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[@jfrancesart]

Thank you Gigi for being so respectful and sensitive of DV survivors

[@PrettyLiesAndAlibis]

@@jfrancesart Love you and your courage. Her story isn’t mine to tell or to judge. It’s a delicate dance and I just wanted to tell the facts as they came out.

[@luholt9632]

Six person jury was because it was not a capital case. A capital case would require 12 jurors. Not an easy job for anyone. She was scared, she just kept it inside. I feel so sad for Doug's daughter Eva. I'd love to see her develop a relationship with Emerson. They are sisters, half sisters.

[@Chloe.zyxwvu]

A major part of why people were not able to connect with or believe Ashley is the lack of fear and heart that came across in her narrative. She had a few examples which people were not able to understand could or would lead to her life being in physical danger. Plus the photos showed no proof. Her explanations were brief -he hurt the dog so he could hurt me. He got scarily angry, so I feared for my life -unfortunately, that’s not enough. People need to feel or see what the victim felt. What lead up to it? How did you live in despair in those moments in between? If the victim doesn’t emote, doesn’t portray that picture with details , then it comes across as flat and made up. On top of that, there were inconsistencies in her behavior and her disposition. Some people don’t like to share the dark parts of their lives. Shame shuts them down. Their bodies freeze when they’re being watched, so they’re unable to reveal that pain. If she was innocent, the true tragedy becomes that her behavior betrayed her in mirroring that of someone who is untruthful, instead of someone who is socially and emotionally broken. May healing come to Eva and her younger sister. Growing up without your parents erases a sense of home in this world.

[@DiannaPrince2000]

👏👏👏👏🎯🎯💯👍

[@user-lz1jp7nb1w]

Sweet Eva had tears running down her face. She misses her dad so much.

[@Alaska-yg3uj]

I think Eva feels sadness over the verdict. She knows more than she could speak to.

[@CarolMakoweski]

Prosecutors job is to get justice not be sympathetic with defendants

[@idahardy4052]

Prosecutors didn’t prove she didn’t act in self defense.

[@Bunnybella765]

The same outcome could have been achieved with more sensitivity to the DV issue. Especially since AB was so docile, fake or not. I think it probably hurt the case with the jury.

[@christineisabel7827]

@@Bunnybella765the prosecution has a job to do and is to not take emotions, into their case. As a juror they must do the same,using facts not emotions

[@Hadacattoo2]

​@@Bunnybella765 yes, I too found their behavior bullish. Yes they have to present their case, but they seemed so snide and sarcastic, like it's almost personal. Very insensitive to DV victims in general.

[@whatareuthinking1]

It’s to chase the truth NOT a conviction. They didn’t

[@WriterProfessor]

Gigi-my spouse and brother are both investigators. People lie about so many things including being the victims of domestic abuse. We can’t rely on how we feel, or what an intimate friend went through when examining evidence. Nothing…and I mean nothing…can be taken for granted in these types of situations. You have to verify everything. I don’t understand (and maybe I don’t care to understand) why some people have a problem with this.

[@realhappy3346]

Such a great point! It’s an investigator’s job to investigate these situations not just took take any one side’s version or word. Some ppl just don’t have ability to remain objective due to a multitude of reasons.

[@DiannaPrince2000]

​​​@@realhappy3346I totally agree! That is an absolutely wonderful point!! As a DV survivor, I am so grateful for the awesome investigators assigned to my case. They were working to find out the truth regardless of whom it might hurt. They succeeded at finding the truth, and I am alive to tell about it!!🫠

[@2Jos]

Sorry, I didn’t buy anything in this case. She thought she could manipulate her way out of taking responsibility for her actions.

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

Omg, Gigi with STS & Dr G. Some of my favorite creators!!! I'm so happy the jury got this right. After looking into this case & doing some basic research, Ashley was no victim. The victims are the children who no longer have parents. This is sad, regardless. A father, husband, son & veteran is dead, and Ashley is going to prison for a long time. She took away Doug's daughter Eva's ONLY LIVING PARENT out of jealousy. So unnecessary. P.s. get a DIVORCE if you don't want to be with your spouse. This is NOT the way. P.s.s. Ashley and Doug's child need to have relationships with both sides, imo. Alienation is devastating for the kids and the grandparents. Doug's family deserves to know their grandchild. It goes both ways. That child deserves the most love from both sides.

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

so much misinformation in this chat, based solely on what Ashley said. He did not admit to knocking the dog out, but people keep claiming that.

[@Bunnybella765]

I respect your position GiGi. Much respect! It’s a hard topic and the prosecutors did no favours to their case. In court for the jury and in the court of public opinion. The big question is…will we hear from any of the jurors? 👀

[@grandmaof4811]

We are assuming it was a NG hold out. It could have been manslaughter vs the higher charge! Just a thought. 🤔

[@potr6461]

i agree that it was probably a hold out for the higher charge - much more likely to "compromise" (however unfortunate)

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

that is certainly possible.

[@carolerichard5250]

IMO-Many women & men have been abused by partners. Ashley wasn’t one of them. She is manipulative, egotistical, and very immature. Even her walking out of that courtroom after verdict…so staunch… showed pridefulness and no humility or sorrowfulness for what she did to Doug and his family… only an attitude. Not a kind or nice person. Hoping she gets full 30.

[@karensholes7920]

Imo, no respect for the judge.

[@idahardy4052]

Wow - SC knew she was abused and FL did not accuse her of bringing false charges. It’s crazy how this turned out and that you saw attitude in her instead of fear.

[@candyorange266]

“The smarter you are the more likely you are to dig in your heels and refuse to change your mind.” This is absolutely not true Dr G. Truly smart people always leave a little space for the fact that they could be wrong.

[@grandmaof4811]

I can't wait to hear from the jury!

[@realhappy3346]

I’m very curious to see if hear from them too

[@louiselanthier5135]

I love STS! I got an unexpected sweet little hug by Joel in Toronto! Wow! So much to learn - true crime!

[@sandyedmisten8621]

Such a great episode Joel! Gigi is always amazing and COE does so much to make this channel one of the best out there!❤❤

[@CarolMakoweski]

The amount of unfounded accusations against Doug hurt her credibility I believe

[@katheywhearley8074]

Seems like the jury wanted to finish it that night no matter what.

[@AlliOfAwesome]

You’re the best GiGi! Like you, I always believe people who say they’ve been abused and sit back and watch an investigation. Thank you for consistently promoting the hotline for victims.

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

the dog did not get knocked out. this expert doesn't know what a normal blink rate is, but bought her performance eompletely.

[@VickiSenn]

Love you Gigi. You keep it real but respectful

[@idahardy4052]

The jury compromised and gave her those lesser included. All those people in the chat who are saying she’s not behaving a certain way. The state did NOT prove she didn’t act in self defense. This man actually abused animals - he punched the dog so hard that he knocked him out. He threw the elderly cat down the stairs. On the day he hit her, she thought he would kill her. When she heard the verdict, she was so dejected. Thank goodness for the good doctor.

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

I’m so sad I missed THIS live! What a panel, Gigi. Josh Ritter is great. You should catch his Podcast if you get the chance. Courtroom Confidential.

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

I had a pretty awful divorce 9+ years ago. It involved an affair, a baby out of wedlock, kidnapping, drugs, etc. that kind of drama. I was even arrested after calling 911 during one of the only fights we ever had because I looked "angry". But never, have I ever thought about taking his life. I can not imagine doing that to our kids. Being a woman myself, I DO NOT believe all women. My brother was shot at by his crazy fiance (1 incident of MANY) and after she threw her diamonds into the lake right after they said their vows, he figured it out. Thank God he left her, but to this day, he is still trauma bonded to her. I pray he never goes back to her. Relationships are complicated. Victims can turn into perpetrators and many things can be true at once. Hugs to everyone dealing with DV, woman AND men both. NO ONE deserves to be abused. ❤stay blessed P.s. Gigi's channel is awesome. She is the only channel that I've seen, that actively offers her own personal help and resources for DV during her live streams. ❤ GiGi @PrettyLiesAndAlibis #PrettyLiesAndAlibis

[@RambleOn.]

Dan Markel's parents got a law passed in Florida> to allow custody/visitation for G.Parents when a parent is guilty/criminally responsible for death of the other parent. Sadly, it's been 10 yrs, & everyone in the conspiracy to kill Dan- OTHER than the ex-wife/mother-has been arrested, &/or tried, for his death. Grandma is on trial next month... hopefully, Wendi is arrested next, RIGHT after she gives testimony in her mother's trial!! They just need to get Wendi before she flees to that house her parents bought (& ALMOST made it to) in Vietnam...

[@MKConnecticut]

I’ve seen a couple trials (Karen Read, Apple River guy…Michelle Traconis) where I feel the jury wasn’t TOTALLY convinced of guilt so they went with a lesser charge. But actually..not being totally convinced IS REASONABLE DOUBT which should be NOT GUITY

[@Elizabethvaughan1]

Mandatory minimum 11.5 years max 30 years .

[@louiselanthier5135]

I have been attacked by people in the workplace, many times!

[@whatareuthinking1]

Six jurors five of them 70+ I guess some of their 80s went back at the room and said I don’t care what we vote but I need to go home

[@beachz101]

Another one goes in the history books. Thanks for covering the case!

[@debbieblair3329]

The state was absolutely brutal and aggressive. There was no reason for that, and I’ve heard attorneys say that there are some appealable issues, including the faults information that the prosecution gave in their rebuttal

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

the state was trying to convict a killer, and succeeded. that was reason enough to treat her like other killers.

[@Hadacattoo2]

I feel like the jury just wanted to go home, so they compromised and just picked manslaughter.

[@artwatch-y9j]

Killer belongs to prison!

[@Rachelstark27]

It made me sad. Whatever her faults, I believe she was an abused yet compliant spouse who was attacked and trapped in her bedroom by an angry, menacing man. She was terrified for her life . The evidence presented of a long term abusive relationship is strong.

[@Rachelstark27]

Nobody knows how hard it is to leave. If my ex knew I was leaving I probably wouldn't be here today, I had to flee when he wasn't around. There is so much more to this than people realize...

[@Rachelstark27]

@gigi thank you😊 his hand went into the wall when I ran. That hand was supposed to be on me

[@Fergie66813]

This what you get when you marry for Money after 13 Days.

[@Rachelstark27]

@@Fergie66813 wow

[@MrsJackson-tc6io]

Such a great panel! Thank you STS and dearest Gigi! And facts show that abuse gets worse over time, not BETTER. Hard stats.

[@royclark5426]

Dr. G keeps wanting to speak, but can’t get his thoughts in.

[@phoenixrising71715]

🤔 Strange to me how everyone seems to acknowledge Eva as a child, Shes the same age now as Ashley was when her 50 something daddy conned her. Doug Benefield is the one who married someone half his age and brought her into the home without ever having introduced them... Just months after her mother passed (and promising her he wasn't going to get a new wife, PER EVA) 🤬

[@BondJames-vz5wk]

uh, let's go to what Eva says she feels shall we, as opposed to speaking for her.

[@Bunnybella765]

Although I think the verdict was just, the prosecution did not go about this case in the sensitive way it should have been handled. 🤢I think it actually hurt their case with the jury.

[@potr6461]

I thought regarding the dog that it was an accidental collision? Nevertheless - I have to say this - If he was harming their animals because she was soooooo caring and it hurt her, then why was Sully with Doug through til the end of his life? Heaven knows where Sully is now? If he was abusing Sully and she was as caring as she claims, then Sully was as dependant upon her as any child and she should have taken Sully with her when she left to protect Sully.

[@potr6461]

Also regarding the "search: co-parenting with an abusive ex" how come she searched but did not put any of the suggested strategies into action. The common ones include - DOCUMENT everything - she only said what happened - no documentation; distance yourself and keep the relationship distant, impersonal and businesslike- she did the opposite; use co-parenting apps and official parental talk programs so that everything is on the record - she did neither; do not transfer custody directly but use third parties only - she insisted on going on custody trips. look them up.

[@janahertzberg6485]

Joshua well said. The prosecutors were aggressive and mocking her. They did try to embarrass her.

[@yvonnes2610]

I've been a victim of dv I've also watched a family member going through having access to his child but when he turned up he never got to see his child there was always an excuse for why he couldn't see his child both situations are sad but neither he or I would have

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

G money always says the right thing and in the best way possible. That silky southern accent certainly doesn't hurt! I'm sorry I missed this live. You really did get the best possible guests. All hail Meve Mohen!

[@lorigreen4134]

Not a fan of this one. It was a discussion of DV. This was a story of a dead man murdered by a manipulator and liar. She is NOT the face of DV.

[@LawProfJo]

????As I understand it, hers was a straight self defense defense. They initially broached DV but judge did not go for it. Am I wrong?

[@realhappy3346]

Correct, Judge has it clear over & over this is a self defense trial NOT a DV trial.

[@jeanninetraverse-healy5169]

Fantastic judge.

[@barbarabrown6002]

What trial are you talking about. What case?

[@jeanninetraverse-healy5169]

Think her hand flapping exhibition sealed it for me.

[@genkestrel7254]

What did you make of her writing on her notepad after the verdict was read? I wonder what she was writing.

[@mslizzy3772]

Thanks for scrolling the DV hotline …. Thanks be to God that I don’t have a need for it but I know others do!

[@robertawilkes6531]

As a ballerina she’s taught to not show emotion on stage so….

[@WriterProfessor]

Gigi-From reading the comments, I have to disagree with you that there is some sort of 50-50 type of split about this outcome. It seems like the majority who followed the evidence thought she was guilty, whereas there appears to be a small (if very vocal) minority that wanted her acquitted for reasons that were largely tangential to the trial. Anyway, that’s my take.

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

I hope this is overturned on appeal. I believed her and I feel sorry for her. I think she needs therapy. No one is going to benefit by her being convicted on this. He was abusive and her daughter needs her.

[@whatareuthinking1]

I think all but one of the juries was in their 70s or 80’s Expect they’re not gonna be night owl they’re gonna say whatever I’m going home. How do you introduce evidence in a closing and rebuttal that was never evidence or accepted and do it repeatedly I watch the entire trial. The only answer ive received is well the defense didn’t object 0:03 I thought lawyers couldn’t lie.

[@lizzyfabulous8367]

I thought the prosecutors were unprofessional. They sounded like they were spilling the tea in some ratchet narrative. I thought Ashley seemed genuine. I feel bad for all involved

[@Char_43]

@@lizzyfabulous8367 You are completely wrong.

[@MiaPuhar]

Lizzy, I agree. People acting like they know her personally or they were there to witness the scene.

[@karensholes7920]

They were professional.Harassment does not=murder

[@vlgroover]

If she was not telling the truth she ruins it for the one who went threw it

[@realhappy3346]

How did I miss this last night?! On Rewatch crew now.

[@whatareuthinking1]

A lot of appealable stuff from the judge saying he handled it well shows you didn’t watch😂

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

Yeah grotesque outcome

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

I'm wondering if jury and chat attitude is affected by the economy and political climate. People are looking for scapegoats and ways to vent their frustration? Bread & circuses. Wow.

[@vlgroover]

What do you thank about her mom and dad holding a sighn outside of the court house

[@PrettyLiesAndAlibis]

@@vlgroover It was her mom and 6-year-old daughter. Personally I wouldn’t do it.

[@artwatch-y9j]

Oh, come on Gigi, nothing to do with domestic violence at all!

[@Fergie66813]

These men on here are too Sensitive Tonight.

[@potr6461]

middle aged white men - why do they ALWAYS have the say?

[@Alaska-yg3uj]

Very sad. Poor woman.

[@LawProfJo]

????for josh. Are you comfortable with 6-person juries?

[@Rachelstark27]

Is this happening now

[@debbieblair3329]

The state was absolutely brutal and aggressive. There was no reason for that, and I’ve heard attorneys say that there are some appealable issues, including the faults information that the prosecution gave in their rebuttal

[@amymerber]

I hope so! This was not justice.