Literal or Figurative?: The Last Days According to Jesus with R.C. Sproul

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Jesus’ prophecy of His return includes both literal predictions and apocalyptic language. In this message, R.C. Sproul helps us interpret this difficult text.
This is the 4th in a series of messages by Dr. Sproul on the last days. See other videos in the series: • The Last Days Accordin...

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@charliescott9098
@charliescott9098 3 жыл бұрын
Love RC teaching- so needed in our culture today.
@boliverallmon
@boliverallmon Жыл бұрын
I am so grateful for his ministries. I wish I was able to shake his hand before he went to eternity. I guess I just have to wait
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 4 ай бұрын
Amen!
@JaviLpz116
@JaviLpz116 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to God for R.C Sproul, because of these episodes and the book of Sam Storms “Kindome come, amilenial alternative” I am not longer dispensationalist.
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee 3 жыл бұрын
you are a wise person. Keep it up by praying that Jesus will give you wisdom, understanding and truth. For if no,t satan will brain-wash your brain; faster than the guy behind you blows his horn; when the light changes from red to green.
@felicityzeeman9212
@felicityzeeman9212 2 жыл бұрын
And, like me, you actually find things make more sense than what it used to.
@eddiejanekjr6381
@eddiejanekjr6381 9 ай бұрын
He did include the third option for both at 4:50 into the video. 🙏🏼❤️✝️🇮🇱
@lou_-mg7mb
@lou_-mg7mb Ай бұрын
Amen. Dispensationalism is a heresy, recently invented, never believed by any group of Christians in history before.
@timclark2925
@timclark2925 Жыл бұрын
RC definitely a great teacher....
@sheldonbass4238
@sheldonbass4238 4 жыл бұрын
While I'm convinced our faith is to be well reasoned, I get a bit nervous when our interpretations are forced to be harmonized using what could possibly be construed as intellectual calisthenics. Yet, scripture is meant to be studied and understood. For most difficult passages, the Spirit has always helped my understanding of truth. I was taught so many things that were wrong in the past, but when I finally heard the truth of them, it was confirmed, both within, and elsewhere in God's word. Honestly, I'm sort of waiting for that bell of clarity to go off saying, "Yes, this is truth," concerning these prophesies. Praying while studying. Thumbs up.
@nostringsonme7588
@nostringsonme7588 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Glory to God, for He who has started a good work will never leave nor forsake us. 🙏 Keep praying and hoping always putting on the armor of God, studying to show your self approved..
@PhilGeissler
@PhilGeissler 4 жыл бұрын
We're in the same boat.
@PhilGeissler
@PhilGeissler 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way.
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 4 жыл бұрын
It was the "last days" of an old covenant 2000 years ago. In 70ad Jesus prophecy in Matthew 24 was fulfilled. Hebrews 9:8 tells this also.
@kikstartmyx3
@kikstartmyx3 2 жыл бұрын
This was me two years ago, as I read my Bible for the first time without any “theological persuasion glasses” on and I came to the belief that my pre-mill dispensational view id been taught made zero sense contextually. It was upon reading RC’s book summarized here that I felt like the scales fell off my eyes finally and through further study, I’m even more persuaded.
@komradewirelesscaller6716
@komradewirelesscaller6716 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Sproul's teaching on these subjects!!
@jmarsian4017
@jmarsian4017 2 жыл бұрын
As one of the weak and foolish that Jesus mentioned ; It is written ; " Do not argue about things you cannot understand " . Jesus Is Lord and we are to try to win Souls .
@chrisstrobel3439
@chrisstrobel3439 2 жыл бұрын
It is also written in 2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” God Bless your study time J 🙏
@mrsgunshow3790
@mrsgunshow3790 2 жыл бұрын
If you have heard the heresy of full preterism and how it has made people leave the faith, you would understand why this is important brother. We must be deep rooted in our beliefs so that we can bring the astray back into God’s light through the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
@crazyhorseaz5224
@crazyhorseaz5224 4 жыл бұрын
RC IS STILL GETTING CROWNS 👑
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 4 жыл бұрын
If so they get tossed at the feet of Jesus.
@lavieenrose5954
@lavieenrose5954 3 жыл бұрын
@@sumthinfresh Of course they are ♥️
@lou_-mg7mb
@lou_-mg7mb Ай бұрын
Careful friend. I am blessed by how God used RC. But what you said is not a theologically accurate statement. RC would not have approved of it. Glory goes to Christ. Not to man.
@christvictoriouskingdomnow2473
@christvictoriouskingdomnow2473 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, we advertise this series on our playlist. God-bless!
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 4 жыл бұрын
It was the last days of the old covenant when the physical temple was destroyed in 70ad just like Jesus said it would be. Hebrews 9:8.
@dmeek20
@dmeek20 3 жыл бұрын
Amen! Spot on
@Emrio3
@Emrio3 3 жыл бұрын
God should be feared he God God knew the antichrist will come which is God God is of no denomination
@chromebull884
@chromebull884 Жыл бұрын
He says this in the previous video
@michaelhayman2549
@michaelhayman2549 Жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, I believe the Old Covenant became redundant at the moment our Saviour said “it is finished” as He expired on the cross and the vail separating the Holy of Holies from the Holy Place was torn in two, thus allowing all access to the throne of God through imparted righteousness of Jesus. It was just time until Jesus prophecy about the Temple was fulfilled. I don’t believe there was anything other than that, which happened at the hands of the Arabs in Legion X. The Roman historian Tacitus tells us this. Great series by a master commentator.
@janetwebb1507
@janetwebb1507 9 ай бұрын
A Method of SOLVING All Points
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
Yehovah has it HIS Way wether we like it or Not. HE speaks in parables so the unborn can’t get it The intents of each heart will be clearly seen As Hebrews says some people’s sins are obvious but others sin will follow or catch them up! In The end we will all reap what we have sown. Lord have Mercy ✝️ Is The the start….🕊🙏🏽🙏🏿🙏🏻
@wayneosaur
@wayneosaur Жыл бұрын
RC misses the option that when God is the author an event can be (and I believe often is) *both* literal and figurative. For example, the events of the Exodus can be read as history, but they were so orchestrated by God that they foreshadow the life and mission of Christ. That is why the Gospels follow the Exodus pattern.
@markdonnaabbott3977
@markdonnaabbott3977 7 ай бұрын
He did about 4.5 mins in
@mrsrgross2192
@mrsrgross2192 6 ай бұрын
He literally ended the video with the option you claimed he “missed.” It would help if you watched the video all the way through before commenting.
@wayneosaur
@wayneosaur 6 ай бұрын
@@mrsrgross2192 watched again. Maybe I am missing it. Is there a passage that he considers to have *both* a literal and figurative meaning?
@lou_-mg7mb
@lou_-mg7mb Ай бұрын
No friend, he didn’t miss it at all. Keep studying.
@flamingrobin5957
@flamingrobin5957 4 жыл бұрын
jesus cursed the fig tree when the Israelite rejected him. "you will not see me again until you learn to cry blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord"
@Nobo35
@Nobo35 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Mathew 21:19
@1australianbeacon
@1australianbeacon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nobo35 hard to believe in that verse theses day hay..... Math 21.43.... Zionism = synagogue of satan. Jeus died for the CHURCH. The Holy Spirit said many antichrist not ant1sem1t1c ... trump surrounded him with theses and now biden even more we R taught to PRAY for THOSE in authority not vote for them, some trust in horse some in politics Just trust the Lord Jesus... Christ.
@brucedressel8873
@brucedressel8873 2 жыл бұрын
Liberty Fellowship with pastor Chuck Baldwin has an awesome video on the destruction of Jerusalem.
@russelljones2305
@russelljones2305 Жыл бұрын
The failure of Augustinian/ Gnostic spiritualising of the text is that it is not based on God’s language of Hebrew that has Gods signature and calendar time table. The millennium week is set in Sabbatical and jubilee cycles of time, it is theological suicidal to use an outside pagan system that is out of sink with God’s restoration plan according to the whole council of God’s Word. Augustinian eschatological views leave out the Jewishness of God’s restoration plan. Paul says to Gentile Christians: Romans 11:18 ESV [18] do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.
@eliphasphiri4090
@eliphasphiri4090 2 жыл бұрын
Hyper literalism has produced full preteritism and hyper figurativesm has produced dispensationalism with its end time tribulation, end time Antichrist etc, the best interpretation lies between the two and not the help of the holy spirit
@eliphasphiri4090
@eliphasphiri4090 9 ай бұрын
The astronomical disasters are literall, but they will happen at Jesus' second coming ❤
@flamingrobin5957
@flamingrobin5957 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew 21:18-22 (NIV): Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.
@doug2993
@doug2993 4 жыл бұрын
Ted, this is a great set of verses. They are quite applicable to where we are now. May I ask why you posted those?
@brucedressel8873
@brucedressel8873 2 жыл бұрын
NIV Non Inspired per Version.Why do you use a corrupt Alexandrian bible per version ?
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 Жыл бұрын
@@brucedressel8873 NASB is the most accurate translation.
@chrisphillips4021
@chrisphillips4021 11 ай бұрын
The fig tree that bore no fruit and was cursed is the old covenant system. It will never bear fruit again because. It was destroyed never to be built or remembered again. Hallelujah
@TheDailywithCharlotteZ
@TheDailywithCharlotteZ 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that these things will all happen in the future, but on a grander scale? I thought by asking a question I could avoid a disagreement.Something to consider.❤️
@bert7548
@bert7548 Жыл бұрын
Yes there are preachers that do preach that, Bill Randals, Jacob Prasch among them, also I think Arnold Fruchtenbaum , hope I spelt them right, Anyway we should all be entitled to ask a question.
@Yamchas-corpse
@Yamchas-corpse 5 ай бұрын
Can it happen again after it happens again in the future? What about another time after that?
@Fit4faith2024
@Fit4faith2024 11 ай бұрын
The End was the beginning
@0ZeroTheHero
@0ZeroTheHero 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to say that the return in Christ in His Glory, as it is written, is figurative? In a sense, that is incredibly ironic since it tries to diminish that very same "glory"and tries to portray it as something else. At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants.
@gerilynn9002
@gerilynn9002 3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that when the people were dispersed from babel they were divided into 70 nations. The father chose to establish a nation of people for himself from Abraham. Jesus before his crucifixion sent out 70 disciples to the nations. So it might seem that he had not forever turn his back on the ones from Babel but possibly in that generation was when he chose to send them word of the gospel and bring that flock back in so to speak. So in that time frame the Spirit with and moving these disciples that they did accomplish what Jesus sent them to do.
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs 5 ай бұрын
In context, it's clear that the nations are the nations of Israel. The disciples were literally hated (see Matt 24:9) by all the nations of Israel. The entire book of Acts attests to this. The Great Commission to all nations comes in Matt 28 because the context is all of Heaven and Earth.
@LR-yu3mx
@LR-yu3mx 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@harrypowers9412
@harrypowers9412 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating study. . . .
@barrygaynor1025
@barrygaynor1025 3 жыл бұрын
Figurative doesn't mean it's not true. In fact it drives the truth home by appealing to the heart, as well as the mind.
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, amen and AMEN! Jesus used it through all his time on earth. So did many others. It is a golden tool when trying to communicate with others.
@lawrencestanley8989
@lawrencestanley8989 5 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem that I see... Jesus said that no one knows the day nor the hour that He would return, then the Preterists come along and say "well we know exactly when Jesus came back, it was 70AD." I believe Jesus rather than the Preterists.
@pyllytaskussa
@pyllytaskussa 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is, Jesus spoke about both cases. Mark 13:30 tells us that "these things" will happen within the generation. But 2 verses later He says considering "that day", nobody knows the time. The apostles asked two questions and Jesus answered to 2. Both cannot hold true of one event - if they knew or we know that something happens within a certain timeframe - we wouldn't "not know" the day or the hour. So you don't need to choose one!
@lawrencestanley8989
@lawrencestanley8989 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyllytaskussa Well, if Matthew 24 and Mark 13 were to have their fulfillment in 70AD, how is it that the Didache (written between 70-100AD according to gotquestions.org) treated the fulfillment of Matthew 24 as a yet future event?
@pyllytaskussa
@pyllytaskussa 5 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencestanley8989 Honestly I don't know. Possibly when the apostles were asking about the destruction of the temple, they assumed it would mean the end of history as well. In that case their question in Matthew 24:3 was meant to ask one date, but Jesus gave two dates instead: the destruction of the temple and the end of the Jewish age within the generation and his final coming "that day" at some unknown time. It is also possible that the Didache was written prior 70AD (for example, carm.org approximates 65-80AD). In any case, I'll rather trust the Bible than the Didache.
@pyllytaskussa
@pyllytaskussa 5 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencestanley8989 Also a point regarding your original comment: in the next lecture "This Generation" Sproul talks about it and suggests it meant that all of his prophesy will happen within the generation listening, but nobody knows the exact day or hour.
@lawrencestanley8989
@lawrencestanley8989 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyllytaskussa Yes, but Jesus refers to Daniel 9:24 and following in Matthew 24, so we know that these two prophecies are linked. Since we know that Daniel's clock started ticking with the decree of Artaxerxes in 458BC, and that the fulfillment of the entire prophecy would be 490 years later, if we do our math correctly, and if the preterist assumes that those years are sequential, that would place the fulfillment of Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy in 39AD... But nothing happened in 39AD...
@thomasspringer5738
@thomasspringer5738 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the generations are two in the spiritual realm of creation divided by the waters or more precisely the deluge or flood !
@barrygaynor1025
@barrygaynor1025 3 жыл бұрын
The early Christians at Antioch interpreted the Scriptures literally, while the Christians a Alexandria interpreted them figuratively or allegoricaly.
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee 3 жыл бұрын
All bibles have literal AND figurative words. Oh indeed. Figurative is a golden tool when communicating with others; who can't understand.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
Antioch Gentiles Alexandria Israelites So Figuratively!
@gerilynn9002
@gerilynn9002 3 жыл бұрын
The sign of the stars falling from heaven would probably be what was literally seen. Matt 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days... the stars will fall from heaven". My understanding is that the final blows to Jerusalem happen late August first part of September. Presently, I can't say for certain if 2000 years ago whether this event was as regular as it is now but... Through August and again in October there are meteor showers that would be seen by those living in the northern hemisphere. Seeing this the people of that time would not know to call them meteors but would have described them as star falling from heaven. Be it this event... then prophesy fulfilled.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
The Jewish leadership ~ 🌟 ✨ ⭐️ stars
@MathewSimon119
@MathewSimon119 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24 begins with the question of the destruction of Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple. The previous chapter in Matthew 23 was the pronouncement of judgment on the Pharisees within their generation. Therefore Matthew 24 was fulfilled as the judgment of Israel and her 12 tribes. That was not however the final coming of Jesus to judge all gentile nations in the future at the end of the world. This is why we see Revelation 17-19 describes the judgment of Jerusalem in AD70 but Revelation 20 has a long gap of time until the end when all gentile nations will be judged. The gospel went first to the Jew and then to the Gentile...in the end, the full remnant of Israel will be saved to fulfill Romans 11. The great tribulation ended in AD70. The end of the world is in the future, when the nations are deceived in Revelation 20.
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and "they are not all of Israel who are Israel". Nations are being judged right now for in Noah's day the wicked were taken not the righteous.
@barrygaynor1025
@barrygaynor1025 3 жыл бұрын
Spong and Goulder point out in their book, Liberating the Gospels: Reading the Gospels Through Jewish Eyes, that every author of the New Testament was a Jew (with perhaps the exception of the author of Luke-Acts, who is believed to have been a converted Jew); and the New Testament was written in the East. Spong and Goilder point out that Jews and those form the East wrote figuratively; but, the Scriptures eventually were in the hands of Gentiles in the West, who did not understand this.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly Israelites not from Judah
@wayneosaur
@wayneosaur Жыл бұрын
RC also misses the possibility of multiple fulfillments. The early fulfillments (e.g. the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD) is a pre-cursor or foreshadow of events much later in the future (e.g. Christ's return).
@randyfleming3571
@randyfleming3571 Жыл бұрын
All in the NT was foreshadowed in the OT. Two mistakes, KJV used world for age, he our mind set "end of the world" instead of "end of the age". Nowhere in OT so not in NI "end of the world". Daniel says time of the end, not end of time. Moses prophesied in Deuteronomy this end in Song of Moses and other scriptures. Daniel saw it and became ill for 3 days. How can God end His relationship with Israel? He doesn't "not all Israel are Israel", circumcision of the heart makes one an Israelite. Branches of the tree were cut off, Gentiles were grafted into the tree and became heirs with Jesus. The world can go on through perpetuity.
@chrisphillips4021
@chrisphillips4021 11 ай бұрын
He said when u see Titus army surround Jerusalem flee Judah to the mountains. If it was a foreshadow to later he would have said when u see the city surrounded by Titus the first time flee implying there would be a second. But he did not
@wayneosaur
@wayneosaur 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisphillips4021 The surrounding of Jerusalem by armies (which is only in Luke) corresponds to when Vespasian had Jerusalem surrounded in AD 68. There was then time to flee then -- and Eusibeus claims the Christians did flee. When Titus, his son, came in AD 70 there was no possibility to flee. Of course, this is a historical event that is merely a pre-cursor to the events that will occur during the Tribulation. In Matthew, the time to flee is when the abomination of desolation is set up in the Temple. Of course the precursor to this is in Daniel and Maccabees when Antiochus desecrated the Temple. There was no desecration in the Temple in AD 70 -- it was quickly burned and demolished. The Anti-christ will repeat what Antiochus did and will be a signal to flee.
@markdonnaabbott3977
@markdonnaabbott3977 7 ай бұрын
​@@wayneosaurso are you saying the physical Israel will build a 3rd temple, then the abomination of desolation will occur?
@wayneosaur
@wayneosaur 7 ай бұрын
@@markdonnaabbott3977 yes. In fact there end up being three analogous events: one under Antiochus (as Christ alludes to), one under Vespasian and Titus (AD 70), and the main event under the Man of Lawlessness. Four events if want to throw in Nebuchudnezzar.
@markdonnaabbott3977
@markdonnaabbott3977 7 ай бұрын
Are the full presentations available?
@jenihendrix3927
@jenihendrix3927 Жыл бұрын
His pacing is driving me crazy!!!
@ChrisManess1
@ChrisManess1 5 жыл бұрын
It’s cycling in all three, Like an Algorithm. The individual, the community, the (Nations). What did we learn from Babylon?
@ChrisManess1
@ChrisManess1 4 жыл бұрын
What has been, what is now, and what is to be. Babylon the mother of harlots. All within the individual person, the community, and the nation. But don’t disregard the Kingdom that is also operating within all and throughout all.
@sspicer549
@sspicer549 2 жыл бұрын
LY RC, but I simply cannot buy your eschatology. Can't wait to see you in heaven!
@dc-wp8oc
@dc-wp8oc 2 жыл бұрын
Now it is apparent why so many who go through a seminary are critics and skeptics. Why do men obfuscate what scripture makes clear?
@alfonsomedilo6511
@alfonsomedilo6511 3 жыл бұрын
How about 1Thessalonians 4: 16-17 For the Lord himself with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Doesn't that mean that this things will take place before they die and therefore affirms the synoptic passages that the word "this generation" is literal because it is during the lifetime of those he is talking to. Hebrew 9:27 it is appointed that man only die once and after that to face judgement, also cancels any attempt to interpret "we who are alive" as having been raised again because that will mean they will be judged twice not once.
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee 3 жыл бұрын
"Literal or Figurative?: The Last Days According to Jesus" The last days according to Jesus, will be BOTH literal and figurative. Examples... "Literal": 1. Jesus telling John the fate of the 7 churches. 2. The number of Seals, Trumpets and Vials, etc. 3. If anyone changes a word... 4. The 144,000 5. The Mark of the Beast 6. The Anti-Christ For just a few. There are many more. "Figurative: 1. The Beast 2. The false prophet 3. The 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Vials/Bowls 4. The Candlesticks 5. The Seven Hills 6. The Ten Horns For just a few. There are many more. Praise Jesus; for He is the ONLY true God there will ever have been.
@jb0433628
@jb0433628 2 жыл бұрын
"of events that clearly did take place" I disagree, Isaiah was seeing future events and these prophecies were only partially fulfilled.
@Jus4kiks
@Jus4kiks 2 жыл бұрын
The events did take place, there is no debate on the matter.
@josephmukhwanawilliam9487
@josephmukhwanawilliam9487 2 жыл бұрын
RC did his best here, but missed some points. We who are still on earth we shall correct where he went wrong. Am sure I will meet him in heaven and thank him for his commitment to the ministry of teaching God's word. We don't have to be perfect in all ways; it is because we all have a belly button!!
@Jus4kiks
@Jus4kiks 2 жыл бұрын
Where did he go wrong?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
Literal! If You Seek Jesus..He Saves and Frees You from ALL Religionists. Just like He Saved and Freed the people of His Day from the Pharisees!
@DogSoldier1948
@DogSoldier1948 4 жыл бұрын
Some contemporary churches are billed as “seeker-friendly,” but the Bible says that “no one seeks God.” Psalm 14:2-3 pictures God searching in vain for even one heart that seeks Him: “The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.” This passage is quoted in Romans 3:10-12, which says, “As it is written: ‘There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God.’” So, if no one seeks God, who are the “seekers” that some churches strategize to attract?
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
Dog Soldier I have learned this the hard way! I was born into a church and raised to seek the titled men. I was completely disabled with health problems after 50 years! Then I tried other churches! There is One Conclusion! Seek God..HimSelf! Your bible verse was so beautifully fit for my situation. Thank You so Much! I guess maybe..if people keep seeking? They will learn too. God is the Only Way. God is the Only One Who Knows what His Mercy and Grace Are for You. Men do Not know squat! You can seek churches and listen to men until you are blue in the face..but you will still not know what Gods Will is for You! It is interesting that Paul would say what he did and then set up an organization that defeated the entire plan of God! Thank You for your bible verse!
@Fit4faith2024
@Fit4faith2024 11 ай бұрын
The is a possibility of a dual fulfillment . One a physical the other a spiritual
@leefury7
@leefury7 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with his analysis that there is a commingling of figurative and literal. It is not unusual for there to be a partial fulfillment within the life time to whom the prophecy was foretold. That was, in the OT, the means of verifying that the prophecy was of God (i.e. true). I do agree with him that it all hinges on the meaning of "generation." I prefer to refer to Matthews account though Mark's use of the term is also significant in our understanding of it. "This generation" is used 3 times in Mt 12 (vs 41, 42, 45) and once in the previous chapter, ch 11:16 where Christ describes the "generation" by it's character as in 12:39 and 12:45. i.e. "Adulterous" and "evil generation." In Mt 23 Christ pronounces the "Woes". In Mt 23:13, 14, 15, the "Woes" are addressing failure in doctrine. In vs 16 and 23, they are a combination of doctrine and character. In vs 25, 27, 29, they address failure in character.. The "this generation" of Mt 23:36 is then contextually addressing specifically a certain doctrinal position and a certain character of those of whom the "Woe" has been sentenced. "Generation" therefore, refers to the Israel leadership (and those who follow them) disbelieving that Jesus is The Messiah, asking for yet another "sign." That is both the doctrinal and the character failure of that "generation." That "generation" of unbelief will continue until the end of Daniel's 70th week when they recognize Jesus' rightful claim as to being the Messiah; " they will look at Me whom they pierced; and they will mourn for Him, like one mourning for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn." (Zech 12:10). Belief ends that unbelieving generation having been purified (Mal 3:3; Zech 13:9; Zeph 3:9-13). "Generation" therefore is NOT time referenced. i.e. 40 yrs. The ENTIRE context of "that day" (Mt 22:23) the religious leaders (including those who historically killed the prophets sent to Israel and killing those who would follow. i.e. apostles and disciples) continually disbelieve what Jesus was claiming. Then when we come to the Olivet Discourse, the whole impetus of Jesus' answer to the disciples question in Mt 24:3 is in the context of the unbelief of Israel.
@christianfreedman4641
@christianfreedman4641 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone considered that when Jesus used the word "generation", He might have been meaning "this people or nation", since these are alternate meanings to the word "genea"? Thayer Definition: 1) fathered, birth, nativity 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy 2b) metaphorically a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character 2b1) especially in a bad sense, a perverse nation 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time 4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years
@ronbo30
@ronbo30 4 жыл бұрын
Christian Freedman no. He meant generation ( 40 years) Jesus also said some here will not taste death until all this be full filled.
@jaylonbachman
@jaylonbachman 4 жыл бұрын
BDR CHRIST what about Genesis 15:16? Moses speaking of the Israelites coming back in the 4th generation. They were enslaved for 400 years. That would mean a generation is 100 years.
@SugoiEnglish1
@SugoiEnglish1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaylonbachman Jesus' use of the phrase is clarified in other passages as only referring to those who heard him and saw his works. Upon this generation is required all the blood of the Prophets and servants of God...They who had the greater light (Jesus coming in the flesh and living among them) have the greater punishment.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
But The True Israel of God is by Faith like Abraham not if genealogical descendants So No!
@chrisphillips4021
@chrisphillips4021 11 ай бұрын
He said those who pierced him.woukd see him in the clouds he said some under the sound of his voice would not die until ALL these things are fulfilled. He came to fulfill the law and the prophets and the psalms. He said Father I have finished the work u sent me to do
@fritzdoerring9058
@fritzdoerring9058 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of The end of the age; rather, The end of YOUR age!
@kenowens9021
@kenowens9021 Ай бұрын
Adam and Eve failed, the Messiah Jesus came physically to restore the Fall. Because Jesus was not accepted and could not find his 2nd Eve, the 2nd Messiah, the Lord of the Second Advent, must come also physically, find his bride, and together restore Adam's family back to God.
@coreydallmeyer67
@coreydallmeyer67 5 ай бұрын
Too heady,no,? Let's get to the details.on eschatology,
@barryvallen1072
@barryvallen1072 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me the millennium has already happened and this fact has been hidden from us during Satan’s reemergence in his Short Season
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve pondered the same
@randyfleming3571
@randyfleming3571 Жыл бұрын
Temple to temple: Solomon's Temple, somewhere around 966 B.C - Destruction of the House of God under the Law, 70AD And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them, and the souls of those who have been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and because of the word of God, and who did not bow before the beast, nor his image, and did not receive the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand, and they did live and reign with Christ the thousand years; 5and the rest of the dead did not live again till the thousand years may be finished; this [is] the first rising again. 6Happy and holy [is] he who is having part in the first rising again; over these the second death hath not authority, but they shall be priests of God and of the Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years.
@berylsemper6751
@berylsemper6751 3 жыл бұрын
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@godswarriors7543
@godswarriors7543 5 жыл бұрын
The Bible is a history book. It is finished!! Hind sight is 20/20. History repeats itself. It is up to us to find what is going wrong in our part of the world and learn how to change it to avoid those things that are destroying us. One thing we found is: Jesus is The Word, John 1:1-5 The Word God spoke: Exodus 20:1 The Word God wrote: Deuteronomy 4:13 and The Word God made flesh John 1:14. He is our example of The Trinity. He is The Law that hung on the cross and The Law that is written in the heart. Psalms 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me Hebrews 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Build up the body of Christ by 'putting on' The Lord. Cling to, dwell in the law (Ten Commandments) and testimony (Sermon on the Mount). We know His voice. His words are spirit and they are life. Hear Him. Prepare for your future and the life of your loved ones. As Paul tells us, "put on Jesus." May He go with us all.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
The 10 commandments show that we are sinners needing His Great Salvation ✝️
@L.Fontein7
@L.Fontein7 Жыл бұрын
No.
@godswarriors7543
@godswarriors7543 Жыл бұрын
@@L.Fontein7 Your choice.
@flamingrobin5957
@flamingrobin5957 4 жыл бұрын
RC SPROUL IS USING ISEGESIS...he conveiniently always leaves out CONTEXT. "THIS GENERATION" has the context of a parable....32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
@jaycristoff4601
@jaycristoff4601 4 жыл бұрын
So likewise... ended the parable...change of subject
@Nobo35
@Nobo35 4 жыл бұрын
And they did come to pass in 70ad just like the King said they would.
@jesusistheonlygodamen3406
@jesusistheonlygodamen3406 3 жыл бұрын
Yet generation could mean the generation of Christians existing at any given time, or generation of Jews existing. As in, there will always be Christians or, will always be Jews, until this comes to pass.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and Jesus had just cursed The Fig tree and said it would NEVER produce fruit AGAIN ‼️ Out with the old 🕳🔥 In with THE NEW✝️🕊
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Tim Joseph..A religionist is any person who tells you Who Jesus is and What He wants You to Do. Jesus Asked us in Matthew 6:33 to Seek Him and His Righteousness. Jesus Never Said to seek men's opinions! Jesus gives direct personal revelation to all who Seek Him. You Need to Seek Jesus Yourself..Not be listening to Man and all their opinions.
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
Kathleen: if what you are saying is true, why do you bother to 'give your opinion', if we should never seek 'mens opinions' ? You're talking in circles my dear lady. It's fine to seek others opinions or offer our own. Just don't think our or others opinions are NOT subject to error or not in need of revision when we learn more Truth. God Alone, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are the only ones exempt from this condition. Dr Sproul here was one of the finest teachers & men of God in our generation and should be taken seriously in my opionion. He wasn't just a Theologian hd was also a Philosopher and did a great series analyzing Western Theoretical thought, its History & impact in "Consequences of Ideas"
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 5 жыл бұрын
+Mother Goose..Seriously? That is exactly what I Said! Seek Jesus and His Righteousness..His Opinion is the Only One that Counts. I seriously question your intelligence? I guess that could be one reason Sproul is so appealing. Listen to your religionist. Fine by me!
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenwharton2139 Lady any person who calls RC Sproul a "Religionist' or elsewhere you said "Pharisee" is either not familiar with him or seriously lacks judgement. Which you are is for you to say. IF you were familiar with RC's vast & erudite contributions to Christendom and listening to JESUS you'd show more respect to one of His servants. THAT was my point...
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenwharton2139 You said "not listen to men & their opinions". Does that include yours ?
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenwharton2139 God has gifted certain ones among men to be Teachers. They help us understand but we ALWAYS check them against God & His Word & also against Historical Truths known to prior generations of Christians. They fought battles long ago against heresies about Christ and won victories over those errors thats where we get the Apostles creed, the Nicene creed and the Chalcedon creed. The latter of which helped define Christ's 100% Divinity & 100% Humanity and the Trinity. That's how we gain a balanced view of God, His Word & our place in it.
@theotherwhitemeat4192
@theotherwhitemeat4192 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this guy was supposed to be some hotshot preacher, he doesn’t have a clue.
@Chris_Bergsma
@Chris_Bergsma 3 жыл бұрын
I would encourage you to read a good portion of his writings. He is an excellent teacher on many different subjects.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 жыл бұрын
Put down with no evidence is limp you give nothing Just critical
@crazyhorseaz5224
@crazyhorseaz5224 4 жыл бұрын
RC IS STILL GETTING CROWNS 👑
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