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[@Norm-R]

We wouldn't be calling for MCDC's head in Detroit. We already accepted his style last year in San Francisco. You can't call him a hero when he does risky stuff and wins if you're gonna call him a villain when he does risky stuff and loses. Trust the team. Trust the culture. Dan Campbell has changed things here in Detroit.

[@arbiter1]

This movie quote sums it up. Lt. Comd. Dodge: All right, ladies and gentlemen. We have fulfilled every requirement of this mission except one: Norfolk. Presently, there are several ships positioned outside the harbor to intercept us. To get in, we're gonna have to use a tactic that is somewhat bizarre, and extremely risky. If any of you feel it's not worth it, please let me know now. Seaman Stanley 'Spots' Sylvesterson: Uh, actually, sir, I think we prefer to go with the bizarre and risky. It's worked for us so far.

[@AustinHebrew]

I call b.s. yall would have been crying

[@haveagreatday6952]

@@AustinHebrew you don’t get it man.

[@MegaBahamamamma]

@@AustinHebrewcampbell is 31-9 over his last 40 games with the lions. I would certainly not call for his head if we lose on that last 4th down run. We were 3/4 at that point.

[@baker4000]

@@AustinHebrewonly bandwagons would be crying. Any fans who have been here since 0-16 and even before that would accept that loss if it happened.

[@DWargs]

Saban nailed it. It's about the mentality. You don't play to not lose. You don't play to go to overtime. You play to win. This isn't the first time Campbell's gone for it on 4th down against Green Bay in a tight game, and it won't be the last.

[@eddielopez6731]

Yeah if you can’t get a few inches you don’t deserve to win

[@flacko_jody2130]

I hope yall dont switch up when it doesn't work and they end there season because of it like the chargers coach used to do lol.

[@HlGHENERGY]

@@flacko_jody2130 Exactly. Just know, if you hear anyone saying MCDC lost us the NFC championship last year, they're a fake ass fan.

[@APCHome]

@flacko_jody2130 I agree I like the Dan taking risks and as far as NFC championship last year goes we lost because Ben Johnson stopped running the ball 2nd half.

[@fcilpino]

they play to play. winning is just a byproduct

[@timesfly1081]

it took me wayyy to long to figure out MCDC meant "Motor City Dan Campbell" 😆

[@bigfoe-je5cs]

I'm sitting here like who the hell is MCDC. 😂😂

[@gunguru7020]

I was digging for it myself. Thx

[@KoolAidForYou]

I thought it it was "Massive Cojones " xD

[@JoeMcCormick-px6zl]

Lol

[@dennis_burgess]

I’m pretty sure Pat started that nickname. Or at the very least he made it a thing.

[@BamaScorpio69]

Nick gets it. He understood why DET went for it on their last 4th down play.

[@Gary_Pinise]

@@BamaScorpio69 how tf did you know that? Edit: English is not my first language

[@Dogsoverppl]

He told the team during Hardknocks - one ass cheek and 3 toes, I’ll still kick your ass. Another moment the team mentality was sealed.

[@terencethomas6695]

Deep and very true wow

[@NiijiBigT]

It's really funny cause he serious 🤣

[@dannymurray1854]

Wear a diaper

[@oldstone1035]

If it failed......we would still love em!

[@hhaste]

I know that's a lie, there would be people all over reddit calling for him to be fired.. then again, it is reddit, afterall

[@fortyoneshades]

That's because Lions fans don't know what it's like to be champions. They are happy just winning some games. So hilarious😂😂

[@googleoperationmockingbird2556]

Brandon Staley would like to differ. The media loved his ass at first. As soon as those aggressive play calls went sideways, the media was calling for the guillotine

[@BuuhBlocks]

@@hhaste we literally saw it not work in trhe NFC championship and we still love him lmao. Live by the sword die by the sword

[@Jeremy-iv9bc]

Yeah right. We’ll see what happens if it causes them to lose the Super Bowl.

[@robl39]

Detroit thanks Saban for prepping these players so well!

[@saschjordan2596]

Roll Pride, baby! 😆

[@connermekis7780]

Last fourth down call was sick and absolutely the right call. Much better probability you convert a fourth and 1 then your defense making the stop. I’m a charger fan but I’ll say this GO LIONS!

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

Even if it failed, there’s a good chance it goes to OT. GB would still have to get in FG range in less than 40 seconds with no timeouts.

[@JK8]

@@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson you just argued why they should have kicked it

[@riichcoby7433]

@@JK8would have been deeper in their territory than a kickoff would result in

[@jereksteinhausen8312]

Herbert is a studd. I've said it from day one, love from a lions fan.

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

@@JK8 how so? Even if it failed, the game is still tied. So why kick? A made kick gives GB the ball at the 30 with a chance to win. A missed kick gives GB the ball at the spot of the kick, about the 21. A failed 4th down gives GB the ball at their 14.

[@joshualloyd4275]

Underrated on this final play was Monty taking the handoff without so much as a studder with Goff falling down

[@DirtyMikeMichigan]

The refs/league have been shitting on the Lions for 60yrs, so I refuse to feel sorry for the Packers not getting the calls. Good win by Detroit!

[@GuyHarris-tr6rt]

❤❤❤😂😂😂 Ain't No fun when the Lions got the gun 🔫🔫😂😂😂😂😂🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 Detroit play there opponents and the refs for years so stop it😂😂😂😂😂

[@bohowlerson4959]

Gotta win regardless. Packers had chances to win and didn’t. Don’t let a missed call change the outcome of the game by playing better. As a packers fan and a coach myself, I agree. Packers shouldn’t feel sorry for themselves, play better instead of expecting the refs to do a hard job perfectly

[@millieparker772]

AGREE ❤

[@OwdeeTeeTee]

Agreed, I've been watching the lions since roughly 2005 and things like "process of the catch" with them. Its about time we are getting good breaks. I think the refs want the Lions to win it all too lol because they've been awesome for us this year.

[@Fastie37]

So true!!!

[@jgk381]

Finally someone in the media who gets it. Pat knows ball. Campbell played to his strength (offense) instead of weakness (injured defense) which is great coaching. Like you said, Packers would've likely gotten the FG to tie, and then what if they win the coin toss and the game comes down to Lions injured defense having to stop an elite offense from scoring a TD with 10 min on the clock? Why even risk putting themselves in that position if they could avoid it by just getting 1 yd on offense with the best OL and run game in the league? It's really an easy call when you think about it.

[@DetroitCoalition]

Dan won the clock and the points. MCDC showed all the other teams that if you expect us to take the points, kick you the ball, and let your QB have time to tie or win, "No, you don't".

[@kingkong6666]

😂😂 " no you don't " I see what you did there (Caleb Williams faking out of bounds callback)

[@leoobermyer3769]

Skip puking typified the back-up guys playing their guts out! Back-ups beating everyone!

[@bcagz9835]

Never liked Coach Saban since I am a Michigan man born and raised, but have no choice but to respect and appreciate the guy.

[@eliminshrintar]

I'm an Aggie. The man has been terrorizing the SEC for a generation. We all hated him. But damn me if we all didn't respect the hell out of him, even when he left our carcasses out to rot on the field game after game after game.

[@jcelldogs]

​@eliminshrintar why would you respect a coach who cheated? You would have to be blind to not realize sabans success 100% is due to him paying the top recruits under the table. Dude was trash in the nfl where rosters are pretty much equal and where coaching matters. He fell way short. Pun intended. Notice how fast he bailed when other teams could buy players legally he knew his gig was up. He didn't like them being able to transfer and immediately be able to play. He would overrecruit and make all these top stars sit on the bench and couldn't transfer out. Now they can be paid and play anywhere.

[@Harpazoed]

Being 64 and watching my Lions for all of these years I can honestly say we are so blessed to have everything we have going on now. Why would anyone question Dan Campbell with what he’s done in Detroit Rock City Lions. 313 Baby. 💥💙

[@Harpazoed]

I think it’s something like 13 starter’s out and a total of 18 with special teams and backups are all injured. I pray 🙏 we get some players back for the Bills game.

[@Max_fb8]

Unironically Jared Goff might be the best ball hand-offer of all time

[@stevefrick2194]

I’m a lions fan but bro from Wisconsin, you guys brought it. You will be fine, you just never know what happens when the playoffs start! I hope we don’t have to face you guys again

[@rezzbuilds8343]

If the lions lost this game I would not upset whatsoever, they’re so banged up and still finds ways to win through grit, as cliche as it sounds

[@Shad_216]

Dan Campbell is the only HC in the NFL that gets the “boneheaded” title whenever a 4th down isn’t converted while still being one of the most efficient HCs to convert 3rd and 4th downs. He’s a player’s coach and he knows exactly how the players want to play and people can’t even deny that it’s working for the Lions.

[@ZWilson2000]

I 100 percent never doubt Dan. He knows what he's doing, and he owns those choices. As a cowboys fan, I would trade our 1st through 3rd round picks for the next 30 years to have him coach for us. He's the man. He's the man. Love Dan the Man. Love him. He's gonna fight for everything.

[@be4styp4cm4n9]

Pat you should know you’re 100% right also MCDC works out with the players, he’s in there sweating with them in drills, conditioning, he’a putting everything into my lions, I personally love the man, and have never had a feeling like this before

[@D3troit00]

lol I'm sorry Packers crying because they lost to our practice squad defense is embarrassing. hahahhaha cry babies

[@tylerdavis9605]

The packers lost to the offense, neither defense played well.

[@softjones3128]

@@tylerdavis9605 that's not a point Tyler. LIons have a 3rd string defensive line lolllllllllllllll

[@YooperHatesOhioState]

I’m tbf, lions lost to the packers practice squad last year so it evens out now but lions offense is too lethal for everyone to handle

[@BRBmusicbest]

@@tylerdavis9605the lions defense played waaaaay better than the Packers. Half of the Packers TD drives started 10 yards outside of the red zone. Their other TDs were aided by a 60 yard bomb and several 3rd down flags that extended the drive. They were valid, but still they were not the types of drives the Lions had. Not even close brotha

[@kelseywhitlatch173]

Packers leading pass catcher and by far best defensive player was out and you still needed the refs help to barely win. Congratulations on winning the closest thing to a Super Bowl you’ll ever get…. Beating Green Bay twice in one year

[@tpd1399]

I would do anything for Dan Campbell to be my Officer in Charge. His leadership and speeches are incredible

[@Billabongbabalog]

9:11 That is my philosophy. It's simple. Defense is harder than offense. The rules are made for the offense. Use your offense. Great defenses secure victory, i.e. don't give up points in clutch time. Not many great defenses right now, if any.

[@kanagawakenji7]

Ironically, when healthy, the Lion's defense is pretty solid.

[@Billabongbabalog]

@kanagawakenji7 # I never said their defense wasn't good.

[@kanagawakenji7]

@@Billabongbabalog Sorry, I wasn't critiquing what you said, chief. Just pointing out the irony of the situation.

[@Billabongbabalog]

@@kanagawakenji7 All good. I just don't want any angry mfers from off 8mile to crash out.

[@MrRiceGuy]

MCDC would rather the team fail because of his decision making than due to a poor performance from a key player. Keeps any negative attention on him rather than his players. Gives them the recognition during their successes and shields them from blame in defeat.

[@feralape5022]

The lions defense needs to be called “The Legion of Whom”

[@casematecardinal]

Thats pretty clever. And they looked hungry too. They may be struggling but I think they bought in and it can only get better

[@darinmurph3483]

i really hope that title sticks! Love it

[@alexsmith3598]

Goff tried gnawing David's kneecaps off and forgot they were on the same team.

[@joshfahm]

I'm sorry Pat 11-2 no one is calling for anyone's head 😂😂😂

[@GurtiusMaximus]

Packers have no reason to be upset. They have the youngest team in the league and just lost by 3 to arguably the best team in the league

[@softjones3128]

lol. the lions were the youngest team in the league a minute ago. Packers are trash for years to come.

[@YooperHatesOhioState]

Yea we do. We haven’t beaten anyone good outside of Houston. Can’t beat the big dogs of the nfc

[@Sugar_beans]

Lions front 7 are practically all 3rd-stringers due to injury

[@JustinK1613]

​@@softjones3128people talk like the lions didn't draft most of their starters over the last few years...

[@Massc._]

@@Sugar_beanstrue but ag is a dog

[@philipcaseyacalloway204]

Coach dropping that nugget about having no starting corners against Warren Moon😭 that must’ve been a terrifying feeling.

[@ryandemboski6313]

Im so tired of hearing people discredit the lions. I'm done listening to this stuff and I'm done listening to Packers and Vikings players, coaches, and fans cry literally every week

[@MAYCO0516]

As a long time Lions fan, I can't tell you how many times that play would have been a fumble return for a td in the past. I think we hold the record for the most games lost by a fg

[@tylerogle7123]

This is excellent analysis by Saban here. Loved his thoughts!

[@AnthonyVGibby]

Damn! Nick Saban dropped some knowledge gems during this segment. I'm definitely making some mental and written notes about that. GO LIONS!!!

[@kingkong6666]

I literally got my pen out - as a music teacher!

[@robbob96]

@@kingkong6666right!!!

[@robbob96]

Truth!!!! That message hit

[@gruntman8998]

Lets go Lions!!!!!!!

[@KyleLeHeup]

Detroit practice team > Green Bay

[@softjones3128]

"I don't know if they can win all the games like they have been" 12-1?

[@UnreliableStudios]

I think they were saying if they play like they did against GB. Wasn’t a great game overall for them. But they pulled it out

[@muxpux]

Winning because everything happens to go your way implies that there may be a game where the ball bounces a different way. And in the playoffs, that will send you home. As a Seahawks fan, we had a season like this. Everything just went right. Even in the playoffs. Minnesotas missed kick, the comeback against Green Bay… you need a little luck, but luck can go both ways.

[@austinclubb2093]

Last year his coaching screwed their chances. That is what he is talking about, playoffs are diffefent.

[@ImperiousRexRacing]

"Nobody does that to the league 12 times in a row!!"

[@baker4000]

@@muxpuxalready happened and that was the Tampa Bay game

[@EvoDave42]

Crazy how comfortable coach has become with Pat. First game or two he seemed shocked by him. Now? Great duo.

[@daveconleyportfolio5192]

Most shows operate like a broadcast studio, while McAfee's operates like a locker room. Once they catch on to that, any coach or player probably gets pretty comfortable in a hurry.

[@zachdamenti4387]

Dan Campbell’s chances of winning head coach of the year have increased! He’s in the race along with other coaches like Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott!

[@aaronwilliams9211]

As a packer fun, I was gutted but still pretty encouraged as a road game against the best team in the nfl this year was close all game. I know a lot of lions defenders were out by so were packers defenders. Hopefully both teams can get fully healthy for playoff time cuz it would be an absolute banger of a game

[@traejones8456]

I can almost guarantee about 90% of us lions fans wanted him to go for it before he even went for it🤣🤣 we've been accepted Dans play style and we trust and believe in him 100%💪🏿💪🏿

[@TheDriftingStig]

I think the other part that made it work is that the Packers' defense might have been a little relaxed thinking that they might just try to draw an offsides penalty. Everyone was thinking "there's no way they're actually going for it", so I think that Dan knew that he could catch some of the defense by surprise by going for it.

[@SayBroTogether]

Bro, I love the energy! Dan Campbell’s mentality is exactly what this team needs. You can’t criticize him for being bold when it works and then flip the script when it doesn’t.

[@trevorprice3718]

The lions had an interception in the end zone but got called for a weak DPI. Lead to GB touchdown. It went both ways.

[@brandonbaty2291]

And multiple ABSURD “holding” calls that went GBs way.

[@Calibrownsfan]

refs missed goff's knee touching the ground before he got rid of the ball on that final 4th down play.

[@BenRichards87]

​@Calibrownsfan it's been 36 hours since the game has ended. You've had more than enough time to learn NFL rules and why he wasn't ruled down.

[@agvga5510]

@@Calibrownsfansmh. Not college bro

[@trevorprice3718]

@@Calibrownsfan I highly recommend removing this comment by all respect. You clearly have no idea what the rules of football are.

[@chrissimpson453]

If it failed and they lost no real detroit fan would be calling for his head only people who dont matter i guarrante you lions fans love this style of play way more then the normal style that hasnt ever gotten them anywhere💯💯

[@ImGettinWeird]

Im a metro detroiter, played hockey my whole life so I've been a huge wings fan and never really cared at all for football and new the lions were a joke. I never even bothered to watch a game until last year and more so this year. The lions and football in general gained a new fan. No matter the sport , it's always good for the sport when losing markets start having winning seasons. I was considering picking up a Gibbs jersey but after that Texans came and hearing his backstory , Bates is my favorite player

[@swingamiss729]

The amount of packer fans that believe Goff was down because he fell is mind boggling to me! How can so many people not understand a real simple rule?

[@2GuysandaPodcast]

Pat, Jared ran over to throw during the time out because he hit his thumb on a helmet the previous play - he was also rubbing it after the game walking aroud on the field.

[@Seb318]

How about BBB BIG BALL BATES, Clutched out

[@kingkong6666]

Haha love that nickname. Legatron still my fav, hope that catches on

[@madmcmilly670]

43 yrs of being a lions fan and so grateful I got to see this in my lifetime, always the joke team always the easy win, not anymore, you wanna beat us? Then you gonna have to work for it.

[@iwantmoney1239]

I love how Coach Saban’s presence makes Pat turn so red🤣 thats respect

[@cynthiasmith4130]

Detroit Pride!!! True Gritt!!! Dan Campbell is a great passionate coach he believes!!!! They listen and perform!!! From The Motor City!!!! Lets Go Lions!!! 💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥....

[@robbob96]

Wow, the life lessons from Saban and tying it in with MCDC. Greatness

[@stanleyhasting6047]

Pretty much came down to who had the ball as the clock was running out . They both were scoring on each other.

[@Fab5BadBoyz]

That’s why DC went for it on 4th at the end of the game

[@stanleyhasting6047]

@Treemendous_1 for sure

[@EricLin-o3v]

The real Detroit fans have accepted Dan's method. He is who he is and I'm okay with it. Win, lose, tie I'm riding with Dan. Because despite whether it works or not, I love everything else. He is all in on his players and this team. He gives everything he has. He feels the game and not thinks with his head which can be an issue if you think too much. I'd much rather trust a guy with his gut instinct than one who overthinks a strategy. If it doesn't work, thats okay. Also, the defense will be healthier by the playoffs especially if we get a week bye with the first seed. I expect Iffy, Cominsky, Reader, Paschal, Owunzurike, barnes, and anzalone all back by the NFC championship game. If not all, most of them. That's a perfect time to be healthy on defense.

[@duanecastle8041]

I love the 4th down efficiency going for it, people want to knock the lions going for it all the time, well last I checked all of the good winning Superbowl teams patriots, saints,chiefs all have been aggressive with playing winning football but now haters are not believing what they are seeing and oh lions should have done the opposite yeah play to lose, love the playcalling lions can keep proving everybody wrong and keep playing to win! GO Lions

[@anthonynoneyabusiness420]

As a packer fan can’t always be on top 💛💚was a great game I hope we can have a rematch in the playoffs

[@mufflerdad5048]

Me too, would be an easy win for the lions

[@Billabongbabalog]

​@mufflerdad5048 😂😂😂

[@rzrramon8310]

I thought to myself right after the game they will play a 3rd time this year.

[@anthonynoneyabusiness420]

@@mufflerdad5048 stay humble . It would probably be a shootout again

[@buns7136]

​@@rzrramon8310 We actually played each other 3 times in 2023.

[@korodski]

We believe in MCDC. PERIOD.

[@BossPookie]

Skip upping rainbows due to excessive happiness! He isn't alone! 🎉😅

[@matulonisw]

I personally benefited from Campbells risk play that resulted in a 17 yard pass to Amon-Ra. I needed 14 more yards rec for St.Brown and a Lions win. So thankful for that. It was like that outcome was so far giving the situation but Dans call gave that 100x payout to my bet. Thanks Lions and being a Michigan/Metro Detroit native my whole life this is the most amazing time for me and the whole fanbase. The culture is without a doubt the most intriguing and entertaining and you always know that miracles may happen in any game.

[@jamespicardat9957]

People fail to realize how EASY it is to go 40 yards needed to get the game tying FG if the Lions kick the FG there. Time was more of the enemy than the scoreboard. Not to mention you give control to GB, and the get the help of the Zebras as well. It's a different game than even when Pat McAfee played.

[@tabethagable4915]

MCDC COACH OF THE YEAR 💙🦁🏈🏆🦁👑🧹

[@ShooterMcNut]

Kicker bro is hungover

[@jakeg7472]

Defender literally ran into Watson… shouldn’t have been a pick

[@ken2win671]

If “IF” was A 5th we all will be drunk 😅

[@alexmathews9901]

We need MCDC on college Gameday!! Or to join the show with Saban on a day it would be great!!

[@easyox77]

Goff wanted to go for it, Dan was thinking kick

[@SpenmoChins3]

Go Lions! 🙏🏽😭💙🩶🦁

[@CaptainMark501]

Go Lions!!!

[@NibelVirchREADY]

DC does the 4th down thing all the time. Did it last year in the playoffs against the cowboys.

[@jonaswaltman7359]

Saban, saying if you believe in your players to get a yard. Then get it done. So you can run the clock down and then knee it and kick the game winning kick. That's how people have been doing for years since the 80s. If you give a team a 1 minute. They can quickly lead their team down the field and tie the game. Even worst hit wide open wideout that speeds for a Touchdown. So running the clock is what you have to get it done. They kick the ball 34 second. That's 32 second for the opponent to push down the field. An kick a fieldgoal

[@TeamTimeRiders]

This lions team is different than any other team I’ve seen. They’ve built a culture from the ground up. It’s a place people wanna go to and one they don’t wanna leave.

[@adolphdooley3632]

That is how you establish being a champion! Not being afraid to risk it all. Champions shed blood! Champions are tried in fire, and made through hard knocks. GO LIONS!

[@markstearns8029]

Great points for sure. All things considered don’t forget, with all the injuries Dan wants this team to believe they can still win. I think that is one reason he went for it. He has shown in the past how these plays get the team to buy in to believe they can win not matter what. Motivation baby motivation.

[@pattygrimes9188]

Lions getting some of Ir players back for playoffs

[@miketyson1717]

Ever think that it's the way the lions play dirty that causes their players to be injured so much more often? U try to hurt people and bite their kneecaps, ur kneecaps better be solid steel

[@camerongeiger4051]

@@miketyson1717I guess high intensity=dirty nowadays, who knew

[@freedomthefreeman487]

@@camerongeiger4051people can never accept change and it’s human nature to make excuses for why said change occurred instead of observing what actually happened. The Lions have slowly and successfully built an amazing culture through great staff building and looking for the right type of mentality in their players. Just like Ohio fans are salty with UofM’s recent domination of them and amazing recruiting so are fans of other NFL teams when it comes to the Lions. The Lions must be “dirty”. 🤪 Oh well, we don’t care and will continue to play great football.

[@fredricclack7137]

DyNasty Bginz 🦁⚒️💙

[@zachscheer3463]

HIT ON 14's

[@tonyharris4389]

In MCDC we trust

[@brianbrown600]

Dale Earnhardt was a champion because he danced with death and didn't blink. Dan Campbell wins because of the same traits. If your team is used to going for it on 4th down in important situations, they don't pucker when you have to in really important ones. The more they did it to the Packers, the more air it took from their lungs and on that last one, GB looked resigned to the loss as Montgomery squeezed through a pile of blockers for the 7 yard gain.

[@benmecha01]

USE JAYDEN REED WTF

[@arbiter1]

between gibbs and mont, they ran ball 29 times between the 2 (15/14 respecfully). On pass side, 6 yes SIX players had least 5 receptions' and yes gibbs and monty both were in that group for catchs. Lions spread work all over.

[@the40belowscalecorresponde18]

Best defense is an elite offense

[@Physics072]

Long time Lions fan here (saw Barry S. Play in the dome many times) I'll take the win but..... 1. Going for it on own 30 vs punting was stupid and gave GB a free TD 2. We got a bad spot at end of game (We had first down) the coach failed to toss the challenge flag he would have won it and ended the game early. Those were coaching errors that wont fly in the playoffs.

[@brianjarsma8069]

Inside 2 minutes. Couldn't challenge spot.

[@Physics072]

@@brianjarsma8069 Good call thanks!! Have to re-watch that play I thought he got it. I prefer the flag so they can spend some TV time on that particular play. Don't remember them spending much time on it with because it was so fast. Feel robbed of controversy. I say we make a new flag so we can challenge the auto challenge :)

[@Physics072]

@@brianjarsma8069 I just re-watched the first down they took away from the lions. No way did the booth have a view better than the call on the field. I froze the frame and zoomed on the computer. They put the ball 2 feet shy of where it actually was when he was down. But they are told the Booth is 100 percent right so not even the TV announcers argued it much. He couldn’t toss the challenge flag because a booth review already determined that it wasn’t a first down. Looked very very fishy to me. Go ahead I challenge others to rematch the play (amazon saves the game) and see the spot vs when he was down. Anyway the Lions deserved that win 2x with Gibbs giving GB a free time out at the end by running out of bounds + the questionable booth Re-Spot. Lions did everything they could to give GB another chance and GB blew it. So crying Packers fans can stuff it. :)

[@timothyshort5933]

Reckless resilience!

[@GlennJackson-d8e]

I hated Saban's team (being a Gator fan), but he is a high quality coach. I just wish we had better teams after he got going.

[@adamioppolo1884]

Lions are on a 34-9 tear since the second part of 3 seasons ago including playoffs last year.

[@thewizardofoz511]

Packers fans don't like you for this 😅.. hell.. none of the haters do

[@brandonbaty2291]

His biggest mistake in the NFC Championship game last year was NOT going for it and kicking the FG instead when we were in the red zone at the half. Everyone thinks its the other way around. No. THATS the one that haunts him. We convert that TD, we win that game. Any 1 of those terrible drops by WRs and we win. That crazy bounce doesnt happen and pop miraculously into the opps hands, we win. Them going for it and not kicking a FG was never the issue.

[@LionsOnTheHunt313]

LionZ.... Thanos SNAP

[@mikebrothers7038]

68% on 4th downs, 96% to make the FG. That's a 65% chance to win right now by going for it. That, versus at best a 50/50 coin flip cause that defense wasn't getting a stop. The other 4th down call at their own 30 was much more questionable.

[@TheBlueTurfdotcom]

Last night's ACC championship game showed what a team can do with 9 seconds left

[@markpage9886]

To beat the Lions, you also got to beat Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's philosophy is a punch in the mouth. Fake punts, going for it on fourth down, run plays up the gut, rotating rbs...playing the Lions is a marathon.

[@DallasMaze-j7x]

well the UNC QB next year is currently in the 4th round of State Championship football tonight in 20 degree weather here in NC, he's ranked top 10 QB in nation. He has a couple of team mates coming with him next year....I know them.....bit of a diva..but still in HS. This young man breathes, eats and sleeps Football. Go do it Bill...NC has so many players in the NFL...this place is jumping with talent

[@midstatesindustrialgroupin6694]

Gibbs fumble against the Bears. Goffs INT in the 3rd against the Pack. Arnold's continual PI's in the End Zone. These are not injuries that keep allowing the opposition to be close, it's player mistakes, and those players keep finding a way to win.

[@Jorejaha-c7h]

Seahawks took some 4th down risks to get that win last week too.

[@bammbamm1226]

I don’t agree with ppl wanting mcdc’s head if that last 4th down failed. As a life long lions fan he has earned our respect and trust. Yes will some of those come back to bite us in the future but that happens. I’m happy he has so much faith in his team to get it done in clutch moments

[@canijustplease]

I just worry that the lions will run out of steam at the business end of the season

[@danespencer1643]

I am a lions fan , soon I know I am bias, but that is the most insightful analysis I have heard on why mcdc went for it. I don't believe it is wreckless or bone headed. I do believe he is more calculated now. I love the comment "he assesses the moment, gut feel". Dan said he didn't want to give the ball back to packers, he wanted to finish it. They practice those situations. Good analysis 👍

[@T1cksandLeeches]

I'm 100% sure that they go for it on that 4th down, even if the defense was guaranteed to stop Jordan Love. It was a mindset, and a message to the league. It also shows they're not bluffing at all when they want to do some trickery and manipulate the game clock at the end of a future game. Next time they show their offense at the end of a game, the opponent isn't thinking "they're just trying to make us jump. Just line up, but don't move".

[@Calibrownsfan]

this won't work in the postseason. last year they lost to sf because twice they went for it instead of kicking fgs.

[@picklenick9474]

The only 4th down call I didn't like was the end of the 3rd on our own 30

[@luisofthelion]

Goff got stepped on, that’s why he stumbled…

[@SteeveyKneevey]

The lions are here

[@robertweed6921]

The reason he went for it at the end of the game is because he did not want to risk another phantom PI call by the refs that happened the week before against the bears. They do lead the league in PI calls.