LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS (1986) vs. Original 1960 Movie [And the Musical, Short Stories, & Cartoon]

[@thedragonthatlovesskittles7132]

I religiously listen to audrey's 2 songs everyday.

[@itsAngiAKAlovejunkie]

“Random weird patient” is Jack Nicholson

[@davidschiller1611]

I noticed that as well. Much younger.

[@FallenGemini]

It was Jack Nicholson's first movie role.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@FallenGemini He would go on to do several Roger Corman films. I don't know what happened to him after that.

[@Sylver2019]

I thought that was him

[@AkiraStrix94]

I was literally going to say he looked like a really young Jack Nicholson. So even before The Shining and Batman '89 he played crazy characters. That's some real commitment.

[@alexanderchippel]

The Reluctant Orchid is a really good story, because it all makes sense. Like the plant wasn't evil or vicious, it was just hungry. If he didn't starve it, it wouldn't be a threat. And once it gets properly fed and cared for, it because docile and pet like. Also, it has a funny ending.

[@mattpropp9192]

It’s pretty wild that the original ending of little shop was unseen for so long. It was probably the most expensive, effects heavy portion of the movie, but it also gives the story some thematic intention beyond a romantic resolve and some catchy songs. The movie has all this emphasis on poverty, capitalism, “American dream” etc- with the theatrical ending it all just comes across as insignificant. The original ending puts a nice pessimistic bow on the story and turns it into a morality tale where a few get rich but everyone dies. Great vid 👌Don’t stop making content.

[@PugMugsly]

Thank you! I definitely prefer the dark original ending. They went ALL IN.

[@only257]

@@PugMugsly me too❤

[@Maxesbugle]

🎶When I was younger, just a good little kid, the army notice funny things I did play stand up for myself in an alleyway and at the end Bucky save the day and then they found me and took me in and then the army said (what did they say?) they said boy I think someday you’ll find a way to make a natural tendencies Pay you’ll be a super soldier🎶

[@VickiKolman]

Little Shop of Horrors is one of my favorites, the 1986 movie with both endings, and I've seen it performed live three times (at small theatres). The 1961 version scared me the first time I saw it many years ago, all those faces! I don't know the short stories but based on your recap, they definitely sound like artistic influences. I prefer the original horrific ending, I'm glad it was recovered.

[@HuntingViolets]

Frequent Roger Corman actor Jack Nicholson is the masochistic patient (a part later played by Bill Murray in the musical movie, although he actually gets to see the dentist there--turns out the dentist's sadism isn't sated by masochists, though).

[@RushenJane]

I didn't know that the original version of the film was black and white. I watched The Little Shop of Horrors 1960 in a colorized form. 😅

[@SugarMama98-qb2td]

I also watched on KZbin.

[@that44rdv4rk]

You noticed that the masochist in the 1960 version is Jack Nicholson, right?

[@PugMugsly]

I 100% forgot when I was filming, but it was one of his first few roles, I think?

[@that44rdv4rk]

@@PugMugsly Not sure, but it must have been.... annnd I looked it up. between 3rd and 8th role ( he was busy for whatever production season led to 1960 releases)

[@morganrspringer]

I find it interesting that the stage version of the musical doesn’t include the masochist scene from the og movie. But movie musical does.

[@thewkovacs316]

bill murray's lifelong dream to remake a role originated by jack nicholsen

[@HuntingViolets]

She died the way she lived--a victim of abuse.

[@slimeprivilege]

20:10 whoa a young Jack Nicholson! didn't even know about this 1960 version, not that I've even seen the 1986 film either. Always have been meaning to get around to it, great vid Pug!

[@PugMugsly]

Thank you! :)

[@solrachernandez3389]

I know this videos old but there's a color version of the 60's film it's currently on KZbin

[@OnlyOneTubing]

You're amazing. Your content is amazing, and I am very happy to listen to you review anything.

[@PugMugsly]

Why thank you! :)

[@baldchinchilla]

Hopefully the remake gets a theatrical release and not the straight to streaming treatment. Also I miss seeing Rick Moranis in movies.

[@PugMugsly]

If they do remake it, hopefully it's in theaters! Also, your username fascinates me. I used to have a chinchilla.

[@baldchinchilla]

@@PugMugsly thanks it's a nickname I got after an unfortunate haircut in middle school. I wasn't what you'd call popular. Chinchillas are cool though.

[@BigAL68xyz]

For the first time I realized that the Futtermans from the Gremlins movies met for the first time in the 1960 LSOH. Dick Miller played the flower eater, and Jackie Joseph played Audrey.

[@314BROWNIE]

Audrey 2 standing on top of the statue of liberty is hilarious!! How on earth did you find footage of the original ending?? 😮 im glad they changed the ending but i feel they could have come out with another one the way they both ended

[@bookwoman53]

For the musical the plant’s voice was originally very nasal in imitation of Audrey Junior. The score was not fun early ‘60s rock. There’s also a video of Menken performing a medley of the cut songs at a Little Shop fan show. There is also a group of early demo songs performed by Ashman & Menken.

[@casesoutherland4175]

I personally prefer the original over the remake, which might surprise some of you. The remake is great, but that's mostly because of the special effects and the musical numbers. The original's characters were more memorable to me and the deaths were funnier. Seymour, Audrey, and Mr Mushnik seemed to interact more naturally in the original, probably because they had to in real life. Most of the scenes you see in the original were the first takes. The movie only took 4 days to shoot on a fairly low budget and had multiple cameras from various angles filming simultaneously. It was like watching......well, a sitcom! To me, the remake feels more like a play that was more reliant on visuals than storytelling, which doesn't mean it's a bad movie. I enjoy it! Steve Martin's musical number is one of my favorites ever and the animatronics are breathtaking to watch, but that's about it for me. The original wasn't about special effects. It was there to tell a darkly hilarious story and it really delivered!

[@dodgethunderstorm8524]

of course it isn't Little Shop if it doesn't have a masochist getting gratification from a sadistic dentist

[@AntiFaGoat]

For anyone curious about venus flytraps, because the musical actually inspired my green thumb (which isn't that green but I learned some things) to take care of house plants, they don't die after eating three times. However, a lot of people get all giddy about watching them eat and overfeed them on flies or other things they shouldn't eat. Flytraps evolved carnivorous appetites as a backup for the crappy swamp soil they grow in, and when left to their own devices, they actually grow very slowly. It can take YEARS for them to bloom in the wild. Also, they're usually tiny. They grow among swamp shrubs and grasses, where flies occasionally buzz around and make a big mistake. So, imagine if you just had a big meal and then just as you start to digest, you're immediately force-fed another big (possibly toxic) meal. You would die, and that's exactly what happens to these tiny plants. If they have good soil and you make sure they don't cook or freeze in your window, they don't need to eat very often. Also, they're endangered in their natural habitat. That natural slow growth rate has caused plant poachers (cuz they are a thing) to head out to the Carolina swamps where they grow and sell them to garden and grocery stores everywhere. So if you see one at your local home depot, DON'T buy it. You're supporting the destruction of endangered biomes, and it's probably going to die anyway. There are lots of responsible cultivators of different carnivorous plants on the net you can buy from. More expensive, but better.

[@PugMugsly]

This is a very thoughtful and informative comment about venus flytraps. Thank you!

[@haileybrennan6195]

I think I could handle the remake if they keep the things that make us love the story, and understand why the story is so well loved. Keeping that camp and b movie feel in there. They could even give us the original ending if they keep the songs that help lead up to it. Because in my opinion taking out it’s just the gas, changing how musnik confronts Seymour during supper time and taking Seymours solo in the meek shall inherit out made Seymour to sympathetic for the original ending. Which is one of the main reasons the test audience were so upset. I love the normal movie as is, but They could definitely fix that and give us a more accurate adaptation. Alternatively the idea of little shop of horror is so vast that if they put the passion behind it they could make a new brand of weird to enjoy. If they make Audrey 2 cgi though I’d personally have a problem I understand cgi is cheaper but Audrey 2 has traditionally been a puppet that’s one of the things the musical and movie are know for besides the camp and the original ending. It seems like a slap in the face if Audrey 2s souly cgi. I also am nervous about Chris evens as the dentist. He seems really passionate so I’m sure he can drive home a good performance. He also was pretty good as Vince from knives out. That being said the dentist is a pretty speratic character. He’s the guy who actively punches nurses and rips dolls heads off. He’s the embodiment of a 2d villain who you’re not allowed to sympathize with. You need the energy and over the Topness of Tim curry to pull it off. Steave Martin had that energy and understood the character which is why he did such an amazing job. I don’t have an issue with Chris Evens and I know he can play a bad guy but he seems to be a little to calm in his roles to play a dentist. It’s not enough to just be snarky you have to be down right insane. I could be very wrong though I haven’t seen him in many roles outside of captain America and knives out.

[@thewkovacs316]

i would also put back some of the cut songs from the original stage production i believe that some productions have done that....to great success

[@HuntingViolets]

Sam Reid would be great as the dentist. He can sing too.

[@jonnaking3054]

I never knew that "squeak" came from Audrey.... I always thought it was the plant that made the noise lol

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

I love that you just do whatever pops into your head with this channel. It's like a grab bag of silly and interesting things. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Biblical Vampires, Cryptids, the TGIF lineup, StarGate, romance novel fanfic, psychics telling you what your future husband will look like... it's all game here. And now there's a great 40-minute video that covers Little Shop of Horror in all forms of media! If ever you throw together a proper channel trailer... man, how are you going to summarize what this channel is about, lol? Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about another version - this is the first I'm hearing of it. Though it doesn't have "the stink" of a usual current-day Hollywood "We have run out of ideas so we'll remake an older hit movie"-type project to it. It's more like... adding to the canon, right? Another version to compare and contrast against the other two films; not a reboot, not replacing the old ones, not trying to do a modern gritty definitive edition. If it's bad or good, doesn't matter - it's just another one thing to talk about. That's fine. Though I honestly struggle to think of a good, like, director to handle a comedic musical in this day and age...

[@PugMugsly]

My big fear with a remake is that they would try to get Tim Burton to direct. But it would be modern CGI Tim Burton, and it just wouldn't be right. Lol, my channel is very much a stream of consciousness. Like, the topics are all things I would potentially just start talking about if you were trapped in a room with me for a couple hours.

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

@@PugMugsly Well, if I had to be trapped in a room, yours would be a fun one to be trapped in 😉 This channel is great

[@yourlocalchaos]

The remake was confirmed in late 2022 that it was cancelled.

[@andrewgrant6516]

The narrating detective is Dragnet. Dragnet was huge, and parodies of it were everywhere. It had a very distinctive dialogue style of question and answer that was easy to mimic.

[@thewkovacs316]

joe friday dragnet was the show

[@MayumiC-chan9377]

i was laughing when i couldn’t figure out what my husband was singing when he was clean the garage Green mean motha from outer space and i’m mad😂

[@HuntingViolets]

I never heard Collier pronounced like that before. Interesting.

[@PugMugsly]

I’m very bad at pronouncing names, even if I look them up. So it wouldn’t surprise me if I said it wrong!

[@BK00000]

Rifftrax did a riff of the original Little Shop of Horrors. It's a Roger Corman classic.

[@thedragonthatlovesskittles7132]

16:14 the powerhouse of the cell?

[@Lainey-Paige]

I think it’s based on the Forest Reverie by Edgar Allen Poe

[@that44rdv4rk]

Pondering.... I wonder if the source material is a "Reefer Madness" style allegory about a weakling/outcast finding comfort/strength in a sinister plant (pot or poppies?) and succumbing to the powers of the plant, killing all of his friends, and ultimately dying. edit: there are definitely poppies in the plant from the 1960 movie.

[@PugMugsly]

It’s certainly possible!

[@paull4048]

I find it disturbing that you include a trigger warning about the depiction of domestic violence, but not about murder. This says so much about our society. Not attacking you, I really enjoyed the content.

[@evanlinden4410]

RIP Roger Corman

[@DakNJaxter]

I mean, if it's good I wouldn't mind seeing a another take on the story. Given how much it's already been remixed (not to mention copious stage adaptations) it would be churlish to say "no, we nailed it in 1986, no more verions". But, I would be trepidations. For every successful remake/sequel, there's more that fall flat or miss the mark.

[@HuntingViolets]

I forgot Jackie Joseph was in this.

[@rifasclub]

¿Alguien sabe donde puedo ver la original de los 60's en México? Or at least where you can watch it in the US or other countries for reference? I don't think it is available in any streaming service, here.

[@HuntingViolets]

Honest to God, if they do a remake of the musical, Sam Reid could play the dentist and Jacob Anderson could play Seymour.

[@hunterackerman1697]

People love the idea of, make your bed and lying in it. Also make the remake!

[@only257]

60s film the best the remakes were good❤

[@thewkovacs316]

not really a perfect movie and while what you saw is called the director's cut, oz had nothing to do with it beyond signing off on it wouldve been much better had they not cut a bunch of songs and left in all the dark comedy i saw the original off broadway production with the original cast if they do a remake, i hope it is more closely based on the stage musical but im sorry....ellen greene owns the audrey role....both on stage and screen....no one can really replace her

[@HuntingViolets]

Kind of surprising Kristen Chenoweth has never done this musical, in a way.

[@serafinahart4012]

1986 remake is the best version end of discussion

[@haraldputensen7955]

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[@Ninjachucks]

FEED MEE

[@dracobyronwaynericci]

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[@therojowo]

Is the Fonz different from Elvis?

[@sen.garyhart4239]

The short stories, the '60's movie, the stage show ( both Broadway and high school productions alike ), the cartoon, and even a remake with all of the gender/race/orientation swapping they can muster can all be dismissed merely with a flick of the wrist. However, suggesting, or even hinting at the existence of the '83 director's cut is immoral and reprehensible and that is where I draw the line!