"A Rumor Of War" (1980) - Philip Caputo, Vietnam War 'Feature Film' Version

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An excellent 1980 TV-Movie based on the 1977 autobiography by Philip Caputo about his service in the United States Marine Corps in the early years of American involvement in the Vietnam War. One of the earliest serious US works of television or film drama to be based on US combat experience in Southeast Asia. This version is the shorter "feature film" released in theaters in some countries outside of the U.S.
The story: Fresh out of Officer's Candidate school, Caputo is eager to experience combat action in Vietnam. When he and his platoon are assigned to the front line, they are decimated by enemy mines and sniper fire. Though he survives the battle, Caputo is determined to strike back. His eagerness costs the lives of two Vietnamese civilians, and he is charged with their murder.
Featuring Brad Davis, Keith Carradine, Brian Dennehy, Richard Bradford, Michael O'Keefe, Stacy Keach, Lane Smith and Christopher Mitchum.
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[@hatfieldmccoy0311]

Spent 12 years as a Marine Rifleman, 5 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, gave up a college scholarship for baseball to enlist. All the men in my family except for my dad, he was an actual miner, then went into firefighting. But I had to understand what the look in my papaws eyes, and my Uncles eyes. Why they would be around sometimes, then other times they would not be around, they would take off into the mountains for weeks at a time, or stay in the house hidden away from all of us. I knew my papaw had earned two bronze stars in WWII and a silver star in Korea, and had two Purple Hearts, knew my two Uncles had been into Vietnam 2 times, both had Purple Hearts, one had a silver star. One was with 3/3 the other was 2/5. I had to understand them. So I did and I learned what they knew. Was in the Invasion of Iraq, with 1/2 Charlie Co we lost 18, reenlisted went to 3/1 for the Second Battle of Fallujah. Lost 33 that deployment and I couldn't stop. I kept going and going until I had enough of the pointless deployments wirh no end in sight. I got out and I understood what made my papaws and uncles do the things they do. Earned plenty of medals to learn you cant feed your family them, they don't bring back your friends, don't stop the memories, and civilians dont understand what they mean. Seen good men charged with murder by people who were nowhere near to understand what happened. Seen my best friend die beside me, another buddy loose both his legs and arm after stepping on an IED beside me. War is not glorious, not romantic, it is hell, medals mean nothing, and sometimes this government will put undue blame on a person just to take the blame off them.

[@JonMidtan]

I smell a farmyard smell.

[@frankezane583]

@@JonMidtanagree the bovine effluent is strong with this one 😂

[@tewdogs4475]

thank you and your family for your service

[@djoswald9128]

@@JonMidtan”You think your funny.?.😂. Be careful of whom you insult. PTSD comes with get out of jail for free card.☠️. It won’t be me, it will be the instant your mouth 👄 overrides your intelligence, and Karma will react swiftly⏱️⚔️💀. Smells like a farm, because you are buried in it.😉. AHUM’M’@

[@Magaeatsboogers]

@@JonMidtan more like a broken down rest area, he cant afford a farm

[@mikebrase5161]

Saw this movie almost 40 years ago when TV actually did movies. Next day went to the Library and checked out the book read it in 3 days.

[@MrKedab]

The book has one of the most upsetting chapters I've read in any book.

[@smithwesson7765]

I was on the USS Mobile transport ship and we were conducting joint operations with the USMC at Pendleton. I had picked up a copy of the book before we shipped out from CFB Esquimalt. It was a strange feeling reading those pages below decks on a ship that had transported so many young men to Vietnam.

[@sirhoopalot1]

The book is way better than the movie

[@mikebrase5161]

@@sirhoopalot1 for sure, but that is almost always true.

[@lanagorgeous9485]

I was a young college ROTC cadet training to become an army officer when I read the book. I just couldn't put it down. There we so many great books that came out including Everything We Had: An Oral History of the Vietnam War, On Strategy by Harry Summers , Charlie Company: What Vietnam Did to Us, Platoon Leader: A Memoir of Command in Combat, many more, but Rumor of War was a very good book, absorbing, From a strategic perspective On Strategy, from heart Strings Charlie Company; but from the perspective of a young lieutenant in Combat it was Rumor of War and I still have that book, I was commissioned in the Regular Army in 1986, and yes I still have that book. The thing is, if you read the book first because of ones own vivid imagination, the movie will always let you down a bit. The movie was ok, the book freakin incredible!

[@Mosey410]

I recommend Battles in the Monsoon S.L.Marshall

[@jamesgunnyreed3792]

Add the Force Recon Diary series by Bruce Norton to your list Sir. Semper Fi

[@Ghostofachance-iw8pr]

For me the books Beouwoulf in Vietnam and A war With No Windows opened my heart and mind. I read portions of Beouwoulf in Vietnam to my friend (Army 69) about the steps from Gung-ho to complete disaluisament. He was quite then said that's exactly what happened.

[@wisccheese9257]

Have your read the short timera

[@DaveP326]

I spent 2 1/2 tours in Vietnam. 1965-mid 1967. Caputo's book is correct in every respect. Somewhere along the line the US military morphed from being the lean, green killing machine that won wars, to the corporate mentality of "US Military, Inc., that was scared to death of taking casualties, complete with charts, bar graphs, endless studies, beer choppers, pizza choppers, the fragging of officers, and the whole ball of corporate wax. We went from the Commander-In-Chief telling the Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon what the main strategy would be, then giving the Generals free rein to conduct the tactical operations as they saw fit, to achieve the strategy, to a Commander-In-Chief who spent his time in the Oval Office with a man who ran a car building corporation-a bean counter, looking at maps and telling the generals which buildings we could not bomb. That's what Hitler did, and how did that work out? We went from reporters reporting, to reporters commentating on military operations as if the had studied under Clauswitz, and were therefore more knowledgeable about military strategy and tactics than men who actually were trained from an early age, for military service. I am referring specifically to Walter Cronkite whose take on the 1968 Tet Offensive was 100% wrong and was a major reason public opinion turned against the war, and became the first time that the US cut and ran from an ally during a war-but embarrassingly, not the last time. Then, the brain trust in Washington decided to create an all-volunteer force, which looked great on paper. As usual, they powers-that-be screwed that up, too. When we became involved in Bosnia, then Iraq and Afghanistan, all of a sudden they realized that there weren't enough volunteers (surprise, surprise!), So how did we respond to that little problem? With countless deployments and re-deployments that achieved nothing other than to send home countless sons & daughters in bags, or missing body parts. For what end? There was no end in sight-just more re-deployments until a soldier was killed or maimed beyond recycling back into combat. I notice that this election cycle, there are a lot of combat veterans-some maimed-running for House and Senate seats. This is just my own opinion, but since we have acquired a reputation for getting involved where we shouldn't be, thatmore politicians should be combat veterans, because knowing what going to war actually means, maybe the US wouldn't be in such a hurry to send troops to come home dead and disfigured. Especially since these wars aren't being controlled by generals, but by untrained politicians.

[@CJH71587]

Classic from 1980! 🪖🎖️💚

[@cmccurley33]

My Uncle was killed in a firefight that Caputo discusses in the book. Always wanted to watch this.

[@timothylakin5035]

Wow god bless your uncle

[@pe7143]

RIP hero

[@8520204]

Two months after the Kennedy assassination, I was in the U.S. Navy Boot Camp at San Diego. By the end of the year, 1964, I was off the coast of Vietnam onboard the USS Valley Forge LPH-8.

[@WricNick]

Thank you for your service. Salute

[@VanceLeeMusic]

Navy ship off the coast. High speed, low drag sailor!

[@paullittle9187]

Man, they’ve got a lot of top notch actors in this.

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

I've always been a big reader, especially biographies by military veterans. This was my preparation before joining the army. The thing is, you can't understand what the military is really like from reading books. That's one reason vets don't bother talking about it - you have to experience it firsthand. Then you can go home and not talk about it to the next generation.

[@MaxwellsSilverHammer-]

Look how much the government loves you when you give everything..what a thorough fkn…

[@mr.willywinker4u849]

They always have and always will. The terroristic government don't give a dam about anyone. Well except themselves. Pure demonic evil. Facts

[@masudaharris6435]

This was one of the most captivating books I have ever read, regardless of genre. The mini-series was also reasonably well-realized.

[@IntheBlood67]

I Never forgot the"Lawrence of Viet Nam" Character! This is ringing my chimes! Great Memorial Day fare! THANKYOU!!

[@gregtaylor8310]

Thank you for posting. I'm happy to report that I just finished watching in glasses free 3D on my Leia Lume Pad 2,.awesome!

[@stevenkreiss2113]

Faintly remember this movie back in 80.

[@user-zh3mv7ln1i]

Don't know why I never saw this. I was in the Marines in 1980.

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

You didn't have time.

[@user-zh3mv7ln1i]

@@nomadmarauder-dw9re I think I read the book!

[@thrillbilly6147]

I remember watching this TV movie came when it first released. Thank you

[@RonFitCoaching]

I read the book 1/2 dozen times. Didn't even know that there was a movie.

[@reddiver7293]

Good read. Don't waste your time watching the movie.

[@tscully1504]

Read the book back then but missed the movie cause I was in basic. Was good for a TV film, and the ending excellent.

[@budsforyou5908]

Excellent 😊

[@MellowGhetto]

Do Siege Of Firebase Gloria next!!!

[@VerifiedVIPMember]

Thank you for posting. Though, the book is a classic and much better.

[@Nipit-po8fl]

Great actors great movie thank you for the Post

[@paulpisano8538]

THIS MOVIE NEVER GOT A DVD RELEASE. THE ONLY RELEASE WAS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITH SUBTITLES YOU CAN'T TURN OFF.

[@VanceLeeMusic]

Uhg almost as bad as capslock you can't turn off

[@sonnysantana5454]

funny it had a VCR tape version

[@tritom1955]

Very good movie.....thanks for the upload.

[@jonduggan7433]

Cleanest language Marines I've ever seen.

[@genewaggoner6449]

I read book in high school before I went in USMC. Book was a lot better than movie.

[@richardwarner3705]

Good movie

[@jonhenson5450]

1 st battalion 3 marine regiment. 1/3 of the 3rd Marine Division. Is correct.

[@michaelcaputo7811]

My father is Joe Caputo was in the 1/3 A company Vietnam 65/66

[@jonhenson5450]

@@michaelcaputo7811 related to Lt. Phil Caputo?

[@michaelcaputo7811]

@@jonhenson5450 No relation but I remember my father talking about a Caputo from Chicago that was in country with him. I have photos and news clippings. Wish I could contact some of Phillip Caputos family.

[@jonhenson5450]

@@michaelcaputo7811 I see. His enlistment papers will detail birthplace, next of kin ect. Possibly Google. After lying against his own troops (Crowe) he worked as a professional liar. "War corespondant- reporter" later in the war.

[@billmcclarnon1806]

Great book

[@martindavis9930]

I went to USMC OCS at Quantico, Virginia in July of 1980... does anybody know if the Marine Corps still uses Camp Upshur at Quantico for the first summer of Platoon Leaders Class ?

[@st3yo980]

I believe they still do sir…

[@MissedU60]

I was stationed at the Quantico MCB Naval Medical Clinic, I loved it and it was an excellent training environment. environment.

[@MissedU60]

Navy Corpsman 80-82 at Quantico MCB outstanding!

[@ericpanissidi6761]

Man I forgot how it was with the old man down on you. I joined the marines at 18

[@justinrogers1575]

I enjoyed this movie.

[@horacecrowe3520]

tough war who to say what's right or wrong its just a thang don't mean nothing

[@PhilipShawn]

CONTRIVED commitment that works for someone else.

[@muttley678]

@ hatfield mc coy! god bless u!!! im old army 80's from alaska to europe! all i can say to u is peace!!!

[@randylang9017]

The guys portrayed in this movie all have army haircuts.

[@Mastanigel]

Being in a situation within war where you know you will die prob feels like i feel knowing im going to die because of my health. Everyday is a battle but the end is the only thing you are sure of.

[@mathiesondl]

Is this the same Philip Caputo that wrote Delcorso's gallery?

[@Thomas-bv9mn]

Yes it is.

[@sonnysantana5454]

yes also made it as sec nav

[@reymonti5504]

Un gran actor, excelente película.

[@DEVILDOG1964]

SALUTING IN A COMBAT ZONE GET YOU KILLED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!! NAM VET 66-67

[@Lassisvulgaris]

This is a movie, not a documentary..... Thanks for your service, though.....

[@DEVILDOG1964]

@@Lassisvulgaris I HATE INACCURATE MOVIES SO DO MOST PEOPLE. THAT'S WHY THEY HIRE ADVISORS!! YOUR WELCOME!!

[@avvocato5543]

Always much too much saluting in the movies.

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Not only movies. When I served as a peace keeper in Lebanon in 1989, everybody saluted everybody, regardless of rank. Even if bearing arms....

[@DEVILDOG1964]

@@Lassisvulgaris IF YOU SALUTED A MARINE OFFICER IN A COMBAT ZONE YOU EITHER GOT PUNCHED OUT OR THE OFFICER SAID NEXT TIME YOU DO THAT I'LL KILL YOU!!! GET REAL DUDE!!

[@Ro6entX]

The book was pretty good.

[@castlerock58]

I remember that actor. He was in a bunch of movies around 1980 and then he vanished.

[@mattfulmer4243]

Brad Davis. Excellent actor. Midnight Express was a very harrowing movie. Died of AIDS at 41.

[@sonnysantana5454]

he died of AID's

[@jimryon1002]

Everyone carries rifles, even lts and sgts.

[@allandavis8201]

So it is the film that has got it wrong?, I thought it was a stupid move for an officer to only have a sidearm. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

[@ashpitcher3]

Yeah and the SGT walking around without his rifle too. Especially on patrol. ​@@allandavis8201

[@dukecraig2402]

Actually not only was portraying some of the Marine's as carrying shotguns correct they even managed to get the correct type that very unit had when they were sent to Vietnam, the Winchester Model 1897 pump with handguard and bayonet lug assembly, Winchester made 2 batches for the military one during WW1 and another batch during WW2. When the movie was made there were no M14's in Hollywood arms rooms to use in the movie so Hollywood armorer's took M1's and modified them to accept BAR magazines and made M14 look alike flash suppressors that screw on the muzzles in place of the gas cylinder locks, some people think they used Baretta BM-59's in the place of M14's but that's not true, years ago I had a magazine that had an article in it about how Hollywood armorer's modified M1's to look like M14's for this movie. One thing that is incorrect is Brad Davis' .45, at least in one scene, you can see where it has an external type extractor like the Ballister Ball Buster and several other M1911 based clones used by foreign military's do, quite often you'll see them as stand in's for M1911 .45's especially back in those days when the US military was still using the M1911 and foreign military clones like the Ballister were more common. I saw this movie on TV when it came out when I was in high school, several years later when I was in the Army I read the book.

[@chrisoulalakkas7935]

Your self-love must be stronger than your desire to be loved.

[@eastcoastnews9529]

🫡much respect to all servicemen 🫡

[@galesams4205]

A film for TV, Troops were useing the best battle rifle made M-14. I was issued thr Matel / TONKa m16 COLT with the 22cal 55gr. bullet. A very sorry round for combat. I soon went with the M-60 in 7.62 51. B co. 4th div ARMOR.

[@jeffharper9703]

Tzinn loy in Nam !☝

[@HerrKurt]

Please tv show blood feud... Jimmy Hoffa vs Bobby Kennedy

[@jeffharper9703]

Oh aye, Hoffa flavoured hotdogs daddy'o.

[@randallanthony1794]

Blood feud was best one regarding Kennedy and hoffa.forgernhis name but guy played Hoffa was best one that played that role.just remembered Robert Blake played him the best

[@olengagallardo8551]

This is not the full length version! thumbs down for that!

[@LionHeartFilmWorks]

Correct - read the description for information about that.

[@unclemoe6043]

Really, So we got rooked ??? I read the book. Volunteered 4 Nam 74-78. Uncle Sam cancelled party during Last part of AIT !!!

[@sonnysantana5454]

​@@unclemoe6043 uncle scammy started to pull out the troops in 72' by 73'nobody was to south east asia ( the nam to those that were their ) in 74' you might have gone to korea , the Philippines or even Japan or Thailand , but not south east asia

[@unclemoe6043]

@@sonnysantana5454 ur right, Korea was the place. More than half the platoon were Nam volunteers. We were half way or last week of AIT when we got the news. Nvr expected that. Did my 4 and ETS'ed

[@sillyone52062]

"The Corps.....the Corps" I have to admit to choking up when Gunny gets nailed at the end.

[@bradrook3919]

Enlisted on Jan 4th 1980. MCRD San Diego then off to Infantry Training School (ITS). 0311/Rifleman/Grunt, 3/7 India Co. 3rd Plt. Semper Fi Devil Dogs!

[@onetwo1163]

👍👍👍👍

[@PhilipShawn]

War is, in fact, cold. He'd HAVE to agree.

[@PhilipShawn]

So that LIVES can be saved and bad commanders weeded-out of the " action".

[@jeffreybutcher4451]

This is so cool

[@jeffharper9703]

Strollm for sure daddy'o !☝

[@billmarcontell930]

What a bunch of CRAP! What right does KZbin have to try and force me to watch the movie ONLY with ads, I use Ad blocker to get rid of the incessant ads that ruin a movie

[@randylang9017]

I have you tube premium no ads 12 dollars a month.

[@jonhenson5450]

Very, Very bad. They couldve hired a teenage Marine for a tech advisor, paid him in beer, and gotten a better production. This is insulting.

[@johnhanson5943]

Why? Why doesn’t mankind learn - in the main?

[@Kingmick58]

Tops fom the old Aussie.

[@ElkSlayer8172]

Such Bullshit how All you Boys get treated like shit waiting for you on the Home front God Bless to all of you men and women and thank you for all you have done 🤘🇺🇲🇺🇲🤘

[@PhilipShawn]

THAT'S how it works.

[@arielmags]

I have a book of this from my dad and i read a lot of it in the 80's. I am not so sure if i have seen the movie and i am surprised that there is a film adaptation .

[@allensacharov5424]

nepple shot at 46:45

[@cynthia7924]

Incognito.. also lived as a soldier too long.. eventually just an expendible asset for profiteering puppet masters. I miss the comraderie and excitement but wish I had known before that it was mostly a game for the top 1%. Many brave people wasted.

[@jeffharper9703]

FLY🪰....AWAY 👋🪰 !

[@reddiver7293]

Good book. Disappointing, grade B movie.

[@RobertSmith-lu2rm]

Talking kills…….no one in combat should ever talk…..

[@PhilipShawn]

And LOST his command.

[@stephenmcgraw8871]

Terrible....but I DID see a couple that went on to have roles in a real movie,"First Blood",a couple years later...........I hadn`t even heard about this one-I guess there`s a reason for that.............

[@jonhenson5450]

Caputo lied. Pappy Crowe took the hit. Straight Up, tight, lcpl Crowe.

[@tritonjackmam5.681]

and they wonder why they never win a war 😂😂 americans if this movie portrays anything is 🤷‍♂️ they had no idea what they got it to, and a stupid go no where movie

[@RobertSmith-lu2rm]

The soldiers in this movie were ill prepared for combat…..they were walking dead……no training …..

[@noodles7274]

Spectacles? Really? Load of rubbish film

[@lukehorning3404]

I have never seen this movie and I’m sure it was meant to be a great movie but I don’t think they made what they were trying to tell and I have seen better movies from the 40s and this is garbage

[@baxtermason6909]

...from a Vietnam Vet...dumb movie...not worth the time...

[@fish9905]

Why?

[@davidbaker5802]

Phu Bai , Fifth ANGLICO 71-72 , Lam Son 719- Easter Offensive , Semper Fi , SSgt David Baker.

[@richardkunkle9924]

Semper Fi, Staff. 69-73 Sgt.

[@sonnysantana5454]

bubba no one out here knows what an ANGLICO is you're wasting words , semper fi bro

[@allandavis8201]

As this is based on his autobiography I don’t mind saying that when he first got to Vietnam he was greener than green and didn’t really understand what his Sgt (Brian Dennehy) was trying to convey and to TEACH him, I bet that would have changed rather quickly. I can’t believe that @ 33:43 Lt Caputo was only carrying a sidearm, I don’t honestly know if that was the reality of the early days in Vietnam but if it was SOP and I was there as an officer I would have found some way of getting an M-14, Shotgun or Carbine, how a sidearm would be any use when landing in a hot LZ and coming under effective enemy fire is beyond my comprehension, if the Marines were having to think about protecting their Lt they would have been as much use as a chocolate 🍫 teapot 🫖, I hope somebody can tell me what the real SOP was at the time, but if it was just a sidearm I would have to say that was shortsighted or just plain stupid. Personally I think 💭 that during Officer Training they should have it drummed into their heads that the “old sweat 😰” Senior and Junior noncommissioned officers are there because they know what they are doing, and as a Lt JG they only know what the training manual says, maybe some experienced instructors can pass on knowledge but in combat they need to listen to their NCOs until they get their feet under the desk and learn how it is really done, not what a manual written decades before tells you to do. The constant saluting of officers and them returning it is a very silly mistake to make in this film, all it achieved was making the officer a target for a sniper or a larger force, they learned that from many previous wars and yet filmmakers still insist on having it included, saluting in rear areas and places like HQ buildings would have been ok to depict but out on the ground it was, and still is, a mistake, it didn’t happen. This is a very powerful movie, from the over exuberant Lt JG to the hate filled Lt who is determined to make a mark in the war for vengeance against the people who killed his friends, an emotional rollercoaster from the moment he stepped on Vietnamese soil. Thanks for sharing this story, as bad as the military deportment and props were used the acting was excellent and made the other mistakes pail into obscurity, thanks again, excellent film.

[@OscarLimaMike]

I wanna know who made these pretend M14's without looking at what the real ones looked like. Looks like they got a bunch of M1 Garandes and put flash eliminators and mags on them. 😂 I was ready to dump this but there is actually some reality portrayed in it... Any LT worth anything follows their Sgt's at least until they are acclimatized.

[@davidkuniyoshi4908]

Bm 59’s