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[@squidx2365]

She sounds like the kinda person to look up a wikihow on how to gaslight a person and still fail

[@Grebbaaa]

I hate how accurate that is holy hell.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Would not be surprised if that what was all that typing was in the background Just good lord

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

​@@TrueBuddhaCather "actually" sounds like a cheap discount valley girl trying to be cool...

[@ArcCryptidArt]

I'm 26 and i'm not ashamed to admit i go to my parents for advise/help because they are wiser than me and have been around the block

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Same here; just last week I thought my dryer was broken till I asked my mom for some help and turns out; I didn’t have some of the towels and blankets ringed out enough so was shown where to ring them out properly in washer and my dryer was fine Takes a strong person to admit that they need help and ask for help, no matter the age. Have to keep reminding myself that even almost 30; it shows you care about what you do

[@SparDanger]

I'm almost 36 and I still ask my Mom for life tips. No shame in picking the brain of someone wiser than you.

[@ruby_velvet_YT]

Same, I still ask my mom for advice, and I just turned 24 recently

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@@Mister_Don888 Don’t know, is that a problem?

[@moosesues8887]

Gah damn I feel out of place here being 17

[@theflyingninja1]

Congratulations to this person for making it 24 years without forgetting how to breathe.

[@jojo-7306]

I'm only at the start of the video but there's so way they're really 24 when Lio asked their age, they pause for a second like they were making up the answer. they act more like a child

[@neoqwerty]

@@jojo-7306 I forget what age I'm at and I still have to count on my fingers from my year of birth to the present year to give an answer, and even then I hesitate 'cause I'm in November so most of the year I have to take one away and that always throws me. I'm... 35 (I think). So yeah someone can make it to majority not remembering their age and struggling to substract 1 from anything double-digits.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Apparently this person has not had any accidents in life(i.e: spilling a drink, accidentally wetting the bed, tripping over yourself, etc.) Just blows my mind that this person is still in the “it’s not a phase, mom!” and “it’s just a prank, bro” part of their life at freaking 24 and has to make up different accounts, a girlfriend, saying their homeless, etc without going “what the hell am I doing? I am acting like an idiot”

[@agencymenace1090]

​@@neoqwerty don't give this idiot an out.

[@Nero_Coniglio]

As someone with autism, OCD, anxiety, and ADHD this was the most frustrating, anxiety-inducing conversation I've heard in a while. I don't think I understood a single point she tried to make (I'm only on the first call).

[@dillweeds]

same here. i feel fucking insane trying to follow this call.

[@narwhals4550]

Half her points go down to... no u

[@wrexvincent]

Ive had conversations with people overdosing on methamphetamine who made more sense than this girl.

[@avi-draws]

Show of hands: Who here thinks that Lio has more than earned a nice, relaxing vacation with his lovely family away from this insanity-inducing madness?

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Right here; him and his lovely wife too

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@HopelessPeaches Now now Peaches, your dad needs to keep his energy and I think a nice vacation would be great for all of you

[@TheLarryDungeon]

@Hopeless Peaches Finger wagging creature tell Peaches what's right! creature in question: nuh uh

[@musicaddic95]

I’ve been saying this! Lol send this man n his fam on a cruise to a Hawaii or somewhere, pls! 🍹🌊🏖️☀️

[@xXMilkuwuXx]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS!

[@KairiYajuu]

“Are you mocking someone for a disability??” “I know aggression cause I’ve lived with 3 bipolar people!!” As someone with diagnosed bipolar who has struggled with outbursts (that I always take responsibility for and have moved passed) kindly piss off, honey :) Lio, you are one hell of a guy. It’s incredible. (/Gen)

[@fishyles]

my boyfriend has bipolar disorder, and he has never ONCE been aggressive with me. he’s the sweetest person i know. that comment pissed me off so badly.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

I’m a physician who treats this disorder and aggression is a potential but not common symptom.

[@_TSC_46]

Same, I feel so bad when I have an outburst(worse when I’m PMS) bipolar sucks so much dude

[@agencymenace1090]

Outbursts of aggression are still living with aggression. I'm not making excuses for that tard, but sometimes folks w bipolar dont get help and move on from outbursts of aggression.

[@caramel9154]

I've got an online friend with BPD and shes the sweetest person

[@transpearl]

I genuinely think this person is around the age of 13 or 14 and i don't say that as an insult i'm just incredibly worried for the situations they may be getting themselves into and the potential threats they could face by causing fights with random adults on the internet. too many kids try to be like their idols nowadays getting into debates without knowing how and why debates occur.

[@transpearl]

Like this is just obvious straight up preteen behavior, I would know because i was a pre-teen on the internet doing the same thing. I just hope she doesn't get herself into rabbit holes of trouble because a lot of times situations like these end incredibly badly. Entertaining video all together I just felt the need to say I don't think anyone should believe she's being truthful about her age. I think people should be more sympathetic in these types of situations rather than taking her blatant lies at face value and try to rather reason with her and let her understand these are just dangerous choices.

[@neoqwerty]

@@transpearl I've known dumbasses that were 30+ and acted like immature teenagers, I'm inclined to believe she really is 24 (and should still be living with her parents because she ain't ready for the adult world yet). In fact a lot of drama-mongering people are immature, see the CreepshowArt debacle, the Cassandra Clare and MsScribe Sagas... Grown women all acting like teens.

[@transpearl]

@@neoqwerty well my question is to you. why believe one thing out of the other hundreds of lies shes told. like i said i use to be like this i use to be a 11 year old on the internet getting into drama with adults and this is exactly how i acted and exactly how my thought process was. and theres a difference between being immature and just straight up not even being able to comprehend simple questions being asked. she is physically unable to process what is being asked of her and what she is getting into and shouldnt be treated like someone like creepshow art who is able to make full length long videos going into subjects and being able to stalk people without getting caught for periods of a time. this is a child and i think throwing insults at her and making her feel as though she is 100% in the wrong and shouldn't be given any help is damaging.

[@literallieme]

@@transpearl I couldn't had said it better. It makes me question if these people are really doing what they should be doing to tjs girl. I mean sure she lied about her age but they're gonna insult her for not acting the age she said she is, and to a pre-teen its obviously gonna come off as them insulting her entirely (along with all the other crap) . at that point I would had sniffed out that she was lying about her age and mostly everything falls into place about her behavior. If this girl was actually her age I would be concerned cus no adult should be acting like a pre-teen.

[@transpearl]

@@literallieme thank you for your comment im glad im not alone in thinking this way. and this isnt even like a diss towards lio or an insult i just think the situation has gotten out of hand and the best option for these types of people is coming to the situation as a respectful adult, letting the kid know hey the stuff you're getting into is causing drama and in some instances can be dangerous for you. because dont get me wrong it can be very fun to just go back and forth with immature people who have no clue what theyre talking about... but for an obvious child (who on their channel i went to, they have said themselves they might have some form of a mental disorder however take this with a grain of salt) i just think publicizing it for other adults to mock and throw insults at wont really solve anything. i know the obvious excuse is "well she lied about her age she should be held responsible!!" she is a child. children and esp neurodivergent have a much harder time seeing the cons of a situation and why the situation is bad in the first place. im 100% rambling at this point i just think people should be more mindful and in situations like these should at least censor the names at minimum. its just a very low blow to mock and insult an obvious child like cmon man if you say you're an adult you should be more mature about this. but yea thats most likely the last thing ill say on this, no hate to lio he's a fun guy n all i just think this was a very not great situation to linger on for a child like this.

[@thelindenhour2598]

1:43:50 Did she seriously say that she sexually harssed Lio because she was bored? She has entered the lions den. Unlike Daniel, she is not getting out.

[@flamepampas5197]

Lio: Alright, Artists. Get your tablets out. Me, who wasn't even thinking of drawing: Yes sir !! Got it!!

[@Spookyhappymeal]

Peaches being Lios child is genuinely so wholesome and adorable

[@BanazirGalpsi1968]

how many kids does he have?opal, peaches, sarafina, who else? i like him, i just wanna be careful not to offend the lio family.

[@Lio_Convoy]

@@BanazirGalpsi1968 Sera is a friend, not a family member. There's Jordyn and Pink that you missed.

[@kingj9664]

@@Lio_Convoy You know what I do when I'm bored what's the lio convoy destroys on idiots. By the way what do you think of the new Transformers TV cartoon and the new movie coming out just curious

[@MilkandCookies...]

​@@BanazirGalpsi1968Wait, fr? I am genuinely not sure if that's real or it's a bit ^^,

[@ikeohno]

​@LioConvoy we need more people willing to come to bat for those they love, and we need more acceptance for the family we make along the way in life. some of the best relationships you'll ever make, and they can be some of the strongest with work.

[@MelCairoRose]

Frosty didn’t deserve this. This was a wild two hours to sit and listen to.

[@TheLarryDungeon]

I will NOT stand for this frosty the snowman slander

[@TrickyandElias]

I was getting brain damage listening to the first call and I just found this comment and I laughed my ass off thank you

[@MelCairoRose]

@@TrickyandElias No problem my man. Glad to help you in these times.(Edit: Though I realized now that maybe you meant the other comment but hey glad you saw this small lil comment thread lol )

[@TrickyandElias]

@@MelCairoRose I meant both dw!

[@GloomyGhoulicious]

The person that walked in on them was DEFINITELY a mom. Because how can you be living with a friend and NOT know their age? "We don't talk that much" but yet you're here living with them and you conveniently don't know their age? They're such a bad liar it hurts

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

This just screams of “get out of my room, mom!!” and this person is 24…..not to toot my horn but I was possibly around that age when I was gifted a house from my mom but still keep in contact since not too far from her and just in case I need help

[@luckyslob3359]

@@TrueBuddhaCatyou were *gifted* a house?! How the heck does that happen???

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@@luckyslob3359 Well my folks bought a house that originally looked like a freakin crack shack but fixed it all up both inside and outside, then finally it was all done and ready to go, I had a house! Will admit I was a bit scared since well I had never done this before(there were some tears of fear shed) but after all of my stuff and getting settled in; and my fur baby of course; since then I have been so comfortable and been taking great care of the place

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

@@luckyslob3359 Well, I know Anthony Quinn Warner did it somehow, I think.

[@PinkPanther45518]

​@@TrueBuddhaCat That is awesome!! Your Mother sounds like an amazing woman. I would love a house. I'm too poor for one though, I also despise living on my own or with strangers(I read too many horror stories.). So I'll be at home for a while.😁👍 Don't worry I pay my bills and rent, we all Gucci.☺️💖

[@Randerson2409]

I was genuinely awe-struck when she called Lio "cold-hearted". He's very blunt and direct, but he's also one of the most caring people I've seen on this platform, who goes out of his way far more often than he should to help people who need it

[@chocoholicbatloverstudios]

Honestly, if anyone is cold-hearted, it’s her lol.

[@gojira5157]

I find his anger kinda stress inducing sometimes, but considering who he deals with I can’t blame him lol

[@DeanDraxon8752]

And sometimes people who don’t even deserve his help. The reason he gets so angry sometimes is because he cares *a lot* . And he’s only mean to people who genuinely deserve it. He seems like a sweet guy otherwise.

[@DystopianOverture]

Calling the guy who ruins his health with stress protecting others from predators 'heartless' is a low blow. Folks like Lio is what is keeping me from completely losing faith in humanity.

[@PineappleMagician]

This did NOT age well

[@blackgirlmagic732]

More dads like Lio are needed. The way he always stands up for what's right, and supports people is just...GOATED. I appreciate knowing there's someone like him in the world.

[@Starfall_Productions]

God lio would make a better dad than my bio dad but my step dads pretty cool too

[@Starfall_Productions]

@@doopclann3428 I should I think he'd get a kick out some of these guys Lio calls out

[@derpkipper]

Yeah, man's got a lot of integrity. That's a valuable trait to have

[@PineappleMagician]

This didn’t age well…

[@hyperreality753]

Another fatherless, no wonder Frosty left her.

[@hotel_arcadia]

It's Kingdom Hearts but instead of the Heartless, it's the Fatherless

[@LiterallyInklingGirl]

@@hotel_arcadia😭

[@p0ssum798]

I have friends with NPD and ASPD and slapping those labels on people like that is dangerous. These people are not given proper support due to the stigma, because of how much it's used in situations like this. Not everyone who is abusive/rude has NPD/ASPD yes, they struggle with certain things (ie: people with ASPD not capable of having empathy) but it doesn't mean they are inherently abusive. She's a bit confused it seems 🙃

[@flinghucky]

yup!! I'm friends w/ someone who has npd and it really just depends on how the parent raises the child in the end. There's probably a much higher percentage of npd / aspd people in the world who just aren't diagnosed and nobody bats an eye because they're just like anyone else

[@DystopianOverture]

I doubt she's confused. I don't think she really cares about anyone except for her fragile ego.

[@p0ssum798]

NO YEAH legit Cluster B's are just trying to survive and thrive in this hellscape just like everyone else. I don't have a Cluster B PD, or any PD, but I fight the stigma where and when I can.

[@iamaunicorn1232]

Coyote: gives a clear, descriptive, honestly heart wrenching example of what living with a narcissist is like. Bunny: stumbles through the most generic, vague answer possible. That's not "omitting details for privacy's sake" that's just lying.

[@RcsePetl]

This comment didn’t age well.

[@Makewell_catto]

aged like milk

[@erikjohnson2885]

Turns out... he was the narcissist all along, he was living with himself.

[@quaygrass6212]

@@erikjohnson2885 Man started roleplaying with Sappho and getting angry at people he said he would help. Haha

[@jonathansolano9648]

I’m so sorry dude

[@qurplecat3860]

I'm impressed how he kept his cool for the majority of this. I would've blown up so hard with the amount of dead noise and lies

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Oh same here, I probably would have blown my voice out to get a straight answer Basically doing exactly what Lio so perfectly did to Rosa Ray Ramsey

[@cherry1858]

There is no way. There is NO WAY this is an adult. My mind absolutely refuses to believe this girl is an adult. Getting through that first call alone was maddening, the lies all horrible. At least I was able to make a cute art piece while listening on to this literal nonsense. Hopefully she stays away from you this time, Lio...

[@TheDiamondSystem0.0]

She sounds like she peaked in middle school

[@JackdawFeathers]

@@TheDiamondSystem0.0 She hasn’t even made it to middle school yet

[@TheDiamondSystem0.0]

@@JackdawFeathers lol

[@TheDiamondSystem0.0]

@@Lucifersfursona Someone meeds to find out if she's faking her age or not, because it's hard for me to believe she's an adult

[@McChicken03]

“You think you know everything.” They said this to PEACHES, the person they were refusing to speak to so they could dig into Lio. They even say “They don’t know that! She doesn’t know!” To the person who was initially involved!!! OMG.

[@ethanmichaelcrane934]

The first third of this is like an Abbott & Costello routine. Lio and company are like the perpetual "straight men" to everyone else's "short, fat, funny clown."

[@Cell287]

Hey, at least Costello had class.

[@ethanmichaelcrane934]

@@Cell287 That's true.

[@doubleaabattery7562]

Except remove funny

[@pyrofirestrike]

I don't know what was more scary- the time Lio yelled at Zrcarlo or his laughter in the first call when she called him cold hearted.

[@sugarrusheb]

I'm 22, I can handle going to the doctor by myself. HOWEVER, because it extremely stresses me out and my parents have the ability to be there, they take me because they love me and want to help take additional stress off of me.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Nothing wrong with that; took me till I was probably about 26 to finally go to a doctors place to get a shot or blood done without my mom because I have a massive fear of needles Even when you get older, you still have that need for your parents love and guidance and nothing wrong with that(just don’t be a bum like this smooth brain)

[@chocoholicbatloverstudios]

Aww! That’s so sweet!

[@RaV3nn]

They really tried to ask “what you did for a living” and tried to pull a “didn’t ask” like they didn’t literally ask.

[@OvineOphanim]

Imagine being so self-conscious - so bad at lying - that you feel the need to lie about wetting the bed as a baby, or ever spilling a drink, or TRIPPING. Absolutely outrageous. The second-hand embarrassment is real.

[@LuLu43215]

I’ve never heard Lio laugh so hard before, I’m happy the old man got a good laugh from this fatherless nut case.

[@ryanspics]

I wheezed when I heard that.

[@aelita387]

It's actually a really good idea to have a second person sit in with you on a call or a meeting, especially if it may be a confrontational or stressful conversation. Always remember if you don't feel safe/comfortable to talk by yourself with someone (especially if they're known to gaslight, etc.) it is never a problem to have someone you trust to sit in with you on the conversation. It's a basic right, and if the other person cannot accept it, then do not entertain them! Don't let someone say "You're old enough to talk to someone by yourself."

[@Nero_Coniglio]

Exactly. In my doctor's office, they have signs in every exam room reminding patients they are entitled to have a representative with them.

[@derpkipper]

100%. This comment needs more upvotes

[@StarrChild.]

"So you're still insulting me?!" "Yes! I am!" "👁👄👁" it's always hilarious when they try a gotcha moment that just doesn't work out

[@higaiwokeru]

Is she trying to gaslight everyone in the call? It’s like she wrote on her hand how to gaslight and she only wrote “be a contrarian” yet doesn’t know what a contrarian is

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

I even have to really question if she’s actually 24 years old Because this does not sound like 24 year old adult, this sounds like a teenager still going through their “it’s not a phase, mom!” and “I’m smarter than everyone” part of their life(we’ve all had that and we all had to learn the hard way that we are freakin stupid) And she says she’s not on the spectrum but yet EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. she tried to play the Uno reverse card my own autistic brain was annoyed, angered and freaking confused and just going “holy hell this child is terrible at trying to act tough!!”

[@higaiwokeru]

@@TrueBuddhaCat specially when she acknowledges Peaches in the call yet acts surprised when Peaches turns out to be in the call????

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@@higaiwokeru No kidding; just holy god this was so freaking aggravating

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

That's a great explanation and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.

[@DianaAndAndrew4Evr]

the lengthy moments of silence make me feel like this person is having a prolonged internal monologue after every remark. they don't seem to realize that nobody else can hear that monologue though

[@1faithchick7]

I had the same feeling. Like, she thought she said something out loud but didn't and acted confused when people told her she didn't say it. It's kinda schizophrenic tbh. Creepy.

[@alanisisamess8977]

it's like death note if light was even more of a petulant child and infinitely worse at lying

[@dragongamerx12]

maybe she thinks she is an anime protagonist

[@jaytoodles1444]

"Alright artists, get your tablets ready. We all know you're going to draw while listening to this." I've been called out LMAO

[@kykycupcake1]

While I know adults do act this dumb There's something about the specific language used and speech patterns that make it more and more obvious throughout the call that she isn't 24 "Actually, it pretty much is" Literally EVERY CHILD I know uses this exact string of words I've never heard an adult use them Or the "why are you so offended" being used completely inappropriately (These are small personal examples) Edit: I made this comment near the begining It only got more obvious as the call went on Especially the way her voice freezes up when she's caught lying Specifically after her (likely) mother was heard in the background And when she wouldn't bring her "friend/partner" into the call

[@jojo-7306]

yeah and also the way she paused when asked how old she is really sounded like she was just making it up. Like I'm 24 and sometimes when people ask my age, I have to think about it for a second, but her answer didn't sound like that to me. it's hard to describe but something about her tone just really sounded like a kid lying about their age. it's hard to put into words exactly but I agree with you: the entire call just sounds more like a child rather than a very stupid 24-year-old

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

I’m not quite sure that she’s a child, or if she is, I don’t think she’s THAT young. All of the fake stuff about having a partner, having a friend that’s mute, and living in an apartment, alongside all of the harassment they’re sending other people give me the idea that they are more calculated than they seem, and that Lio’s confrontational approach is making them shrivel under the scrutiny. A lot of assholes can talk a lot of shit behind texts but can’t verbalize their distorted reality. Lio also mentions that he asked her multiple times if she was 24, and that it’s been the only consistent thing Bunny says. Considering how quickly she’s willing to lie and go back on her words within seconds of saying contradicting statements, I’d say that the fact that her age has remained consistent through separate recounts is proof enough. Some people are just extremely emotionally immature. I think a lot of these types of people need some genuine help, but they also need to face consequences for harming others.

[@derpkipper]

Either way it doesn't matter. All they can do is take her at her word. If she's a minor parading as an adult we probably don't have any way of knowing. It feels kinda pointless to delve into why they could secretly be a minor but that's me. Sadly I've seen plenty of adults that act this way. And just because someone uses that kind of terminology doesn't make them a kid, btw. Maybe they just pick up on humor and speech habits that younger generations typically pick up on. It happens, it isn't that strange.

[@peachdoesart7175]

Craftify is clearly underage and trying desperately to hide it. They heard what gaslighting meant, and either they are gaslighted at home by family, or assume they are when they aren't. Whether or not that applies is irrelevant though. Craftify just needs to mature. I think they turned to Spoctors vids for comfort but got wayyy too into art drama and got parasocial with it. I hope the parents aren't actually shit to them, that they're just going through an edgy phase, but yeah, they might not be old enough to have a youtube. They sound really young and act it. Maybe they are 24, but I highly doubt it. My guess is 14.

[@abelm1846]

If that's so, isn't it weird that two adults are having an internet slap fight with them? While pretending Peaches is the child? This whole situation is such a big nothing burger. This larp that Peaches is Lio's child and they need to fight everyone is getting out of hand. Yuh Craftify is wrong, but so are Peaches and Lio. I have seen Peaches defend herself. I also notice she acts more like a baby around lio. It's a weird

[@peachdoesart7175]

@abelm1846 The whole child thing isn't really meant to be taken literally with Peaches but I do kinda see what you're saying. Though I dont think they act like a baby when Lios around. If you see it I do not. I think Lio might have made this purely for entertainment like when Ponder Sprocket shared a debate they'd had with an anti vaxxer, which was another nothing burger but it was still entertaining nevertheless. But, I can see why this video might not have been necessary. Seeing as Lio doesn't have confirmation Bunny Chan is a minor, I think he'd be in the right to keep the vid up. If they did turn out to be underage, I'm not sure what would be the right move then, probably just taking it down or editing the video with a pre established update to give the context that Craftify is underage. I'm just speculating though. And it's Lios channel at the end of the day to do with whatever he'd like.

[@Lio_Convoy]

@@abelm1846 You’ll get over it.

[@Lio_Convoy]

@@peachdoesart7175 If I got solid confirmation and evidence that this person was a minor, the video would be immediately privated.

[@whatteamwildcats4033]

@@abelm1846 not really? Being a minor doesn't exempt them from being taken to task for things they say or do

[@horrordragon2010]

Yeah I'm calling bs on this girl being 24, cuz they act like the typical chronically online teen. That tweets 800 times... *per day.*

[@SmythTheCrow]

"I have a nice thicc wife" That got me laughing.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

EXTRA THICC

[@mosura2695]

i think it's pretty clear this human is NOT in tune with reality whatsoever and is most definitely a child with barely a faint clue on what being an adult is like, and genuinely think their lies are convincing or they believe it themselves. this is absolutely insane, yet so morbidly fascinating

[@bluehairandthrowdowns5684]

This is so genuinely unhinged. Imagine all this started because Lio’s mere presence intimidated spoctor into piss babying.

[@ffawn]

You are probaaaably the most sane person on this community. It's a shame you dont get involved as much, your channel would be massive. Awesome vid, I am still watching but the amount of times I laughed so far- so fucking hilarious. You're a trap for terminally online ppl.

[@sleepytoons2155]

I’ve literally had more intelligent conversations w my toddler niece. I’m literally in awe at the audacity of this person to blatantly and horribly lie 😭

[@The_C_]

lio being concerned with them when they seem confused is kinda sweet. they were attemptingto gaslight everyone left and right the whole time and he turns around and shows how truly cold-hearted he is by showing concern for their well-being. thanks for making this bearable, sir

[@dinofelisdruid78]

I think we should take away the words "gaslight" and "narcissist" away from people.

[@derpkipper]

Just because some people misuse it doesn't invalidate those words at all 🤦‍♀️ Edit: ok apparently this is regarding a part in the video i havent gotten to yet lol. Well my comment does still stand but it was silly of me to insinuate that you were implying the opposite of what I'm saying when I didnt even have full context myself lol

[@dinofelisdruid78]

@@derpkipper lol no worries! i was mostly referencing people using the terms incorrectly, not the terms as a whole :)

[@Sam-mx4ux]

The way this person tries to make everything she says a gotcha in the first call, by just repeatedly going "so you mean- so you think -so you're saying" is unbelievably grating Instead of just trying to actually comprehend what's being talked about lol

[@saspitite]

GOD THAT WAS SO ANNOYING the way she was constantly like “oh so you’re implying that-“ no. you just aren’t paying attention to the conversation. and it’s INFURIATING

[@sarahelizabeth6713]

The nearly two minutes it took this person to pay enough attention to Lio to process that he asked what they meant by calling him "frosty" and to answer him felt like two weeks

[@heiwaii847]

Lio: You're all going to draw to this Me, opening Minecraft: Heh, he'll never see this one coming

[@KairiYajuu]

Started listening to this on my lunch break. Fourteen minutes in and this circus music is more and more fitting.

[@-chippedstars-2889]

The mom walking in was fucking hilarious. Absolutely derailed her already crumbling lie.

[@onehittalon789]

Lio: Alright artists! Get your tablet out! Me, making an animatic: "waaaay ahead of you!"

[@kaiiriverbell9091]

Okay, legit question, how do other people deal with second hand embarrassment from people like this?? Like, I'm not even 15 mins in and I just wanna curl in on myself, what the actual hell. Its like listening to a shitty sit com.

[@GojiraY2Jake]

No seriously I feel this. I'm curled up like a shrimp that's how embarrassed I am listening. I have to pause every so few minutes it's driving me nuts.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Oh I’m glad I was not in this call because god almighty I might have been raging at this person in place of Lio for being so stupid and up their own ass at the age of 24 Just….stuck in that phase of “it’s not a phase, mom!” of a teenager

[@LordBenMazaTM]

I lost 45% of braincells from this Video..how do you tolerate these people and not loose your braincells Lio?

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

I guess I was lucky to have had a haircut because I probably would’ve blown out my voice from yelling more than Lio

[@Pink-Computer]

only 45%? that's impressive

[@chriswolf9063]

I asked the same question to this day and my best guess is either because he is either tired of dealing with these scum fucks or he wants to put them in their place.

[@fishtaxes5057]

I’m pretty sure the nosebleed that came to me not even halfway through the video is the fault of this person talking in never-ending circles. I can’t imagine being Lio and having to deal with this live. In fact, is that brain matter I spy in the blood that gushed out my nose?? Huh, funny that.

[@ImNotPartofaCultNoReallyISwear]

Unfortunately, it’s very possible that she’s 24. I know at least one person in real life who acts just like this, and she’s in her 30’s. Their speech patterns, the vocal tone, and the lack of understanding lines up almost eerily.

[@classicrockkid345]

I asked my old man who was in the military. Stay frosty means to keep a cool head. And Lio does that very well, so Stay Frosty Lio.

[@lucasl202-61]

At 31:59 is one of the big reasons why I love and respect Lio so much. Even when talking to degenerates, he still cares for folks. Mad respect to that

[@xanaroryuki7891]

Take a shot every time Magna has to have things repeated to her, repeats herself, backpedals, says something incoherent and verbally inane, repeats herself, moves the goalpost by answering a question that wasn't even asked, rePEATS herself, or...repeats herself. And by "take a shot" I mean "slam the nearest pillow against your face and scream into it"

[@AnonymouslyPrime]

Didn't know people use the word "frosty" to mean cold-hearted... stay Frosty my friends

[@neoqwerty]

It's a very boomer term, like it's older than "radical" to mean "cool AF", it's *that* ancient. I don't think I've seen anyone younger than gen X or maybe xennials trying to sound mature using it that way.

[@TheGamingAngel18]

It’s very much she heard this word somewhere and threw it without knowing what it meant then made up her own definition for slang.

[@DaimosZ]

After listening to these damn calls, I feel much dumber and wonder how Lio hasn't gone mad from dealing with all these NPC's.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Nice diet of 80’s cartoons and anime; plus being with his beautiful wife and lovely kids and the good lord helping him too

[@DaimosZ]

@@TrueBuddhaCat I meant that more rhetorically lol. But he and I have a similar taste in anime and cartoons (my PFP on KZbin was actually drawn by him)

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@@DaimosZ Cool cool; even though I’m a nineties baby, was raised on some great 80’s cartoons and anime Reason why Priss from Bubblegum Crisis is my avatar

[@DaimosZ]

@@TrueBuddhaCat I noticed. The Saber Knight gals are pretty dope.

[@Lio_Convoy]

Feels less like NPCs, and more like SPCs.

[@squidy.tea-png8343]

17:44 OKAY, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WASN'T A PARENT COMING INTO HER ROOM AND ASKING WHO SHE WAS TALKING TO- that's exactly how I sounded at 13 when my dad would ask who I was on call with. "just some guy" She didn't say like, "That guy that was on call with Peaches and Spocter" or "Lio Convoy" or anything like that- Plus, I'm betting cold-hearted cash she got the severed jaw thing from Madness Combat. She probably was looking for a quick reason her "buddy" couldn't talk and jumped to that

[@candyoblivion6228]

NOT THE MADNESS COMBAT REFERENCE LMAO

[@totallynotajellyfish]

By far the most patience-wearing thing I've watched in a long time. I can only imagine having to actually deal with it. God bless you, Lio!

[@acejascent]

the amount of times they went "you aren't following the conversation" or something of the sort when you asked them to give you an answer was the most obvious attempts at gaslighting you'd think they read gaslighting for dummies

[@bonniegomez5333]

Thanks for the circus music. Now I was more able to accurately picture her with clown makeup

[@KatKit52]

I wanna preface this with I really love these kinds of videos. However, what always gets me is that.... these people are allowed to leave the chat right? Why don't they? Why don't they just say "I don't wanna talk to you" and dip? Yeah, sure, it's an L, but I think it's a much better L than trying to do whatever Crafti has been doing. I love it. ETA: Also, I love how Crafti is like "I respect my friends too much to make them talk to you!" when like... ok if that's true, that means the friends don't respect Crafti enough to prove that they're correct by talking to Lio. Like. If this is real, then Crafti, hon, get better friends.

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

It's the attention, they thrive off it. Either that or they know that if they leave and don't come back, they're gonna have this follow them through all online spaces until everyone eventually forgets. And as I'm sure all of us are well aware, the Internet never forgets.

[@Onyx_Online]

I am so sorry this happened to you Lio, people like her really need a reality check and to live in a forest for a year, or forever. She sounds absolutely disgusting

[@luckyslob3359]

“Let me guess, you’re on the spectrum, aren’t you?” “No, I’m actually not.” *”Are you sure.”*

[@FillaneAmmisto]

30 minutes in and I'm confused to a point at which I don't even know how human interactions look like

[@TarkTheWild]

I love coming back to this comedy. Shes either Deaf Dodging the questions Trying to drag other "people" to defend "them" for her action Funny lizard man just makes 15 year olds insane. UPDATE: 😢

[@ALeopleurodon]

At 22, I can't understand a single thing that came out of bunnychan's mouth during the call at the beginning. I can't even call that deflection because that requires actually participating in the conversation, which they failed to do several times. Editing to say I'll revisit this at 23 in a few months to see if I can understand bunnychan. I doubt it, but we'll see.

[@TheGamingAngel18]

I’m 33 and I promise you they will only give you more of a headache with age.

[@vixenflorafoxflows4155]

I'm 26, and I think my brain melted trying to make something remotely .. .. .."words.."? out of this salad. Keep me posted Cos if you're able to understand it then I absolutely need to erase every pixel of my existence from when I was 24

[@vixenflorafoxflows4155]

Maybe it's like a very specific, narrow timeframe for like some horrifying trix-is-for-kids fugue state

[@DraconicDarkness]

I love how the very first words she said during the first call were so messed up that even the captions on KZbin couldn't pick it up XD

[@xanaroryuki7891]

What I hear is "I'm the channel who all started it" which...DOESN'T make it any better considering she sounds like she's perpetually sloshed, like, ffs, SOBER UP, listen CLOSELY, and SPEAK. UP!

[@DraconicDarkness]

@@xanaroryuki7891 considering she actually says she is drinking during this call I have to agree XD

[@xanaroryuki7891]

​@@DraconicDarknessI FORGOT HOW BAD IT GETS! "No offense, but you come in at the wrong time and a bad timing"

[@DraconicDarkness]

@@xanaroryuki7891 I know right? Like seriously!

[@Commentaur-TPMM]

“Like the snowman?!” Always kills me.

[@TheRPGNerd]

JOKES ON YOU LIO, IM WATCHING THIS *ON* MY DRAWING TABLET

[@TheGamingAngel18]

Me: Lio where do you find- Lio: I don’t find these people, they find me. Me: Understandable. Have a nice day.

[@kory_misun]

Once again, a fool tries to fight the family, and once again, we watch a fool lose.

[@ClownPuppie]

This sounded like when I'm trying to have a conversation at 3 am while half asleep

[@TarkTheWild]

Your excuse is being eepy.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

This is why you watch what you say on the internet fellow young adults. There will be people like LioConvoy who will get involved. I respect Lio, and this is proof to why I do. I admit I'm spineless when it comes to things like this, so I keep my opinions to myself and don't share them on the internet. Unless I really need to share my side of an argument, I won't put it out there.

[@blueppaw4490]

OMG I CAN'T *die bc of laughing* "oh now am i stupid?" "oh now you're insulting my parents" "oh now am i offended?" THIS GIRL ASHUASHUASHUASHUASHUASHUASHU

[@limbodecomposing1342]

Im sorry but the "you heard me i didn't stutter" the tone and delivery. Was amazing.

[@cloutman6033]

Don’t lie about being 24 if you’re not prepared to be treated like a 24 year old.

[@kingwarp2516]

The thing is. I'm able to fully belive this persons in their 20s beucase ive met adults like this (mainly in tumblr discourse communitys) its not that much of a stretch to me tbh.

[@vixenflorafoxflows4155]

I'm turning 27 in two months and I know people older than me that still sound and act like this. My initial reaction was someone who sounded extremely drunk, frankly and I've been drinking wine this whole time hoping it might start to make more sense. It hasn't. Like lio legit I am unsure whether or not I should be genuinely concerned or .. *manic laughter*

[@MapleRaine]

I love listening to videos like this while I’m drawing or doing my diamond paintings.

[@PorkiFerret]

The amount of “Oh so you’re doing xyz” and “Um actually” and “Okay and” that was made in this call is absolutely mind numbingly painful to listen to. I’ll give credit where credit is due; to anyone who listens to these calls in real time have some incredible amount patience I can only wish to have.

[@leileyaravencroft]

19:42 - I have to pause a lot through out this video because this woman is INSUFFERABLE! At 19:42, when she asked Peaches if she knew how to cope with stress, I wish there was an invention to reach through the internet and slap someone. She acts like she’s never heard of the term “having someone there for emotional support”. Being able to or unable to cope with stress has nothing to do with it. What Spockter did was disgusting. So what if Lio was sitting in on the call, listening silently? And yes, she was most definitely 24. I seen many people point this out but she has nothing to do with maturity. We all hope that at 24 we will have our lives together but depending on the circumstances of someone’s life, they could have the mentality of someone much younger. Due to a lot of issues (abuse, SA, parentification, etc) I had in my life, at 24, I didn’t behave like I was an adult. Even now, at 40, I have issues and don’t feel like I’m an adult. Edit: I’m not religious either and even I know that “Oh my god” is a shortened version of a prayer that was said in order to receive the help of God. Much like “Bless you” is a shortened version of “God bless you” to prevent the soul from leaving a person’s body when they sneezed since that was once a held belief.

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Well, May not be able to catch this live but will watch this later tonight! (Later that evening) SWEET BABY JESUS!! Once again just another reason why we need to get Lio and his beloved wife a romantic getaway so he can get away from these idiots In fact, I have the perfect place in mind for Lio and his beautiful wife to go on a romantic trip and away from all this craziness; if you’d like to give some suggestions feel free to say so Lio! Hope you are feeling much better Lio (And once more, great chat and we all need to have some kind of movie and pizza night on Senate)

[@saifiles]

Gofundme needed ASAP!!

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

@@saifiles Absolutely! Need to find the perfect romantic spot for Lio and Lady Lio! In fact, since Lio lives in Texas I have a perfect idea of where they can take a trip to and it is wonderful

[@AbigailP02]

Is she trying to gaslight him or is she genuinely that lost in the conversation?

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

I would honestly argue it's a mix of both

[@nitebreak]

i think it’s gaslighting, she pretended not to know things she knew and stufg

[@shinysmeargle2037]

The way this person talks gave me anxiety. It’s very very similar to how a very toxic ex-friend used to talk to me and would purposely try to confuse and gaslight me so I would be quiet and question everything I said. Sexual harassment was also something they would do to me very frequently. I really enjoy seeing how confident you are when confronting this person and others. I was a teenager when I dealt with my stuff so I know this wasn’t possible, but I wish I had your mindset and confidence when I was dealing with that toxic friend.

[@JUST-A-ROBOT-AKA-Jar]

LOL 0:55

[@jenk1092]

Funny then, funny now

[@TrueBuddhaCat]

Hi Jar Have you come to witness this madness as well I think this person may take your place as “lord of the spectrum”

[@lucasl202-61]

I'm so damn glad you post these. Not only does it help me learn how to _not_ argue something, but I'm also learning when it's a good time to just, admit defeat and give up, or when to shut up and listen lol

[@shadow_raven1983]

Oh look at the attitude of her! When she's confronted, she turns into an immature teenager, acting more like a 14 year old than a 24 year old. And even when she came to "apologise", I didn't believe a word she said. All I heard was BS and LIES!

[@StarWarriorRobby]

I get the feeling that whoever that was calling Lio 'frosty' must be one of those freakin' TikTok kids spattin' out their annoying and confusing meme lingo everywhere.

[@SwiggitySwioItsDio]

“Do you wear wigs? Have you ever worn wigs? When will you wear wigs?” 6:58 No but seriously what the f u c k

[@meeklysheepling]

You know, as much as I wanna give people some room to make mistakes of being goofy and stupid in their early to mid 20s: sometimes you gotta call it out when the excessive lying becomes so flipping embarrassing when they think they can keep a straight tone and let all the dishonesty flood on out of their mouth like gross bile. As always, I appreciate y'alls ability to argue. Get some rest and a nice drink: y'all deserve it after these calls.

[@postscriptum6901]

Half an hour in and I feel like I've had several strokes. Bless your soul, Leo 🙏

[@blueppaw4490]

BRO I WAS LOVING HEARING ABOUT HIS ROUTINE

[@SakuraChai]

RIGHT? It was interesting, why interrupt his explanation

[@blueppaw4490]

@@SakuraChai ugh now we'll never know

[@SakuraChai]

@@blueppaw4490 ngl if he did videos about how he structured his days, I’d watch those in a heartbeat

[@blueppaw4490]

@@SakuraChai ok we're going to start a fight on the internet for some reason, get his attention and when we're on the call with him we're going to ask him directly

[@SakuraChai]

@@blueppaw4490 omg if that worked, that would be hilarious, but I think he would just get annoyed

[@itzbeelzebuddy]

she sats she's 24 but has the social comprehension skills of a child, Lio i apologize for having to deal with this nonsense while sick bro

[@missrose769]

o.o This was a journey........I finished so much house work XD from listening to this. Thank you for giving this old lady background wow!

[@kevin4061]

I'm starting to doubt the partner and roommate stuff. Whenever she gets called on stuff, she blames it on someone or something else. Deflectacon doesn't just sound a username but her way of life.

[@gmodman2000]

Imagine doing sexual harassment and saying it's a "joke". Get the Sexual Harassment Panda here my god.

[@MiniStressBall]

I feel like I am having a stroke listening to this 24 year old adult try to speak

[@xXKuromimiChanxX]

This girl is the definition of terminally online. This was crazy. (also when her mom walked in that was just the cherry on top... xD)

[@xXMilkuwuXx]

So this is going to be really late and I doubt anyone will see it. But, every time this person speaks, you can hear a fidget spinner going off over her mic so that explains why shes so "distracted"

[@foxglovearts1129]

Fidget tools help with focus.

[@tabbytha-vt]

She didn't sound like an adult. I'm sure this was a 16 year old honestly

[@lunerwolf6588]

I’ve been binging some of your videos now and I think this is the first time I’ve actually heard you raise your voice in one of your videos confronting idiots

[@StarrLights]

my favorite part about these calls is Lio psychologically destroying these people Like if I was in some deep shit and some dude got in a call and started interrogating me like this I would've probably caved from paranoia Also Lio yelling in the beginning/middle of the video actually scared me LMAO I would've started crying if it were me