one fold on each axis, you'd package a 95" tv in a box the same vertical and horizontal size as a 50", just a bit deeper. a 65" would fit in the box of a large microwave.

[@MoA-Reload...]

Used to work in a Sony Centre and largest TV we sold was a 70" SXRD Rear Projection and that thing was a balls to deliver and install. Weight wasn't the problem. It's the physical size of the box and being rear projection it was a fat boi too. Like when you get to the point where scratching the customers ceiling when lifting the top of the box clear is an actual concern. There's also the extra fun experience of arriving at customers house, seeing the room they want it in and have the thought of "well feck, this plum bag really wasn't listening when we said 70" TV on a big, open shop floor looks smaller than it actually is"😂

[@Hartem.X]

75 дюймов не так уж и много! У меня Стоит в комнате 6 на 6 метров и кажется маленьким. Хотел купить 98, но увидел 115 и все, теперь моя мечта 115 дюймов 😊

[@MegaJoao31]

HDR is such a difference. Hope LTT starts using more HDR in its videos

[@alexphelps7042]

Im not up to date on the current state of things but atleast in the past KZbins HDR has been genrally regarded as "borked"

[@djayjp]

Especially the wider colour gamut.

[@Knee-Lew]

I think LTT has tried this years ago, and yeah… it was “borked” like @alexphelps7042 said, that they reverted to SDR again.

[@TheMythh]

so much extra work, for youtube to bung it up, i think they've done some hrd vids before, but it's generally not worth it, afaik.

[@colinstu]

Hopefully only in vids that contain examples of HDR content (and that's part of the topic of discussion). It's nice to have the effect properly demonstrated, but I find it distracting for normal vids.

[@GarethPW]

Every HDR mastered video you guys put out is a treat!

[@lao.l5880]

I've heard that you can use TCL's built-in engineering mode to solve some of the problems linus talks about, and also it looks like this TV will be available in North America in 2024

[@mtx247]

I really wish you guys talked about the built in audio. I saw in the unboxing that it appeared to have a built-in subwoofer. The only other TV I recall doing that to that level was Bose back in 2012. Sure, a user would use speakers but, I would have liked to see what she could do.

[@CarlosDeLosMuertes]

They kinda did, it still is pretty easily beat by any decent external system.

[@SaabUnleashed]

Think about that. A subwoofer is for low frequencies and low frequencies require a larger speaker to move more air. In a thin TV where space is very limited, bass will never be that good, it's simply not physically possible. And if it was possible to fit in a actual size woofer, imagine the vibration in the TV

[@markfehrle]

I bought the Hisense 100u8k and it has a built in subwoofer.

[@SaabUnleashed]

@@markfehrle so do a lot of TVs and even laptops. But the point is, they are not capable of producing good quality low frequency audio due to the size of the speaker and cabinet inside the TV.

[@ErnieZee]

Honestly I don't understand why did they even bother with putting speakers into this tv at all. Like there's 0 chance someone buys this tv and doesn't have a home theater setup.

[@marklangridge2734]

I really appreciate Linus helping us viewers weigh the pros and cons of this TV that NO-ONE CAN BUY EVEN IF THEY CAN AFFORD IT.

[@MrCodyminner]

Obviously you can buy it if you can afford it, otherwise ltt wouldn't have one. If you can afford 11k for a TV, it's likely you can afford the shipping cost from China. You can afford the customs tax that it'll have. You can afford to hire someone in China to buy the tv for you, set up a phone number for you to use, and be the person the TV is originally shipped to. People with real money will go through that hassle. However, people who have to make a decision as to whether or not to spend an extra 5k or so in extra cost can't really afford a 11k TV in the first place.

[@Tehkezah]

@@MrCodyminner and LTT also likely has viewers from china, so for them it's a completely different deal as well.

[@npw9648]

@@TehkezahThey've got a Chinese channel on bilibili so

[@leonro]

​@@TehkezahForget viewers, they have an entire team of paid translators who publish their videos in China! Also, certain people on the channel are of Chinese descent (incl. Linus's wife), so they must have relatives who live over there.

[@chrisaguirre5988]

The technology used here can trickle down into more budget-friendly options in the future. This is like peeking into what will be coming next. Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean the technology isn't cool. It is cool, and I am glad they are talking about it.

[@ZwaaiHaai]

Giving updates on how its going after a few months is great. Thanks Linus

[@donjaun540]

Thank you for a fantastic video. It was nice to see you and your family all snuggled together watching this beast of a TV. I hope TCL brings a 100" version of this for a lot less to the U.S.

[@josir1994]

1 dead pixel isn't enough to trigger warranty anyways, the threshold is usually 3-4 dark or 2 bright if I remember correctly.

[@CaffeinatedSentryGnome]

Depends on the TV or monitor. Cheap ones can be up to 5 but expensive ones, especially colour accurate mastering ones have zero dead pixel warranties

[@ChristianAlexSantiago]

This channel has outlived it's usefulness in the world. It's just commercials for things most of can't even begin to think of affording.

[@aranvella9144]

Well yeah, there's only so many GPUs and CPUs you can review and benchmark. Only so many build guides they can make, its entertainment first with the occasional informative video. Nothing wrong with that, and it is clearly working for them because people love it

[@_D_P_]

I would like to hear more about the sound system. Yeah external speakers are the way to go. But a panel that big might sound interesting resonating internally.

[@sirtimatbob]

Maybe if they thump the bass heavy enough, it'll bring the dead pixel back, lmao

[@daylen577]

2:34 my friends in the second row don't have to worry about the quality of my TV, because I don't have any friends and I don't have a second row of seats in my theater room, as I have no theater room to put a second row of seats in, lol

[@Leaf_Locke]

I like that he's giving tips on what settings to use to that one other person who bought it. What a nice guy

[@hashtagtnt]

115 is the way to go, a nice heater for those colder basements too :).

[@dcallan812]

sun tan lotion at the ready. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AkiraSieghart]

Great video, Linus! I'd love if you guys could do a comparison to HiSense's new U8K line. They have a $5000 100" Mini-LED display that also seems like a great value if you don't want to use a projector. It doesn't have quite the same brightness or dimming zones that the TCL has, but I'd still be interested to see what you and the Labs think.

[@jackhemsworth7515]

Plus a 100in 8k tv is four times the pixels of a 4k tv, which is even more upscaling to do as the tv needs to fill in 8 out every 9 pixels to make it look proper

[@KrakenGameReviews]

​@@jackhemsworth7515 U8K is the product line not the resolution I'm afraid.

[@imrf]

I just setup the 65” one and it’s very nice. Definitely worth the money.

[@med7at10]

​@@jackhemsworth7515the hisense is 4k not 8K Only the name has 8k in it

[@jason-xr9rj]

This TV can be purchased at a price at about $8500 with discounts in China according to some receipt photo shared by a customer on a Chinese website, which includes the free delivery and installation. Since that guy lives in apartment whose elevator cannot fit this TV, he spent another $200 to rent a crane to lift the TV to his unit directly from the outside of the building.

[@FlipperWolf]

This video really deserved the HDR treatment, it really gave a better idea of the capabilities of this display

[@ExcelsiorTech]

Wow that TV is amazing! One of the only advantages left for a projection system is acoustically transparent screens with all your front speakers and subs behind a baffle wall. It’s really hard to beat that kind of sound stage.

[@hyperactivetendencies7054]

I dunno my center speaker is just under my 85 inch and honestly I cannot tell that my soundstage is below my screen 95% of the time. I'm too immersed in what I'm watching to actually notice or be distracted by it.

[@ExcelsiorTech]

@@hyperactivetendencies7054 It probably sounds great, but I have three identical 4ft tall tower speakers behind my 128” acoustically transparent screen. Before that I had a regular timbre matching center that was smaller but could go under a TV and I can very much tell the difference when I switched to the matching tower for the center.

[@TheRealLink]

Insane is an understatement. Wow. Amazing video quality when filming something difficult like a TV. I had wondered how large each of those split screen Mario Kart windows were but you mentioned it. Nuts!

[@woshwbdsiashqwed]

Haven't seen Linus this genuinely excited about tech in a while.

[@Christian_Luczejko]

13:40 this is a great opportunity to make a video repairing a dead pixel in a tv. 😊

[@kelcordeen8630]

Hope to see your review on the 165" TCL miniled.

[@SterlingSanders]

Like you I’ve been loooking for a a large format tv that is comparable to the OLEDs I’ve become accustom to. I’m getting the TCL 98” Q9, solves a lot of these issues, but an extra 17” diagonal is insane. You have my envy sir.

[@WisdomBreezes-ye1ti]

If you buy 4 of the 80 inch it will be same.

[@buddypreece1716]

I love the quality of the videos these days. Every since the change things are getting better. This is Peak Linus. Proud of you guys!

[@marceloluis2677]

The personality shines through and keeps viewers coming back.

[@harborwolf22]

The fact that that price includes delivery and installation in China is pretty damn good.

[@kelseykang297]

It’s also cheaper in China with other seller(say, Jingdong, 69000 yuan) they bought it on Taobao at 79999 yuan. I guess that’s why only 2 sold on taobao.😂

[@AshishAdlakha]

It will be nice if you can add some identifier in the video or description when publishing HDR videos so that viewers can switch to HDR capable device. I think digital foundry used to do something like this in their title screen animation

[@Brotelho]

Linus has addressed this issue in a video titled "This was all a waste of money. - Why HDR Sucks on KZbin."

[@ghrocker99661]

I'm incredibly surprised by this caliber of TV coming from TCL. When I saw the price, I immediately thought to myself...definitely worth it

[@ShacleauDeveloper]

Linus on extreme tech upgrades with employees: look! This 2$ sticker is stolen from office this the logistics tag Also linus: I’m keeping this 115” 11k+ TV with the logistics tag.

[@TheXlen]

Yeah, but what are they going to do, fire him?

[@Greg1096]

I'm betting he is going to pay for it, probably mainly because the accountants would hassle him lol

[@TheXlen]

@@Greg1096 I'm not sure that the accounts care that much about something that's not even a fraction of LTT's expenses

[@keoghanwhimsically2268]

He and his wife own the company. Legally, i’s just a matter of whether they can expense it on their taxes since the company taxes roll up to their individual taxes. And he stated in the video that he’s no longer going to expense it.

[@kreuner11]

He pays fornit

[@Skiman__]

We need a theatre room tour. The final setup looks insane!

[@MrBigwat]

It was fun to see Linus excited. I have missed it.

[@I_was_a_Bullfrog]

I got a new TCL TV a couple months back and my experience has been very similar to yours. The deep blacks have surprised me, to the point that on long loading screens in games, I've been tempted to check to see if the TV was still on. Also, thankfully, my TV doesn't require a Chinese phhone number and runs Google TV.

[@zdtvcomet]

The excitement i get from this is thinking of what this tech will evolve to in about 6 years. Half the price, half the weight, half the thickness? Keep it up tech companies!

[@XIIchiron78]

An underrated feature of these giant bright TVs I didn't expect is that they basically make their own bias lighting reflecting off the walls and ceiling. Somehow the 77" G3 is more comfortable to watch than my smaller and dimmer TCL in the bedroom, at least in a dark room. Sitting closer just doesn't compare.

[@K0ALA.]

Watched this in 2160 in HDR and it looked amazing. Must look flipping worldly in person

[@dahahaka]

It's kinda weird when you consider that 20k zones is basically half of 144p resolution at 16:9... obviously you don't need pixel sized dimming zones but that's still impressively little, (not saying it needs more if it's already not noticeable)

[@Cyberguy42]

17:30 Comparing TVs cost in terms of $/diagonal inch doesn't make any sense to me. Seems to me that area is the relevant metric but the diagonal only scales with the sqrt of area. Say we have a 50" for $250 and a 100" for $550; would anyone seriously judge the 50" a better value when the 100" has 4x the screen area for only slightly more than 2x the money?

[@Sideways_Singh]

The HDR in this video is next level, finally some HDR content keep it up. Such a massive upgrade from SDR content

[@YamiGenesis]

3:15 holy shit his kids grew up

[@SilverHolland]

Found the TCL 115 unit in my local store, €24K! Looks the part for sure, the kind of depth perception I see with smaller 8K TVs.

[@karysma7386]

They started selling globally, unfortunately he bought his early from China. Not sure if we get ours with Google UI

[@CreativityNull]

0:37 I think the trade-off is that it is big, which is likely why they won't sell it outside of china (because the logistics they have in other countries that would require certain warranties is not meant for something so large.) The panel is a new technology that's hard to get scaled down to normal sizes. That tradeoff is not necessarily a negative for everyone though, obviously.

[@Felinusfish]

It's actually because they're using proprietary technology patented in countries outside of China

[@CreativityNull]

@@Felinusfish interesting. I should have thought of that angle. Thanks for the info.

[@LegionRRTX]

@@Felinusfish yeah, and by LG...

[@pauloa.7609]

​@@Felinusfishaka they stole LG's tech if I'm not mistaken.

[@joemagill4041]

Would appreciate more TCL reviews, they seem to be producing screens comparable for much lower prices than the competitors. At the very high end like this its still super expensive but the models they have that are 4k, with HDR, under £350...

[@wyrdpig]

I kinda dig the 1 on 1 vibe with linus style this had, a nice change from constant group memes and gags of every other video.

[@ProdMoar]

I love the Home Theater content, hope there’s more to come!

[@cromefire_]

Regarding why you need HDR when SDR can run at 5000nits or so (as brought in WAN show as well). For one, more TVs do support it, my Panasonic has an option called Dynamic Range Remaster, that is essentially that, it just tries to recover the HDR from the SDR by making it brighter and applying a curve to it (essentially recovering the HDR as basically everything has worked on HDR internally for years, from cameras to CGI and is then tonemapped down to SDR) and similarly a color remastering option that does the same for color gammut. Why is HDR still better then? For one HDR formats allow you to have a larger color gammut usually and 10bit, which provides brighter colors (without them just getting white) and less color banding, but also HDR (more specially: HDR10 / HDR with PQ / SMTPE ST 2086, HLG works differently) basically is, is a metadata standard. You still just get your normal video, that can be decoded by any device that supports the codec with those settings, there is an agreement in place that any HDR capable decoder/device honors, which is that it's passed through the PQ10 curve function to essentially decompress the video (for size reasons 10bit is used for storage and transfer, while much software uses 16bit linear HDR internally instead to do processing and that can also be stored in TIFF files for example) and then if you display supports HDR10 it, the display will do this internally and convert it to voltage for the actual display, while if it doesn't support HDR10, the decode will take this uncompressed form and recompress it to SDR (which looks less accurate then, but still okay). The biggest difference then is in said metadata which is inserted into the PQ electro-optical transfer function assumes that 100% brightness is always 10,000nits (I hope that was the correct constant), while SDR doesn't have that and while it usually targets 100-200nits the exact value is never known and those SDR remastering techniques basically guess it or in the case of this TV basically just setting it to 5000nits I believe. You could master SDR to 5000nits and it would look like proper HDR on this TV at maximum brightness, but it falls apart as soon as you try to play it on anything with a different peak brightness, especially since most stuff just assumes it's somewhere around 100-200nits and it would be way too dark on those devices (talking about compatibility and such...). And that's the difference right there: SDR only knows 0-100% brightness, while HDR knows 0-10,000nits, so absolute brightness and can therefore account for different brightnesses of TVs (tonemapping / rolloff, which can also be tweaked with additional HDR10 metadata). Essentially HDR is just normal video but gives some hints to the TV that tells it how bright it was originally, so the TV can decide how to properly map it to what your TV actually can manage (some thing for color gammut where HDR10 assumes the BT2020 color space as a base). I hope that clears up some confusion.

[@tannernalley9654]

Your point about SDR content not being meant for a TV this bright really comes through at 7:33 when Linus mentions the gamma tracking falls off a bit in SDR mode compared to HDR mode and gets worse when local dimming is turned off, increasing the peak brightness by almost 5x.

[@thomasphillips885]

I don't think there was any confusion, all that was said was that it still looks great in SDR. Your comment goes into quite a bit of detail, introducing some confusion of its own

[@cromefire_]

@@thomasphillips885 Well the original question posed by Linus on WAN show was something like: If SDR can reach 5000nit, why do we even still need HDR?

[@Pib31995]

The main reason you can't just watch SDR content at super bright levels is because of color banding. The PQ EOTF used for HDR tracks human contrast sensitivity thresholds much closer than the ~2.4 gamma of SDR. So you can have a much larger color volume and dynamic range without introducing banding artifacts. With SDR, there just aren't enough color values for each JND (just noticeable difference) that the human eye can recognize. The HDR formats were also a good opportunity to widen the color gamut to BT.2020 and to introduce static and dynamic metadata, which helps a lot with "creator's intent".

[@cromefire_]

@@Pib31995 Just in general HDR was a good opportunity to just fix up some stuff and add some long needed metadata.

[@LordElfa]

And Hisense just showed a TV at CES the same size as this TV with 40,000 dimmin zones and 10,000 nits of brightness.

[@lustenaderj]

How has Linus not hooked his projector into the home watercooling system for that fan noise compromise? Sounds like a pretty great way to void a warranty.

[@otacon5648]

This being available in 4K HDR looks amazing!

[@na93prepre]

I have been waiting for an affordable 115+ inch TV. I have had a $5,000 120" Black Diamond Zero Edge screen for the past 7 years in my living room, swapping out Projectors every two years or so. Right now I have a JVC NZ8, which was $15,000 and I have been hoping to stretch out my time with it, or purchase one more before being able to purchase an affordable TV. This gets me excited.

[@thatboipj]

Please keep making this hdr videos! They are great to watch with proper display

[@PunjabiBoi37]

I really appreciate this video being in HDR!!! So much easier to put what you guys are saying into perspective.

[@9.5.9.5]

they had to explain it somehow because back in the day Rockstar was roasted by literally everyone for their main protagonists like Tommy Vercetti and John Marshton not being able to swim cuz rockstar just coulddn't figure water out until GTA 4

[@E27043]

the HDR on this video looks amazing, watching Linus talk with the super bright TV in the back looks so good

[@PsRohrbaugh]

If you're using a ceiling mount projector, yes you'll always hear it. But if you're building a home theater from scratch, you can rear mount the projector in a separate room / externally ventilated cabinet (like at a movie theater) and have either a perfectly aligned cut-out for the lens, or low reflectivity glass. I've also seen similar things done with ultra short throw projectors and home theater cabinets that vent into the room behind them. In short, ceiling mount is the worst choices in terms of noise.

[@niuchajianfa6222]

and that construction cost alone is going to add $10000 to your bill

[@4RILDIGITAL]

Great job presenting both the pros and cons. It's an expensive piece of tech, but your analysis provides a thorough understanding of why.

[@jackscalibur]

On an unrelated note, Linus' kids have gotten so big! I remember when his son was like 2-3 years old and helping him build a PC in their warehouse.

[@Kirsty_McKay]

I love the follow up videos. I always enjoy a conclusion.

[@latingringo89]

Crazy to think 100+ TVs will be the norm in everyone’s living sooner than later… can’t wait to next Black Friday and see what out there!

[@Roy_1]

I don't know about that, a 60 inch TV is physically very large, do most people have room for a TV of that size?

[@latingringo89]

@@Roy_1 with people needing to leave their homes less and less for work, shopping and entertainment… I foresee a future where TVs are razor thin, light weight and cheap to a point where 100inch Tv standard in at least one room isn’t too unrealistic… who knows!

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

3:21 I see you, editor. Good to have a vote from the common man. ✊

[@zorgle201]

More HDR content please! Makes it so much easier to appreciate the TV’s capability.

[@balamouk]

TCL's C series is also deeply underrated. I have the 55C805 and it's truly wow for the price, OLED like after a few tweaks.

[@DavidFregoli]

I have a 55C835, got it last year for ~$600. I have absolutely no idea why nobody is buying these and everybody is so fixated on OLED

[@balamouk]

@@DavidFregoliexactly! a few settings from youtube videos and it looks great tbh

[@rudrarajput1791]

Just curious that: Which TV in the *World* is ON PAPERS the best TV ever, with the resolution, best display tech (oled, micro led etc), best refresh rate. In short the best specs ever existed, something TO GOOOOD to be true! Something like LG signature 8k oled.

[@jamesstringerphoto]

A TV like that is good when you've found your forever home, but I'm still going to have to move several times in the next 5-10 years so my UST projector being portable by 1 person is a real bonus.

[@Tophatguy_vr]

Yes

[@FoxxFire]

Wow, I was so completely engaged in this video that I could not believe i was at the end and 18 minutes (sans sponsor spot) had passed. This is particularly surprising considering it is a device I cannot under any circumstances purchase and install for myself. Man, I hope you guys do more videos like this in the future. It doesn't come off as rich guy flaunting whatsoever. Rather, we LOVE to see high-end products like this reviewed in such great detail compared to something like when you guys do a $200 PC build or a wish theater setup (or some roundup of crap products....who wants to see that? We have no interest in crap products...there's no fun in that). Anyway, great job LTT; please keep videos like this one coming in the future.

[@christopherwilkins4254]

TLC is releasing this to North America later this year per CES

[@FreekHoekstra]

You should measure the price per square inch or cm2 not diagonal inch. Doubling the diagonal inch quadruples the actual surface area , meaning your TV is indeed four times as big. So a 32 inch TV should be four times cheaper than a 65 inch TV