Lippert Screen Shot RV Screen Door Closer Installation - Challenger Door Modification

In this video, I install an auto RV screen door closing device called the Screen Shot. The Screen Shoot is designed to fit right-hand hinged Lippert screen doors. It consists of a spring and a cloth strap inside a plastic tube. At each end of the tube are plastic mounts that fit into the door frame channels.
Unfortunately for me, our 2011 Couger trailer has a Challenger brand door not compatible with the Screen Shot. So I ended up doing a modification to the Screen Shot plastic end pieces and drilled a couple holes in the door frame to make it work.
Warning! My modification will likely void the warranty.
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[@RVAshsinApril]

Good job on figuring out how to modify it.

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks 👍

[@trudyhopkins4049]

Thanks so much, Ray! I purchased the Screen Shot a couple months ago for hubby to install on our Cougar 5th Wheel and failed to notice it was specific for Lippert doors. Looking at It today I thought, why can't we modify it? - and sure enough, you showed the way. So grateful for sharing your innovative modification. He's already done the friction hinges and they work great.

[@LoveYourRV]

Nice to hear. Cheers! Ray

[@fordfan3179]

I just installed that on my screen door along with the Screen Defender. I have two new dogs traveling with us for the first time. Happy to say both accessories worked out great.

[@LoveYourRV]

Good to hear, wish I had it back when we had the beagles. They were escape artists always ready to bolt to look for food. :)

[@fordfan3179]

@@LoveYourRV we've been raising Boston/Cavalier pups over the winter. Brothers, about 25 lbs at 10 months. One black and white, the other Brindle. They're strong, fast and adventurous. The door closure got em once, lol. No damage, just startled.

[@snookrookie]

Hello. My new camper came with it already and friction hinge. They work really well. Travel safe. Robert Woods.

[@JoelWelter]

The Lippert t-shirt is the french kiss for sponsors. :)

[@LoveYourRV]

haha, they keep sending me shirts, got 6 or 7 now so thought I better finally wear one in a video. I have to say they have pretty high quality swag. Got a nice hat too.

[@debmarie55]

We just bought a 2021 Gulfstream Class C with the screen shot already installed on the door. It works great!

[@SK-qt1rm]

As always, it’s a pleasure to watch your videos. Just recommended you to some newbies.

[@LoveYourRV]

Awesome, thank you!

[@n1njazx7]

Another great mod Ray. You sure do good work. Keep the videos coming.

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks 👍

[@carolynmesser7199]

Nice idea thank you . I learn a lot from you😊

[@robertburgess6100]

Good job Ray. The friction hinges are junk I I stand add a holder to keep the door open the other problem with them is they get really sticky in the wet weather.

[@LoveYourRV]

Interesting, I wonder what is causing the problem. I'll be sure to mention that. It will get a lot of wet weather for testing around here. I'll hang onto my OEM hinge and holder when I take it off.

[@showcasecharlie11]

Cheers Ray...hope you and the Mrs are well..

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks, doing OK, better now that summer is on the horizon and the weather is warmer and sunnier. :)

[@pmartin924]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just had the same problem last weekend. I was going to ship it back, now I’m going to do the do it you way. I finished the friction door hinge last weekend, it’s amazing.

[@LoveYourRV]

Glad I could help

[@philstucker1312]

Great video as always! Looking forward to your video on the friction hinge. Thanks!

[@glenschumannGlensWorkshop]

Thanks. Nice review. Always a good solution around from Ray.

[@WeretheRoberts]

Nothing hard is ever easy. Lol. But you make it look easy buddy. As always, nice mod. God bless! Kevin

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks 👍

[@timf6916]

You the MAN Ray

[@rickbeyer6633]

Looking forward to seeing the friction hinge install. Our 5th wheel came with the hinges but it began failing after a couple years. The pins that are supposed to provide the friction bent and then ripped little notches in the lip of the door frame so that we finally had to install a door latch.

[@LoveYourRV]

Ouch, that's not good! So far from what I gather the OEM friction hinge installs seem really hit and miss. Some love them but a great many despise them and some people have replaced them with regular non-fiction. I gather that the OEM installs have 2 friction hinges and 1 regular type. The aftermarket I'm installing is 2 friction hinges that add to the existing 3 regular hinges on my OEM Challenger door for a total of 5. So, will be a little different arrangement than OEM. I'm definitely gonna inform my contacts at Lippert of all of this, though I do know they monitor my comment section anyway. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Ray

[@rickbeyer6633]

@@LoveYourRV I had considered replacing the door, because of the hinges and that we don't like the frosted window. Problem is that the graphics on our trailer extend over the existing door and the new door wouldn't have the graphics. Therefore the $8 latch.

[@dannythervguy]

Good job Ray, I have one on my door as well and I love it 😀

[@garthhart6642]

Another great video Ray. I've been using the Camco springs for years now & they work well but need to be replace every few years

[@DavidSmith-vo3nd]

Thank you Ray, I really enjoy your video's ;-)

[@pauljohnston7700]

Another Pro install.:) You look good rocking the Lippert Tee. Hoping the BC border opens on CA. Day

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks :)

[@latergator3367]

Over engineering is what makes Canadians great ! Godspeed.

[@dingdongdaddy589]

I’ll be honest - first time I ever heard over engineer and Canadian in the same sentence.

[@tommcl386]

Great job as always

[@garryhammond3117]

Thanks Ray! - I have the same unit to install on my non Lippert door that different still than your door. - Wish me luck! - I'm not all that handy. lol

[@LoveYourRV]

Good luck! :)

[@dv7431]

Had our for a year love it

[@bentrider]

Thanks Ray! Hey, when you get around to it, could you see if the whole door will be pulled closed when the screen door is attached to it.

[@LoveYourRV]

Sort of, but its not really designed to do that. I tested ours and it does pull it towards the closed position but doesn't latch the door. I have my rig a little nose high so door was already able to sort of close on its own anyway.

[@bentrider]

@@LoveYourRV Thanks!😀

[@robertburgess6100]

No ours is just the middle one. I think most of the problem is it gets dirt in it mostly from traveling down the interstate. One I lubricant it with dry lube it frees up and doesn't drag but they just don't hold very good in the wind especially if it's a gusty. Maybe the add on will work better. And yes our Montana HC can OEM with it. And noticed the problem from day one.

[@Hundert1]

Nice auto closing screen door like at homes👍 Good creative adaption. Maybe there is a universal brand available. 🤔 Ever replace the black bristles at the bottom of the screen doors? Maybe they aren't replaceable?

[@LoveYourRV]

Thanks. If you do a google search for "RV brush door sweep" you'll find some links. For the springs there is a Camco universal but not as nice looking - amzn.to/3w6YNKK

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

I am looking forward to that friction hinge video; I wish our Jayco had come with a friction hinge. I liked the models that had them a lot, but I think they were glass doors and I don’t remember which manufacturer.

[@dingdongdaddy589]

No joke, friction hinges are more trouble than they are worth. The doors are so thin, over time the stress it takes to shut the door causes more problems than if your door swings and slams open all the time.

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

@@dingdongdaddy589 so does it end up warping the door then?

[@dingdongdaddy589]

@@liquidrockaquatics3900 - The instances I have seen basically ripped the door jamb from the trailer. Every time I close my door with friction hinges, I can see the stress in the door and jamb. They really need to just have friction on one toe of the hinge, not all - or make them adjustable. I have dumped silicon spray, tri-flow, nothing helps reduce the tension.

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

@@dingdongdaddy589 I appreciate the information. I guess I will spend my time and money putting in a new fan and skip this hinge all together

[@LoveYourRV]

It will be interesting to see the result on my door and jam. My door has 3 normal hinges and will add the two aftermarket friction hinges for a total of 5 hinges. Seems that should spread the forces out. Another commented that they get stiff after wet weather.

[@robertburgess6100]

We live in Washington so it gets alot rain and snow. But even when we travel to dry areas it gotten very dragging feeling. A little lube fixes it. I have talked to others with the same problem. One guy I talked to said it bent his door frame befor he they took to get it fixed. He doesn't do any work on his rig. I was a builder so our's never goes back to the dealer of course now it's out of warranty any way.

[@LoveYourRV]

So, I assume it came installed OEM? I'm out of the loop on new models. By the looks of the after market one they are sending will I leave my 3 old hinges in place and install the two friction hinges in-between them. So there will be 5 hinges. Is that what yours is? Thanks Ray

[@DennisWintjes2]

Thanks Ray for sharing Like 456

[@56chevy11]

Just think how many kids will be saved...from never closing the screen and feeding the flys. Lol

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

I’m guilty of it myself just because that screen door is so light weight and the latch is so stiff that sometimes it bounces off unless you deliberately push it shut or ride the door all the way in

[@Hundert1]

Different topic, have you tried the Camco Tire- Aide ? Have you ever had a blowout? Did you make a good video for RV owner self tire changes both individual, if we have a flat, and how to remove all four so we can bring em to the shop for new tires and balancing. Please include best and or different methods and essential tools such as do you recommend a breaker bar and torque wrench? From my limited research the Goodyear Endurance seems to be the the best tire in the 225/75 R15 size I need. I heard Airstream had lots of blowouts when they used the Goodyear Marathon and now are selling many trailers with LT tires. Wondering what your feelings are about using LT tires. LongLongHoneymoon RVers from KZbin and even BigTruckBigRV KZbin guy also are positive about using LT tires. I think Michelin may make an LT in the 225/75 R15 size. Thanks Good luck with the screen door ☘☀️

[@LoveYourRV]

Have used the Tire Aid in the past but found it didn't lift high enough so had to use a 2x8 under it. Good in a pinch. I've changed though to using a 20 ton jack under a U-bolt on the axle close to the tire. I find it only takes a few inches of lift to change the tire. But you can check your owners manual for proper jacking and lug nut torque procedure and specs. I've never had a blowout. I've been using Goodyear Endurance for a few years now - www.loveyourrv.com/goodyear-endurance-trailer-tires-eezrv-tpms-review-update/ If can't take the trailer in I will usually take one tire off each side and take them to the shop two at a time, that way there is a tire on each side to support the RV. I prefer to use ST (Specials Trailer) tires versus LT (Light Truck) since I have a relatively light weight trailer they work great. ST tires have thicker sidewalls and are designed to take the side ways extra turning forces. But as you move up in trailer weight many prefer to go to the light truck tires. They can support a higher load and last longer.

[@Hundert1]

@@LoveYourRV ja, it was funny or a bit odd because that LonglongHoneymoon guy spent time explaining with a bunch of reasons how ST tires are specially designed and stuff just for trailers then the only thing positive he says about LT tires is he "thinks" LT tires are made to higher standards than ST tires. That's what I was thinking two at a time. I have two spares I may put on. I just wasn't sure two tires would be strong enough alone. Maybe I'll block the trailer up a little too ? just in case. I got the feeling we shouldn't raise trailer up from axles and not sure exactly why. I think maybe because the axle could crack? So you say from the axle mount plate is totally safe? I don't have such great access to jack it up from the frame. I will check my manual and see what it recommends. Thanks

[@LoveYourRV]

A lot of people switched to LT when so many poor quality ST tires were being used by the OEM and got sick of blowouts. But lately, there have been a few like Goodyear Endurance and Maxxis that have been making much better quality ST with higher speed ratings. That was a big issue for speedsters before most ST were rated at a max of 65 MPH and people would drive too fast and overheat them, especially if running a little low on air. The Goodyear rating is 87 MPH so quite the difference.

[@Hundert1]

@@LoveYourRV I see, I'm for driving safest speed. 65 is fine speed to travel especially with the rig. I just checked, I have top mount springs with only U bolts to jack from. Thanks, best regards

[@Les_Burris]

Is it strong enough to pull the main door shut when the screen door is hooked to it?

[@LoveYourRV]

Sort of, but its not really designed to do that. I test ours and it does pull it towards the closed position but doesn't latch the door. I have my rig a little nose high so door was already able to sort of close on its own anyway.

[@justsomeguy6474]

I like it!

[@catbird1759]

How is it going to work correctly when the riveted end is in the pinch point of the screen door? Not beyond the screen door frame. 🤔

[@LoveYourRV]

It's a flexible woven fabric like the stuff used for ratchet straps. Very flat. Plenty of space between the door and frame for it. Been on there for almost 2 years of full-time RVing now, with no problems. Cheers, Ray

[@ldcooper1]

Nice T Shirt….

[@coreymerritt7742]

Nice mod ray but 3 test tries is not quite enough at least 12 lol 😆

[@LoveYourRV]

hahaha, ya, will see if it lasts the summer and report back. :)

[@bobcloughjr]

Love your show but this can be done w a $5 door spring and 2 screws.

[@LoveYourRV]

I think your paying the premium for the looks and its been calibrated to close with just the right force and perfectly fit a Lippert Door. Camco sells a universal spring one much cheaper - amzn.to/3ygw2NJ

[@johnhines3591]

It's a spring in a tube for $24. A bungee cord would do the same.

[@LoveYourRV]

I think your paying the premium for the looks and its been calibrated to close with just the right force and perfectly fit a Lippert Door. Camco sells a universal fit one much cheaper but is just a spring - amzn.to/3ygw2NJ

[@billvegas8146]

But not for long. Especially in the desert.

[@ran6110]

Time to move on, I never realize how much of your time is selling stuff.

[@loriemonroe76]

But it’s stuff that we can use and how to install!

[@LoveYourRV]

Yes, its been like that for years and years. Lets me make lots of free content versus charging for it and often time hours a day answering people's questions for free.

[@metaxaanabeer]

@@LoveYourRV Hang in there, do not let the deplorables grind you down.