Lion vs Tiger Who is the Real King - (Expert Podcast Breakdown)

[@grinchoi1]

Speed, strength, agility, bite force and muscle ratio all go to the tiger. I'm going Tiger in most cases. But as you say it also depends on the individual animal

[@zoooloogist]

Thank you for sharing your insights! You make some great points about the tiger's attributes. Tigers are indeed known for their remarkable speed, strength, agility, and powerful bite force. Their muscular build and solitary hunting lifestyle have honed their abilities to take down large prey on their own. On the other hand, lions, especially male lions, are accustomed to fighting to defend their pride and territory. This constant interaction can make them formidable opponents. As you mentioned, it often comes down to the individual animal-their size, experience, and even the environment in which they encounter each other.

[@pattrell5257]

@grinchoi1 Bite force means little in a claw fight: Clawing and grappling mean more. Bite force, in this kind of fight, is after the kjII or if one of them got the other in a compromised position so that a bite cannot be challenged. That's why single hyenas never beat single lions. I mean, the clawing and grappling wins the fight; then, the lion bites...

[@eutnikuyaatbpeatunwindandt9444]

​@@pattrell5257lolz do you know that tiger has more powerful swipe and larger paw than a lion? Lmao

[@pattrell5257]

@eutnikuyaatbpeatunwindandt9444 Listen, a lion is like a grizzly that is about about 1/2-2/3 the size. That's how they fight and they have plenty of experience: from both within the pride and from cast-out, envious male lions(particularly in prides that have one lion and there are 2 or 3 brothers to challenge them). In addition, a male lion is tough like a grizzly that size, too.

[@jancyvargheese5351]

@@eutnikuyaatbpeatunwindandt9444tigers have bigger paws, but lions have longer front limbs that can generate more swipe force

[@clydepratt250]

A lions mane protecting him is an advantage too!!

[@TJSaw]

In 2011, a tiger in the Ankara zoo killed a male lion with a single swipe. Severed his jugular. The mane didn’t do shit.

[@jancyvargheese5351]

@@TJSawthat was a small female lion, which the tiger surprise attacked when it’s back was turned. If that was a grown male lion, that tiger would have turned the other way

[@MesutTemiz]

@@jancyvargheese5351 It was not a "small female lion", but a "fully grown male lion"...

[@jancyvargheese5351]

@@MesutTemiz no, it wasn’t a fully grown male lion. It was a young or female lion which was attacked by surprise. That doesn’t mean anything

[@MesutTemiz]

@@jancyvargheese5351 It was a FULLY GROWN MALE LION... I am a Turkish citizen and was living in Ankara then, where this sad incident happened... I closely followed the news about it...

[@Mahim1995]

Lions fight more regularly than Tigers and have the mane advantage. But I guess some Tiger specimens are a bit too outsized, so the power difference cannot be ignored.

[@zoooloogist]

Good points! Lions definitely have the advantage of experience from frequent fights, especially males who constantly defend their pride and territory. The mane also offers some protection, which is a unique advantage in combat. But as you mentioned, some tiger specimens, especially larger Siberian or Bengal tigers, can be quite powerful and have a noticeable size advantage. Both are apex predators with strengths suited to their environments-lions with teamwork and resilience, and tigers with stealth and sheer power. It’s fascinating to consider how their adaptations make them so impressive in different ways!

[@TJSaw]

How do you know that? Lions are just more easily filmed because it’s easier to film on the savannah than it is in the jungles of India.

[@skkhanna4412]

@@zoooloogist Bro Bengal Tigers fight all the time.... I am a camera trapper & I am witness to that.... I have witnessed Tigers like Chotta Matka cannibalising on losing Tigers.... Tigers are notorious for eating Leopards as well

[@YourSpaceMyFace]

But most importantly we acknowledge the beauty, power and beauty both of these wonderful beasts have. No human or even 10 humans, unarmed is a match for a full grown male Lion or Tiger. They are REAL apex predators.

[@zoooloogist]

Absolutely! Both lions and tigers are awe-inspiring, combining beauty, strength, and incredible skill as apex predators. Their power is unmatched, and it’s true-no unarmed human could stand a chance against a fully grown male lion or tiger. They’re incredible animals deserving of respect and admiration in their own unique ways!

[@clydepratt250]

A lions lifestyle requires them to fight more so they’re more experienced at fighting naturally then tigers are and tigers try to avoid fights because an injury could prevent them from hunting to where a male lions only job is to protect the cubs and females from other male lions and hyenas!!

[@zoooloogist]

Good points! Lions do have a lifestyle that involves frequent confrontations, especially males who constantly defend their pride and territory, so they’re definitely experienced fighters. Their social structure also means they face off with rival lions and other threats like hyenas more often. On the other hand, as solitary hunters, tigers tend to avoid unnecessary risks since they rely on their own strength and stealth for survival. Both animals have unique skills suited to their environments-lions with cooperative strength and experience, and tigers with stealth and powerful hunting ability. It’s always fascinating to see how their different lifestyles shape their behavior and fighting styles!

[@cosmic_reign9979]

It's simply debating! ;) Yes, much of this is taken into consideration when debating. What makes it easier OR harder is that many debate topics pit "Prime, Similar size, Neutral Environment" all within in the header... Nice Video btw...

[@zoooloogist]

Thanks for your comment! You're absolutely right-setting parameters like "prime condition," "similar size," and "neutral environment" does make the debate more balanced and engaging. It helps focus the discussion on the animals' abilities without external factors influencing the outcome. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@YOSEMITEVUE-fo9tu]

Lion the real king

[@DeusVult-q3f]

Why is nobody mentioning how more and more lions have smaller mane by each generation and it's devolving every day by day?

[@ortonhruaia8440]

Simply because noone ever said that 👍👍

[@zoooloogist]

The size and fullness of a lion's mane can vary due to factors like climate, genetics, health, and testosterone levels. In warmer climates, lions often have shorter or lighter manes to help dissipate heat. There's no widespread evidence that lions are developing smaller manes with each generation globally. Changes in mane size are more likely influenced by environmental conditions rather than a sign of "devolution.

[@mr.squanch]

The King would be the Barbary lion. Unfortunately, it recently became extinct because people do stupid things. I think there was a few in a zoo in Morocco until recently. So Sad. These lions were the largest and had the most massive manes of all the subspecies of the panthera leon because their habitat extended to the snow-capped peaks of the Atlas Mountains. I believe that this was also the only subspecies that lived solitarily and not in packs as lions normally do. The males of this subspecies were true giants. What also makes the lion the favorite in my opinion is that fighting is an everyday occurrence for the males. Fighting, protecting the group is the real reason for the male's existence in the pack. The females usually hunt. Males only participate when there is large prey such as buffalo.Fighting is much more normal among lions than it is among tigers.

[@zoooloogist]

Thank you for sharing such insightful information about the Barbary lion! It's indeed heartbreaking that these majestic creatures have become extinct in the wild due to human activities. The Barbary lion was renowned for its impressive size and the distinctive, extensive mane that covered its belly and sides, likely an adaptation to the colder climates of the Atlas Mountains. Regarding their social behavior, while most lions are known for living in prides, there's some debate about the Barbary lion's lifestyle due to the challenging environment they inhabited. Some theories suggest that they might have lived in smaller groups or had different social structures compared to other lion subspecies. However, complete solitary living is less characteristic of lions in general. You make a great point about male lions and their frequent involvement in fights to protect their pride and territory. This constant interaction does give them a lot of experience in combat situations. Tigers, being solitary animals, might not engage in territorial fights as often, but they are still incredibly powerful predators with their own survival strategies.

[@harrygreb3457]

Grizzly bear smokes both

[@yashiyahatlas8496]

God says Lion. So I am definitely going with Lion as well. Proverbs 30:30 [30]A lion which is strongest among beasts, and turneth not away for any;

[@zoooloogist]

That's a great point! The lion definitely has an iconic place in history and symbolism, especially in the Bible. Proverbs 30:30 is a powerful verse that emphasizes the lion's strength and fearless nature. While the lion holds the title of 'King of the Jungle' and has a strong symbolic presence, both the lion and the tiger are incredible and unique animals in their own right. Nature has a way of making each animal uniquely powerful!

[@theworldreportbydr.rothschild]

@@yashiyahatlas8496 the tiger is bigger, stronger, more agile, larger brain size etc.

[@yashiyahatlas8496]

@@theworldreportbydr.rothschild - your opinion. God Almighty is the epitome of facts. Lions slaughter tigers

[@theworldreportbydr.rothschild]

@ the evidence proves that is nonsense and that book was written by human beings who says owning people as property is ok. What nonsense. In turkey a tiger kills a lion with one blow. In fights tiger comes out on top most of the time. Your creation story came from the ahtra asis .

[@theworldreportbydr.rothschild]

@ your creation story came from the Ahra asis and your book was written by humans . The tiger is bigger, stronger, more agile, greater bite force and mostly fights alone.

[@shaun5761]

My favorite one and only king 🐯👑

[@shivasahilraj25]

Nice video sir 👍♥️

[@shivasahilraj25]

And lion is more intelligent than tige. Fun fact- Social animals are more intelligent than solitary animals.. also bigger brain doesn't mean more intelligent. For example blue whale has larger brain than dolphin but dolphin is more intelligent and polar bear has also larger brain than chimpanzee.... also a study says lion is smartest big cat. Lion sloves puzzles faster than tiger and other big cats....

[@jancyvargheese5351]

There is so many misinformation here. Lions do live in the jungles. They historically lived in the jungles of India, and still do today in one location, which is more of a forest, not a proper jungle. It’s called the gir national park in Gujarat, western India. Lions also live in the jungles of Ethiopia. They historically lived in the jungles of Mesopotamia, Iraq until they were hunted to extinction by the 1800s and early 1900s. They inhabited all the Middle East, North Africa, the Caucasus mountains like Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iran, Israel, Saudi, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc. The term the king of the jungle was given by us Indians to the lion, despite tigers being more in population and found in more areas of India, while lions lived in north western, central and eastern ganges plains of India, and didn’t live in the Himalayas and South Indian areas, which had thick jungles, that suited tigers more. The lion was the emblem of the 2300 year old Ashokas Mauryan empire, despite tigers being more numerous. Indians use the surname singh for warrior castes like the rajputs, and the sikhs of punjab. According to Indian historian Kailash Sinhala, Indian lions used to dominate and win most battles against Bengal tigers when they coexisted together until the late 1800s. The lion was hunted to extinction from most of India, just like the cheetah, by the mughal empire and the british empire. And african lions can weigh up to 600 pounds. 420 pounds is the average weight. This video showed the max size of Bengal and Siberian tigers, while using the average weight and length of lions, which is very unfair, and biased. Lions can also reach 10 or 11 feet in length, but most importantly, lions are half a foot taller than the tiger at the shoulder at 4 feet vs 3.5 feet for the tiger, giving the lion a significant advantage in a head to head battle. Lions have denser and thicker bones, making them stronger. Lions have the highest muscle percentage of all mammals at 59 to 62 percent vs 56 to 59 percent for tigers. Lions also have bigger forequarters, and are more front heavy, like the shoulders, neck, chest, hips, back, spine, while tigers have thicker, shorter, stronger forelimbs and stronger hind legs for jumping high, good balance, and for standing up. Lions have bigger lungs and heart, and much more stamina and endurance, giving them a big advantage over the tiger if it goes past 15 mins

[@zoooloogist]

Thank you for sharing such detailed and fascinating information! You’ve clearly done a lot of research, and your points about the lion’s historical range and significance in Indian culture, as well as the physical differences between lions and tigers, are very insightful. You’re absolutely right that lions did inhabit forested areas historically, including the Gir Forest in India, which is a unique and important habitat today. The cultural context you provided, like the lion's association with empires and the surname ‘Singh,’ adds a rich layer of understanding to why lions hold such a revered place in history. Regarding the video, it’s worth noting that every comparison like this has its limitations, especially when dealing with averages and extremes for size and strength. It’s always tricky to balance all the variables (habitat, physiology, and fighting styles) when comparing two incredible animals like lions and tigers. Thank you again for taking the time to sharing your thoughts with us.

[@jancyvargheese5351]

@ you are welcome 🤗

[@MakaMalum-r9y]

Yap yap yap

[@ajay.r.m2042]

You guys talk about lions having combat experience more than a tiger is a biased scenario. And, saying that tigers aren't good at night vision compared to lions is a total joke

[@zoooloogist]

Thanks for your comment! Let's clear up a few things. When we talk about lions having more combat experience, it's based on their social behavior. Male lions frequently engage in fights with other males to defend their pride or territory, which gives them practical experience in one-on-one combat. Tigers, being solitary hunters, don't face that kind of repeated direct competition. That said, it doesn’t mean tigers are any less formidable, they’re incredibly skilled and powerful in their own right! As for night vision, both lions and tigers are apex predators with exceptional night vision, far better than humans. Any suggestion that one significantly outperforms the other in this area would need more solid evidence. Both are highly capable hunters in low light conditions, so we agree that dismissing tigers’ night vision would be inaccurate. Thanks for pointing that out, debates like these make discussions even more interesting!

[@MrDemian81]

Lions have a slight advantage in visibility at night, the same advantage tigers have in bite strength. 1050 psi vs 1000 psi. Mainly based on everything I have heard, seen and read, it is very difficult to determine which animal is stronger. I think that is impossible. But one thing is certain. Due to their different way of life and character (perhaps some other things as well), one of these two animals will never give up or run away, and will always go to the end.

[@ortonhruaia8440]

Why is this debate still going on , its really an absolute domination by the Lion when videos are around ... Everyone has seen Lion vs tiger videos and an unbiased mind can make out who is indeed the dominant cat .The tiger fan base is based on lies , nothing to show what their articles said in almost every videos today . Tiger fans are liars and exaggerate alot about what a tiger can do to different animals but as we all know , their exaggerations are always debunk when video proofs are around .... The future debate should be , Why 3 tigers ran for their lives with just a stare from the King , Why even a Lioness can live with 7+ tigers and tigresses and became the alpha/ matriach , Why even Lioness dare to fight and fend off multiple tigers or tigresses when food is at stake and Why even multiple tigers fears a single Lion so much ,''' These debate would be fair and interesting because unlike all tiger fans articles , they are all caught on videos multple times .👍👍👍

[@zoooloogist]

t's great to have enthusiasm for these amazing animals, but let's remember that both lions and tigers are incredible in their own right. Debates aside, appreciating each species for their unique strengths makes the conversation more enriching for everyone.

[@ortonhruaia8440]

@@zoooloogist I know you have seen it too and its really a 1 sided domination by the Lion when Lions are around . The only thing that made Lion vs tiger debate alive are just because of the lies exaggerations and lies from tigers fan base ,

[@MakaMalum-r9y]

If you stopped watching Lion King,gain some actual knowledge and do your actual researches this debate would have never happened you Lion fankids can't accept your kitty getting destroyed by Tiger

[@noyb12345]

Lions will definitely own tigers in the hair department 😉

[@zoooloogist]

Indeed they do.

[@clydepratt250]

In reality lion wins easily and tiger runs away like usual!!

[@marko87ish]

no. maybe in your dreams, reality is different.

[@MakaMalum-r9y]

Nobody cares

[@DKS-75]

Not many realize that Tigers are territorial too. They fight other Tigers for territory.

[@zoooloogist]

You're absolutely right! Tigers are highly territorial animals and will aggressively defend their territory against other tigers. Male tigers, in particular, often engage in fierce battles over territory and mating rights. These confrontations can be intense and sometimes result in serious injuries. Thanks for pointing that out!

[@jorgealvesdelima1788]

Mathematics doesn’t help to define who is winner …. I believe Lion have won the fight against bengal tiger. Sorry tiger lovers.

[@JoeBaty]

@@jorgealvesdelima1788 what about a Siberian tiger , sorry Lions

[@jorgealvesdelima1788]

@ Siberian tiger is no longer the largest in the wild ….big ones live in the zoos. Bengal tiger may be larger than Siberian because of lot of food …. I have seen lion beat Siberian tigers in my father farm called Kirongozi fazenda

[@eutnikuyaatbpeatunwindandt9444]

​@@jorgealvesdelima1788sorry Disney lion fan. Tiger could kill your dream lion with no sweat 😂

[@JoeBaty]

@jorgealvesdelima1788 I could make up a story about a farm to combat your statement, I will stick to my unproven facts nice talking yu u have a nice day

[@zoooloogist]

We have a video on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4CQl5afob-Nj7s

[@Imafanofbacons]

What's the basis or scientific proof that Lions are more accustomed to fighting than Tigers?

[@zoooloogist]

Great question! The idea that lions are more accustomed to fighting than tigers mainly comes from their social structure. Male lions often face threats from rival males trying to take over their pride, which means they regularly fight to defend their territory, cubs, and mating rights. This social pressure results in frequent confrontations, making them naturally more experienced in fighting situations. Tigers, on the other hand, are solitary by nature. They avoid fights when possible because an injury could compromise their ability to hunt and survive alone. So while tigers are incredibly powerful and skilled hunters, they don’t encounter the same frequency of social combat that lions do. Both have impressive fighting abilities but adapt to different lifestyles!

[@TJSaw]

@@zoooloogist A male tiger will also fight other males to keep the females in his territory his own. It’s just that it’s not that frequently filmed. I love how you try to make factual statements based on incomplete data.

[@Imafanofbacons]

@@zoooloogist TJSaw nailed it. Just because tiger fights aren't as frequently filmed doesn't meant it's not happening as often. Size, Strength, AGILITY favors the tiger. These are facts you can't just easily dismiss.

[@Imafanofbacons]

How can something just physically weaker overpower something stronger and agile than it in a real fight to death scenario?

[@zoooloogist]

@TJSaw, You're absolutely right that male tigers do fight other males to defend their territory and mates, it’s a critical part of their solitary life. However, these fights tend to occur less frequently than the dominance battles seen in lions, simply because tiger territories are often much larger, reducing the chances of direct confrontations. The difference lies in social structure, lions live in prides, and male lions are frequently challenged by rivals for control of the group. This constant competition gives male lions more regular practice in combat. For tigers, while territorial disputes can be intense and deadly, they occur on a more sporadic basis due to their solitary nature. We aim to present the most accurate information, but you're right, wildlife data often has gaps due to the difficulty of observing such behaviors consistently. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@jamessmith3978]

I do not think that I have ever heard so much crap expounded as thoughtful input. The tiger can stand on its powerful hind legs and batter the lion with its forepaws, while the lion (with week hind legs) can only defend, with one forepaw at a time. The tiger's greater bite force, coupled with greater weight, strength and leaping ability makes it a very hard target to subdue. The tiger, not the lion is the major ambush predator, while the lion depends on co-operative hunting. The tiger depends on his/her own abilities, not a pride for survival, in a one on one confrontation, I give the tiger 9 out of 10 at the very least to win.

[@zoooloogist]

While it’s true that tigers are generally solitary and rely on their individual skills, and they have a slight advantage in weight and strength on average, it’s not as clear-cut as it may seem. Lions also have powerful forelimbs and an incredibly robust build, especially male lions who often fight other males over territory or dominance, which gives them a unique toughness. Both animals have their strengths-tigers are exceptional ambush hunters with stealth and agility, while lions are used to face-to-face conflicts, often with other lions. In reality, an outcome would depend on the specific individuals, their size, age, experience, and conditions of the fight. Nature doesn’t always have straightforward answers!

[@suavesmoothsigma1782]

One who acknowledges comrades is true king? Who forms a king on thier own?

[@zoooloogist]

Well put! After all, what's a king without his comrades? Lions rule with their pride-literally!

[@markwhelan9887]

Tigers have far better ballance than lions and the power of a tigers swipe in comparison to a lion's is far superior. The tiger also has the sheer size factor and bite force. Male tigers are solitery hunters more often than not male lions rely on the females to catch the prey. Although they do hunt on their own so if a very dominant male or female of either species in the right environment or under the right conditions may take the Win.

[@SUPERBACTIONUNIVERSEHERO-wr9zg]

No swipe is superior than a Lion. No tiger is near the size of a Lions breakfast

[@SUPERBACTIONUNIVERSEHERO-wr9zg]

Male lions hunt.

[@markwhelan9887]

@@SUPERBACTIONUNIVERSEHERO-wr9zg do some research pal the Siberian tiger is much bigger in size and weight as well as tigers have the ability to stand on their back legs whilst hitting each other with heavy blows a male lion is Top heavy thus it's more likely to have one front leg on the ground when the other is in the air. I'm not sure why you think the lion is bigger and stronger the only lion that was near the weight of a Siberian tiger was the Barberry lion they have not been seen in over 100 years. The mail lion may be close to the Bengal tiger of India. But definitely not the mighty Russian cat.

[@alanjipy55]

@@SUPERBACTIONUNIVERSEHERO-wr9zg Standing on hind legs gives the tiger an advantage, by standing taller than a lion.. Swiping the head below, plus more speed and stonger swipes, with more leverage in each swipe. The power comes from the spring from the hind legs, then into the chest area with stonger muscular arms.. If a lion is standing on 3 legs while swiping, (where) does most of the body weight go?.. ON.. 3 LEGS.. with less power in swiping. I'ts common sense.. Lol.

[@alanjipy55]

@@markwhelan9887 The large size of the Barbary lion was a myth due to longer thicker mane.. They were no bigger than any other lion population.. Infact they were the same size Asiaic lions and identical to the latter.. Any lion that lives in a cold climate with have the same longer thicker mane.. And the weights were unreliable estimates.

[@DKS-75]

Speed, strength, agility, bite force, bigger canines, bigger claws, ability to stand for longer duration on hind legs and above all bigger brains all goes in favour of the Tiger. For the Lion it is stamina, experience and mane. A Lion will have no chance against a Tiger who has killed a lion once otherwise it will be a 60%-40% in favour of the Tiger.

[@zoooloogist]

You make some interesting points! Tigers do have physical advantages like larger size, stronger bite force, longer canines, and greater agility. They can also balance on their hind legs for extended periods. Lions, on the other hand, benefit from stamina, combat experience from social living, and a protective mane. The outcome of a confrontation could depend on many factors, including individual size, age, and experience. It's a complex topic, and both animals have unique strengths that could influence the result.

[@alanjipy55]

Lions dont have night vision advantage.

[@zoooloogist]

Thanks for your comment! You're correct in noting that lions and tigers actually share similar night vision capabilities. Both species have a high number of rod cells in their retinas and a special reflective layer behind their retinas called the tapetum lucidum, which enhances their ability to see in low light. This adaptation is common among nocturnal hunters, enabling both lions and tigers to effectively hunt at night. Appreciate you joining the discussion and shedding light on this aspect!

[@alanjipy55]

@@zoooloogist The only advantage a lion would have, would be extra sets of eyes. You'er welcome.. No worries.

[@TenaciousKing]

​​@@zoooloogist Lions have more fighting experience and are a lot better fighters, they fight more than tigers, tigers always try to avoid the fights, also lions and tigers have similar bite force about 1000 pounds, the myth that lions have bite force of '600' pounds is outdated, it was measured by national geographic on a sub adult lion, but national geographic stated that adult lions would have similar bite force to tiger that is 1000+ pounds

[@Gamer-dude247]

Tiger - King of the Jungle. LionESS - Queen of the Savana. Lion is not King. Tiger Vs Lion = Tiger wins 10/10.

[@shaun5761]

Definitely 💯

[@eutnikuyaatbpeatunwindandt9444]

Does a single lion could kill a crocodile? Lolz i dare any lion fans here to show evidence then ill show mine. If not case closed! Lmao 😂😂😂

[@zoooloogist]

While it's not common, there are instances where a single lion has killed a crocodile, especially when the crocodile is smaller or on land away from water. Lions have been observed attacking crocodiles during territorial disputes or when competing for food. However, large crocodiles can be formidable opponents and pose a significant threat to lions. The outcome often depends on factors like size, environment, and which animal has the advantage at the time.

[@DarnizzleMan]

Tiger's have more of an advantage on lions than jaguars have on leopards, Tiger's are the most ferocious animal on land a lone lion cant take down a Buffalo but a lone female tiger can take down a full grown gaur we need to stop this argument Tiger is king

[@sidneywilder2731]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣gaurs are some of the most easily killed animals in the world they don't even fight back lol ...and tigers are not ferocious like that they're runners 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️ they run from fights ....and I've seen lone lions 🦁 take down Buffaloes plenty of times......your whole comment was false everything you said was false.....seen lions kill tigers with my own eyes 👀

[@zoooloogist]

Tigers are indeed powerful hunters and can take down large prey like gaur solo, showing their impressive strength. However, lions are also highly skilled, especially when it comes to teamwork in prides, which enables them to tackle large animals like buffalo. Both have unique adaptations and hunting styles suited to their environments, so it’s less about which is "king" and more about each big cat’s unique strengths and strategies. Both are top predators in their own right!

[@TenaciousKing]

Dude tigers aren't ferocious, there are videos where tigers can't even intimidate a sloth bear.

[@sidneywilder2731]

@@TenaciousKing lol my comment was deleted 😂, I said ferocious? Tigers are not ferocious like that ,they're shy and cowardly creatures, lions 🦁 are ferocious, leopards, sloth bears ,bears are ferocious to name a few ,but in India sloth bears are way more ferocious than tigers, I hate to say it because tigers are somewhat my 2nd favorite cat ,leopards are kinda my 2nd favorite cat ,they're ferocious indeed ,killers ,fighters ,a male leopard would fight a lion 🦁 or a tiger ....1 vs 1 let's go !!!!!!!!!!! That's a leopards mentality 👏 that's why I like leopards, they're also the lions closest relative of the big cats, tigers close to snow leopards which aren't really leopards but still big cat panther cat

[@TenaciousKing]

@@sidneywilder2731 leopards wouldn't dare to fight a lion

[@suavesmoothsigma1782]

And still cant overwhelm the conglomerate?

[@zoooloogist]

You bring up an excellent point! While tigers are incredibly powerful, agile, and have a strong bite force, their solitary nature can be a disadvantage when facing a group. Lions, on the other hand, are social animals that live and hunt in prides-a sort of "conglomerate." This group dynamic allows them to coordinate and support each other during confrontations.

[@suavesmoothsigma1782]

If they can manage the Savanah?

[@0omegaxprime1]

Lies lies and more bs

[@zoooloogist]

Sounds like you’re skeptical! Any specific part you disagree with? Would be interesting to hear your take on it!

[@КапитанКрюк-ь6ц]

Мы знаем историю, а это факты и они говорят однозначно, хотя нет правил без исключений. Кому выгодно из этих исключений, из этой мухи, раздувать слона?

[@zoooloogist]

История показывает, что львы играли более значимую роль в культуре Древнего Рима. Они символизировали силу и величие, были чаще представлены в аренах и искусстве. Исключения, где тигры побеждали, скорее всего, отражают редкие события или художественную драматизацию, а не общий исторический факт.