Linux 6.12, Arch Linux, Blender 4.3, Security Flaw Found & more Linux news

[@CyborgZeta]

Honestly, I think it's awesome that Firefox has managed to stick around so long. I remember discovering it in high school and thinking it was the coolest thing; browser tabs were such a simple, but amazing thing. And I agree 100% on container tabs and bookmarks. I love the way Firefox organizes my bookmarks; I can't stand the way bookmarks are organized in Chrome and Chromium-based browsers.

[@RB-xq7qh]

It’s only cause Google pays their bills to use Google search by default

[@Romactu]

Thunderbird's 20th anniversary is coming. Because when I'm using Thunderbird Mail on Ubuntu, it popped up the 20 years of Thunderbird logo.

[@bertnijhof5413]

Are you suggesting that Linux now supports pre-emptive multitasking standardly? Truly unbelievable for me, I did design a kernel with pre-emptive multitasking in 1976 for a special purpose OS for Air Traffic Control running on 16-bits minicomputers comparable to the PDP11. An ATC system would contain from 1 up to ~80 of those 16-bits minis. More than 85% was written in RTL/2, a C type language.

[@1videoshow]

No, preemptive ? They had that for a long time. REAL TIME is an other level: can PREDICT precisely WHEN and HOW LONG a task will take. This is crucial in real time applications. Predict how long a task will take. Example : if you can for sure predict a task to open the door will take at maximum 10 seconds to get you exit in a fire you are in a real time situation. If not you are not in a real time situation and maybe lose control and or worse etc.

[@levo75]

​@@1videoshowfrom what I understand, the system waits a little longer than what it expects to take to make sure the task is finished by a pre specified amount of time.

[@bertnijhof5413]

​@@1videoshow Nobody can predict the future, even a schedular can't. There is nothing more real time than to decide at each HW interrupt, which process you will start. - You start the process waiting for the interrupt, because it has a higher priority and queue the previously running process for the CPU or - You continue the previously running process, because it has a higher priority and queue the process waiting for the interrupt for the CPU. It gets slightly more complicated if both processes have the same priority, you could decide; - to go for CPU efficiency and always restart the just interrupted process or - to (re)start the process with the least usage of the CPU in the past, because probably it will free the CPU again faster (RT?). More Cores will complicate the processing, because you will have to find a free Core or compare with the least priority process running on all occupied Cores. The next 2 issues are from far after my work on kernel design. - A core with hyperthreading you could have cores running 2 threads and cores running 1 thread. I expect they avoided the issues by introducing logical cores, so each CPU-thread is treated as a separate core. - Two types of cores (hyperthreaded P-core and E-core) makes it even more complex. You could do something with priority, high priority processes have a preference for P-cores and low priority processes for E cores.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

The Linux Kernel has pre-emptive multitasking now! 🧐 GREAT!! 🙂Now I can finish building my intergalactic space cruiser, just in time for Gnorgoff's barbecue party on Bzoobneeik Prime!☺He makes the best grilled Shmignarfs, and the Knngmaar pie is pretty good too!😁😅

[@TheEricDangerous]

For months now, firefox has been released one version after the other, without us seeing what the new versions really bring. It's become incomprehensible: minor versions are released to fix bugs a few days after the release, if not the day after. So I switched to ESR to get back some peace and quiet.

[@JTCPingas]

Linux 6.12 also has optional support for QR codes during a kernel panic. Which i think thats pretty useful.

[@ShaunakHub]

Its really nice to see someone apart from me who still uses FF as his/her main browser 🙂. I will keep using it unless they decide to use the Chromium engine, because I think having Chromium as the only engine available will be a really bad idea...

[@ruthsmith1472]

Very good point.

[@javabeanz8549]

I was there for Phoenix and Firebird, even the betas were a big improvement over Internet Explorer. I mostly used Windows before 2006, though my one laptop used an Ubuntu install that you could launch into Ubuntu from Windows, and didn't have to worry about an Windows update wrecking a dual boot setup. Firefox in Linux was a great improvement as well.

[@ShyGhosti]

Been on Arch for 18 days here! I previously used Nobara for 8 days before I switched to Arch. I'm a "new user" and I'm doing quite well with Arch Linux.

[@sharkuel]

Arch as long as you don't fiddle too much with your config files and use the AUR only when you don't have the option available on the repos, you system should b quite stable. At this point I have my Arch system basically set and forget. Do my work on the computer, do some gaming, etc. Absolutely fantastic. PS: Th chaotic-AUR and the CachyOS repos are a godsend.

[@michael_tunnell]

Are you using Arch or a derivative of Arch? Do you consider yourself a tinker or a “normal everyday user”? The term beginner and new user are different. I think I said beginners in the video but if not I’m referring to people who are not overly technical. Edit: I checked, I said "beginners" not "new users" and the term "beginners" is an indicator of skill being very low like novice tier. "New users" could be all kinds of skill level because when I first tried Arch many years ago I was not new to Linux but was new to Arch. That's why I say "beginners" not "new users".

[@UncleSpellbinder]

Definitely going to look into Zrythm. Thanks for the updates!

[@YetiMusicCity]

I've been using LMMS , and it's complicated , I will look into Zrythm as well 💯

[@zadtheinhaler]

Same here, gonna give it a go soon!

[@UncleSpellbinder]

@@zadtheinhaler Errors installing on Arch through AUR for me. Gonna look into installing manually... wish me luck.

[@RonnieRedd]

Blender has been awesome for quite some time!!!

[@MnemonicCarrier]

I love Firefox, but I fear it's gonna suffer a slow and painful death. Firefox is the only browser I've found on Linux where hardware acceleration works for video playback on AMD GPUs. The scrolling is also (nearly) pixel perfect, and I love the "fling" effect (that has existed on MacOS's Safari for quite a while now). Such a shame the Mozilla foundation was way too "top-heavy" (i.e. too many "corporates" milking the gravy train). All of that many should have gone to devs instead of huge management salaries and golden handshakes.

[@tanujrana8490]

from what i know, amd gpus work on all browsers, nvidia is firefox exclusive

[@MnemonicCarrier]

@@tanujrana8490 Not sure what you're saying here. Of course FF works on AMD GPUs, but hardware accelerated video decoding on Chromium based browsers does not. It was disabled in Chromium based browsers on Linux intentionally a few years back. This can be confirmed by running nvtop while playing a KZbin video. There's plenty of posts out there about it.

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

@MnemonicCarrier Is that true for Brave as well? I only have Brave and Librewolf, but use almost only Brave

[@RadialTemporal]

@@MnemonicCarrier Chromium has a semi working implementation of Video decode for AMD gpu's for about 6months now. Not as good as Firefox but its getting there. They are also working on Smoothscroll(actually that might be Brave)

[@royborgen]

Yes! Stop recommending Arch to new users 👏

[@stamy]

Easy Flatpak is a flatpak manager which does take care of packages updates if I am not wrong.

[@RonnieRedd]

Netscape user here!

[@MnemonicCarrier]

4:10 "...and of course thank you to everyone who contributes to the kernel..." (except if you're a Russian) 😉

[@dono42]

I think the estimated time for Arch install were a little high. The manual way to install Arch is generally about an hour. With the ArchInstall it can easily be under 10 minutes.

[@michael_tunnell]

I’m talking about people installing it for the first time, once someone is used to doing something the speed stats become skewed

[@MrPunkassfuck]

Yeah. First time I installed Arch, I watched a few video-guides, all of them over an hour long. To see what was vital to install. Of course one guide missed installing NTP. Bad. First time I installed Arch from command-line the whole way, took like an hour. First time I tried the Archinstall script, I was done within 10 minutes. Now I can do it in 5 minutes or less. Any Arch-based distro gets installed within 10 minutes for me. It is superfast. Anything else takes like 30 minutes because the installers are so slow, downloads are slow, updates are slow. Where I have no input. OpenSUSE has been notoriously slow for me, between 45 minutes and over an hour. If it takes more than an hour, I am wiping it and installing something else.

[@VallThyo]

@@michael_tunnell fair enough, I remember the first time I installed taking 2h+ because I was busy reading all the commands and that they did before typing them in

[@Cool-Game-Dev]

I switched from widnows to Linux a month or so ago, the install took me like 2-3 hours

[@red007master2]

Hour? Bro are you typing with on-screen keyboard?

[@dontwanttousemyrealnametol6765]

Could the preempt enabled realtime kernel be used on waveform generators for driving industrial inkjet printer heads? I don't know much about this. It would be cool to make an open hardware inkjet printer that runs linux for consumers, wouldn't it?

[@MDFireX5]

Hi Michael, I couldn't find the link to the firefox video you were talking about in the description.

[@michael_tunnell]

Dang it! I forgot to add it, doing that now. Thanks!

[@johnbovay8353]

Zrythm can also be found in Linux Mint 22 Cinnamon's Software Manager.

[@CaraesNaur]

20 years of Firefox. 15 years of Firefox usage share decline corresponding to Mozilla's complete inability to make good business decisions.

[@waynebickell1793]

I remember when VLC made the switch from GTK to QT. I was surprised at first. Do people really recommend Arch to beginners? Excuse me while I bang my head on my desk! Wasn't Firefox previously Netscape Navigator. I used that by default on OS/2 Warp.

[@DefCantGame]

warehouse sounds nice but it just takes one command to install sudo apt install gnome-software-plugin-flatpak which has update features

[@michael_tunnell]

Ubuntu doesn’t come with GNOME Software, this also has to be installed and it’s a pretty heavy app for just managing Flatpaks. It’s fine for sure though. It’s a shame that Ubuntu doesn’t offer real Flatpak support in their App Center

[@LilaHikes]

17:15 Netscape was the de-facto browser in the mid 90's and it supported Linux. Netscape eventually made their browser open-source and then established the Mozilla Foundation in the early 2000's which gave birth to FireFox. So yeah, Linux had an _option,_ albeit only one. But it was the best option. Even on Windows Netscape was better than i.e.

[@rhekman]

Before Firefox 1.0, there was Phoenix, which Mozilla renamed because of a conflict with the BIOS maker, then renamed AGAIN from Firebird because of an existing database project with that name. I remember using Mozilla Suite before Firefox. It was the direct follow on from Netscape Navigator when Netscape code was made Open Source, and the user interface was rewritten in XML User-Interface Language - XUL. I also seem to recall many Linux distros using the name "Seamonkey", I think because that was the internal Mozilla codename, but not trademarked by Mozilla Foundation.

[@jeech-bn5yl]

I'm happy for the archinstall script, it reminds me of the old manjaro TUI install, but on actual arch instead of a lackluster clone.

[@karishaffer]

Some of us use it for audio we need rt kernel been using rt for quit awhile such as the liquorix kernel 😊

[@michael_tunnell]

yea, those are great for people who want to switch stuff out like that but having it in mainline introduces it to a larger audience such as industry specific stuff

[@tridens6708]

Before Firefox I used Netscape Firefox is dying slow and Painfull 😢

[@1234enzor]

Funny how you talk about firefox for linux 20 years ago, back then Linux was a mess, system updates could break the system so much that only a reformat and complete reinstall of os no tty access, funny how things change, still today system updates can break the holy system but it has gotten better.

[@MarkConstable]

Arch Linux for beginners = CachyOS w/ Calamares (inc bonus ZFS option)

[@ruthsmith1472]

Thanks for the tip!

[@ellertone1412]

Informative🤗

[@two_motion]

Wow! Installing Arch in under an hour...

[@BarafuAlbino]

Zrythm part is misleading. They only support Linux-VST3 which is a one-legged unicorn. Every other Linux DAW supports it too. Windows VST3, which 99.9% of plugins are, is not directly supported by zrythm. You still need a weird contraption out of Wine and Pipewire

[@michael_tunnell]

oh that's a bummer but thanks for sharing that info. I will make a note of it for future coverage

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Although I wouldn't recommend Arch to beginners, when I switched to Linux I went straight for arch.🤓 After having tried Linux many times over the years and failed🥵, or just had too many unfamiliar problems, and little time to deal with them, and having read all about distro's and more on my mission to escape Windows, I knew that if I took the easy rout going in, as I always had in the past, I may never get around to understanding and getting into the details until I have to because something broke, and then it's much harder to deal with, add it always seems to happen at the worse possible time. I did although try arch based distros with installers, because "The Arch way" is not a great idea for installations, where one should expect to get a well running system easily, but once installed and in use, then it's great to gain the knowledge and understanding of booting into a terminal, performing maintenance and what not. It's also easier to learn about an OS while using it, rather than trying to figure it all out on a different one, only to find once you install it that things have changed...

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

Or find use Linux Mint and avoid PTSD lol

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@averdadeeumaso4003 Speak for yourself! Linux Mint is too much like windows, and I hated it!

[@tmendoza6]

Linux news baby!

[@czanderrr]

I like how Arch added a quick way to install like a week after I (a somewhat beginner) went with EndeavourOS to see what Arch was all about without having to deal with that install lol

[@michael_tunnell]

It’s still not quick though for beginners. It’s faster than it used to be but it’s still a lot. I don’t think beginners should even bother with arch in general because the potential cons are bigger than the pros in my opinion

[@czanderrr]

@@michael_tunnell that's probably true. I've only been using it on a completely disposable PC without any personal data so I'm totally fine with the worst happening

[@willi1978]

arch install was available for a while now. i also don't like to spend hours on just installing an os.

[@hiru92]

​manual install recommended if do not want wipe whole drive or install like eos, manjaro ​@@willi1978

[@wise-succubin]

i like that smash button

[@S.M_Gaming.]

Zrythem vs LMMS VS Armour

[@1videoshow]

Pre-emptive ? They had that for a long time. REAL TIME is an other level: can PREDICT precisely WHEN and HOW LONG a task will take. This is crucial in real time applications. Predict how long a task will take. Example : if you can for sure predict a task to open the door will take at maximum 10 seconds to get you exit in a fire you are in a real time situation. If not you are not in a real time situation and maybe lose control and or worse etc.

[@1videoshow]

Real time does not mean faster. It means predicable. Based on that you can COUNT ON real time tasks because they are critical to do a task in a well defined time frame. 10 seconds (open exit door), in EXACTLY 2 years (to control space crafts) or 1 pico second. Etc all is real time. Every EXACTLY 1.5 seconds a machine fill a bottle with water. It must be real time. Multiplying that by number how many in 24 hours you get exactly the numbers of bottles filled up within 24 hour time frame. That’s real time.

[@1videoshow]

To give a very simple real time example: you know when you need to go to the toilet because of an interrupt in your nerve system that tells your brain it’s time to go to the toilet. It you actually do it or not and when it’s up to you. But the interrupt MUST be signaling that you must take action very soon else …. 😂

[@michael_tunnell]

I am not sure if you are trying to correct me or not because I addressed all of this. I talked about preemptive and real time and I also talked about how it is about reliability and predictability. I even gave examples of critical systems and why they need this.

[@1videoshow]

@@michael_tunnell no, just a general answer to questions because many misunderstandings from viewer so they can see it right on the top :) I can not answer to 10+ ppl so everything is OK and thanks for your work.

[@michael_tunnell]

Oh okay, gotcha, sounds good! Thanks for adding the context.

[@BottleOfCoke]

ChatGPT makes Arch easy

[@JohnSmith-lc1ml]

arch never took a day to install. its 30mins to follow the wiki

[@michael_tunnell]

What are you basing the install speed on? Are you referring to yourself or experience of others? Are you referring to current install process or the Arch Way?

[@5ergius]

Ich empfehle Arch für Anfänger, aber nicht für Wine oder Adobe daruf zu instalieren. Sondern einfach mal seinen eigenen Terminal einzurichten oder sich mit dem Editor vertraut zu machen. für 100€ bekommt man eine sichere Betriebsumgebung für Passwörter und kann etwas lernen, eingenen Server aufsetzen oder ne Cloud... Und wieso sollte ich jemanden anders etwas empfehlen, was ich selbst abgewählt habe? 😂😂 Macht gar-kein sinn und währe so von Oben reab. (ichkann das zwar aber für dich ist das nix 😂... Die anderen Menschen sind nicht dümmer oder unfähig das zu lernen und wenn sie sich für eine andere Linux Distribution entscheiden, dann hast du alles richtig gemacht. Du hast ihm deine Leidenschaft vermitteln können... Alles andere ist herablassend und heuchlerisch 😉 YT Algorithmus freut sich über die rege beteiligung 😎👍

[@kremata]

Arch Linux is definitely beginner friendly. A beginner will have a friend install it for them. Once installed it's the most reliable distro I've used and believe me I tried a lot. It's completely stupid and ignorant to say it's not for beginners.

[@michael_tunnell]

this is a funny comment despite your attempt to insult me because your logic is so absurd you must be joking. You think it's beginner friendly yet requires someone else to install it for others lol that is some solid logic right there

[@kremata]

@michael_tunnell Yes because everybody knows how to install Windows or Android on a phone. And you say MY logic is flawed? People come to a new computer(Windows, Mac, Chromatids, etc...) they're not the one who installed it. They just learn to use it. And BTW, installing Arch with Archinstall is not harder than installing windows. It's not because there's no GUI that's it's harder. Use your head a little bit.

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

Or just use Linux Mint and avoid PTSD

[@kremata]

@@averdadeeumaso4003 Mint is not that bad even if it's an overbloated distro. But taking time on the video to smear Arch is ridiculous. Arch is light, yes you'll have to add your own apps, how else are you going to learn? It has the biggest repo of apps and by far the best documentation. It's always up to date and very fast. As I said, claiming it's for beginners simply because the installer is not GUI is just ridiculous and insulting the intelligence of the viewers.

[@AI.Musixia]

this week i get 6.12.5 last week was 6.12 for me

[@michael_tunnell]

I release TWIL on Saturdays and the kernel comes out on Sundays, so week delay happens every time unfortunately

[@aesculetum]

Installing I Use Arch, Btw is hard?!

[@k1logr4m51]

Tbh I think the best Arch installer is EndeavourOS lmao.

[@michael_tunnell]

I think EndeavourOS is great but it’s not an installer to arch, it’s a separate distro based on arch

[@ardayazar5705]

Are you sure you are referring to Arch, not Gentoo, when you say it used to take a day? Arch never took a day, doing everything manually while referring to the installation guide should take no more than an hour even for beginners, and doing things by heart takes like 15 minutes tops.

[@michael_tunnell]

What do you classify as a "beginner"? To me someone very technical is not a "beginner". The problem with these terms is they are ambiguous. Let's say someone hears all the hype of Arch and they dont know any better and have never used Linux before and have no frame of reference. There is no chance that the Arch wiki was even remotely suitable for them. This is why there are so many third party guides for installing Arch and so many videos for that, the wiki is simply not sufficient for that kind of user. Yes, they are not trying to get those kinds of users and say that specifically but that's the downside of hype. So yea, it never took a day for you but that doesnt mean your experience is the same as everyone. It took me an hour or so the first time but there are some people who will take much longer just based on level of experience.

[@ZoneProduction448]

10:29 🤣🤣🤣

[@tridens6708]

Mozilla had ruined Firefox 😢

[@alan_core]

Archinstall is always broken...when I need to install Arch I do it by hand like in the old days

[@SecureSnowball]

How often you install Arch?

[@Cappsy]

Daying that thr Arch installed takes anyone an hour is actually insane, I'm sorry

[@michael_tunnell]

How so?

[@Cappsy]

@michael_tunnell it takes as long as it takes to answer the standard question every installer asks you, which is maybe 10 minutes. I think the most complicated one might be partitions but it has the same 'pick this drive and go' option even the most beginner friendly distro does. The only extra time it takes is downloading all the packages fresh once you press go.

[@michael_tunnell]

Okay, so to clarify something, I said "under an hour" which 10 minutes is in fact under an hour. It's more than 10 minutes because downloading the packages takes more than that especially depending on the configuration of what all is chosen during install. I was saying "under an hour" as a joke compared to the day it typically took for someone's first attempt.

[@Walker956]

love the timestamps. the french guy doesnt do them. its annoying.

[@SecureSnowball]

The Linux Experiment? He does but didn't do it in the last video

[@Walker956]

firefox still havnt fixed their side scrolling bs. i still hate their shitty browser. unusable for somebody who has 300 + tabs open at all times. also you cant search tabs in a easy way like you can in opera. Opera really is the best browser. really love how workspaces work in opera as well. so you can have one for stocks. one for youtube. one for research. etc etc. cleans your tabs up alot.

[@michael_tunnell]

workspaces is really cool and the Firefox fork, Zen Browser has those. I like that a lot. I will say though that you can search Tabs in Firefox. You can put ( % ) asterisk in the address bar then press space and that searches tabs. Why do you need 300 tabs at all times? It doesnt sound humanly possible to have so many tabs open because efficiency suggests theres no way to use them all every day. If those tabs were bookmarks how would that be less efficient?

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Sorry, but Ardour does all of those formats, and has for a while! Too much old and no longer true info out there people just take as current. Not saying Zrythm isn't good (never tried it), but just felt it needed to be said. The only plugin support it doesn't have in any good way is for proprietary plugins made for Windows/Mac only, with dongles, shitty licenses, spyware... and I bet that still holds true for Zrythm, since it's a Linux wide thing, and well I am all for it, because I want to do stuff with software without it doing stuff to me and my data, so stop crying, because if you are willing to tolerate all that, then there's no need to switch to Linux in the first place! And no, the few missing features Linux alternative software's may have are much more tolerable than the frustration of trying to hack the intruders and abusers out of your system without breaking all kinds of stuff, dealing with Windows updates taking over your system and everything else that comes with it!

[@MistressIsabelle]

Does anyone else not know how decimals are pronounced? 6.12 is NOT pronounced 'six point twelve', but 'six point one two'. To illustrate the stupidity of pronouncing decimals this way, how would you pronounce 3.14159267?

[@michael_tunnell]

First, your premise is flawed. Version Numbers are not just decimals, they are a particular type of indicator. The pronunciation of decimals does not strictly apply to Version numbers JUST because they look decimals. A decimal is a fraction of a number BUT version numbers are sets of numbers separated by a period. For example, Ubuntu 24.04 and 24.10 are not subsequent releases of 24 . . . there is no 24 release. While Linux version numbers are subsequent releases they are not merely updates of a single release but rather a series of releases with an arbitrary number attached and the secondary set is just the amount of releases in that arbitrary number. Linux 6.12 is NOT 6.one-two but in fact 6.twelve because it is the 12th release of the 6.x series. Now your rudeness and condescension to call something "stupidity" when you were in fact wrong is something you need to work on yourself.

[@linuxforpunks]

Thumbnail says Arch Linux but the video is about Archinstall. Such clickbait

[@michael_tunnell]

Archinstall is an official part of Arch Linux so no it’s not clickbait

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Mozilla is going to fulfill a Middle-Ages lifespan during next year due to w0kism.

[@RealMephres]

They'd still be doing awful stuff if they were just anti-w0ke instead of w0ke. Wake up.

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

@@RealMephres Name something w0kes have done right, starting with Star wars /s.

[@Grant_S_M]

@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 woke just means empathy for RW try-hards.

[@RealMephres]

@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 The plot in Star Wars couldn't have been fixed if nothing "w0ke" was in there. Bad writing doesn't equal w0keness. Overwatch would still be a mediocre game if it only had a cast of Doom Slayer-tier guys. Get over it.