Lionel's J3a Hudson with Water Scoop Steam Effect

It's Day 4 of the 2021 Eric's Trains Christmas Bonanza - Eight videos in eight days, starting on Christmas Day and end of New Year's Day! For day 4 we'll be checking out Lionel's O Scale NYC J3a Hudson with the water scoop steam effect!
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[@brendanstrains9725]

That is a awesome locomotive! It looks and sounds amazing! One J3a did almost make it out but was scrapped by mistake. It was supposed to go to the National Museum Of Transportation in St. Louis. But when it was scrapped by mistake the nyc instead sent Mohawk 2933 to go to St. Louis.

[@blairterry9435]

Cool.

[@Leaden-plural0]

Coolest

[@blairterry9435]

@Seth Mason You got me?

[@blairterry9435]

@Seth Mason What I'm trying to say when that J3a was scrapped it was replaced by 2933.

[@brendanstrains9725]

@@blairterry9435 your right I don’t exactly remember which number all I know is it is ethier 5433 or 5441. Those are the only two that almost got saved.

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

The J3a was a practically future proofed steam locomotive I really wish I could see one rolling down the rails today. Beautiful model based of a prestigious engine good video Eric.

[@nikerailfanningttm9046]

J3A: Future “proofed” EMD FT: *”HOLD MY RADIATOR COOLANT CAN”*

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

@@nikerailfanningttm9046 and yet there’s only two reserved 😂

[@TrainTracker911]

You are to be envied. I could never afford these Lionel trains. The only way I get to enjoy them is to watch your videos. Please keep them rolling on.

[@joeyBirskovich]

and why not?

[@illbehim]

Incredible, how well these engines can run

[@timothymclaughlin6860]

Phenomenal affects on that tender . Beautiful Train Guy. It’s a blast to watch .

[@henryszubielski8601]

Beautiful locomotive with excellent effects! Glad you did this video.

[@ryanwomack9078]

There’s my locomotive that mr Eric has reviewed that’s my favorite locomotive that I wanted him to review I’ve been waiting for him to review this locomotive for a long time

[@bigharryyy03]

The only thing I don’t like about this Hudson is the fact that it still has its Elesco feedwater heater, when it should have had the Worthington one by the time the PT tender was fitted.

[@pjg1216]

What's the difference between the two? Which should be on which Hudson? Where would I find that kind of detail information? Check the video in the comment above... Which feedwater heater is on that Hudson? Thanks.

[@bigharryyy03]

@@pjg1216 Elesco is like a tube on the front of the boiler. It is more prominent on the NYC’s earlier Mohawks and the Southern PS-4 Pacifics for example. Worthington is like a rectangular one that is seen on many later C&O engines, including the Allegheny and Kanawha. The J3a’s were built with Elescos, but later had Worthingtons fitted. IMO the Worthingtons are better looking, and since they are a later addition to the Hudsons, it makes more sense for them to be present on a Hudson with a PT tender since they didn’t receive the tenders until 1945.

[@pjg1216]

@@bigharryyy03 That's really interesting. Which heater is pictured on the Hudson in the Video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKPPYoueodVlsNE Thanks

[@bigharryyy03]

@@pjg1216 That is definitely an Elesco.

[@pjg1216]

@@bigharryyy03 Thanks, glad to know. From what I know, it was built by the actual engineer of 5204. He copied the full size one.

[@Fridge56Vet]

Love the Hudson & the NYC. 👍

[@haroldbenton979]

The reason why they had the pipes was to vent the air pressure from the scooping. Normally on the NYC they took water at over 90 MPH and without the venting of those pipes they would literally explode the tender. They could refill the tender in less than a mile at that speed. The PT tender allowed the NYC to run steam engines hundreds of miles before needing coal.

[@timothystevenhoward]

the only thing sad about this... all the prototypes were scrapped. Beautiful model.

[@danikoo582]

prototypes??

[@MrStevesTrains]

Love the Hudson’s and Mohawk’s steam engines.

[@northpennvalleysteamrailroad]

Awesome locomotive! I love the water scoop effect!

[@BXGUY73]

@ERIC's TRAINS - THE SOUND EFFECT when the WATER is being filled into the TENDER reminds me of the SHOW: "MARRIED WITH CHILDREN" when Al Bundy would finish using the toilet and FLUSH. LOL!

[@joeyBirskovich]

oh yeah

[@ajcaiati]

HAPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL

[@TobyPasman]

Have you thought of doing a video featuring a doubleheader of Nickel Plate 765 and Pere Marquette 1225?

[@johnmagnusson7545]

Very nice locomotive and nice and cool passenger cars

[@vincentvanpaepeghem4844]

Great video Eric! Awesome looking and sounding locomotive! Love the water spray effects! Thanks for sharing! Have a great and awesome day!

[@Thomasthestreamliner]

What I noticed about the model is that it's whistle almost sounds like a mix between the Niagaras and the U.S.A.A 4-6-6T tank engine. Still very cool model

[@davvonmckenzie3911]

beautiful engine

[@brucewilliamson9818]

Hi Eric, Stumbled on your channel last year and am writing to tell you how I love watching what you are putting out.I love the O guage layout you have set up. I had a large post war..mid 50's --60's Lionel 027 layout in our basement. 5 locos...lots of rolling stock and was challenged at running more than a single train at a time. Did manage to put in some blocks to kill power to various sections of track but nothing like exists now. Keep it up..you are reaching a large group. Loved every minute with my best friend down there. My grandmother lived in New York City and would take the NYCentral thru southern Ontario crossing at Buffalo and then on to Windsor/Detroit. There was a whistle stop in Waterford Ontario with scoops for taking water on board "on the fly". Pretty cool at age 6 to see this . Best wishes Bruce Williamson

[@blairterry9435]

Nice Lionel engine Eric. I got several Lionel pieces including the 1990s era California Zephyr set with scale Rio Grande Alco PA-1 A-B-A with first generation railsounds. I also got a newer Southern Pacific 4-6-2 from Lionel's 2021 Volume 1 Catalog. The final item I got a PWC C&O NW-2 No. 624 with Trainmaster Command Control and Railsounds 2. Cool thing is that the engine was made in 1998 the same year my Texas Special F3 set was made.

[@mrsaturngamingandstories]

The 4-6-4 wheel arrangement was originally called the Baltic Type but the New York Central Railroad renamed it to The Hudson Type

[@angelhelp6819]

Eric I like all your videos and that you saw the end and 🚂 very excellent give you a hundred percent I like the j3

[@RDS51403]

That water scoop effect is way too cool 😎

[@wrangler70jkujeep74]

Super amazing locomotive with water smoke effect wow . Passenger cars sound 💪❤️❤️

[@austinniederjohn9813]

I sometimes forget stuff too eric no worries man love the channel watch every video

[@ronstrainsandmore]

Wow just an outstanding locomotive!!

[@rickshawley7683]

Nice job Eric

[@jamesrecon14]

I love this setup 😍

[@markslioneltrains]

Fantastic Locomotive.! Hope to have one like it some day for sure.! Thanks for your work putting these videos together 👍Mark 😊

[@garyjust.johnson1436]

Great video, awesome locomotive!

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

You are going to forget that you have the Alaska F7 ABBA set too! :-)

[@Autorailrun2006]

10 out of 10 love the j3a

[@Chessie1985]

Excellent engine and i liked the water scoop affect Eric!!!

[@ErikVince]

That water steam filler effect is cool

[@rainierbagatsing1073]

You got the super j3a Hudson from the new York Central.

[@DavidRamirez-ww5kv]

Nice video Eric. The Hudson went fast; would have love to see.

[@Elios0000]

they should reissue the old Kit Hudson be fun to build

[@spaceonix_5882]

I really would have liked to see this next to the 700e!

[@V-max97]

Awesome engine!

[@randyjacobs9489]

Unicorn for sure!

[@coverdalemineoscalemodelrr7074]

Awesome Engine thanks

[@razvanvacariu3152]

Super!

[@mr.shadestrains6033]

Very kool Awsum video 🚂😎👍

[@saaaahduuuuude1228]

In the future can you show what this looks like at mainline speeds? The point of NYC's water pans were for high speed refilling. It's a large part of what allowed the 20th Century Limited to beat Pennsy's trains from NY to Chicago, would love to see this effect done prototypically. Your layout is amazing and I would be thrilled to see you do that in a future running session

[@Ericstrains]

The effect looks better at lower speeds...mainly due to the fact that it's smoke and not real water lol.

[@brianlohr3412]

love the engine

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

This is the one that you'd forgotten that you had, with the water tender! Oops...I see that you told the story... :-)

[@johndickson5370]

Hi I just purchased this engine and my tender steam is very light, can barely see it, how do you get so much smoke out of yours I’m using jt mega steam

[@justanf40phrailfan21]

Cool i do like New York Central

[@saxonaudio]

NYC 1950’s: maybe this should be in saint Louis. NYC after scrapping the Hudson: oops, mistake MISTAKE! NYC sends Mohawk 2933 to saint Louis.

[@SaturnMist09]

Hello Eric, I have a quick quesiton. It looks like an extra wire with heat shrink is located between the loco and the tender on the drawbar, extra power conectivity between the two? I have this exact same locomotive and loco 5410 from the same release and neither have any extra connections, however, I have not had any problems with them. Thank you so much for all of the great videos! Wonderful to see the VL baggage car on the layout.

[@105C09]

Actually, those pipes that emit the water effect where part of the pressure relief system. Without it, the water pressure would burst the tender water tank.

[@BXGUY73]

@ERIC'S TRAINS - Did LIONEL add the "MOVING BELL" FEATURE to this model of the NY CENTRAL J3A HUDSON? If NOT why would they add it to one model and not the other of the SAME J3A HUDSON?

[@ajcaiati]

Eric, That J3-A is gorgeous, it’s out of my reach, I do enjoy watching your videos. In my personal opinion you do an excellent job. Thanks for sharing Eric. I do have a question for you. What do you use to clean your FASTRACK rails? I’ve been using a scotch bright pad with a little alcohol on it, then finish off with a paper towel with a little alcohol. My layout is seasonal for the Holidays and the fastrack is on the living room floor. Thanks Eric

[@stevewells4927]

So I guess you'll be installing a water pan section somewhere on your layout?

[@andrewjackson9417]

I think the water scoop effect would work much better if the train was going a lot faster.

[@Ericstrains]

Maybe in person, but on camera it looks better at a lower speed.

[@andrewjackson9417]

@@Ericstrains I actually just (yesterday) received a K-line Hudson I got used but in immacualte condition. This is my second K-line, and I love them. This one has TMCC, Railsounds, synchronised smoke unit. The full monty. I would look at the K-lines.

[@kristalkat7939]

I like to see a double header of this Hudson and the 700e Hudson

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

Lionel part number 1931460. I think these are lonnggg gone, as Eric says. I snagged one about 9 months ago. It is a very cool engine/tender pair.

[@Draftsman_MC1300]

Sorry if this is a weird place to ask this, but I’m trying to find if any company makes a 4-8-4 J-3 dixie, or specifically #576 that they’re restoring in Nashville.

[@c.haubenriser1]

Great video as always! Just out of curiosity, do you still happen to have your BSA 2010 ES44AC? A video of yours from 2011(i think) just popped up in my recommended and had 2010 as the thumbnail!

[@Ericstrains]

Yes I do

[@c.haubenriser1]

@@Ericstrains awesome! I earned my Eagle back in 2016 and have been on the hunt for that engine since with absolutely no luck😬 its a great looking engine and I'll hopefully find one for sale some day😂 keep it up with the great videos!

[@Eddie_Saint_Topez]

9:20 The water scoop steam effect is very nice but I think it has a little problem by where you put the oil for the smoke unit in the tender.

[@miguelangelgarrido7233]

Hola buenas tardes excelente video muy buen modelo abrazo grande!!!!!

[@thetrainboard2772]

Eric, as a train guy, I have 20 ish mth proto 1 engines with less than 3 hours run time each but have many bad smokers, bad fan motors, deterioarting speakers. Wish you would do a repair series...youtube is an ideal teaching tool...please help us, we are very willing to learn. Gary j

[@BXGUY73]

@Eric's Trains - too bad this does NOT have a "Drop Plate" between the Engine and the Tender

[@frankmoralesiii6908]

New to trains. Whoa, I can not believe how much this train is selling for.

[@Ericstrains]

Yeah it can be an expensive hobby at the top end

[@frankmoralesiii6908]

@@Ericstrains - I am new to trains. I wanna put a train shelf around livingroom and diningroom of my home, about 14"" from ceiling. But when I calculated the cost just for the track alone I had to stop and take a Nitroglycerin tablet. LOL

[@jamesdenny4734]

Real 😎

[@Guytrains]

beautiful train and love the video. how do you get the car sounds of the wheels rolling and screeching along the track? Is the passenger car equipped with sound?

[@stuartbaker3326]

That's too cool! I've never seen that feature before.

[@Leaden-plural0]

That's Lionel J3a Hudson is So Much Better Than the Lionel 700E Hudson Cause it's has the PT Tender

[@lynxplz3757]

@Eric’s Trains j might be fliming model trains soon how do you recommend me doing it

[@Leogar982]

I'd paid a fraction of this 2019 for a top of the line from 1990 J3 sent to clearance by mistake. Of course it doesn't have the new tooling but details and sound are exactly the same.

[@jamesf791]

I have this same engine...but use it on my 20th Century Limited. Mainly cause I don't have an Empire Builder passenger set...and I rather like 20th Century Limited and Empire Builder is not on my must have list of passenger cars just yet. But if anyone wants one I would try going to train show, cause you never know if someone is selling one. Whether it be York, The Great Midwest Train Show, or any of the other great ones out there... I hate recommending eBay cause there are so many people who over price items and puts a bad taste in my mouth when they do it.

[@xacto7]

Nice...is the water effect only on the one side? Thx!

[@Ericstrains]

It’s on both

[@1225polarexpress]

This is a question how do you get the locomotive to the upper level Do you lift them up or is there a separate track that leads up to the 2nd level

[@DavidSimpson1973]

The chuffs don’t seem to match the wheel revolutions, or am I missing something? I’m by no means a steam expert.

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

A steam engine should "chuff" when the lower piston rod is all the way in once, and once when the lower piston rod is all the way out. I have never seen a model that accurately reflected this. The onboard computer approximates the chuff rate based on speed of the loco. My guess is that you are an engineer...like I am. :-)

[@DavidSimpson1973]

@@ChrisHiblerPinball Not an engineer, but a locomotive electrician who collects model trains. All of my MTH locomotives have the “chuff” in time with the wheel revolutions. This one is off so I wondered if it’s something I’m missing of an oversight.

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

@@DavidSimpson1973 by engineer I meant electrical engineer or other. Your observation was in line with the eye of an engineer. We notice things like that. :-)

[@ChrisHiblerPinball]

@@DavidSimpson1973 and BTW, I meant that as a compliment.

[@DavidSimpson1973]

@@ChrisHiblerPinball haha, yea, it’s almost a curse.

[@frankmoralesiii6908]

That's a lotta money for a toy

[@davidkoehler136]

well that effect was deferent

[@danielharris8917]

Fairy Queen Please

[@evileyeball]

as cool as the J3a is I would much rather own an H1b hudson like my girl Empress is.

[@pjg1216]

Is that the one with the miss-matched wheels? If you like the NYC Hudson, check this one out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKPPYoueodVlsNE

[@furrythingowobored7677]

I got one of these for Christmas eve its #5414 from mrmuffinstrains

[@olderola5308]

First????

[@paulconteyoutubesucks2931]

Brother do you have the new york central double decker passenger cars???