LISA The Timeless in Pointless: Drunkard's Paradise - Party Member Guide

[@Pudding404]

Alex and Elton are both older men, but it really shows how different they are. Despite Elton being this grumpy old man, ironically, his bluntness makes him a melting pot of friendship. It makes me so happy that he convinced Geen to stay when salt crab joined and how he got along pretty well with Georgy and converted Chriss. Him not touching the satellite, and him pointing out that they could've avoided Borkislav really says how much more common sense he has than Alex but is less adventurous.

[@daniilpn7871]

Timeless wisdom...

[@HYDEinallcaps]

"Melting pot of friendship?" But he throws bottles, not cans.

[@calvinanderson4245]

​@@HYDEinallcaps FRANK BOMBARD IS A *HAMBOOOOOONE*

[@rando5638]

I'll be honest, having the ability to pick up enough red flags to realise that Jason can't be trusted and quietly get your boys out of there in the dead of night before any of them have to die/get ruptured was surprisingly nice.

[@scriggle3564]

It would be super cool if the ending had every party member you've gained hop on the ending bus with you to the city. Maybe they could even talk about how they do/dont believe in it before seeing the lights from the city

[@lolrus5555]

I can only imagine the nasty surprise Jason will be in for when his old buddy/worst nightmare Hugo wakes him up and he subsequently realizes he has precisely _ZERO_ bodies he can use as shields/throw to the wolves against him. God, I can still only wonder just _what exactly_ happened between Hugo and Jason in the past that has the former so murderously set on hounding the latter, as well as just what exactly he apparently needs Jason alive for. Speculating about all this (along with what the pink pill does and just what that fleshy thing in Alex's flashbacks and dreams are) makes me all the more salty that work on the MU has delayed any progress we'd see getting answers to these questions with Fool's Gold and Age Of Sickness.

[@RevenantNeverDies]

the pill would likely be a vaccine to the joy which the marauders may have mistaken as the way to banish the Ascenderum Seniorum from their village. which may be why they tried to get it back before that thing showed up and instakilled their entire village@@lolrus5555

[@Captain_Crabmeat]

"Georgy, shut the fuck up." at last someone says it!

[@thetarr2]

so much for "barely having enough space" in the bus in OG pointless when elton strolls up with like 9 people in tow (including like 3 jerseyheads)

[@ceddavis7441]

One former two reformed?

[@RevenantNeverDies]

i like the idea of the baby fishman being like a whole other party member that you have to trade a reliable source of water for. by putting him in the vase and letting him breathe you have effectively shown that you would rather let another creature live by sacrificing one of your basic human needs of survival. and the baby fish helps you fight the bad guys!!!!!!!!!! 10/10 character design

[@fishpog7685]

To be honest I went into this thinking it would be piss poor, but it actually looks really cool, I'm definitely gonna try it out given the chance!

[@fishpog7685]

Update, I played it, it's hella cool for a "X character in Y game" mod!

[@bruh1619]

I love how many party members you can get

[@devilsadvocate7241]

I'm happy Serjiro survives, it is a shame that he doesn't join though.

[@derangedfreackingtwistedps5048]

Local man too Schwasted to have enemies. Cant have shit in downtown olathe

[@MarabouPatriot]

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[@TaliabobMair]

Arnold reference goes hard, I hope his stats suck as bad here. (I'm also going to call the chair an honorary Gospel (and perhaps even Perfect Vermin) reference.)

[@NafedalbiFilms]

My blind playthrough is no more, but still, this fangame fangame fangame is some good shit

[@marooniballooni03759]

I'd love to watch a full playthrough with all the party members in this, not gonna lie.

[@HonkG.Womblatin]

you can't use em all in battle unfortunately

[@bucketts6148]

@@HonkG.Womblatinsomeone should make a mod for this game, or like any of these games where you can use all your boys in battle instead of them just standing on the side.

[@HonkG.Womblatin]

@@bucketts6148 would be a lil too strong wouldn't it

[@bucketts6148]

@@HonkG.Womblatin would need a bit of balancing but still, also props for responding

[@HonkG.Womblatin]

@@bucketts6148 also having more than 4 party members would just make turns drag out

[@kauedasilva1072]

Makes you wonder just how good Georgy really is.

[@calmspectator8573]

Thank you so much for this. It was difficult for me to figure out how to get each party member. Great work. Wish I could see the alternate ending. Edit: I just realized something. Should you or should you not have the 3rd fold if you want Alex?

[@martinpachu7125]

i don't think the folds really change any ending stuff,alex or not,so you don't really have to worry about them

[@jackallen99]

@@martinpachu7125 You're mostly right. The "Infinity" route is an opt-in so you can get a 3rd fold's worth of kills and be unaffected, but it's inaccurate to say they don't change ANY ending stuff since the "Infinity" route is still a thing that exists and needs you to be at the third fold to activate it.

[@ceddavis7441]

Surprised that elton jumped off rather than fight with like 9 people

[@victoriouswinner7745]

this is pretty cool, though i find some of the things with the jerseyheads a bit odd. cool how they changed things, so its not another mediocre character swap. cool mod, very cursed seeing the hd extremely well made timeless sprites next to the grimy and (admittedly) dated pointless sprites

[@Neobrim]

Elton in downtown olathe, what he gonna do?

[@AllThatIsMortal]

i did not expect to see arnold borchestra in here lol

[@marcusmendesmontano7167]

Shoutouts to this video for telling me brutal orchestra exists, imma go buy it now, thanks random youtuber, you have my gratitude

[@saladwear6797]

Good guide! Even after finding all party members myself, it still showed me some details I didn't know! This is a pretty fun mod, plenty of opportunity to talk with your party members, specially at the mountain park. Their dialogue changes after every boss defeated, up to 5 times! You also get to catch up to Alex in a bunch of occasions, checking in on his journey, its nice! That and the Infinity route is a ride!

[@egtemp317]

We’re legging it, down and dirty style.

[@arriasinsanite4886]

I'm really curious to see the movestes of those new characters now

[@AlterReaper]

guess you'll have to play the game now

[@arriasinsanite4886]

@@AlterReaper yeah eventually

[@cynthiaedith4122]

Yo. The Kent and Serjio are recruitable to get The Kent buy the rusty trimmer from the Chriss Bellucci merchant before The Kent becomes infinitized then go to him in the zein ka cave and he will give you 3 options either get a party pack get some mags or "Help" ask for help and he will come with you this allows for an interesting interaction with Clover the snake Serjio is a bit harder first get the rando patch then kill the crazy cave miners dont let the rando camp die so Will stays alive go to the cave with the dead miners and talk to the guy with tnt say you will use it to blow up rocks and he will give it to you then go to the Serjio arena with Ham in your party blow up the rocks and you will encounter a falling bridge aproach and after a cutscene you will duel Serjio if you win he will join you thats all have a good one

[@ImFangzBro]

Okay, uh, I wanna know a general idea of how each of the new characters play. So I can play the game and test them out in a party.

[@AlterReaper]

Georgy has new moves that didn't exist in the original sotws now that you can keep him, but I haven't actually used any of them to know what they do. Ern also has new moves, one restores his SP consistently, one inflicts Limber but will be removed if you use Balloon Fist, one is a stronger Beatdown with a chance to burn, one is a high damaging move that can only be used when you used Balloon Fist, and one is a weaker version of said move but you don't need to use Balloon Fist. John now has a random chance to do a variety of things whenever he uses his gun, one of which is still making himself dead. Arnold is a really unique character. He has a VERY limited SP pool but all of his skills cost only 1 SP. He only has 5 skills, one of which is his default attack, which doesn't cost any SP but deals negligible damage. His first skill recovers his SP and inflicts him with status effects that increases both of his offense stats, although these effects will get removed if he gets hit. His second skill is a punch that scales heavily with his attack stat, which can be increased by the previous skill. If you managed to max this out (the max amount of increase is 5) he can deal absolutely ridiculous damage. This skill also increases his special attack, but not his attack. His third skill is a cry that heals both him and a targeted teammate which scales heavily with his special attack. This skill increases his attack, but not his special attack. His last skill is a simple dodge, but he can still use his first skill during this, so this is a good way to set him up safely. Chriss is a typical wrestling character, he inflicts effects that are related to Fallen, such as Off Balance, and he also has a move that deals more damage to Fallen enemies. His best aspect in my opinion is his AoE move, since he's a TP character unlike Salt Crab, who has a small SP pool in the first place, Chriss can spam this move more and inflict good damage to every enemy. Aron is only an additional skill to Elton, but he's a pretty useful one, as Elton can now inflict Off Balance or Fallen pretty consistently, which pairs well with Chriss. Ham is a mostly support character, his moves will directly decrease a stat of the enemy, one of which has a chance to inflict Pissed, which is especially good since unlike the other stunning effects, you don't need to inflict Spooked or Off Balance in order to set it up to be effective. His default skill has him lying down to rest which regenerates his HP and SP, and locks him into a move where he wakes up and inflicts Spooked on everyone. His later moves are electric-based so he can pair up well with Salt Crab.

[@ImFangzBro]

@@AlterReaper I think I'm gonna go with Chriss and Georgy first, then. I'm a sucker for a good redemption arc, so...

[@eeeeee8317]

Are you gonna make a playthru? I couldnt make the infinity route since I cant heal ham radar for some reason.

[@AlterReaper]

no, playthroughs aren't really my thing did ham die before you managed to heal him? because if I recall, that happens if you trigger the save crow after anaconda's third fight

[@sulphurspanic26]

I haven't been able to keep Darry in my party, even after finishing the Garabge quest, checking his father's tombstone, and drinking the garbage juice, any help?

[@AlterReaper]

I may have miscommunicated by including the section of "saving" him you can't keep him in your party, the best you can do is get him out of garbage island, just like in regular sotws

[@sulphurspanic26]

@@AlterReaper thanks for clarifying, I reloaded a previous save because I wasn't able to get the scene after you beat roland.

[@zaravan9613]

I never found that area at 49:10 or so! How do you get to it? God, always feels like I'm missing something or other in SOTWS.

[@AlterReaper]

I showed it in the earlier section, specifically near the end of the brutal orchestra reference

[@sulphurspanic26]

Hey, sorry for bothering you again but when does the Garbage Gull with the watch show up?

[@AlterReaper]

you need to unlock the safe at the black swan first, which requires Georgy in sotws then talk to the guy in the black swan, then there's a chain of people you need to talk to the order goes: the fisherman the guy taking a leak the guy next to the truck after that, go down to the hole below the last guy and the gull should be there

[@gringottssteakhouse5893]

the game updated and added serjio and the kent as recruitable party members. do you plan to make a video on recruiting them?

[@AlterReaper]

not really, I haven't been very interested in making showcase videos like these for a while now maybe if I have too much free time I might make it, but it's unlikely

[@gabrielanvil7331]

how do you save all the party members when they jump off the cliff?

[@AlterReaper]

I already put sections on how to save some of the party members, there's also more clarifications on the reuniting section as long as you don't go out of your way to do the 3rd fold route (it's an opt-in now rather than being forced like in the original sotws) you can save everyone ...except for john spin

[@manhducdinh7606]

Alex in lisa the hopeful, burnt dirt expansion?

[@AlterReaper]

let's not get too ambitious here

[@DryD3s3rt]

Is there any way to use the Exotic Toilet Paper?

[@AlterReaper]

i don't recall it being changed from base sotws, so i think you can just use it on Joel to make him learn Cowboy Stance, which if i recall makes him go faster and deal more damage with his bottles

[@subx353]

Where is the medal of honor?

[@AlterReaper]

beat borislav ragnarok, he's the superboss that requires you to do everything in garbage island and downtown olathe so that roland and arnold drop their respective valves, which you can insert in a hidden area in the place with all the shadowy figures before the mud village

[@ZillyCindah]

for some reason when i fight chriss he dies

[@AlterReaper]

I think you have to purposely let him live while also trying to get him fallen so Elton can knock him down

[@ZillyCindah]

yea i just notived it the fifith time i tryed @@AlterReaper

[@sulphurspanic26]

Where can i find the rando figurine?

[@AlterReaper]

do all of this before you complete larry davis's quest kill sean shawn take his corpse give it to the grandpa at the rando camp, he'll give you the storeroom key go all the way back to the beginning and enter a hole with a red skull mark right above it open the door inside and go to the box all the way to the left grab the items there, most importantly are the rando rations go back to the rando camp and talk to the soldier in the bathtub, he'll ask for your ration in exchange for the figurine

[@sulphurspanic26]

@@AlterReaper thanks!

[@Warlord4Hikage]

I don't actually get it. How to get bad ending with infinity Alex? I must tell him that Garbage island is bad and he must go down the road, then take third fold and that's it? Or something more?

[@AlterReaper]

_before_ you enter the infinity cave after reaching the third fold, you must do the following: recruit every party member, this includes baby fishman, aron richter, saving darry, and telling alex to leave kill all uptown minibosses (Francis, Mikhail, Floyd, Denkins, Davy) have the scummy valve from super Roland trigger the fold cutscenes and collect all of Joel's tactic pages

[@Warlord4Hikage]

@@AlterReaper Okay, thanks

[@Warlord4Hikage]

@@AlterReaper somehow red skull does not appear at dead Rando camp. What is it? And how to get laser for Joel if you have Kent? He will tell snake to attack snake guy. And if i kill snake guy first - i will lose Kent and he will become infinitized. What to do?

[@AlterReaper]

honestly man I have not played this game again since I uploaded this video, which as you can see was all the way back in March might be worth commenting on the game page itself to get your answers, the dev is usually pretty responsive

[@Warlord4Hikage]

@@AlterReaper I don't understand how Elton gets power from Serjio if he wasn't in team. Can you explain a little? And about site - can't actually. GameJolt won't load. Just blank screen on site.

[@johnpilksin]

hey how do you get the rando bobble head for the rando guy i can’t figure it out

[@AlterReaper]

you can watch my video called Special Episode 1 where I covered it, but to summarize: 1. Kill Sean Shawn and give his body to his grandpa, who will give you the key to the storeroom 2. Go to the storeroom all the way back in the beginning, it's a small hole that you need to fall into 3. Interact with the box all the way to the left until you enter a secret stash and grab the Rando Rations 4. Go to the Rando Camp and give a ration to the guy in the bathtub

[@luiscarrillo6039]

Can I ask Wich characters like John will also inevitable die? Because I want to play the mod miself

[@AlterReaper]

if I recall, only John can't avoid dying, assuming you didn't fail to save geen and salt crab too

[@luiscarrillo6039]

​@@AlterReaper i suppose that is because John always wants to die

[@manhducdinh7606]

shingo masters?

[@AlterReaper]

I have no idea who that is

[@manhducdinh7606]

hes a pushover.

[@manhducdinh7606]

..with a basketball.

[@manhducdinh7606]

And he’s wearing a gi.

[@e-zwaters9912]

​​@@manhducdinh7606 I'm guessing he's the guy that got uses a flail in breezy hills or something

[@GensokyoBoySlvt]

Uhh okay so. -Can you shorten the dialog please? The message box only holds so much, and unless the characterization says so, you should probably keep the dialog short and nice. -You did the characters kinda well I guess? But sometimes they blend and just talk the same sometimes. -I disagree with the infinity franchise members becoming party members, but that's just my opinion.

[@AlterReaper]

did you just assume _I_ made the mod? I've never modded a full game in my life, and if I wanted to, it would've never been sotws though criticisms should still be taken, you can go to the gamejolt page in the description and leave this comment for the dev yourself if you want

[@GensokyoBoySlvt]

@@AlterReaper Ok 👍 Sounded like a copypasta tho

[@jackallen99]

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high on that first issue since I don't feel like restructuring my entire writing style when I'm already pretty happy with it, and I feel like characters are allowed to have longer conversations and ramble to themselves (within reason), but I'll see what I can do about some of the oversized text boxes and more samey lines of dialogue. There's probably some fluff I can trim, though, so maybe I'll find something. Just don't expect anything super revolutionary. Don't expect the third thing to ever change though. We've seen enough of the Franchise just being a mindless murder cult already. Just doing "that, but again" without throwing a few twists on things, even if they admittedly would be twists that are a bit self-contradictory, seems a bit boring to me.

[@GensokyoBoySlvt]

@@jackallen99 Okie dokie 👍

[@Melonbd]

He is the real Alter Reaper Specter Meow Meow

[@thatlittlefucker-ks6zc]

Well i did not even check what i was supposed to do to get arnold while going for the 3rd folder ending and now im standing in front of a pedestal like a dumbass so fuck me i guess

[@ckkc16102]

Just to let people know, you don't need to get EVERY event to increase the 'Distrusting Jason Pike' stat, I missed the one in the village and still got the choice to wake up early. Just make sure to save Ham Radar, since like half the stat-increasing dialogue is dependent on him surviving. Fight as little as possible while heading up the mountain to get the medkit, otherwise he'll die before you can get it. If you've fought too much, Berny says something to the effect of "He's probably already dead" when you attempt to buy said medkit from the guru. Also Arnold 2 op pls nerf, twoshot the Superboss with his maxed out punch gob bless

[@theowhite525]

Arnold is both a reference and fairly complicated to obtain.

[@davidn6341]

Loved Brutal Orchestra reference Arnold is one of my favorite fools

[@PinkOrangeOrangePink]

That guy to the left of darry got the garbage island cake.

[@kingjamesbond4009]

What the hell is brutal orquestra I've heard that talked about so many times but never seen anything of it.

[@daltonwatson6820]

Look it up on youtube you will find videos about it

[@LoonyLoona]

1 question, where i can get the family photos?. Because i cannot find it without triggering Bob's fight.

[@AlterReaper]

just make sure you don't go to the black swan, roland's shack, or the rag maggot area too soon go to the right exit of the fermented mystery area (see Joel's section) and get the toilet seat from there, then trade it for the family pictures

[@theirongiantmain]

Wooden chair

[@scriggle3564]

Where do I find gameplay of this

[@bruh1619]

Does Ham have any other moves besides lie down and getting back up?

[@AlterReaper]

he gets stat decreasing moves, one of them can also inflict pissed, which is especially good since you don't need to set it up with off balance or spooked in order to be effective. his later moves are also electric based so he can pair well with salt crab or the baby fishman

[@bruh1619]

Good to know, thank you

[@ZillyCindah]

why does when im saving georgy garbage gull doenst appear

[@ZillyCindah]

and where u found rando bubblehead

[@AlterReaper]

as i said in the intro, things regarding trading were left out of this video, so you can refer to my older videos (which you can easily access by going to the lisa the pointless playlist on my channel), specifically the special episode 1 and equipment guide videos. both videos have timestamps on the description where you can skip to what you need. special episode 1 covers the rando toy, and equipment guide covers the impeccable gold brolex needed for the seagull to appear

[@joanpereira5414]

Where can I find the Rando Figurine? I've been looking everywere.

[@AlterReaper]

do all of this before you complete larry davis's quest kill sean shawn take his corpse give it to the grandpa at the rando camp, he'll give you the storeroom key go all the way back to the beginning and enter a hole with a red skull mark right above it open the door inside and go to the box all the way to the left grab the items there, most importantly are the rando rations go back to the rando camp and talk to the soldier in the bathtub, he'll ask for your ration in exchange for the figurine

[@chocox6491]

kino

[@TM-di5lu]

where do you get the toilet seat?

[@AlterReaper]

same place as the current version of sotws. if you skip to joel's section, it'll be in the area I showed you. not the one where you have to complete Larry's quest first, just in that general area

[@TM-di5lu]

found it and boi. that seat really blends in with the junk