Livewire S2 Del Mar - Good Highway Commuter?

[@cbmecheng]

I picked mine up a couple days ago. Looking forward to exploring it more this weekend. I’ve been driving a 500e Fiat for several years. If you are familiar with driving a low range EV like the 500e I feel this style of riding is similar. Hwy speeds above 60 drain the Fiat battery much faster. Note, wind drag increases exponentially with velocity. I played with eco mode at lunch yesterday. Same as single pedal driving with strong regen in a Tesla. Keep in mind you will drastically reduce brake wear if you get use to this mode. I haven’t done brakes on my fiat and I’ve had it 5 years. I tried Sport Mode for the first time. Wow! It pulls hard and I gave up before the bike did. Anyway, thanks for the initial info. It’s helpful for a new owner. Cheers

[@MCCJustMotos]

I’m new to the EV world. Besides learning the EV ins and outs, I can tell you this bike is so tactile it’s really the best I’ve ever ridden. I think you’re really gonna love it. Have you ridden electric motorcycle before?

[@cbmecheng]

@@MCCJustMotos this was my first ride in an EV bike. I setup the deal (after the reservation call) then took a quick ride to be sure it was basically comfortable enough, then I pulled the trigger. Regarding charging, I'm curious to see how this pack holds up. I've charged my Fiat to 100% for years with no noticable degradation. I may do a 80 or 90% routine. My business is only 5 miles from home. I'm a mechanical engineer but excited about the new tech. I decided I likely couldn't build an EV bike without spend similar money.

[@MCCJustMotos]

I’m curios too! lol congratulations on your Del Mar!

[@saynomore5730]

I have a Sondors metacycle and it gives me good range but not perfect either I was hoping the Del Mar was going to be different and give me more range it does but not enough . I think I’m more attracted to fast torque it has I still want one so hopefully when I get tired of my metacycle I’ll trade up to one .

[@MCCJustMotos]

Yeah, it would be great if you could get even 20 more miles of normal driving.

[@hughmac7423]

Yes the Harley Davidson / Livewire navagation app is very faulty. Mine keeps showing MPH and I'm in a country with KPH and I've set it to that, but the stupid app keeps going back to MPH. For an "elite" bike this is not acceptable.

[@MCCJustMotos]

The Nav is my biggest annoyance too.

[@seansimpson2586]

You don't actually need the cable connected to phone. It works over bluetooth. The cable is just if you want to maintain battery charge on your phone.

[@MCCJustMotos]

I’ve had two Harley Davidson with this exact same navigation. You can have the navigation go over your Bluetooth and still hear it, but the map won’t show up unless you plug the cable in every single time. I’ve tested this thousands of times over 10k miles. At least not with my Apple Iphone. Cheers!

[@seansimpson2586]

@@MCCJustMotos map works fine for me on the del Mar over Bluetooth without cable. I'm on Android.

[@seansimpson2586]

@@MCCJustMotos I will say the one thing I wish it did was show the turn by turn nav icons on the other screens like home Speedo or music.. So you don't have to always ride with the nav page with full map up.

[@MasterBlasta]

@@MCCJustMotosMaps always worked with Iphones using bluetooth and the HD app. no cable needed. Used it on Pan America and Nightster

[@MCCJustMotos]

I’m wondering if it’s an android vs. Apple thing?

[@RedBatteryHead]

Weird it's not able to do navigation with phone in your jacket. Now it still needs an IP rated phone.

[@MCCJustMotos]

It will do nav turn by turn in my helmet and on my phone, but it won’t show up on the motorcycle display without the cable

[@RedBatteryHead]

@@MCCJustMotos I hoped it would. Since LW1 / ELW does Turn by turn on display.

[@obeii1805]

Horrible range for 15k .. we are talking 40 miles! An hr driving and how long to recharge that 40 miles hour fun time ? lol I’m a owner of e-bike and they are just not practical vehicles technology isn’t advanced enough.. the bike is a city bike but u don’t need to pay 15k to ride around town! There are nice e bike under 10k that can do that job very well .. the s2 is just a failure imo in its function ( not enjoyment )

[@MCCJustMotos]

I’m about 945 miles in now. My commutes range from 60-150 miles range. My highway range is averaging between 70-80 miles. Sometimes I can stretch that. It’s still not great. Full recharge is about 45 mins - 1:45. However I can get about 40 miles range in 25-35 mins. Not perfect, but okay. The biggest technical constraint on range for motorcycles is NOT battery size. It’s aerodynamics. Unlike the jellybean slick EV cars, motorcycles are way less aerodynamic and that kills range fast. For 955 miles its cost me about $7 total. It is NOT the best commuter ever, but it IS the best motorcycle drive experience. It’s so much fun. I guess some can buy a motorcycle the way the buy toaster and figure out the pure economical factors in buying, but hey even in that case 1000 miles for $7, not too shabby.

[@dburges5]

Lol, "liver wire"

[@MCCJustMotos]

Hahaha oops thaks for the catch!