Live Sound POV Gig Log 15 - You asked for it: The Setup video!

[@dalechristenson685]

I noticed in a couple of questions about cost to do the show that someone else chimed in. He mentioned from $300 to $350 to mix that venue. I wouldn’t be able to justify that price with $40 to $50 thousand dollars worth of equipment. Rental of that alone should come to 400 to 500 dollars. Then add truck expenses and labor and I could easily come up with a minimum of $750 charge. How do you ever replace worn out or broken equipment? Stuff happens. Why do we sound guys accept peanuts for the services worth easily twice, and maybe more? My area in Oklahoma provides me with a minimum of $1250 to $1500 for shows with my $80k equipment I bring. That took many years to get built up from $250 in bars. I don’t do bars since they can’t pay and I do less work, but my P&L statement at the end of the year shows better profit margins. Overall, I find your video very well done (with respect to your equipment and setup process). My system takes about an hour and I have help. There’s a lot here to learn from to pare down how long it takes me to setup. I am a bit medically impaired so I require a helper. No more than 15lbs and right arm not over my head. Been this way for a year. Hope that it comes to an end where I can work normally again.

[@christiansoldier1118]

Man - what ever they paid you it wasnt enough! - my back has just twinged watching that - and Im exhausted lol - great work great video - people just dont realise how much effort goes into your whole day - liked!

[@inthemixls]

luckily I have things staged so there isn't too much heavy lifting (dead lifting) anymore. I have spent years streamlining things to get to this point. Hopefully there were some takeaways you can use (other than the amount of work, lol) Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@skinnyb9039]

This is the worst video I’ve ever watched. I’m only half way through and already my Amazon cart is full of gear I didn’t even know existed ! Those Edison XLR looms are a genius idea. Hope I can finish the video before my wife comes home.

[@inthemixls]

lol, I'm glad you found it helpful! Sorry about the wallet though! I find those power/xlr combo cables a huge timesaver. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@hugocastaneda6085]

I just used these power/xlr yesterday absolutely perfect I'll be getting more for sure.

[@maqzali2585]

Thanks a lot of the complete process videos.. i liked. Best. Every single momment, every “click” sound of socket, every “pop” sound of putting down the stuff are like sound of satisfiying. Because i’m a soundman n pa system person too. Feels like i’m in that situation.. thanks sir..

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@davebrownentertainment7191]

I provided sound for 3 bands, 2 nights in a row last week. Your video made me feel like I was right back at work. Lol. I've been making sure my subs have their own dedicated power run, as even a single powered 18 sub can use around 15 amps (at 120v) at peak, by itself (I typically run 2 JBL PRX918XLF subs, and 2 SRX812p tops per side). Thanks for sharing! :)

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@gaffle-411]

Thank goodness for your head mounted GoPro camera! Great work on this video.

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@noahman27]

these are great! more of these if you can. love the long format.

[@inthemixls]

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[@deewizzard808]

APPRECIATE THE LONG VIDEOS. LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU. I RUN A SMALL DJ AND PRODUCTION COMPANY IN WAIKIKI HAWAII AND YOU SHOWED LOTS OF COOL SHORT CUTS . THANK YOU 🙏🏿

[@inthemixls]

Thank you, glad the videos help! Thanks for watching!

[@harlanchaput]

I love the extended video! Thank you.

[@inthemixls]

@@harlanchaput thank you for watching!

[@nategamez8279]

This is actually very cool! Thanks for sharing! :D

[@inthemixls]

Thanks for watching!

[@nategamez8279]

@@inthemixls I’m always on KZbin! My notifications are on for your channel! 😁

[@researchintospeed]

I always think of these as a 1.5. Not quite enough work for two, but a fair amount of work for one person. Doable, and cost effective, but a long day. Great to hear you talking about packing mics away first etc, the small details that matter and are often not mentioned. Where possible we ramp directly from the van onto the stage, but I can see here driving the trailer to the front of the stage and reversing in may not have been possible, or maybe not ok with the groundskeeper. Great stuff and thanks for the video.

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching. I appreciate your comments!

[@williamtheconjurer]

Great job, and I have to agree a lot of work for one person, and of course people are always trying to talk to you while your line checking and ringing out the monitors.

[@fifthflaw]

Loved this video. Potentially a lot of work but would love a list of some of the gear you used, maybe some highlights in the description. The xlr/power snakes and the rear battery powered pars caught my eye in particular

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching! The XLR/Power cables are from EliteCore. The battery powered pars are from ColorKey (PartyBar 150)

[@Djshaw1kinglegend]

Nice setup 👍🏽🔊✅️

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@MichaelNatrin]

Great episode! Those siamese cables seem super convenient.

[@inthemixls]

I feel they save a lot of time! Thanks for watching

[@varok011]

I'm a lighting guy, I noticed the fixtures stop on the pans. Go get yourself some WDMX and larger antennas. Always have line of site. I use it all the time. Lights looked good, I was shocked, considering the board and small lights. Great video. If you have any lighting questions please feel free to ask.

[@inthemixls]

I appreciate your comment, exactly the type of info I was hoping to see. For now, I may have found a solution that involves a DMX to Artnet converter that also connects via Wifi to a router. That combined with an old DMXKing node I had sitting around seem to be working out for now. I will definitely look into the WDMX though for the bigger gigs! Thanks for watching!

[@audio808DFS]

Awesome video. Love the setup.

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and subscribing!

[@FrankPavlik-i1o]

I have worked with this band before. great venue

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@pilotboy]

such a great video man! can we get a tour of your mix rack because it looks awesome. that rack mount computer is quite unique

[@inthemixls]

I'm planning on doing some gear rundowns during the off season. Stay tuned. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@MrMercho4416]

Nice Job All Around

[@inthemixls]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@THEREALDJREDD]

Just came across your vlog. I just subscribed. We have a lot in common. I also do most of the gigs by myself.

[@inthemixls]

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@SuperLevelone]

Someone commented they only charged 350 to 500 to do this type of set up at the same venue...? I do about half of what was this set up and I get $1000 per show. Sometimes 1200-1500 depending on who it is. I really think you're great and have a lot of experience that people can learn from. Great job man. BUT I hope you didn't only make 350 like the other guy mentioned and if so... PLEASE charge more... If one is reliable and professional you'll get it! AND I CAN TELL YOU ARE BOTH! Wish you the best! I'll keep watching.

[@ryanbrooks8544]

Did you mod the SRXs to accommodate a pole mount? I’ve got 6 of the SP’s and would love to do that. The 828sp are still the best sub in class by my ear.

[@inthemixls]

I did. They've long been out of warranty, and the pole mount really helps streamline certain setups. Thanks for watching!

[@MappleTV]

Amazing video. Didn’t even know half of the thinks do exist 😅 What kind of monitor do you use? I mean the monitor with touch

[@inthemixls]

Hey! Glad you are enjoying the videos! The touch screen monitor is a 15.5 inch Travel touchscreen from Amazon. Thanks for watching!

[@LG1685h]

Do any of the bands you work with ask you for wireless IEM's? Also what brand are those stage wedges? Thanks.

[@inthemixls]

The stage wedges are DbTechnologies FMX series. 10s, 12s, and a 15 at the drums. I do have bands that use IEMs. I have PSM300s racked up with a Behringer SD8, so I can run 3 stereo or 4 mono wireless channels (I have 4 body packs at this point). Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@thomasosgood4990]

Sounds great! I am a solo tech myself. Any chance you would be willing to share your scene ? I would love to see your eq compression ect. I learn a lot by seeing how other engineers work.

[@drik165]

What wireless donner do you use for your wmx1? You had a great distance from the stage!

[@inthemixls]

In this video, I was using the Chauvet Di-Fi, and a generic Wireless DMX I got several years ago. I don't think it had a brand name. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@glorylandsound-uq1zq]

What are the name of the 2 lights that you use for the front lighting? And where did you get the small crossbar for them to hang on?

[@inthemixls]

The Front Pars are Probst Lighting Uberpar (I think they are related to Ape Labs). The crossbar is from a square 6 foot t-bar that I cut down to size

[@jasonlajuene2036]

how do you find it best to pre aim the lights before you go up with them ?

[@inthemixls]

Sometimes it's trial and error. I find the more I use the lights, I learn their coverage pattern, which helps to make some aiming decisions prior to sending them in the air. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@peterziders7249]

Love the video, I noticed you plugged the 4816 to the m32c, could you have also sent the cat cable to DL32 our would you need to change the routing?

[@inthemixls]

I'd have to check the manual, but I believe for the DL, the Ultranet out represents AES outputs. Rather than look it up, I just went out of the mixer. But to your point, you could certainly use the Ultranet outputs from the DL

[@benratliff9157]

I really enjoyed the longer video of the set up! Although i do wonder if there’s a head cam mount for your camera, that way whatever you’re seeing the camera is seeing instead of when you weren’t sure what the camera was seeing. But awesome job! Those monitors look awesome! What are they? I need some lol

[@inthemixls]

I'll look into a head mount. The monitors are dBTechnologies FMX 10,12, and a 15 for drums. Thanks for watching!

[@StevieRayEntertainme]

You're in my backyard. I grew up in Catty. We need to get together. 30 year DJ and want to get more into live sound.

[@campincampbells2573]

the power cable you run across the stage for all the monitors what do you call that! i want one aha

[@inthemixls]

The cable is from Seismic Audio. It's been working out really well! Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@TheImageDoctor]

Just a point of curiosity... how much does it generally cost for this level of sound reinforcement at this type of event/venue ???

[@TheImageDoctor]

@@FrankPavlik-i1o wow - okay thanks for the info - I'm trying to gauge how "big" my band needs to get before we actually start hiring out our live sound at gigs

[@psaint9720]

the Yamaha cover is for witch yamaha Box ?

[@inthemixls]

DZR 12. Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@louisoppenheimer6618]

try lumenradio for wireless dmx any crmx transmitter is far better than standard wireless dmx will need tx and rx but range should be at least a mile line of sight and supports rdm

[@inthemixls]

Thank you, I appreciate the suggestion. Thank you for watching!

[@arielsanchez6886]

what are those yamaha speaker covers that fit the x40?

[@inthemixls]

Yamaha SPCVR-1201. Thanks for watching!

[@jackierichardson8620]

what size monitors you got they look very very very lightweight and compact i like that

[@inthemixls]

The monitors are dBTechnologies FMX 10, 12, and a 15 for drums

[@jasonlapasinskas5302]

Not afraid of tripping that power conditioner with all the wedges on it? What kind of amperage does each wedge draw?

[@inthemixls]

According to the manual, at 1/3 power "under heavy operating conditions" the draw is 2 amps for the 12/15 and 1.4 amps for the 10s

[@tyronejames819]

Is this program accessible?? If it is can i get the name of it please. Im a young music engineer trying to get as many programs as possible to deal with PA systems that i setup and specialize in

[@inthemixls]

The program on my tablets and devices is Mixing Station. It's a great tool, especially if you might be mixing on different brand mixers. Not only is it compatible with different brands, you can use similar Mixing Station layouts across those different mixers.

[@tyronejames819]

@@inthemixls ok thanks

[@maebeans]

that kick was sounding kinda crunchy in a bad way, was that just the video? also how do you feel about l/r subs and power valleys?

[@inthemixls]

I use the internal mic of the DJI Pocket 3, it may have been overdriven at parts. I try to center subs at most gigs. As with most things audio, there are compromises between the ideal and what's practical for setup in the location.

[@wrc1045]

What combo power cord/xlr are those Thanks

[@inthemixls]

They are from Elite Core

[@pinoysacanada2023]

What work gloves are u using? ;)

[@inthemixls]

Hardy brand from Harbor Freight. Thanks for watching!

[@santiagoblint9330]

HELLO MY FRIEND, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE FOR THIS WORK? TKS!!!

[@jasonlajuene2036]

why not plug the front monitors into the line you dropped in the front ?

[@inthemixls]

I haven't timed it, but I feel it's more efficient to use the power/xlr combo cables for the wedges. Instead of having to coil, store, and layout a power cable and xlr feed, the combo cable is just one cable to pack up instead of two. I also feel it makes for a cleaner stage, and it keeps the outlets in the stringer open for the band to use. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@joelglaser5657]

@@inthemixls What brand power stringer is that? Looks like it has 4 outlets every 5-6 feet?

[@inthemixls]

@@joelglaser5657 They are a stringer from Seismic Audio. I decided to take a chance on them, and they've been working out nicely.

[@ChrisDorrmusic]

If you edit with Davinci Resolve you can easily eliminate the background noise in your videos. Especially the parts when you're in your truck. It's only in the paid version, but it's a game-changer. I have Izotope RX and Waves Clarity but Resolve works better and is easier to use.

[@inthemixls]

@@ChrisDorrmusic thank you! Resolve is great and I'll look into using that feature more in those scenes going forward. Thanks for watching!

[@disneyworld3765]

Just wandering how much does a company charge for a setup like this for this event

[@inthemixls]

It depends on your local market. Thank you for watching!

[@disneyworld3765]

@@inthemixls I watched a crew do something very similar for about 6800 in KY for a crow of about 380-400. I thought it was a good price but I also see some crews in similar situations charging half that

[@mattiassjodin8966]

How old are the JBL subs? Looks like they been through some rough useage… 😢

[@inthemixls]

I believe I got them in 2016, soon after they were released by JBL. So they are about 8 years old now and still making $. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@SuperLevelone]

@@inthemixls I have those SUBS they are killer

[@reganroman]

I saw that you use the Midas DN4816-O to send the monitor wedges? I was thinking that this equipment do not have the voltage to do that.

[@inthemixls]

I haven't measured the voltage, but it drives my powered speakers to the levels I require.

[@georgesnow]

It's balanced XLR at the same level that would come out of the desk. why wouldn't it work?

[@QRS365]

Thanks for sharing this video. How much approximately a show like this will pay ? I know it differs from region to region. But just to get an idea of the charges. I am starting a small production company

[@FrankPavlik-i1o]

I found the video while looking for clips of the band in gigs I have done sound for them. Pretty cool to see this video and well done. I have covered them at this spot and was paid $350. That is about the going rate in my area.

[@QRS365]

@@FrankPavlik-i1o thank you for sharing this info

[@SuperLevelone]

@@FrankPavlik-i1o WOW not enough!

[@djcanerep416x]

where can i get THAT trailer

[@marcdich]

My question to you is the title of your video says Meijer but I’m seeing you’re running JBL cabinets now. I haven’t watched the whole video but what part of it are you using Meyer oh wait so I added this comment after looking it looks like you’re running the monitors are the brand that I was talking about personally I have never heard that brand but I do know it’s a good brand and second as I’m watching your video say you’re running the mono on the house have you ever thought about running Stereo especially for outside? It actually sounds better in the long run of my opinion than mono, but that’s just my personal opinion now in an arena or someplace like that maybe it’d be different but anyway besides that actually this weekend I’m going to be putting up a large sound system in a local church probably I would say the speakers alone or half 1 million maybe more as we’re dealing with probably 12 subs and six liner raisesand then we got a German board made by SL that’s real nice from Germany

[@inthemixls]

They Meyer boxes are the "tops" being used for mains. They are Ultra X40s. I use Yamaha covers with them

[@JordanAllenClark]

Chester County?

[@inthemixls]

This was up near Allentown, but we cover alot of Eastern and SE PA

[@davestasts1173]

Where are you located?

[@fjgrg2033]

You don't have helpers?

[@inthemixls]

I do use helpers for larger festivals.

[@thewatcher714]

Can someone tell that other guy that this guy is trying to make a video so he can shut up!