‘Extraordinary’ for Liz Truss and Jacob Rees-Mogg to hail themselves as ‘popular’ Conservatives

[@Banquet...]

The Conservatives losing, with Rees-Mogg and Truss losing their seats was the perfect hat-track for me.

[@christinegivens9048]

✅

[@DneilB007]

With Rees-Mogg, should that not be “the perfect top-hat trick”?

[@rhodarobertson9835]

Could not have happened to better people the two who.are hated the most

[@cybergornstartrooper2157]

If Danny thinks 2010 is worse than today then he is frankly delusional. 1. Debt was just over 1 trillion now pushing 3 trillion 2. Economy was growing, now it is stagnant. 3. NHS had its lowest waiting times now the NHS is in pieces. Add to that falling down schools and prisons and poo in our rivers. But if you think things now are better, sure they are pal, back to bed for you nurse will be along shortly.

[@fordpopular8792]

I remember Labour PFI (Private Finance Initiative) where the Labour Party built Schools, Hospitals, CFE Colleges and the Country is still paying off this debt, bankrupting Schools and Hospitals as it comes out of their budgets

[@auldfouter8661]

Figures last week ( after this video) showed quarterly growth the best for two years - so not stagnant.

[@cybergornstartrooper2157]

@@auldfouter8661 That’s because we have a Labour government now😆 but seriously I don’t think 0.7% counts as real growth.

[@auldfouter8661]

@@cybergornstartrooper2157 Around the world quarterly growth of 0.7 ( 2.8% annualised ) is cogent and def not stagnant.

[@booradley6832]

That growth is still far, far below what it should be. Investor and consumer confidence were shattered. There seems to be a universal deficiency among conservatives in recognizing that government jobs are always a net positive. Someone making 60,000 a year then spends that on housing, groceries, transportation, entertainment, restaurants- the things that move your economy and pay people with private sector jobs to perform services. I have seen it estimated that every pound paid by the government is recycled 7 times on average before becoming frozen in something like a bond or savings account. As long as you can average 14.4% tax this means everything paid to government employees is budget neutral or even creates a surplus. Saving taxes to someone who makes 600k+ a year gets a fair chunk of that out of the economy to sit in investments or offshore accounts so it escapes the tax cycle. But the idea of "muh taxes" seems to preclude them from thinking about anything at all other than being made about it, no matter how illogical

[@hilaryjohnson2386]

Liz Truss' lack of self awareness is staggering.

[@davidg3944]

It's a level of perfection unachievable by those more neurotypical.

[@robertandrews5640]

AH i think SHE is ONLY aware of HERSELF

[@scriptguru4669]

I disagree, I think she seems pretty sentient for a lettuce.

[@mightyone3737]

@@scriptguru4669 She was technically beaten by the lettuce, wasn't she? She's sub-lettuce.

[@fordpopular8792]

Lovely pension though....ex Prime Minister !

[@MrGavinBoyd]

So popular that they lost their seats.🤡💩

[@Cw90118]

They're also all backed by the IEA - the think tank that backed Truss and her mini budget.

[@TheLucanicLord]

Popular among certain people. Mainly themselves.

[@marythorpe928]

I am soo happy that they have bben unseated

[@andrewtoop4764]

@@Cw90118 Their thinking tanked

[@authunhx3129]

If they were popular, they wouldn't be unemployed, they still be MPs.

[@vincentvangogh8092]

They had a broader popularity which didnt necesarily defend their seat, they certainly had their fans he was entertaining to some. I cant see anything to like about Truss though to be honest

[@chrissexporn9182]

We vote for parties, not individual candidates.

[@Nemothewonderfish]

"Remoaner liberal elite establishment rigged the election" Or similar crazy talk.

[@gareth2736]

​@@vincentvangogh8092He was at his best when interviewed by Ali G came across as a likable but a bit weird then. I would be interested to know to what extent he is real and to what extent he is a character he plays - when he was interviewed by Ali G it did seem like two people playing a role not just one.

[@jstewart4205]

The true term is "Popular Conservatism" - It's about policies, not people.

[@alanhowe7659]

Rees-Mogg and Truss are beyond satire. You couldn't make them up.

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

Which is a shame as we could have just thrown the book away.

[@richardhoward7503]

Though Nerine Skinner does a good job with Truss.

[@marcusott2973]

They are an amalgamation of various Monty Python sketches.

[@marcovtjev]

Not entirely. They know they are/will become irrelevant without being in the news regularly, so the group around them makes sure they are in the news. Their audience is not the public but extreme right libertarian donors.

[@richardhoward7503]

@@marcusott2973 Moggy is definitely a contender for Upper Class Twit of the Year.

[@monkeyboy8424]

As popular as a portable toilet on the last day of a hot Bank Holiday weekend.

[@Jessjoe1956]

Hard to put into words the ridiculousness of these people.

[@tonyduncan9852]

See above.

[@fusionfan6883]

The lack of self awareness of these pompous chancer narcissists is both staggering and depressingly predictable 😵‍💫

[@portcullis5622]

@@fusionfan6883 I learned from having a horrible narcissistic boss, that these type of people usually have no self-awareness whatsoever, but genuinely believe that they are very self-aware!

[@fusionfan6883]

@@portcullis5622 I was a whistle blower against such a boss who bullied our team for 5 years.

[@Kj16V]

"Whatever happened to the Popular Conservative Front?" "She's over there."

[@dub604]

Popular? Even their own families can't stand them. 😂

[@adblocker276]

I have a feeling their parents are probably much worse people.

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

@@adblocker276 Well Stanley Patrick Johnson springs to mind.

[@walter3433]

Jacob's nanny speaks very highly of him

[@apollonia-ava]

@@adblocker276William Rees Mogg ??

[@robertandrews5640]

NOT quite CERTAIN ABOUT that I THINK that JACOB REES MOGG WILL HAVE no ISSUES from his family.

[@Setinmywaysalways]

Their Arrogance was & is Astounding.

[@davidg3944]

Perhaps we should stop rewarding sociopaths by putting them in positions of power? These destructive people should be kept WELL AWAY (yes, I am yelling!) from government! Have we learned nothing from thousands of years of damage from such folks?

[@fainitesbarley2245]

Apparently not. We keep electing them.

[@robinsanders5541]

I watched some of the footage of Pop Con and saw a lot of people that were totally out of step with the real world and blaming “gaffes” rather than the terrible governance over the last 8-14 years. It’s rather entertaining to watch people not realizing that they’re the problem regardless of the obvious information in-front of them.

[@patchso]

They’re not a feature, they’re a bug.

[@matthewcook9404]

The sweet, sweet smell of delusion. 😂😂

[@davidg3944]

Smells something like a rotting corpse, I'd imagine...

[@MattBooth]

The problem is that George Osborne had no economic experience and he is just a liar. There was no emergency in 2010. Alistair Darling's economic plan had us in recovery, budget surplus, by 2015 and we were on track for that in 2010 by the election. Osborne implemented additional, further, cuts that were not necessary and choked growth and stability. Rachel Reeves has buckets of economic experience.

[@harrybrownrigg9057]

Is that why labour left a note for the incoming Tory government saying "there's no money left"? This actually happened by the way.

[@MattBooth]

@@harrybrownrigg9057 the running joke note that previous outgoing ministers used to leave for each other? Are you still swallowing that Tory load?

[@michaelrowsell1160]

Two years of austerity was needed .As Germany does this every ten tears . But continuous austerity is madness . The Labour government had thrown money at the public sector ,stolen from the private sector .

[@hiraldosternflyer7112]

@@harrybrownrigg9057 You really need to give your head a wobble, mate.

[@harrybrownrigg9057]

@@hiraldosternflyer7112 How to say something without saying anything at all 🙄

[@1943colin]

'‘Extraordinary’ for Liz Truss and Jacob Rees-Mogg to hail themselves as ‘popular’ Conservatives'. It's foolish to try to account for what nutters think.

[@timbrown4576]

If Liz Truss is 'popular' I'm a banana

[@Dbdbe1]

Surely a lettuce…

[@garyjohnson9459]

Beep Beep I’m a jeep

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

A Romaine Banana ?

[@davidg3944]

I find this comment quite a-pealing.

[@tonyduncan9852]

You are perfectly safe.

[@norcatch]

Jacob wouldn't be a man of the people if the people was factory owners in the 1780s.

[@martinradcliffe4798]

Truss in particular, is ripe for some sort of medical intervention,

[@spookyt8692]

*experimentation

[@marcusott2973]

And Reese Mogg for a historical intervention...

[@samhartford8677]

She probably already had a lobotomy.

[@willc1294]

The lobotomy obviously was a failure...

[@philipcollins218]

Finally the family can do a long awaited intervention. There are many mental health facilities that can deal with her insanity- with the correct treatment returning to reality within a year. I wish her best in her journey sanity. 回

[@tombowen6430]

They’re about as popular as two rattlesnakes in a lucky dip.

[@clarencegreen6341]

I wish Suella Bravaman lost her seat so the Tory evolve.

[@Auriflamme]

Liz Truss needs to learn the difference between popular and populist. And then she needs to learn what populism actually entails.

[@anthonykelly1649]

Indeed, much like people putting flags in their profiles.

[@zeddy_me]

Liz Truss in America, bantering with Steve Bannon and Nigel Farage was a truly pathetic sight.

[@willc1294]

Pity the mad cow doesn't get locked up like Bannon the Hutt. Although it's really a mental institution loonie lizzie belongs in

[@Kevin-lf4xx]

The highlight of the election was Mogg getting the boot.

[@brianferguson7840]

Get out of bed earlier each morning so we can all gloat about "Our Overwhelming Labour Victory" for longer every day !😋😋😍

[@bombheadgames9565]

So the horror movie we all just lived through has a sequel... return of the lettuce.

[@richardhoward7503]

Nah, she's just cos-playing.

[@joelogjam9163]

Pork Markets 2 - Squeal, piggy, squeal!

[@michaelmouse4024]

A Popular Conservative. That's like saying a Popular Tumour or an Intelligent Reform Voter. Ps - I'm getting grief for idiosyncratic spelling - the point is "contradiction in terms": eg 'brexit benefits' or 'Johnson promises'

[@Nick-X]

Why have you capitalized popular, tumour and voter? 😐🧐

[@Trippeak]

​@Nick-X because he's far more intelligent than the rest of us knuckle draggers apparently.

[@garyjohnson9459]

A popular Conservative. That is like saying a popular tumour or an intelligent Reform voter. Ok now

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

@@Nick-X Are you a bit thick?

[@robinsanders5541]

“An extreme LibDem”

[@Tunjij]

You don't need mind altering drugs to listen to drill. As a matter of fact, mind altering drugs are not part of drill culture. Off to watch something less condescending. Still Disappointed...

[@ChaiChai-u3u]

The real pressing question is how is Jacob Reese Moggs nanny coping?

[@hypsyzygy506]

Nanny always copes.

[@localshaman]

Once again i'd love to know what we're meant to worry about when it comes to "The extreme left"

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

It means they won't get any of our money if they have decent politicians in power.

[@GorgeDawes]

It’s never defined and that is entirely deliberate.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Extremely compassionate and extremely sensible. The despised wokerati of course!

[@Divedown_25]

Liz Truss, Suella Bravermans and Jacob Rees-Moog are so out of reality.... Geez...

[@jpgpearson]

democracy came from the greeks....and how they paid for things was constantly finding the richest person and making them pay.

[@georgesdelatour]

The Athenians had slaves

[@jpgpearson]

@@georgesdelatour yes you got to understand what democracy is….it’s a sociopathic reaction to psychopaths…..there is only one correct way of thinking caring and sharing, so why would you let people vote and you need to get rid of money, as we have new methods of communication.

[@markherzog9484]

Put Farage on the Agriculture and Fisheries Select Committee…..interesting discussions abound

[@mjja00]

Perhaps Truss could get a job as Mogg's nanny.

[@donaldanderson6604]

How about the Popular Peoples' Front.

[@davidg3944]

Splitters!

[@neilbarnes7537]

Surely the real question is this: what is being done to address the undiagnosed mental health problems of the 11,217 people who continued to vote for Truss?

[@maxharbig1167]

These people have absolutely no sense of the ridiculous or ludicrous but those are probably the only things that save them from despising themselves and their behaviour.

[@whowherewhatwhywen]

It's so ridiculous that they consider Stahmer as far left

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

He's as far left as the markings down the middle of the road.

[@pauln6803]

They don't. It's just red meat for the Tory crowd and hoping it will scare the less politically aware. “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

[@alansharman3644]

Labour should go after all the fraud perpetrated by the tories and get back the money that was stolen from the public purse. Just as vigorously as the tories pursued the people claiming benefits. That would help to cut taxes or go towards the nhs where it should have been spent.

[@mamaduck9370]

"tory brainbox" is a contradiction of terms.

[@mrphgil974]

11:18 the graft and corruption under the previous government was unparalleled. I’d hope they focus on that crime and cronyism rather than simple inefficiency

[@patchso]

If only there had recently been a good time to reveal the secret of how to make the Conservatives popular ;-)

[@wendymoney2043]

Karma…aaaahhh!

[@gailforce]

Jacob is so popular that wherever he goes he needs his nanny to look after him

[@andyastrand]

Maybe they meant populist… Although they are clearly unpopular populists.

[@markjohnston7869]

Well them losing their seats was certainly popular.

[@2002RM]

Don't comment on things you don't know about. That's not drill.

[@justinneill5003]

Popular with who exactly? Each other?

[@Jeanette47]

Calling new Labour MPs *Starmtroopers* made me spit coffee down my t shirt 😂

[@davidmanning7912]

Yes, we'll hear that a few times in the coming years

[@proteusnz99]

“Pop” as in a burst balloon?

[@jamesjarrett52]

Drill..that wasn t drill!!😅

[@petefl1818]

When you look at these deluded people it's quite obvious why countries in the dire state it's in as they were in important government positions making important decisions for years.

[@rayjennings3637]

I've seen many mics with logos on put in front of interviewees but this is the first time I've seen the mics become the stars of the show!

[@JAMAICADOCK]

The Tories have squandered vast amounts of public money on medicals for the disabled, back-to-work programs, universal credit, etc etc. They also pumped vast amounts of money into education reforms. None of which had much success. Moreover, if Labour start building council houses at cheaper rents than private landlords, it might shave billions off housing benefit. Plus if Labour is successful in taxing the energy companies that will free up billions currently being spent on rebates for extortionate gas bills, thus freeing up money to be spent somewhere else. The idea that the Tory Party are the frugal party is a total misnomer. On their own pet projects they have been spendthrifts,

[@mauromatos3124]

Thought we were rid of these two for a while. Guess we still can't have nice things.

[@lookoutleo]

Think deluded is the right thing to say about ms truss and mogg

[@sandrapowell-m7z]

Can`t wait for ian hislops` response!

[@georgesdelatour]

I expect Hislop will continue running Private Eye as if the Conservatives are still the government of the country. He has a more anachronistic, 1950s idea of where power actually lies in Britain than Richard Ingrams had. Re-calibrating his priors to be able to satirise the people who have real power in 2024 is probably beyond him.

[@user-ii6rb8zk3i]

Tories have lost the feel good factor they in shock .how dare they do that to us how the mighty have fallen.

[@PaulSinghSelhi-VFX-TUTORIALS]

Mandelson back in power..WOE WOE AND THRICE WOE !!

[@Rael_486]

Are Mogg and Truss saying it was all just performance art? 😮

[@kennethhodges3187]

Inflated Ego''s have blinded them to the truth!

[@CurtOntheRadio]

Boris Johnson's coalition was a mad one that could never survive - what has Merthyr got to do with Godalming? And why would Surrey suddenly pay for Newcastle to 'Level up'? Great to see that charade fall apart and dissolve into recrimination. Unite the right? On what? There has to be a significant risk of disintegration. Excellent! :D

[@beijingpete]

"Carry On Conservatives"

[@barneyrubble1964]

Their are a number of Conservatives who have left the party because of its anti-immigrant stance as well as its BREXIT stance which seems to be the hardest BREXIT it could get away with. Those need to be brought back into the fold which means a move much more towards to centre. Its policies which split families up (because one was born on the wrong side of a border), the way that it wanted to ignore the law, which is the exact opposite of what the Conservatives used to describe itself. Chasing after the Reform/UKIP vote is precisely the opposite of what it should do and it needs to return to being the broad church it was which led to it leading this country more than any other in the post WWII years.

[@NormanTreiger]

The newly elected government has started in an energetic matter consulting regions & countries in the United Kingdom, consulting with European countries on a new post brexit arrangement. A new arrangement with Europe is essential if we wish to see a growing economy . More cooperation would mean less red tape for businesses dealing with Europe, more joint investment shared with EU and UK . The route is closer alignment but just short of being in the Single Market or Customs Union in respect of the Referendum result. Instead of freedom of movement, I recommend 'Priority Boarding ' budget airline style where we allow EU citizens priority for migration to people outside the EU.

[@Frederick-in2rz]

This is why Trump wants to do away with silly things like elections

[@Destide]

There's a reason the thick of it hasn't had a new season. The times is included in this you so enabled them

[@SimonParker-hv6uu]

Not Popcon,. NatCon. You laugh at them, but that is what totalitarian regimes do. "Let us step up the building of a prosperous country by applying..............patriotism". is a North Korean slogan. Everyone laughs sat these people until they get the power that they need to do what they want.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

British satire comedy at its best.

[@petermoate5412]

From an Australian’s point of view, this os delusional and funny !!!

[@jonm7272]

Yeh, because Australia has literally zero political issues, just ask the indigenous people.

[@talideon]

​@@jonm7272 Every country has its issues. However, the UK has looked particularly clownish for some time now.

[@jonm7272]

@@talideon this is absolutely true, luckily we did something about that in our general election last week. I was particularly responding to the "As an Australian..." in the OP's comment. As if this suggests some kind of political superiority.

[@seanpatrick1243]

The idea that business people are savants of efficiency is absolute bunk. They are experts in marketing, manipulation and hiding their inefficiencies from shareholders.

[@Neilh-yh4oi]

JRM the most reprehensible individual in British politics. He is even streets in front of George Galloway. And that's saying something. JRM and Arron Banks (Nigel Farage's financier) Arguably, the two largest financial beneficiary's of brexit. Beggars belief.

[@giffgaffnettwork5626]

Rees-Mogg, appearing on BBC Newsnight last night (Wednesday) talking about, "Association Football" and comparing himself to "Uncle Fester, with a light bulb in my mouth" while also revealing his Discovery channel, fly on the wall documentary, starring him, wife and 6 children, warts and all series is pantomime stuff. That paired with his own view, that nobody wants to hear from Conservatives right now, it seems extraordinary that he has said he will be competing with the Kardashians for airtime, because his forlorn view, post election, is that deposed politicians have to be seen, to get elected. The celebrity jungle certainly worked for Nigel Farage, who undoubtedly needed the money, not something Jacob seems to have to worry about.Yet he remains a staunch Braverman supporter. This is a man of many distorted thoughts who is on the verge of his male menopause! Shut the door on your exit Jacob, its the dawn of a new era.

[@SubnetMask]

Watching these people try to understand Drill was excruciating

[@jananders1351]

Even Monty Python would have trouble making the Mogg and Truss show appear more ridiculous than it already is. This is grossly unfair to both political pundits and comedians.

[@EamonCoyle]

Maybe the "pop" is with reference to how they exploded the party from within !!

[@holz5081]

...by asking Mister Finkelstein...

[@crayontom9687]

You enabled these people. You did that

[@applepie8772]

So what you are actually saying people and the Tory party do not put the country first. Then you wonder why they lost !!

[@samturner8028]

Mandelson saying 'Drill?' with complete bewilderment is absolutely iconic. One can see the cogs turning trying to think of all the definitions of the word drill and how it related to that piece of audio 😂

[@heliotropezzz333]

Populist more like, not popular.

[@pj1471]

So Gavin Williamson was at UnPopCon as well. I hope this is the last time I hear his name during this government.

[@michaelkemp6857]

Section the Truss!!

[@davidg3944]

This truss is missing its rivets!

[@countycod123]

No doubt they were popular Dinosaurs we're popular before they were wiped out Starmergeddon❤

[@Glasgow_kiss]

dinosaurs were popular with whom?

[@countycod123]

@Glasgow_kiss there was alot of them and they were successful. End of. Looking at the Tory front bench today. It was full of Dinosaurs past psst and past . It was a scene from the Dawn of The Dead 🤣🤣🤣

[@gareth2736]

​@@Glasgow_kissI like dinosaurs

[@Glasgow_kiss]

@@countycod123 who were they popular with? who was cheering them on?. i dont think the words you use mean what you think they do.

[@countycod123]

@@Glasgow_kiss The Tories are extinct

[@garynorcott6409]

Must admit, the more I listen to Mr Finkelstein the more I like him - even though he's a Conservative!

[@philipcollins218]

Finally the family can do a long awaited intervention for Liz truss . There are many mental health facilities that can deal with her insanity- with the right asylum and correct treatment - returning to a basic functioning reality within a year. I wish her best in her mental health journey back to reality. 回

[@robc7162]

Its time we made shame popular again. Rees-Mogg & Truss would be high on the list.

[@willc1294]

You know you're in deep doodoo when the chancellor compares your fiscal situation to Ireland

[@lucyfrye6723]

Truss can now retire to her coven in the forest and focus on making gout potions for the villagers, speaking with the animals and making ointments in her cauldron. It's nature and there will be more balance in the Force.

[@tolhumexy6706]

How can MPs be 'bored'? Go and work in your constituency.

[@reverendjames9842]

Leave them to their delusions and the real world can then move on and forget they ever existed.

[@seanpatrick1243]

I love listening to a group of completely out of touch people telling us what government MUST do to serve the people.

[@Peter-g1k]

Our education failed me. I obviou Sly thougjt that I Knew the meaning of popular.

[@TrevorBarre]

eeer...banking crisis of 2008? Finke;stein is SOOO disingenuous.

[@bakedbean37]

No more so than Sterm-trooper Mandy and his brazen and constant undermining of Corbyn whilst going on about loyalty to the elected leader of the party.

[@jamesbottomley2596]

Debt as a % of GDP in 2010 was 75%, today it's 85%, so Finkelstein is wrong when he says that Labour have just inherited a better fiscal situation that Cameron/Osborne did.

[@Arltratlo]

they are so popular....if they leave to county, nobody would noticed it!

[@Trippeak]

Truss is unpopular. But Jacob Rees Mogg is definitely a rather popular figure on the right. The fact that he lost his seat comes down to the Tory parties unpopularity coupled with the fact that it has always been a marginal between Labour and Conservative.

[@PeloquinDavid]

It's maybe because I hail from a country (Canada) that has rather more geography than Britain does, but I have NEVER understood how building homes for young families and badly needed immigrants became a political PROBLEM in the UK - and for your Tories in particular. Our Tories here (I'm one of them) are very much champions of homebuilding - home owners are natural Tories, after all - so much so that elected Tories at the provincial level are regularly criticised as being in the pockets of the residential construction sector... It looks to me like Labour there are positioning themselves as the party of and for the property owning middle classes - i.e. where the large majority of voters are in any wealthy country.

[@freebornjohn2687]

The new homes will be built where a lot of Tories live and they don't want them there.

[@bakedbean37]

@@freebornjohn2687 And those that do get built they'll want to snap up for buy to let investments as their personal little nest eggs. Stuff the rest of us.

[@PeloquinDavid]

@@freebornjohn2687 That many such houses (especially medium-density housing near transport hubs outside urban cores and single-family housing in suburban areas beyond greenbelts) would be built in areas where Tories live - and typically tend to elect Tory MPs - is just as true in Canada as in the UK. Yet bringing more people into an area tends to drive up property values - not something your average property-owning Tory (or non-Tory, for that matter) in THIS country minds one bit! So what on earth is up with UK property owners (Tory or otherwise)???

[@NicEvans20]

Shouldn't this now be called 'How to Lose an Election'?