LISA: Definitive Edition - Terry and Brad Campfire Conversation

[@SrMadru]

Right after this terry got his neck broke by peter on my run, god fucking dammit

[@saltysalt7627]

LISA moment

[@obsidironpumicia4074]

"Don't worry, Brad! As soon as you get your feelings across to Buddy, I'm sure your relationship will improve at breakneck speeds!"

[@Pudding404]

Terry was unemplyed before the flash, his life wasn't going anywhere. The flash really improved Terry as a person when he met Brad. This exchange really melted my heart.

[@GensokyoBoySlvt]

🙂

[@uberlazio5924]

"Just promise me Brad dont turn into a monster like everyone else" This break my heart even more.

[@Notcreative6331]

I like how Lisa vanishes from this area after this conversation

[@sissel2]

I think it’s Brad not letting himself feel so much guilt, even if it’s just for a moment.

[@jojofanatico6928]

for a brief moment, brad forget her, all his pain got away...

[@bajscast]

In the alternate one with Mad Dog, she's there permanently afterwards.

[@thetarr2]

terry sitting upright is the greatest moment in history

[@ENBYSS]

not gonna lie, when "Don't turn into a monster" popped up my heart just snapped in half right there - knowing I damn well can't fulfill that

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

I've heard a theory that's the last thing Lisa said to him

[@terryhintz3189]

Man, Terry in definitive edition got glow up.

[@paperhat_boi]

What's your secret my man

[@rpghorrorfan879]

Omg hi!!!

[@clydemcmanus2473]

I unfortunately got Nern and he kept talking for like ten minutes straight while Brad was just trying to sleep

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

How is that a bad thing? It’s Nern’s 6th ever textbox.

[@clydemcmanus2473]

I had a bug how the text was slow and lasted 3 hours

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

@@clydemcmanus2473 Well now you have an accurate version.

[@SenderBender63]

When Nern says it’s Nerning time and proceeded to talk about how much he hates his wife for 5 hours straight

[@atwistedb]

@@clydemcmanus2473canon

[@atpsoldat6108]

Man, this makes the final confrontation hurts so much more.

[@hermeister3870]

I havent gone through the definitive edition yet so if this was changed my bad, but at least in normal painful, those are hallucinations, brad doesn't kill his party. For all we know they're relatively safe on the other side stuck without a boat probably wondering where TF he is.

[@schwinkle716]

@@hermeister3870 It's only a theory.

[@skeletronatday]

A GAME THEOR-

[@retiredaccount6032]

​@hermeister3870 nah they defo died, all his party members died at final confrontation. Thats why they cant be seen in joyful, and why buffalo van dyke, party member of brad, is seen cut from the warlords list.

[@Ldwg67282]

​@@hermeister3870 we dont know if its truly a hallucination or not, but if we dont have any party members alive "hallucinations of friends" will attack you instead. It was also said all of brads companions are dead after painful which means they died either way

[@ValeriaPaper]

Wait WAS BRAD FUCKING BLUSHING OH MY GOD

[@Komnen0s]

Despite what he says, it seems like Brad has some sincere affection for Terry. I love how tender this scene is, especially with the visuals and the ethereal music that plays.

[@CDUltimateX]

​@@Komnen0syou are right after all Brad open his feeling to Terry (Even if it was a litle knowing how Brad never talk about his feeling, toughs, our worries to no one...Really means a lot

[@ValeriaPaper]

THIS This is the true end of the game. No killing your team and completely losing your mind over Buddy, just sitting by the campfire with my boi Terry. * my ugly crying is heard in the distance * Aw geez man, it feels so bizarre seeing this after all those years since i played the game the last time.

[@Ougerosity598]

ValeriaPaper is crying deeply.

[@switterbeet40K]

awww Brad was blushing. He's just not used to affection I guess

[@SenderBender63]

Holy shit I never noticed that, it’s very subtle but kinda funny in a sorta sadish bittersweet way yk

[@Komnen0s]

Ding knocked it out of the park with the new songs in the definitive edition, especially the one that plays in this scene (it's titled "Blue Spotted Cheetah" in the music player). He's come a long way as a musician since the original release of the game. I can't believe it's been almost a decade now.

[@glitchmaster2672]

I cried. Terry is such a good character. Both from a writing and gameplay perspective.

[@rain3554]

I heard he was design to be hated

[@aqualitymeme9476]

Long time Lisa fan here. I haven't touched the definitive edition yet and this is the only content I allowed myself to look at. I'm shocked. Truly shocked. No doubt, this is a masterpiece.

[@hyperinvox9129]

come on Austin you can’t just pull out that Rain World tier track after dropping the most emotional cutscene brad has with a party member

[@jtlego1]

If I had a nickel for every time an Indie Dev/composer dropped the soundfont style/gimmick to just *windmill slam* the feels with genuine instrumentation, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much, but its weird that its happened twice.

[@guapito_angelito]

Ugly waterfalls of sweaty tears.

[@lalikopter2707]

this single hug means a LOT, especially when you consider Queen Roger's bonfire scene. Brad's trauma keeps making him push people away or get physical when even a single hug is involved, so you KNOW Brad's trust and love for Terry, platonical or not, is not something to take lightly. he trusts that funny cheetah man to death.

[@dankybankey6541]

"platonical or not" dont even fucking imply that. this isnt the undertale fandom

[@giygaswashere2808]

​@@dankybankey6541Imagine being this fragile that you get this angry at the idea of a non-platonic relationship between them and take a shit on another game just to prove that you're very very straight

[@messiahalba7236]

@@giygaswashere2808 Just because there are no women doesnt mean that any touch with a man is obligatory something gay because there is no other option, is a little dense to never see a true friendship because some people will always think of love as the romantic or sexual way

[@andron7108]

why not?@@dankybankey6541

[@jojofanatico6928]

​​@@dankybankey6541Personally, I think Austin created Brad with the intention of him being gay. The whole fight against Marty in Brad's nightmare shows that his father felt that he was "a pussy", and that he was not a man enough and that he should understand what it was to be a real man. There could be 2 meanings: Brad was too weak and sensitive, or Brad was gay. Even when talking to Lisa at the end of his nightmare, he mentions that Marty beated him because he had put on makeup, and that Brad apparently enjoyed putting it on. Furthermore, thinking that in a world of only men there are no homosexuals is ridiculous. The fact that he is gay is nothing more than a nuance of his character, which adds depth to his conflict with his father and how difficult it is for him to open up to others. I don't think Brad is in love with Terry, but I do think he's gay. Although, it really doesn't matter if he is or not, but I believe that he is and I have reasons to support it.

[@bigswigg3631]

God, this one hurts so bad. The ending scene gives you such a false sense of hope because for everyone that played this game, they know no one is getting spared at the end. There's just no way out of that mess, not at that point

[@sanfordt.killer5236]

Easily the best campfire scene. It's really touching how this one moment made Brad, even just for a moment, forget about his pains.

[@danielcollinson101]

Bestcampfire scene? He didn't even mention Rad Rod. 0/10

[@Bitter-Wounds]

Honestly this broke my fucking heart playing silently at 3 am

[@rando5638]

Terry Rupert Hintz. Former cancer patient, self-imposed Lord of Help, weakest man in Olathe and the best goddamned human being we ever had the privilege of knowing.

[@donotbendy]

When was Terry a cancer patient?

[@rando5638]

@@donotbendy It's mentioned in his character bio that he used to suffer from a severe illness as a kid that gave him a very isolated upbringing, resulting in his present-day pursuit of friendship/approval from others and hatred of being on his own.

[@donotbendy]

@@rando5638 When I saw the comment, I look at the bio in the art collection and didn't see anything that said that.

[@rpghorrorfan879]

Seeing Terry smile fills me with joy.

[@Bibi_ur]

Knowing how it is going to end hurts even more man

[@arloklenczon6811]

How ironic, considering your profile picture 😂

[@AntSugar]

3:14 Brad's blushing 😂 this part is so adorable I love it

[@carzdroid]

i physically felt my heart shattering into small pieces

[@RedVermelho]

This game is the best thing to ever happen after Jesus Christ

[@unknownmusicguy8637]

One thing i noticed i didn't need to use Joy for quite a while after this... Terry is the best character in this game.

[@cornbeefboy7767]

Also, after you wake up, Brad has the Cool status effect applied to him

[@corazondonquixote7479]

sorry to burst your bubble but i think that's just from the hair-gro item you get from Columbo (it gives you permanent Cool status)

[@brendandash]

brad just accepting the hug hit so hard

[@zainy_inc154]

Man the ending makes this scene hit different

[@whaleshey]

when i played terry got beheaded by satan immediately after this scene

[@faustoamaro1043]

me too

[@MisterJohnDoe]

"When one of the characters starts getting too much screentime"

[@jojofanatico6928]

For a moment, all the pain and guilt that Brad carried for years disappeared. The genuine touch of a gesture of friendship and connection that a hug is was enough to make him forget, even if only for a few seconds... Lisa the painful is a game that if it wants to make you cry, it will make you cry... "Just promise me, Brad... Don't turn into a monster... like everyone else."

[@MorrysIllusion]

transcript if anyone needs it: Brad: Terry. Can I ask you something? Terry: ... Seriously? You've never asked me anything. Why ask me? Brad: Aren't you the... lord of help? Or hints? Terry: I... Right... Of course I am! Brad: I've had something on my mind for a while now, but... I don't know who I can trust. Terry: Oh Brad... What do you wanna know? Brad: Well- Here it goes... About Buddy... Am I... ...wrong? Terry: Wrong? About what exactly? Brad: It's just, in the past... I've always tried to turn pain into something positive- -but no matter how hard I try to help myself and others, this... ...darkness always follows me. In the end I've hurt a lot of people. I never did it on purpose, but I've ruined lives... ...and now it feels like I'm doing it all over again chasing Buddy. Terry: I see... Uh... Wow, ya. I dunno. Brad: Hm... Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. Terry: No, no! I'm just surprised. I wasn't expecting all that from you. If I'm honest... I never had friends. Or any family I care to talk about. Hard to believe, but I was very shy and lonely. I wanted more than anything to connect, though. I wanted people to like me... actually it's more than that. I wanted to feel needed. I needed purpose! Ultimately, that became an obsession. I tried so hard to fit in and that pushed everyone I liked away. Except you. I'm my authentic self around you... ...and I don't know why, but somehow you don't hate me... And that kind of blows my mind. On top of that now you're confiding in me something so personal I just-- [Terry smiles] Brad: Oh no. ...Please don't do that. Terry: I'm sorry Brad! Hahaha, you just have no idea how you've made me feel! I can't help it! ... Terry: And dammit, Brad! You're like the coolest strongest guy I know! Not to mention you can be kinda sweet when you want to... I think deep down you have a good heart. So just try to listen to it more. ... Terry: Here's a hint. Brad: Hmm? Terry: Do you know when your heart cries the loudest? Brad: No. [Terry hugs Brad] Terry: When you can barely hear it because all the chaos in your head is fighting against it. Brad: Now I... REALLY regret saying anything... Terry: Hahaha! [scene pans up towards the sky] Just promise me, Brad. Don't turn into a monster like everyone else. [scene ends]

[@D0LifE]

Thank you

[@prikoker]

life ruining god my heart cant handle this

[@ultrasigma3233]

now i just finished the game today and i didnt see this one yet but HOLY SHIT THIS IS HEAVY AS FUCK. as someone who already liked terry's character , this upped him up by a billion (edit:HOLY SHIT I JUST REALISED THIS. when terry hugs brad , brad blushes.)

[@abecedarianf]

THE HUG MAAAAAN!!!! OMG I CAN'T!!!!

[@gigaganon]

i wish this was referenced in some way when brad ask buddy to hug him

[@IAMNOTRANA]

Terry is the greatest character of all time.

[@postalone8267]

I LOVE THEM SO BADDD

[@postalone8267]

NOOO NOOO THE ENDING NOOOO

[@Ynnep-Chan]

It is canon now muthafuggas!!!!

[@ReaverTheSurvivalist]

I don’t know why, but the simple act of all the Lisa’s disappearing as he has his conversation with Terry made me genuinely start tearing up. So when he leaned into Terry’s hug and the last one dissolved into nothing I felt so much more than pain and joy, I felt genuine catharsis seeing a man that didn’t deserve anything that happened to him… Forget about the past, even for a moment. He didn’t need drugs. He doesn’t need to fight. He just needs genuine human connection, and to open up to someone he cares about. :(

[@edn2674]

WHO SHOWED DINGALING THE FANFICS???

[@sraluch777]

me

[@jojofanatico6928]

men, its just so sweet. in a romantic or just platonic way, this scene is just amazing, wholesome... and really sad.

[@donbototo5068]

Me veo en la obligacion de ponerme a llorar

[@angelesmailenrodasguassard3536]

Igual, me duele, me lastima, ME QUEMA POR DENTRO AAAAAAAAA! 😢😢😢

[@jojofanatico6928]

wn, creo que nunca había llorado tanto con un juego. Y cuando digo llorar es llorar de verdad, no soltar unas pocas lágrimas. Ningún juego había logrado eso en mi...

[@sabbathb6548]

Me if and when I get to this scene: Okay you are going on the bench you are not dying you glorious ball of sunshine!

[@glitchmaster2672]

but the hottest dance...

[@sabbathb6548]

@@glitchmaster2672 He needs to be protected at all costs!

[@glitchmaster2672]

@@sabbathb6548 but the Gasoline Spit combo...

[@sabbathb6548]

@@glitchmaster2672 I’ll survive if that means I don’t loss him in battle or fight him in the end!

[@QuintetMagician]

BRADTERRY SHIPPERS ARE FEASTING THANK YOU AUSTIN

[@itsprettystabby6331]

we are LIVING

[@itsprettystabby6331]

THE FEAST IS BOUNTIFUL

[@schwinkle716]

I doubt Brad gives a shit about romance.

[@itsprettystabby6331]

@@schwinkle716 damn you really changed my mind. i dont actually care about bradterry anymore. im so glad some random person on the internet has corrected me on my personal interpretation. Thank you so dearly (im drawing bradterry smooching as we speak)

[@schwinkle716]

@@itsprettystabby6331Just draw them Gachimuchi style. I appreciate quality homo-sex.

[@serventofchaos]

if you trigger this before the Queen Roger conversation I'd be curious to see if the dialogue there changes as a result of being hugged.

[@floydwabag]

For a brief moment, Brad felt peace

[@uugabuuga7450]

I honestly feel bad for the people who decided not to play this after the most minor of changes were made to some jokes

[@dally1398]

Such an overreaction. It’s ironic that the people waving the “free speech” flag are boycotting because Lisa is a fucking ballsy game that deals with challenging themes other games don’t touch. The changes made don’t even have a significant effect on the experience imo

[@uugabuuga7450]

@@dally1398 I was shocked when I realized they hadn't changed the salvation rangers "no race jokes please!" gag, and people were only complaining about the changed noises. (The new jungle noises were a lot better anyway) It's so goofy considering that some of the new stuff added was arguably some of the series darkest. Then again I'm not sure if people who were bothered enough to not even give this a shot would have appreciated most of it.

[@giygaswashere2808]

What were the changes people complained about?

[@Robots2124]

@@giygaswashere2808 salvation black's animal noise in the first salvation ranger cutscene was edited to be an elephant's trumpeting instead of a primate's screech. and also rick junior's lips were edited from pink to red. that's it. oh and also the playstation version changed all instances of liquor to instead be soda in joyful. but sony is honestly really finicky about what can and cannot be displayed on their platform. doki doki literature club got censored specifically on that platform to have black "glitch" blood instead of regular red blood during more violent scenes.

[@Ougerosity598]

For a fleeting moment, Brad was able to let go of Lisa.

[@sinnombre973]

traducción para mis colegas que hablan español y adoran esta obra de arte: -Terry. ¿Puedo preguntarte algo? + ... ¿En serio? Nunca me habías preguntado nada, ¿por qué preguntarme a mí? - ¿No eres tú el... amo de la ayuda? ¿O pistas? + Yo... Cierto... ¡Ese soy yo! - He tenido algo en mi mente por un tiempo, pero... no sé en quién puedo confiar. + Oh, Brad... ¿Qué quieres saber? - Bueno- Aquí va... Sobre Buddy... ¿acaso estoy... equivocado? + ¿Equivocado? ¿Sobre qué, exactamente? - Es sólo que, en el pasado... siempre he intentado transformar mi dolor en algo positivo, sin embargo no importa qué tanto intente ayudarme y a otros... Esta... oscuridad siempre me sigue. Al final, he lastimado a muchas personas. Nunca a propósito, pero he arruinado vidas... y ahora se siente cómo si lo volviera a hacer de nuevo, persiguiendo a Buddy. + Ya veo... Uh... Wow, vaya. Pues no sé :) - Quizás no debí haber dicho nada... + ¡No, no! Sólo estoy sorprendido. No esperaba esto de ti. Si te soy honesto, nunca tuve amigos, o familia con la que me importara hablar. Es difícil de creer, pero era muy solitario y tímido. Aunque, lo que más quería era conectar. Quería que las personas me quisieran. En realidad era más que eso. Me urgía sentirme necesitado. ¡Necesitaba un propósito! Últimamente, ello se había vuelto una obsesión. Intentaba con tanta fuerza encajar que terminaba alejando a todos los que quería. Excepto tú. Soy mi verdadero yo contigo... y no sé muy bien porqué, pero, por alguna razón, tú no me odias. Y eso, realmente, me desconcierta. Y, sobre todo, me estás confiando algo tan personal, yo... :'( - Oh, no. Por favor, no hagas eso... - ¡Lo siento, Brad! Jajaja... ¡no tienes idea de cómo me has hecho sentir! ¡No puedo evitarlo! Y, maldición, Brad, eres el tipo más genial y fuerte que conozco. Sin mencionar que puedes llegar a ser algo dulce cuando quieres... Creo que, en el fondo, tienes un gran corazón. Sólo intenta escucharlo más a menudo... He aquí una pista. - ¿Mmm? + ¿Sabes cuándo tu corazón llora con más fuerza? - No. + Cuando apenas puedes escucharlo porque todo el caos en tu cabeza intenta silenciarlo. - Ahora REALMENTE me arrepiento de haber hablado... + ¡Jajaja! *Sólo prométeme, Brad... Que no te convertirás en un monstruo, cómo todos los demás.*

[@sushi6top]

Absolutely beautiful

[@taisiasulina6730]

i may be wrong, but it appears that this cutscene is not possible to achieve in a run where you've sacrificed your party members(even if they weren't terry) for buddy's safety. either that or it cannot be triggered if you've removed terry from your party at any point

[@taisiasulina6730]

nevermind, it did appear after i beat the bloodmoon location. i am still unsure what the trigger is, maybe it's after a certain level terry reaches?

[@suriyas1456]

It's random

[@Asupreme]

this interaction only happens here, being one of the few that i know are location specific. it's also random when it happens, i assume there's just a chance for a random campfire event to be available after doing something (i.e beating a boss, making progress in the game..)

[@BottomOfThePitOldChannel]

FUCK, MY HEART AAAAAH

[@brunojc1372]

omg

[@abysschef5078]

Do you need to rest using a specific bonfire for these interactions to activate? Or will any bonfire work? Does anyone know how these work? So far I’ve gotten one with Nern, one with Beastborne, one with Tiger man and one with Queen Roger.

[@MapleEllie2]

Some of them do need specfic bonfires, i'm still finding them myself so i don't know each one

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

@@MapleEllie2This one for example has to take place in this location

[@mikamixtopics]

Ok, NOW I'm feeling guilty for deciding to keep my items instead of Terry.

[@Asupreme]

Items are temporary, a true friend is forever.

[@prlennox5589]

i can relate, i felt the worst guilt when fighting him too

[@abidwithtwoas2719]

I got this on my first playthrough and genuinely thought the game was about to end

[@parkeypence5974]

Stuff like this felt like it was missing from the game when I first played it, it’s so nice to see it fleshed out this way. DE was one hell of an addition

[@DwayneAPurple]

The whole ending where it pans upward towards the sky makes this the best of the campfire conversations.

[@thefreelancequeen]

MIDDLE 👏 AGED 👏 MAN 👏 YAOI 👏

[@Beltboy]

i would wholeheartedly object but the more I looked into it the more true this statement became

[@robotica671]

old man yaoi real

[@jojofanatico6928]

brad blushing and, at the end, resting his head on terry's shoulder... god, austin... you made me cry like no game has ever managed to do. edit: 7 months have passed since i first watched this video... and it stills makes me cry hahaha

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

Brad: I love you... But I really have to go... Lisa: Just promise me, Brad. Don't turn into a monster like everyone else.

[@sahilhossian8212]

Lore of LISA: Definitive Edition - Terry and Brad Campfire Conversation momentum 100

[@angelesmailenrodasguassard3536]

I know it's a little out of something Brad do But I understand it's necessary. Also the hug surprise me, Brad really need that, he never had been hugged ( apart from Buddy )

[@rattlethatanimation]

Brad finally gets the hug he needed

[@arloklenczon6811]

Terry Hintz is far too precious for this world. He should be preserved at all costs. Let the Nipple in my Inventory be a reminder that no sacrifice is too great for Terry.

[@Darkspyre2]

what's the trigger for this one? I've had terry in my party the entire game, gotten all 4 boat parts (so nothing left to do) and it still won't happen!

[@ГолубевМатвей-э3т]

sequel at gale motorcycle club

[@rissmebesce71]

3:27 how its called the song?

[@Bibi_ur]

Blue spotted cheetah if I'm not mistaking

[@dumbvillage9253]

Kinda sucks that this area has so much dialogue, but you never sleep here because EWC is literally 2 steps away and you risk literally murdering your party member.

[@MAILBOX_12]

I played the entire game with terry but somehow never got this scene

[@axl4321]

Damn!!!

[@caseycadaver99]

I love Brad and Terry so much I wish gay people were real

[@MatthewVega-w2y]

Hey I'm making a video about Lisa and was wondering if I could use a part of this gameplay for it? With proper credit of course! I've been trying to get this cutscene for a while now and it just will not trigger.

[@pollatron5712]

No habia visto esto y en español qlguien lo tiene?

[@johnnysasakithethird1209]

Why would you speed through the text shit for brains

[@toothpick6517]

song please?

[@RoarkeIsBored]

"Blue-spotted Cheetah"

[@TschenseSense]

Thx

[@even1ndeath]

boy yuri

[@rongen946]

THATS CALLED OLD MAN YAOI

[@motomoto14yearsago3]

Moments like this make me feel even more sad that Terry was kidnapped 20 minutes into the game and I never got him back because then Percy got kidnapped and I never saw Terry again 😔

[@jefftheboxboy]

god bless gay people

[@jer8279]

Ifi were in THAT situation. No buttstuff though

[@theequalizer694]

undertale ending

[@Hatredposting]

This is so yaoi

[@EeveeEsp]

As much as I love these guys, this just felt non-canon to me. Not only that, but this particular scene really messes with the ending, when Brad says "he's never been held before" Meh, I'll stick with the original version. Also, Brad opening up like that to Terry seems out of character for me :/

[@Ynnep-Chan]

What happened at the campfire stays at the campfire 😏

[@joro8541]

This whole thing feels off to me, I saw the secret boss fight that took 2 hours and it just looks like an edgy mod, I’d rather just wait until it’s all compiled which is super sad because I was really looking forward to playing but I haven’t liked anything I’ve seen so far.

[@AikisDominator]

Yeah, I felt something was off. Like they try rewrite and "soy up" my man Brad. He wouldn't doubt himself about Buddy. Brad always gave me Bud Spencer aura with his gruffness and silent persona.

[@randomdud35]

Well to be fair Brad DIDN'T want to be held by Terry, but by Buddy. Granted, yeah, it can come off as fanservice so to speak. The idea of fighting Marty for two hours is baffling though

[@scriggle3564]

​@josefelipehernandez9721 yeah abs along that your party members can permanently die during it as well like???

[@alexiryo]

Am i the only one who thinks this conversation fucking blows and is completely contradictory to the rest of the game

[@angelesmailenrodasguassard3536]

No, you are not the only who thinks in that way but don't worry Austin will give us a beautiful (worst) ending :D

[@jojofanatico6928]

Why and how is contradictory?

[@breakbeatss5174]

this clearly was written by a woman. Not saying its a bad thing tho, some emotional opennes goes long way, just very unusual for lisa game

[@jojofanatico6928]

no? lol you just seen two men talking and one opening himself to trust and you say a women write this? like, we seen the same video? men can be and are sentimental and emotional, just like women. and its not unusual in lisa's games, the creator, who is a dude, put this bittersweet moments sometimes in the game. it just add more complexity to theor characters.

[@breakbeatss5174]

​@@jojofanatico6928I know what I'm talking abt, am a pretty emotional guy myself but we just don't express feelings like its depicted here. This clearly is a woman's vision of it

[@C4LLM3AN1MAL]

this is a weird thing to say

[@dogenjoyer2480]

​@@C4LLM3AN1MALit is

[@warlord4thewitness]

weird thing to say

[@Seccolata2]

yeeah