Linux Mint 21.3 vs Linux Mint 22: Can YOU tell the difference? 🍃

[@laskaofalaska]

I guess it's more of "under the hood" update. Still cool, especially the upgraded kernel

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Yes, it is. The main update is the new 24.04 Ubuntu base. Thank you for watching.

[@spreadneck2063]

New version of anything doesn't mean it will be different visually.

[@mariuspy]

Yeah, tell Apple

[@sasham4073]

i had issues with speakers on 21.3, but on 22 sprinto no working and it's mandated by my office.. finally, upon the stable 22, 6.8 kernel appeared in my 21.3 updater. installed that and now everything is fine

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Thanks for sharing your experience here. Hopefully it helps someone else.

[@brancogabriel525]

I really like how chill your voice and this video are. Thanks, mate

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Thanks man. I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

[@Bareego]

There is a big difference in speed startup of the Software Manager, you'll notice it after a reboot.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

I rebooted a number of times before the Software Manager section. Not sure.

[@coolguypravara]

Yes I confirm this improvement. I am new to Linux and installed 21.3 in June and upgraded to 22.

[@jamesmason7124]

But the real question is how do I get the sound working on my Panasonic toughbook CF-19ZA813DM laptop running linux mint 22 or any linux distro

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Here's a nice post for troubleshooting sound issues: forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=389383

[@jamesmason7124]

​@TheLinuxITGuy I got it working but only until I rebooted the laptop and noʻ sound over Bluetooth.

[@garthdryland]

14:25 package wise, v22 doesn't install all languages, so I'd say that's why v21.3 has a few more installed.

[@AmericanExpatInThePhilippines]

I'm a Win10 user. I'm thinking of switching to Linux.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Welcome to Linux. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Thanks for watching.

[@AlexanderHäggman]

Linux Mint is a great choice when going from Windows, it is easy enough to use out of the box and still gives enough of customisation if one prefer that. The biggest issue with Linux is support for proprietary software and hardware, so if you are a streamer, gamer or a musician etc.. it may give you some problems - there are ways to get around it but that requires some user skills. If you are a semi casual user that wants a solid OS with more user control Linux Mint is great

[@jimb2868]

mx 23.3 is the best trust me.

[@Otto505]

Bro microsoft from what Ive experienced started bricking some PC's who try to dual boot if you use mint 21.3. Either have to turn off secure boot or upgrade to 22

[@skf957]

I switched from W.11 to Mint 18 months ago. I haven't regretted it, and in fact give thanks daily for the best computing decision I've EVER made. My laptop is my own once more.

[@huljaxful]

I suppose 22 is the beta version, right? We are all waiting for the full version anxiously:)

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Correct. This month or early next is the prediction. Thanks for watching.

[@markjones2349]

It's been released now.

[@juergenstremmler2286]

1st the upgrade didn't work. I had to do a complete new installation 2nd all "snap programs" (e.g. Skype) could not be installed because snap was disabled by default. Took me some time to fix that.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Thanks for watching

[@legojenn]

I'm experience some severe growing pains with my 22 install. Adding Python packages doesn't work the same way that I'm used to and I'm dealing with the taskbar and codecs, but all these are trivial and I'll work them out. The best thing I can say is that I don't see much of a difference.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Someone else commented about their python struggles as well. Yea, this update was more under the hood. Thanks for watching.

[@mikesymanzig6812]

I have tried the 22 beta, but it is not ready yet (e.g. the font looks terrible). I have installed 21.3 (the Iso from Linux Mint Users, which includes the latest updates and also the kernel 6.8 from Ubuntu 24.04).

[@wilsonj4705]

I can't get 22 to run right in VMWare or on two different computers, an Acer and a Dell. Parts of the screen keeps blanking out and then it crashes. 21.3 runs fine.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Are you using Wayland or X11 sessions?

[@wilsonj4705]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Nope. Even starts having video issues during install.

[@minifix]

I can tell the difference because my Nvidia 4080 Super works on 22 beta but not on 21.3, lol

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Ha! Nice! Thanks for watching.

[@lolff1566]

is the performance of 22 wilma on older hardware improved ?

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

For older, are you using XFCE edition?

[@lolff1566]

@@TheLinuxITGuy no cinnamon but there's no major performance difference on older hardware

[@harveybc]

It doesn't look like the update is minor at best, at least at this point. It would seem a person would be updating for the sake of updating and not gaining much, if any, functionality. Considering that updates/upgrades can break things, at least at this point in time, no thanks.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Mainly the new Ubuntu 24.04 base. Thanks for watching.

[@coolguypravara]

My experience with two versions.. I installed 21.3 on my Dell XPS laptop which is fourteen years old. Everything was good except bluetooth. I was unable to connect any of my bluetooth devices like my Android phones and mice.This was the only issue with 21.3. After i installed 22 Wilma, bluetooth started working flawlessly but software manager failed to open. After I posted the issue on forums and followed expert suggestions it didn't work. All of a sudden it started working the next day lol 😃. Don't know what fixed it. After that I found two more issues, one is Nvidia native driver didn't work so I had to go with nouveau default Linux driver. Second isdue was vmware 17 failed to work because mine is an old processor. Vmware 16 also not working because of kernal modules failed to compile. I have to post in forums and get help from the experts on this. Other than these two everything else is working so far.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Check out my VMware fix. Might help you. github.com/TheLinuxITGuy/Linux-Mint-Scripts/tree/main/VMware%20Player%20Fix

[@coolguypravara]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Sure, thank you 🙂 I will try

[@coolguypravara]

@@TheLinuxITGuy I tried this fix but unfortunately it didn't work for me. When I Power on the virtual machine I am getting the below error "Version mismatch with vmmon module: expecting 410.0, got 416.0. You have an incorrect version of the 'vmmon' kernel module. Try reinstalling VMware Player."

[@Pilot_engineer_19]

If you are a Python programmer you will find pip does not work on the command line.(Not nice) Also, gTTS no longer work 7:34 s. In Linux mint virginia they work well, but not in Wilma. Wilma does seem to have faster access overall.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

I used 22 to create the Linux mint scripts. Python seemed fine. github.com/TheLinuxITGuy/Linux-Mint-Scripts

[@Pilot_engineer_19]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Python works just certain aspects like I mentioned.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@Pilot_engineer_19 I see.

[@bell5082]

if I may request, a set up linux mint for gaming guide, remove stuff you find not useful things like that?

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

That sounds like a good idea. What games would you want me to cover? Thanks for watching.

[@rohininanal5943]

​@@TheLinuxITGuyhonestly any game is fine, I'm new to Linux gaming as well and I kinda get confused about which version of wine to install etc, a video will be very helpful

[@bell5082]

Not sure what you have the ability to cover. I have been having trouble getting elden ring working. But it can be anything you want or have!

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Elden ring looks to be working. www.protondb.com/app/1245620?device=pc

[@bell5082]

@@TheLinuxITGuy I can get it to load, it just glitches out like the textures are glitchy as heck. I may be doing it wrong. Or may be my card ty though I will read the page and see if anyone else had the issue I had

[@kennethkhayyam]

currently i am think to stick with older one because it is not different on the front end, but I will must try the new one may be it give me something different

[@AlexanderHäggman]

LM22 feels more polished and responsive than 21.3 so even if it looks the same it feels better.

[@古代馬鈴薯]

I also want to know whether Cinnamon is more beautiful than GNOME 46.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Objective. The layouts are very different. Thanks for watching.

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

That's subjective and no one can answer that.

[@WalterPetrovic]

When Beta is done will 22 just normally update over the current 21.3 Mint, or will it have to be a fresh install?

[@Azure_dragon0]

After some time they will provide an option to upgrade without clean install (it was mentioned in their blog)

[@WalterPetrovic]

@@Azure_dragon0 Thanks. I tend to rush through documents due to time issues, and I miss things.

[@Azure_dragon0]

@@WalterPetrovic No worries. I actually mentioned the blog thing just as a reference, didn't mean anything else ✌️

[@WalterPetrovic]

@@Azure_dragon0 I appreciate it.

[@debeeriz]

i have been with mint since 15 and each new version bought new features, l find mint has gotten a btr boring lately. windows has shot ahead with the things it can do, and all mint is doing is changing its looks

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

I can see where you're coming from, but I think that's why most people pick Linux Mint. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

[@Afriqueleblanq]

Mint was stupid to delete KDE Plasma. They lost much support as a result.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Reallllllllly wished they’d bring this back. Running EndeavourOS + KDE atm. Thanks for watching.

[@istvantorok4819]

You can't blame anyone for putting their own work first, anyone would do that, there is no artist who would recommend someone else's work, there is no chef who would serve someone else's cooking instead of his own, so what do you expect? But by the way Cinnamon is developed way more faster than KDE and even now it is simliper by default, but can be more extended by installing spices, you can get almost as many effects and customizations as in KDE, the most difference is that in KDE all setting are grouped, in Cinnamon they are decentralized. By this way Cinnamon is less power hungry than KDE by default, you can use it even with lower hardware, but if you have enough power you can go ahead, and install spices... And note there is no KDE distro, (KDE team does not maintaining a distro) is just a stand alone DE. You may say there is also Xfce and MATE flavors, KDE why not - so KDE is a very different technology, developed with Qt Cinnamon, Xfce, MATE all are based on GTK. And Mint team is not a big company, it's a small group doing best they can.

[@istvantorok4819]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Not enough KDE using distros, what would make it better to have one more? Why is it important to have a KDE Mint?

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@istvantorok4819 I liked their KDE spin they had before. Mint team + KDE would be amazing.

[@MikeEchlinYSRD]

Instead of htop try btop

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

I've had another comment to suggest btop as well. I'll have to add it to the next video. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@John14vs6_]

Please tell me is this the beta version of Mint 22?

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Yes

[@John14vs6_]

@@TheLinuxITGuy awesome thanks for taking your time to do this video.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@John14vs6_ Absolutely. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@John14vs6_]

@@TheLinuxITGuy thanks sir. Do you know when the official Mint 22 is coming out. Thanks. I'm subscribe now

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@John14vs6_ this month or early next is the prediction. Thanks for subscribing.

[@jimb2868]

kernel in 22 dont work with anything I use for wifi, dumped it, its junk 6.8 kernel useless....went back to mx 23.3

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Have you tried Mainline?

[@jimb2868]

@@TheLinuxITGuy whats mainline.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@jimb2868 a GUI that lets you pick your kernel.

[@jimb2868]

@@TheLinuxITGuy thanks got it ...

[@Rahulchinmaydixit]

Even linux mint 30 will look the same chamges will be under the hood

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

Mint needs to start using year names as their version, Linux Mint 22 sounds outdated and actually could confuse people on which Mint is the newest.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Hmm, what about Windows 10 and 11?

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

@@TheLinuxITGuy There's only one Microsoft.. There are 100s of linux distros.... And using the year system, real easy to tell for example Linux Mint 24 is based on Ubuntu 24.04.... Linux Mint 26 would be based on Ubuntu 26.04 but the way it is now Linux Mint 23 will be based on Ubuntu 26.04... And Linux Mint 24 will be based on Ubuntu 28.04 Just makes it a tad easier.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@tenfourproductionsllc Makes sense, here's the Suggestions & Feedback forum: forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=29 Worth a post.

[@tridens6708]

Linux mint want to consentrate on Cinnamon and Debian drop Ubuntu Drop Xfc and Mate DT To much work to maintain all DT and apps😊 would be nice Bring back KDE

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Oh man LMDE + KDE. Sounds amazing.

[@michaell.8748]

if only they improved cinnamon, and used more recent kernel I would be able to use LM on my new pc, for now I'll have to stay on manjaro Great video btw

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Thank you and thanks for commenting.

[@Derpingtonshere]

Why Manjaro? Installing vanilla Arch is just as easy now. Plus no worries about outdated and broken updates.

[@Jimbo-v3m]

you can put whatever kernel you like. Im using 6.9.3 at the moment.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

@@Jimbo-v3m Mainline is great

[@Jimbo-v3m]

@@TheLinuxITGuy yes although some of later ones I was unable to use due to a few little applets that would not work But I am very happy with this latest one .... fast and works well on mint.

[@_dev_null_]

Cinnamon is the best.

[@din_ppv]

Cinnamon LMDE 6 Faye here...

[@MyouKyuubi]

@@din_ppv ? You don't use arch, so you can shut up. xD

[@din_ppv]

@@MyouKyuubi shut up your fucking mouth first...xD

[@jimb2868]

MX 23.3 beats it trust me.

[@Ari-lv8nc]

I am an end user , i see ui

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

How do you like Cinnamon?

[@hundmann_ua]

@@TheLinuxITGuy 👵🏻

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

👋

[@Ari-lv8nc]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Coming from 2024 , I'm more into more modern design

[@WololoWololo2]

Try Garuda Linux dragonized gaming its the best

[@Eric.Abraham]

The laziest developers should change the distro name from Linux Mint to Ancient Linux .

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

They take a more "Slow and steady wins the race" approach.

[@Derpingtonshere]

"Laziest devs" yet they have one of the most stable distros you can get, it is not much different from windows in appearance besides the logo(Which in todays standards whether you like it or not is considered modern). and they develop their own desktop environment. Yeah, that sounds really lazy. Would love to see you do any of that while keeping stability.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

100%

[@Jimbo-v3m]

@@Derpingtonshere ENOUGH of the "kindergarten" talk.

[@Derpingtonshere]

@@Jimbo-v3m tf are you on about?

[@szymonmordehaifinkelstein-3697]

Hmmm this same ... Theme default this same.

[@TheLinuxITGuy]

Very similar. Under the hood change mainly. Thanks for watching.

[@szymonmordehaifinkelstein-3697]

@@TheLinuxITGuy Yes, under the hood ubuntu 24.04. Thanks for comment.