LIT-UP! NYC Subway BMT/IND 1960s End Route Rollsign (Destination Window Sign)

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@wmbrown6 4 ай бұрын

Also, a shame the TA didn't do something similar with the IRT routes (with accompanying colors for 1 [orange], 2 [red], 3 [turquoise], 4 [magenta], 5 [black], 6 [yellow], 7 [orange], 8 [turquoise], SS [green] and S).

@mtattrain2 6 ай бұрын

Curious what else you can put in those GOH end sign boxes lol

@smallflame85 6 ай бұрын

Any sign that is 19 inches on the short dimension, so there's at least the B Div SMEE end destination roll, right?

@wmbrown6 4 ай бұрын

Who made that sign, Trans-Lite? (Apparently, yes.) I know Transign used their own fonts for their roll signs in this vein.

@robertko5425 4 ай бұрын

Transign of Pontiac Michigan printed the MAJORITY of these 1969 colored coded signs used on the destination sign boxes of the R16's, R32's and R38's and a handful of R27/30's as well. Translite of Milford Connecticut did some as well. However, many replacement signs from 1977 onwards were printed by American Identification Products in Brooklyn NY, which replaced many, many R40, R42, and R44 side and front signs. Teleweld did some of those R40 thru R46 side signs without strip maps at all, and Markal of Canada printed some as well. The old cloth signs were mainly done by Hunter Illuminated Car Sign of Flushing NY before 1964 as well. They went out of business in 1964 as well.

@wmbrown6 4 ай бұрын

@@robertko5425 - This would have been one of Trans-Lite's, struck on or about July 1, 1969. Transign's - and I'd know their work like the back of my hand - were struck in April of '69. Also struck in this period were side signs meant for the R-10 class that were never actually used on those cars. One wonders if they did signs in this vein for the IRT with the numbered routes that were likewise never used.

@robertko5425 4 ай бұрын

@@wmbrown6 My friend gave me two of the above multi-colored front route signs with the white circles around the route letters, and are identical to the one shown by you, and were printed by Translite of Milford Connecticut, and one by Transign of Pontiac Michigan. He passed away back in 2019 as well. Those R10 signs you were describing were done in-house at their Coney Island or Bergen Street sign shops, as well as the GOH Green painted R10's from 1984-1989. The IRT never received any new mylar signs until 1978 when American Identification Products produced these multi-colored front and side signs with their former 1967 colors and were mostly replaced during GOH with the later AIP & Teleweld colored signs as well. Some black and white all caps IRT mylar signs were produced by their Coney Island Shops to replace signs that were VANDALIZED or STOLEN by their CUSTOMERS before 1978. The vandals would KICK the glass inwards on the inside of the cars thus destroying the linen curtains in the process. Then you wonder why during GOH they removed the three separate rubber gasket mounted sign glasses, and place a sheet of LEXAN on the back of the sign box cover, and rivet it or screwed them on instead of the nicer looking rubber mounted ones.

@XTTX231 6 ай бұрын

How you get that come from

@XTTX231 6 ай бұрын

What is the r number

@smallflame85 6 ай бұрын

The roll itself was used on the SMEE cars of the B Division, so R-16, R-27, R-30, R-32, and R-38. The box was used on the R-40, R-42, R-44, and R-46 fleets. I combined the two because the sizes matched.