Linux vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD

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Swindles McCoop

Swindles McCoop

Жыл бұрын

This is a new format of video I'm trying. I don't really have the time or dedication to make accompanying visuals for a video this long, so it's kind of like a "podcast."
ADDENDUM: I no longer endorse the usage of FreeBSD. Not only is it bloated far beyond what I could comprehend, it's also a very volatile system. Try changing anything related to your kernel or anything involving graphics. You're gonna have a bad time. I have a video about why I left FreeBSD here: • I DISAVOW FreeBSD Usage.
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@darren537
@darren537 Жыл бұрын
not enough BSD youtubers
@oldpain7625
@oldpain7625 Жыл бұрын
Limited uses unfortunately. Unless you're a skilled developer. More developers!
@axelgenus
@axelgenus Жыл бұрын
Theorically all MacOS X users are BSD users...
@oldpain7625
@oldpain7625 Жыл бұрын
@@axelgenus And a small fraction of them even know what BSD is or ever opened the terminal.
@axelgenus
@axelgenus 11 ай бұрын
@@oldpain7625 do your research, kid. 😂
@rishirajsaikia1323
@rishirajsaikia1323 11 ай бұрын
​@@axelgenusmany Mac OS users do considers it a "just works" operating system. So, he is not wrong.
@canoshizrocks
@canoshizrocks 4 ай бұрын
"Debian doesn't have the latest packages" The point of Debian ISN'T to have the latest versions of everything. Besides that, great points!
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Extended information: I no longer endorse the usage of FreeBSD. Not only is it bloated far beyond what I could comprehend, it's also a very volatile system. Try changing anything related to your kernel or anything involving graphics. You're gonna have a bad time. I have a video about why I left FreeBSD here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/labLgqqNobuMiJY
@xslvrxslwt
@xslvrxslwt Жыл бұрын
already?😸
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
@@xslvrxslwt I recorded the video weeks ago and a lot has happened since then
@damianateiro
@damianateiro 4 ай бұрын
hahahaha bloated, make your own system xddd
@leshommesdupilly
@leshommesdupilly 3 ай бұрын
I use TempleOS, it's bloatless I just have my cpu, my memory and Jesus Christ
@ugly717
@ugly717 3 ай бұрын
What about ghostbsd?
@jaimeduncan6167
@jaimeduncan6167 Жыл бұрын
In my experience, the difficulty to find solutions to Linux problems does not apply to servers. I have found that finding solutions for Linux issues is amazingly simple.
@bufordghoons9981
@bufordghoons9981 Жыл бұрын
Hardening = Making your Linux spaghetti-system more like OpenBSD
@AnotherSkyTV
@AnotherSkyTV Жыл бұрын
Eh, kinda true (I say it as linux user, heh)
@ekimeno3061
@ekimeno3061 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the prompt to skip to 2:17 to get to the subject matter. I am new to your channel and think your growth is very cool, I also don't know enough about you yet to be able to focus on your success and like the idea of just being able to skip through that.
@matyasmarkkovacs8336
@matyasmarkkovacs8336 Жыл бұрын
Debian uses older packeges, since it's more well tested and stable, so it's one of the best choices for servers. I personally don't see the reason why it's necessary to always get the latest updates even on the smallest packages. Debian doesn't get feature updates, but security ones.
@kingivan1151
@kingivan1151 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video! Keep it up :D
@UltimusShadow.
@UltimusShadow. 10 ай бұрын
Great video veery informative Been daily driving Linux since July 2021 I use Debian Unstable as my workstation & Arch Linux for gaming I'm happy with them & they do everything I need. But lately my inner geek has been pushing me to install FreeBSD on my workstation on a 2nd SSD drive. Absolutely gonna do it.
@Misfit138x
@Misfit138x 6 ай бұрын
Small is beautiful. OpenBSD is beautiful.
@ngtube9
@ngtube9 Жыл бұрын
Nice - I am running FreeBSD since version 2.1 - more than 20 years ago. It works :-) Overall I would like more *BSD systems alive and in mind of people :-)
@RobertJohnson-lb3qz
@RobertJohnson-lb3qz 8 ай бұрын
I came across a CD of FreeBSD about 20 years ago, did a basic install,and was completely stunned at the speed and efficiency of the OS. I really liked what I saw. Compared to what I was using (and semi-forced to use since then) FreeBSD definitely is better. With all the garbage happening these days it makes the security focus is excellent. Do you know if a Yubikey or similar device can be used with *BSD? Oh, btw, I mentioned my interest in switching to *BSD at a Linux users group meeting and, surprisingly, I got a slightly angry response... Strange...
@bertnijhof5413
@bertnijhof5413 11 ай бұрын
I use FreeBSD on my backup server since FreeBSD 12.1 and I like it, but basically it provides the kind of user support in installing and maintaining the system, like Ubuntu did 10 to 15 years ago. The big advantage of FreeBSD is for me the superior support of OpenZFS. On the other hand OpenZFS on Ubuntu is also supported, but they f**ked up booting from OpenZFS. So after booting from ZFS with Ubuntu 20.04 after removing some useless snapshotting, I'm now back to ext4 for Ubuntu 22.04. However I have all my data and my ~70 VMs stored on OpenZFS, it is like running your VM from a RAM disk (L1ARC) :) :)
@CarlosSaltos
@CarlosSaltos Жыл бұрын
I like the "are you a sheep?" part ... thank you for sharing, a very valuable video !!
@r2leyser961
@r2leyser961 Жыл бұрын
I found you from the firemenu video, you make some cool stuff
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Thanks, FireMenu is one of the programs I've written that I use the most. SO covenient.
@r2leyser961
@r2leyser961 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop ikr, i use it all the time aswell, over time i adapted it a little bit and ofc changed the websites and everytime i use it I say "damn i glad I took the time to set this up"
@mooseframe6173
@mooseframe6173 5 ай бұрын
I've been dying to find this type of channel.
@zeffster2
@zeffster2 6 ай бұрын
The Linux kernel I would trust with my life. Every day of the year, and not even blink. It is the back bone of the biggest companies and running important and trivial infrastructure all around the planet - they rely on Linux for their operation on a daily basis. All the other kernels are pet projects in comparison. All of them. Pets are nice, fun and important too. Dont get me wrong, we need them also or the world would be poorer But for reliability and security. Its not even a fair comparison doing Linux to anything else. Its a fantasy game.
@defnlife1683
@defnlife1683 Жыл бұрын
You should expect more subscribers thanks to the meme power of some youtubers talking about BSDs.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I barely had 100 just a couple weeks ago, but when Mental Outlaw made that video, I gained like 300-some in just a few days and got thousands of views on my videos.
@quitting_the_internet
@quitting_the_internet Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop i belive this also has some stuff to do with twitter being bought, yt catering to them refugees. smaller channels getting boosts? comunity post just came to me around that time for no reason. same with my friend who has not uploaded in a long time and has like no subs
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
@@quitting_the_internet I guess community posts are meta or something. But the only thing I can think to post is polls for the next video.
@erdanxiloscient3666
@erdanxiloscient3666 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop community posts do boost your channel a lot from what I’ve heard. I’m also here from the luke smith and mentaloutlaw meme videos, but stayed because it’s interesting. Linux wasn’t on my radar until many popular channels popped up covering it well. Hopefully it looks like the same is happening with *bsd because it sounds cool and interesting
@defnlife1683
@defnlife1683 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop I was already interested in BSD's for a while since I started reading about ZFS and OBSD Libre SSL but it wasn't until I saw the list of creators and videos that I started to install it on my computers. BTW glad you point out artix. I think you might also enjoy Void Linux bc they use LibreSLL too.
@kenttorres9465
@kenttorres9465 Күн бұрын
Excellent vid, thank you!
@neelsb7889
@neelsb7889 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights into these 3 Operating System options... have you tried DragonFly BSD yet? If so, what are your thoughts on it - especially regarding what you like and dislike about the 3 systems discussed in this and your other related videos? From what I've read and researched about DFly it looks like it might be a good option in terms of offering more functionality and options than OpenBSD, but without many/most of the negatives that FreeBSD have...? Anyone else with DFly experiences to share / comment on? Edit: fixed typo :) Additional thoughts: How would NetBSD fit in with the pros and cons of the above "contenders"? Regarding your new views on FreeBSD: It should still be quite an improvement over many of the Linux issues...? Well, having said that, I've recently installed and started exploring Artix (using runit instead of systemd) and Peppermint (using Devuan non-systemd base) and I like what I've experienced so far with those Linux systems...
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I have not tried DragonflyBSD nor have I tried NetBSD, though I have heard that NetBSD is more fitted for desktop usage as opposed to something like OpenBSD. However, OpenBSD has lots of support and superior documentation to any other OS, so I think I'll try out NetBSD, but most likely stick to OpenBSD. I know nothing about DragonflyBSD or NetBSD aside from what was stated here. I'll try out DragonflyBSD, though I cannot guarantee that I will like it, lol.
@pavelyankouski4913
@pavelyankouski4913 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I've heard about freeBSD about 20 years ago and its still the most precious OS. I've never tried to install Linux or Unix until I became web developer, previously I was a pro gamer and 3D modeler / designer
@MitchellJBridges
@MitchellJBridges 5 ай бұрын
I wished I was you bro. I have heard of freebsd until 2021. I used Linux around 2014. I have recently ditched Linux for the most part unless it's for gaming or exclusive software.
@pavelyankouski4913
@pavelyankouski4913 5 ай бұрын
@@MitchellJBridges Well , Linux knowlege will help you further inside the Unix learning process experience, you wont be lost in a square, currently there is no way to use Unix without Linux , so nothing to lose if u have a most precious resource in Universe - Time [ U N i X ]
@GustavoMsTrashCan
@GustavoMsTrashCan Жыл бұрын
"So....what makes OpenBSD better than Linux?" "Uhh....it does not force things that I don't like and the code of cond--" Really? So you prefer to prioritize morality-related issues that an OS may bring instead of its utility and performance-related ones?
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
You completely ignored my other points. OpenBSD is a very minimalist system, which is generally what I was looking for at the time. I've since settled into OpenBSD, but may dual-boot Arch from time to time. But OpenBSD is my long-term main OS for the foreseeable future.
@tkenben
@tkenben Жыл бұрын
It's worth mentioning that morality related issues can bleed into a product's future and direction. This almost happened (possibly still happening?) with the Rust Foundation recently.
@MadsenAltamirano
@MadsenAltamirano Жыл бұрын
19:20: FreeBSD's package manager has a more specific name: pkg_ng. For "package manager: new generation." It has been a couple years since I ran FreeBSD so I'm not sure if they still use that name anymore (if it was an interrim name to let people know they updated the package manager.) Also, if I remember correctly, it is programmed in C and has a scripting interface using Lua.
@mtothem1337
@mtothem1337 Жыл бұрын
Personally i prefer multi OS / Environment setups. Maybe if Bhyve becomes more usable in the future. I wouldn't mind using it as the host.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I'm not really all too familiar with that kind of stuff. I know how to run chroots and that's about it. Would you mind explaining further in an email? I'm interested in the concept. KZbin likes to get rid of any comments that are at a certain level of sophistication, but email is obviously uncensored.
@omnikaquarius4314
@omnikaquarius4314 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by removing sophisticated content? Can you elaborate on it? Thanks
@oldpain7625
@oldpain7625 Жыл бұрын
I'm also interested in using bhve practically. I've read (some) of the documentation and understand what it does, but it would be damn helpful to find a bullet-proof guide and demonstration, TryHackMe style. If anyone out there reads this and knows a good resource, respond! Offer is open for eternity. Muahahaha
@JasonSmith-fu6oi
@JasonSmith-fu6oi 5 ай бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop he's trying to tell you that no system is the best. they all have their strengths and weaknesses. so using them all is the way to go. linux, bsd, windows and mac all have good and bad things. i use all except bsd because i dont find any particular purpose for it but i know it has some interesting concepts like jails, ZFS and bHyve. i use the other 3 because most of the world does and im a security researcher so those 3 systems apply to me. bsd is a type of niche cult like the arch, gentoo type people are. and even between them they cant even agree, all have to create 10 different bsd's. i am sure some people use it as a server because they think its more secure but nothing is 100% secure. if there is a security hole, you're done. bsd uses the same services that linux servers do. theyre using apache or nginx, ssh. if you want the latest security updates, go download the source code for whatever service you want, compile it from source and start the service. done. the reason people want to move to bsd from linux is because the linux world is a bit ridiculous. everyone comes out with their own distro, their own stupid package manager. instead of contributing to society by innovating on a solid system like slackware by making new software like the latest Virtualbox actually run on slackware or other technologies or packages FOR linux, they instead want their own wallpaper and name to get donations and most of them are using the same debian pkg mgmt and systemd. how pointless and a waste of humanity, really. i could do everything on slackware that would blow some of these cultists out of the water with their own pkg management. the slackbuilds have never failed, all build from source. and the packages are available. what more do you need? what are you looking for?
@lordofenron
@lordofenron Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't mind the "slow" packagemanager in OpenBSD, but the cpu-usage is kinda hard on my laptops. It's not as fun to browse the web as it is with other operating systems. Btw, in regards to the package manager - create a local repo and try installing/updating. It's blazingly fast.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I've moved back to OpenBSD since recording this video (I recorded like two weeks ago I think) and yeah, I don't really care about it being slow. I think 7.2 might have increased its speed or maybe because I switched to a different CDN for getting packages, but it's much faster now. I don't really do much "browsing the web" on my computer. I'm usually scripting or researching/learning, not really consooming. Sure I'll use a chan every now and again but it's not a hobby nearly as much as it used to be. How would I go about making a local package repository? And how much storage would it require?
@callisoncaffrey
@callisoncaffrey Жыл бұрын
Sure it's hard on your laptop and not just holding itself back? Try these: /etc/sysctl.conf: kern.shminfo.shmall=1572864 kern.shminfo.shmmax=1073741824 kern.shminfo.shmmni=512 kern.shminfo.shmseg=512 kern.seminfo.semmns=2048 kern.seminfo.semmni=512 kern.maxproc=16348 kern.maxfiles=32768 kern.bufcachepercent=90 kern.maxvnodes=131072 kern.somaxconn=1024 add yourself to the staff group and in /etc/login.conf change these: staff:\ :datasize-cur=1536M:\ :datasize-max=infinity:\ :maxproc-max=1024:\ :maxproc-cur=512:\ :openfiles-max=4096:\ :openfiles-cur=2048:\ :stacksize-cur=32M:\ :ignorenologin:\ :requirehome@:\ :tc=default: Those are for an 8gb ram system. Change the numbers accordingly with some simple math. I did that and no more gui freezes and nothing.
@lordofenron
@lordofenron Жыл бұрын
@@callisoncaffrey iirc the devs ask people to not use those numbers and stay with the defaults.
@callisoncaffrey
@callisoncaffrey Жыл бұрын
@@lordofenron The defaults let pidgin ui freeze regularly and firefox every once in a while. You do you of course. The devs also think forcing games and xorg packages on people is okay. And don't get me started on the design choices of pf. Not saying they aren't nice people, but I don't consider their suggestions as gospel either.
@lordofenron
@lordofenron Жыл бұрын
@@callisoncaffrey no, not gospel, but if anyone would know it would be them.
@gordonzar992
@gordonzar992 Жыл бұрын
when perl is too slow for you, then emerge had to be an absolute pain since python is like 5-10x slower
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Thankfully I never ran Gentoo on my ThinkPad so it wasn't all that slow when I used it on my PC.
@e8root
@e8root Ай бұрын
I use Gentoo and it feels like the ultimate Linux distro and it is perfect for me - I use some of its advanced features and want to learn how to configure programs I use and easily change them code-wise. Currently looking for good Linux distro for my brother and he wants something easy, stable that just works. For that I am seriously considering recommending FreeBSD. So far it made very good impression on me whether I installed it. Good balance between things just working and giving user all the advanced options they might need and have great and up-to-date documentation on top of it.
@oraclejmt
@oraclejmt 24 күн бұрын
FreeBSD is not a Linux distro.
@alipura146
@alipura146 Жыл бұрын
BSD hardware compatibility is horrible compared to linux distros. (especially printers, graphics cards, sound card)
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
As far as I know, FreeBSD has pretty good compatibility for anything that's been out for over a year. However, since I pretty much only use my ThinkPad for this kind of stuff, I've never had to deal with any problems like that, so it's not in my knowledge to speak on it.
@nelsoncoelho8909
@nelsoncoelho8909 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop Broadcom wireless cards would disagree...
@ceko887
@ceko887 4 ай бұрын
🎉j ne olú😊​@@swindlesmccoop
@irawhitejr
@irawhitejr 22 күн бұрын
decentralization is what is keeping Linux from growing, because damn as of now it's so fragmented that it's hard to pick which one is right or wrong, up to date, or out of date, also as a kind of offshoot of Linux mobile Android or Android in general suffers the same fate because so many companies are making different forks, I love linux and have been using it since 1998, but I am starting to see that maybe it's too fragmented for me. So I've recently been eyeing BSD for a bit I tried it very briefly in the late mid 2000s but it wasn't my cup of tea back then, my mind is definitely changing now though.
@synthoelectro
@synthoelectro Жыл бұрын
more people are leaving windows for freedom. I've been using linux off and on since 1998, and once tried BSD, around 2009, lately I've had my eye on it once more.
@kenneth_romero
@kenneth_romero Жыл бұрын
if you're learning C, might I suggest Zig as well? they make building c projects a lot easier to handle, and maybe they have BSD support as well? It has interop with C and the compiler can also compile C code since it just runs through the llvm. I was thinking of learning it after rust(i wanted something like c++ but not as bloated). anyways, enjoyed the ramble.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. Zig seems kind of cool but if I'm gonna learn an alt lang then I probably will learn V or something.
@kenneth_romero
@kenneth_romero Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop thanks for showing me V. looks like a cool language, tho it's still in 0.3 will def keep a tab on it tho
@bdnugget
@bdnugget Жыл бұрын
Based zigger
@gene081976
@gene081976 2 ай бұрын
OpenBSD for routers for easiest out of the box setup for firewalls/gateways/routers - if you get all the hardware compatible with it. Linux and FreeBSD are fine, but you have to do more post install steps to secure and harden it. Oddly, I think OpenBSD is more “easier” to install and be secure out of the box, and I trust it more for not having vulnerabilities out of the box. Then from a security point of view, for some reason I think FreeBSD is slightly more secure than Linux, at least a decade or so ago it was. Even though Linux is more secure than Windows, out of box, Linux had more exploitable vulnerabilities for internet facing services than BSD. - all patchable and fixable, BTW. That said, outside of scenarios where I need more security and more trust, I use Linux for everything else, behind a firewall. Like the presenter said, Linux can be secure and hardened, you just need to do a lot of steps and work to do it. Once you get started you might get frustrated to the point you might just go with OpenBSD instead. I find many Linux distro that comes hardened are also much more challenging to use than OpenBSD too, so I’d rather just go with OpenBSD. It’s more “newbie” friendly when it comes to security vs FreeBSD and Liunux (all distro). I DO USE LINUX. Just not for security scenarios. I use it for development, web services, workstation, just for everything else that is not Desktop (I use Mac/Windows for Desktop).
@dualfluidreactor
@dualfluidreactor 8 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with code of conducts. I generally just ignore them and then it's as if they don't exist.
@xslvrxslwt
@xslvrxslwt Жыл бұрын
the reason you're growing is because KZbin (probably in response to TikTok 's) algorithm changed and all we're getting recommended recently are videos with
@OkarinHououinKyouma
@OkarinHououinKyouma Жыл бұрын
Yeah, KZbin started pushing channels with less than a 1000 subs to homepage.
@uweburger
@uweburger 7 ай бұрын
Where are haiku and serenity in your comparison? ;)
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 6 ай бұрын
Because they can't run DWM
@m.t.5571
@m.t.5571 Жыл бұрын
Thank You very much for this "enlightened by experience" video. I'm not a developer nor a system administrator, nor a hacker. Those are not my job nor my main hobby; and I consider those less interesting than I used to. But every amount of time I ask myself: what should be MY ELECTED system between Linux (Debial like) and BSDs? Anyway it comes to FOSS communicating vessels. But which? The perfect system doesn't exist. After thinking about it sometimes I ended with a different system from the previous time. IT IS A PROCESS! At this moment, I agree with You: FreeBSD =)
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I'd encourage you to watch my video about FreeBSD as well. I think OpenBSD is better, you just kind of have to know what you're doing before you use it.
@m.t.5571
@m.t.5571 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop Now I've seen that video. But, pardon, I think it is biased on your personal use (memory usage, maybe your Internet connection, etc) and believes, kzbin.info/www/bejne/labLgqqNobuMiJY Overall at this moment I still prefer FreeBSD. I would use OpenBSD for firewall, not for desktop. Do You use it for KZbin? On some hardware, maybe not your Thinkpad, I think it has problems in that. FreeBSD (while not as "pure" as OpenBSD), but it is more the jack of all trades and in its community I think there are people as smart as or maybe sometime smarter than people at OpenBSD. I find OpenBSD etilist and so limited, best at something but definitively not that jack of all trading, like You pointed about Bluetooth. You say You are not a graphics guy, so maybe OpenBSD in its minimalist use suits better your use. Good news that OpenBSD exists, maybe getting the best from FreeBSD's code, and vice versa; but FreeBSD, with its high performances, has its huge community and that's an asset, still being BSD. That's how I see it, now.
@bl1tz533
@bl1tz533 Жыл бұрын
Did you switch in march
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
No, I think it was early July
@yuridelossantos569
@yuridelossantos569 3 ай бұрын
wrong comparison, freebsd and openbsd are the same, it should be: freebsd vs. linux vs. openindiana
@Tripsqueak
@Tripsqueak 5 ай бұрын
Ppl be wondering why they can't find answers to problems, but they using Artix or some esoteric shit because they read on /g/ that it makes you a chad.
@ImageJPEG
@ImageJPEG Жыл бұрын
Linux distros need to be treated as different OSes, just like FreeBSD.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I would agree, if the concept of a Linux distribution is necessary. But I find the fragmentation of Linux to be one of its major downfalls.
@JamesSmith-ix5jd
@JamesSmith-ix5jd Жыл бұрын
I disagree, 98% of distros consist the same things: linux, gcc, glibc, xorg, systemd, openssl, coreutils. If you would to make a distro with: linux, clang, wayland, runit, libressl, then you definitely should call it entirely different OS with linux kernel. But, there is no way such frankishtain would even boot properly. What fragmentation, all linuxes are basically the same, except nixOS, bedrock and things like that.
@ngtube9
@ngtube9 8 ай бұрын
So we have thousands of Linux distributions/OS - every better than the other ;-) and also worse than the others... Cheers
@colton9016
@colton9016 6 ай бұрын
The most popular unix/bsd is MacOS 😉
@RHTORAS
@RHTORAS Жыл бұрын
First of all i subscribed. Nice video... The reasons you mention on why you do not linux are all 100% wrong and i can explain you why. Linux is the kernel and then you choose the distro. Distros are not trendy. Trendy are the systemD distros which imho shouldn't be in the linux kernel. ANyways... you talk about fedora, mint, ubuntu and windblows-like linux distros. I assume you know since you like gentoo and artix that rolling distros have newer software. Try also void and alpine which are very close to openbsd but (in void option) with better support. Also void has good zfs support. Also you have the option to avoid things i also do not like like wayland or pulseawfull (sometimes it could helps though). Aur on Obarun or Artix offer so many opne source software bsd's would never see. Snaps and flatpacks are unecessary shit in my opinion. I use Devuan, Artix, Void, all of which have ways to install more and fresher software. Devuan Testing has a large libray of software e.t.c Void has xbps-src and so on! Even slackware has big library thanks to slackbuilds and of course gentoo, claculate e.t.c offer overlays to have what you like. I USE openbsd don't get me wrong but there is loooong way to reach NONsystemD linux standards which are high. As for documentation Devuan has good community so has Void you can find what you are searching easily. In the end of the day there are forums, reddit, telegram groups to ask what you want. BSD if we tlak in terms of community is slower, smaller and sometimes not the friendliest people. Last but not least bsd tend to pick systemD linux users and this is veeery bad. People liking systemD why come to bsd ?
@fabriciochamorro2985
@fabriciochamorro2985 Ай бұрын
I though I had an issue with the mirror, but yes, openbsd package manager kinda slow. But freebsd in my experience is slow too. The fastest I've ever tried is apk
@glibberglobber9358
@glibberglobber9358 Жыл бұрын
Gonna install freebsd on my t420 rn
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I would advise against it. OpenBSD is better.
@sambird7
@sambird7 Жыл бұрын
Soon OpenBSD will be too bloated and mainstream and they will use only BASIC
@folksurvival
@folksurvival Жыл бұрын
TempleOS.
@leshommesdupilly
@leshommesdupilly 3 ай бұрын
7:16 Based. Rust is cpp if the compiler was a total Karen
@apestogetherstrong341
@apestogetherstrong341 7 ай бұрын
Your argumentation for why you hate rust indicates I probably shouldn’t trust you when it comes to technical moments. I’m not a fan of rust either, but you seem to hate it for all the wrong reasons, dear anime pfp person
@apestogetherstrong341
@apestogetherstrong341 7 ай бұрын
yep, caught a lmao during the code of conduct part. don’t tell me how to behave!!! 😂 chronic /g/ disease
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 6 ай бұрын
True
@johnyferreira8733
@johnyferreira8733 10 ай бұрын
Opened the video to learn differences and turned out to be rants on a click bait title… 🙄
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@callisoncaffrey
@callisoncaffrey Жыл бұрын
Pretty picture and then just a podcast? You need to up your game, but then I can see this channel going places. Best of luck!
@leshommesdupilly
@leshommesdupilly 3 ай бұрын
Me: please, compile my Hello World :( Virgin Rust compiler: Nooooooo you have to rewrite everything !! It violates the borrowing rules !! vs Me: Trust me bro, this float is now a pointer to a function Chad C compiler: Yes master. _SegFault_
@oldpain7625
@oldpain7625 Жыл бұрын
"what are you, a sheep?" well yeah kinda but I'm learning shits
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Sheep do not learn, they consoom and follow the herd
@Ben-nj4qw
@Ben-nj4qw Жыл бұрын
Could you redo this video with a script or some structure. This feels like a long ramble.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I did have a structure. I basically just write down points I want to make and then record. Also no I am not remaking it, it's like my most popular video.
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 9 ай бұрын
netbsd can play basketball 🙂
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 9 ай бұрын
Based
@Zellonous
@Zellonous Жыл бұрын
I can't even find help for windows problems. Searching for help is damn near impossible these days for me.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
There's an easy solution to that: stop using Windows. Kek.
@Zellonous
@Zellonous Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop of course, but it was meant to illustrate how centralized/decentralized and popularity has less and less effect on how easy it is to find help. The internet is slowly becoming worse and worse.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
I saw an analogy recently. It went something like "Google is like an old shopping mall. It used to be really helpful and you could find anything and everything you need. Nowadays everything good is gone and deserted, but you still keep going back out of habit."
@Zellonous
@Zellonous Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop that's a perfect analogy.
@ezekielaesland1254
@ezekielaesland1254 Жыл бұрын
BSD It's kind of complicated if you don't know of UNIX :'v
@tobythethird5694
@tobythethird5694 11 ай бұрын
this guy is a fed.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 11 ай бұрын
SHUT IT DOWN, THE VIEWERS KNOW
@setoman1
@setoman1 9 ай бұрын
I use Qubes 😊
@connormccartney1604
@connormccartney1604 Жыл бұрын
T420 gang but arch btw
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
That's how it works when you use ThinkPads. You either die an Arch user or live long enough to see yourself become an OpenBSD user.
@ygjt76v0-----
@ygjt76v0----- 4 ай бұрын
Freebsd handbook are great
@totoro1255
@totoro1255 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you like Bluetooth?
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Lower sound quality, latency, and MANY vulnerabilities
@totoro1255
@totoro1255 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop do you know better alternative?
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Using an auxiliary cable. If you really want no wires, then you can get a small Bluetooth adapter that plugs into the 3.5mm port and connects wirelessly to your headphones.
@totoro1255
@totoro1255 Жыл бұрын
@@swindlesmccoop I was talking about protocol in general. I don't think we have better wireless alternative to connect peripheral devices (with relevant power consumption).
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Both WiFi and Bluetooth sacrifice privacy for conveniency. I just use wires for everything. A completely new protocol for wireless audio would need to be developed as Bluetooth is way too far gone.
@xamskywalker
@xamskywalker Жыл бұрын
did he just say im not a fan of decentralisation -_- cringe intensifies
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Decentralization as the *default* is more what I'm not a fan of
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Decentralization as the *default* is more what I'm not a fan of
@rvgeerligs
@rvgeerligs 20 күн бұрын
bull. linux kernel update is done in seconds
@matthewheelie4432
@matthewheelie4432 Жыл бұрын
Why do you hate Rust? I don't like following trends either, but Rust is just so fast and user friendly! In my opinion trends are stupid but not liking something only because it's popular is even dumber.
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
First, based Suzuha pfp. Second, it's not just about it being trendy. I don't like it having its own package manager, pulling redundant dependencies and compiling them all from source, having to update the crates.io index every time I want to do anything (which takes like 20 minutes on my connection), and more. Plus, I don't like the users. Just program in C.
@mikek17
@mikek17 Жыл бұрын
Rust itself takes forever to compile (even longer than GCC) and the Rust compiler is slow too. It doesn't damn the language for the end user but it makes it much more annoying for tinkerers. A prime example being Mozilla adopting Rust in Firefox and I have absolutely no clue why they did. As for user friendly, maybe in fetching dependencies and in that the compiler complains more, but C syntax is easy. Rust is not.
@darukutsu
@darukutsu Жыл бұрын
If all new developers are gona be people who don't RTFM, bloat stack pages, ask seniors for help often. I would prefer and force them to use rust. Safety first. Don't wanna see my info leaked, system crash because of some memory leak. The compiling time is not very pleasant, but not something i wouldn't mind for that extra reliability. Some projects are amazing like ripgrep which is blazingly fast...
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop Жыл бұрын
Rust video on Monday morning @ 8AM Eastern.
@damianateiro
@damianateiro 4 ай бұрын
How strange that BSD videos in general have come out quite a bit lately and that in several of them they say that it is much better than Linux (when it is true) I think that is sheepish too hahahahahahaha
@Sun_Seeker
@Sun_Seeker 3 ай бұрын
What is it with people with anime pfps using linux and why am i one of them?
@gustavorossi4932
@gustavorossi4932 26 күн бұрын
That's some shit that needs to be studied by psychiatrists. Nice Yui and Solaire pfp btw
@user-qx3qn5mc2g
@user-qx3qn5mc2g 2 ай бұрын
For sure you you're not the BSD
@zohaib880
@zohaib880 Жыл бұрын
2:17
@davidkachel
@davidkachel 6 ай бұрын
Interesting choice... doing a radio show on youtube. Bye!
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid 9 ай бұрын
I have been using Linux for nearly two 15 years, for most of it Arch with KDE, starting with Antergos, and then EndeavourOS. I could never get into most Debian based distro's for being too Windows like, which is the very reason I nuked it and made the switch cold turkey. I have tried BSD, way back when when it and Linux were just too tough to get running on any of my gear. I loved BeOS as a brilliant concept of how software's should work together but couldn't afford it back then for it requiring specific hardware, and tried Haiku when it came around. I haven't tried BSD or Haiku for a while, having my Linux setup well refined to my liking and work flow, and I don't have the time to work through all the differences of a different OS as I used to just for fun. I hope I find the time to give them a look again.
@erichoberg3502
@erichoberg3502 9 ай бұрын
Debian is no more 'Windows like' than Arch with KDE.
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid 9 ай бұрын
@@erichoberg3502 I never said that Debian is Windows like! I said "most Debian based distro's for being too Windows like", so Ubuntu and derivatives like Mint... and not "ALL" but "MOST" and besides that of course meaning out of the box, because unlike Windows, Linux is customizable in much greater detail, and KDE more than any other DE, and some of them even say right on their site that their distro should be a good choice for those switching from Windows to Linux, which although probably would make it easier for those who never even tried to custom the Windows GUI and find better and more powerful alternatives to the bundled programs, in my case especially their terrible file manager,, and browser wanting multiple desktops, menu bars, features, and what not that, I did find some of, but also had to pay for some, only to give up some with every new versions of Windows, and look and hack into Windows do it all over again to get closer to what I wanted. Also: if you read what I actually wrote, instead of what you want it to say, you would see there's a time line, so it was many years ago when Linux DE's were all less flexible. Many were and still are LTS releases, which when I tried them reminded me of the many people including myself On the Windows forums voicing annoyances and making good suggestions, not to mention reporting real bugs and vulnerabilities, only to be ignored by Microsoft, and in the rare case they did see it as a good idea, had to wait for months for a change or a bad workaround. With KDE I have seen people make a great suggestion, and it was implemented way faster, but the LTS's didn't get it until the next release which could be years! On a rolling release like Arch you get it as soon as it's implemented. So think for yourself, because you suck at thinking for others!
@kitastro
@kitastro Жыл бұрын
hello from mental outlaw
@CheerupA1
@CheerupA1 4 ай бұрын
Rust > c 😮
@Phantom-lr6cs
@Phantom-lr6cs Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Phantom-lr6cs
@Phantom-lr6cs Ай бұрын
even ada is far better when it comes to memory safety kid 🤣 but c ain't for bunch of clown web devs who don't know what's difference between 1 byte and 2 byte 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you just ain't capable to count from 1 to 2 🤣🤣
@mrwhitebp
@mrwhitebp 7 ай бұрын
Another KZbinr that thinks that using an OS that minority uses makes him smarter 😂
@swindlesmccoop
@swindlesmccoop 7 ай бұрын
Not because it's used by the minority of people but because of the knowledge and skill I have to run an efficient system
@mchi2214
@mchi2214 Ай бұрын
Meh i use bsd but with hardware incompatibilities id rather stick to gentoo any given day!
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