Linux Mint Nightlight and Other Updates

[@flops141]

I just installed and use for first time Linux mint on my laptop!

[@nicoleking772]

Welcome Aboard

[@NotMarkKnopfler]

Welcome to the club! 🙂

[@I..cast..fireball]

I'm using mint right now!

[@config2000]

I guess I am done with distro hopping. Linux Mint has proven to be the champion of just getting everything right for me.

[@YatesNet]

Same Mint and Fedora have stood the test of time for me. That’s all.

[@alfredotango1646]

I still can't stop Distro Hopping, 😂 even though Linux Mint is fitting my needs.

[@btiphotography5292]

Same here. Linux Mint may not be as "up to date" as rolling release distros, or Cinnamon as "configurable" as KDE Plasma, but Mint Cinnamon is very stable and just lets me get on with what I need to do!

[@fabricio4794]

Linux Mint is my Champion distro,followed by Fedora and OpenSUSE.

[@williamsk001]

I ran Mint with Cinnamon for three years, but I've been running Manjaro with Cinnamon for over 6 months now and think I'm likely to stay.

[@PixelBoar]

I would not be able to use my computer if it were not for Redshift, my eyes are sensitive when things get too bright. So, it is not only the "blue light" thing that is the only main user case. For people with eye conditions Redshift and "Nightlight" are a lifesaver.

[@khaledzaki11]

Linux mint with the new theme, the blue light filter and improved Wayland might be my next default desktop environment

[@UbuntuPersonNoMint]

Still looks like crap

[@keithej2]

After 20 years of "trying" Linux distros, I'm finally daily driving Mint 22 on two of my home desktops. Took a little setup to get everything the way I like but, love it now!

[@k.b.tidwell]

I know not everybody has the time or interest in it that I do, but setting up and tweaking is fun to me lol. It feels like making something from nothing.

[@electricalbatross5797]

3:56 - "blue light keeps you up" is a terrible oversimplification of the actual problem. What it DOES is actually affects the quality/depth of sleep. It's like how some people say "I can drink coffee at 10pm and sleep fine" while others struggle. Personally, I noticed the biggest difference when I bought physical blue-light blocking glasses - I started having dreams in my sleep for the first time in what felt like months and woke up feeling rested. So, no, Night Light isn't some kind of hoax or placebo. It's not as effective as glasses, but it's a good step.

[@oraz.]

I've never heard anything about it affecting sleep quality, but it does suppress melatonin which basically keeps you up but moreso shifts your sleep phase later. That's why light therapy is the cornerstone of circadian sleep health.

[@HAL9010-sv1gh]

Agree with you 100%, here👍! As a relatively new Linux Mint user, the addition of 'Nightlight' will be a very much appreciated addition to the whole LM experience. In the enforced absence of 'Redshift' (from LM 22 onwards), we definitely DO need something like 'Nightlight', going forwards, particularly when we are at the keyboard for more than 50-60 minutes at a time (in the evenings or nighttime).

[@Winnetou17]

It's not as effective as glasses ? That's a bit weird to me. I remember seeing a local guy (pretty well-known and respected romanian physicist) doing a test with a spectrometer and finding out that the computer not emitting the light works best, by a good margin, compared to a filter that you put over a monitor, or glasses. Now, probably the quality of the glasses can differ, but the screen simply not emitting the blue light should always be the best-working solution. Unless, I'm thinking, maybe if it's a low quality one which doesn't have good color reproduction, it might have its red or green diodes also emitting blue light somehow.

[@electricalbatross5797]

@@Winnetou17 interesting, my only guess is not all screens and glasses are created equal. The benefit of the glasses is that it works for anything beyond just screens, as more people are switching to brighter LEDs to light their homes to similar effect. There are also varying levels of strength for the glasses, red tints being more effective than yellow at blocking the blue light but being far less desireable for obvious reasons. Like I said though, I can only speak from experience and it was a night and day difference between using the glasses and not using them.

[@Winnetou17]

@@electricalbatross5797 Fair point. And, yeah, glasses can still be very useful for their versatility, as they can be used to block from any source.

[@AndreaBorman]

Most desktop environments already have a night light feature built in. Both the Gnome and KDE desktops do, so does Gnome Flashback. It can be found in the display settings so there is no need to install Redshift, unless you like the Redshift features better. I have Debian Trixie with Cinnamon 6.29 which is I think an earlier version than Linux Mint's LMDE6. Which I think is Cinnamon 6.80. So I don't think Debian Cinnamon will be getting this feature any time soon. Though you can always install Redshift or another software like it if you want a night light. I don't use it myself and although it is in the Gnome and KDE settings I keep it turned off.

[@johng.4959]

Love this channel. Always good to hear concise information about one of the best operating systems out there. If mint could just build a cohesive system that worked for ex windows users, I believe you'd see a very large migration towards Linux. One of the few distros that stays true and works right out of the box

[@fabricio4794]

Linux Mint is Life,everything works.....simple,no one cant jerkcomment about it...

[@manitoba-op4jx]

best windows-alternative distro AND best zero-config distro in one. linux wouldn't be the same without mint.

[@subarutendou]

I like reduce blue light feature, not because it help me sleep, because it allow me to stair at the screen and not have headaches. I don't have this problem anymore but it help alot back when I have headaches problem from stair at any kind of screen and got headaches for few hours, sometimes a whole day.

[@k.b.tidwell]

I'll give an upvote for Cinnamon's improvements. Around the time of that update I installed MX Linux on a Thinkpad, and of course they don't have a dedicated Cinnamon spin. I installed the Cinnamon package through the MX Package Installer, and really noticed the differences! Very nice compared to the old look. I admit that at first glance I thought the MX team might have done a little customizing and that confused me since like I said, no official spin, but then I remembered the update. I feel as comfortable with my MX setup as I do with my Mint and LMDE setups. Yeah, I feel fortunate that I don't have issues with displays affecting my sleep. I keep saying a Framework will be my next laptop, but as much as I like resuscitating old tech, I doubt it will happen lol.

[@paulothx138]

Qredshift solved my night light problem.

[@kenlen8029]

I wish more big companies would make their stuff easier for regular consumers to use on Linux Mint. The time is now.

[@WR3ND]

For me the blue light is uncomfortable to look at at night, almost painfully so. I had a modem with blue LEDs on the front that were like death rays. A dimmed red-shifted screen is much nicer.

[@mchenrynick]

On the Framework Laptop site, I noticed that it doesn't mention any GPU memory on the graphics. This does matter in certain applications, like DaVinci Resolve.

[@GnirB]

The only issue I have with mint is Wayland, still need more work as its experimental and buggy, otherwise it a cool OS, I'm using Fedora kde just love it, I use laptop so the gestures important for me especially when navigating on firefox, brave or chrome with Wayland Flags enabled. So for me they have to make Wayland default as its the future Xorg not for me. I'm using Fedora gnome too on my second laptop and both kde and gnome just works fine no issues F41.

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

Eh what is the point of Wayland? Not even on the steamdeck running X11 on Linux Mint Cinnamon do I need wayland, even touchscreen works with X11

[@GnirB]

It depends on everyone's situation, I need Wayland for my daily tasks and productivity, I'm using Fedora 41 with both KDE Plasma 6.2 and Gnome47 on my second laptop, each one is smooth and gestures works fine which boost my productivity, I love linux mint dont get me wrong but Wayland is the future.

[@Thaleios]

For me, it's not so much that the blue light keeps me up but rather that it is so damned bright, even when I turn the brightness down on my laptop. I use gammasstep in hyprland and the softer colors makes it much easier to view in a completely dark room.

[@hiYouareaclown]

/bin is a place of store root commands, /usr/bin is a place of store user commands, /sbin is a place of store root system-level commands, and /usr/sbin is a place of store user system-level commands. Merging them together is too suck.

[@holyhelga]

yea manjaro has a beutiful theme for cinnamon and thats a community edition

[@holyhelga]

finally framework has scandinavian layouts but too expensive for me

[@D.von.N]

Planning to upgrade RAM in my pc, with LMDE as a main OS and Win11 in a virtual machine, on nvme. I can go up to 64GB RAM, currently having 2x8GB. Will I benefit from 64GB or is it an overkill? I am not a gamer, just a standard user that wants to have a backup Win11 system if the need comes.

[@ttrep4957]

You may not need night light but i require it. Without it i get migraines and toss around for a couple hours before getting to sleep. Not all humans are the same.

[@lideruploader6577]

Hey bro, blue light certainly does affect deep sleep and the ease of getting asleep; there are actually hundreds of studies that confirm it and it is a known fact since like 25 years ago. Please step up your research game. Congrats, you can sleep after staring at blue light all day, many of us cannot.

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

Is Webkit a backdoor trap for windows users that swapped over?

[@SandcastleDreams]

I haven't switched yet but I hope to... if my old brain can accommodate the changes. 😊 I have a question. I got some older Linux books hoping to understand the process of installing and getting used to all of this new lingo that I would have to understand. I've installed programs but never installed an OS before. I found a book on ebay, "Linux in Easy Steps" by Mike McGrath, it was published all the way back in 2006, but its illustrated and in color. It goes through everything from hardware, partions, etc. It does not cover Linux Mint. It only mentions Ubuntu, Redhat Fedora, SUSE and Mandriva. Looking at this book it seems easy enough and takes a LOT of the fear of messing it up or getting partway through the installation and setup and not being able to complete it because I don't know what the heck they are talking about; however, has Linux changed so much that this book would be totally outdated??? Anybody familiar wih the book? Or do I need to take my computer to a shop and have them install it for me? 😢

[@mojoneko8303]

I have been using Linux Mint for several years. My main frustration with it is I can't get XBMC/Kodi to work on it for the last few months. It used to work just fine up till then. It doesn't seem to be getting supported and upgraded like it used to now and just crashes to desktop or doesn't even open. I have tried using the flat pack from software manager and the stable/nightly stable builds with terminal but nothing works. Any one have a solution for this? Is there a different distro that has better support for Kodi? I've only used Mint and haven't ever tried other distro's.

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

If they are using the latest version of Kodi (and they might be), if ONLY works with Wayland/pipewire. Stupidist thing they ever did. They were supposed to roll that back, but I'm not certain it is fixed yet.

[@murraydawson8407]

​@SwitchedtoLinux wow, great info to share, thanks. I'll delay upgrading from Kodi on Win 10 to Mint for my home entertainment system.

[@mojoneko8303]

@@SwitchedtoLinux Hi thanks for the info. Is Wayland/pipewire available on the software manager? I will give that a try if I can find it. 🙂

[@mojoneko8303]

@@murraydawson8407 I have two PC's. I use my Win 10 PC for gaming that doesn't play nice with Linux and Kodi. I do everything else on my Linux Mint PC. If I can get Kodi to work on Linux Mint my Windows PC will be basically a gaming console. 🙂

[@murraydawson8407]

@@mojoneko8303 I believe Wayland is already there on Mint as an experimental feature, and you can switch to it from the login screen.

[@FcBow]

I love Redshift because it was basically the only good option to save my eyeballs in the morning, but I'll be darned if it isn't fiddly to configure. How hard is it to include a GUI?

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

Very easy in Linux Mint, use Applets and add QRedshift with the + button, then activate QRedshift, you get to change it on the toolbar icon

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

You can use Applet in Linux Mint to use Qredshift

[@averdadeeumaso4003]

It is a major reason I use Linux Mint + Cinnamon too, just for the applets

[@rey6253]

@@averdadeeumaso4003 the only problem is that redshift does not work at all

[@oraz.]

The blue light thing isn't false, It's definitely salient to night owls and people with delayed sleep phase. Light therapy is the main treatment in sleep medicine for that reason. I suspect the debunking is dubious but gained popularity for some reason.

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

We can agree to disagree but there is evidence that blue light does not matter...I even sat through a seminar on grad school from a light-sleep researcher. In his studies, it is not the wavelength of light that impacts sleep, it is the intensity of light.

[@oraz.]

@SwitchedtoLinux I think the distribution being roughly centered on blue matters in the way that sunlight has the same spectral properties so reddish light should not be a signal as much as full spectrum cool white light at night. You're right though that blue light specifically is not the point. Maybe we disagree, that's the reccomedation of decent sleep specialists I've seen including one who still do research, but I have a lifelong sleep phase problem . It's also not completely about sleep for me, by now it looks weird to have a cool spectrum to me to It's comfortable to have it on.

[@jackknight7070]

its trumpeason babyyyy

[@UbuntuPersonNoMint]

I took a crap and even it looked better than mint.