Living with a Moto Guzzi V100 - Pros and Cons

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Blueyonder Moto

Blueyonder Moto

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@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 7 ай бұрын
5000+ miles and no real issues, I too had a small coolant leak that was fixed but re-torquing a clamp. The gear box gets better with a few miles put on it. The side stand & unintentional gear selection is an issue I have had with more bikes than I can remember. My bike is a V100S and my main gripe is with the totaly inadequate and poorly written owners manual. Only with much time frustration and large quantities of industrial language did I ( with much dealer assistance) get all the multi media tech working. Moto-Guzzi listen up ! The bike is superb but the manual is crap, it’s time for the tech geeks at the factory to produce a few KZbin videos to show your customers how to get the tech working. All in all the bike is superb and the handling so confidence inspiring that it has precipitated another problem, I keep grounding the ( optional ) centre stand when in full touring mode. Since I started biking in 1974 there are a few bikes I have kept because they are so much fun, I think the Guzzi will stay in the garage alongside the Triumph T160 trident and the street triple R as a bike that continues to reward.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Totally agree about the manual.
@markellott5620
@markellott5620 7 ай бұрын
The manual doesn't tell you how to fit and release the panniers, either. That took a bit of working out - along with that industrial language.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
@markellott5620 😀 I'm fluent in that too. The cases are not cheap either!
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Not cheap, but a superb way of fixing them to the bike
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
I re-read the multimedia part of the manual many times! Agree totally. Thanks for the mention of the center stand. I was thinking about installing one; probably won't now. My V100 S reminds me of my MG Daytona 1000 from 1993 in its torque and stability while taking curves. I loved that bike and this one seems to be a very much updated version of that one. Definitely a keeper.
@ianhawksworth9670
@ianhawksworth9670 7 ай бұрын
I bought the V100 immediately after a test ride just about UK launch date in December 2022. Love the looks, engine, handling and character, also the exclusivity you mentioned. Put 7500 miles on it it one year, got the panniers and top box and toured Northern Spain last June. It was a great bike and very comfy for touring. That's the good bits. The bad, I had the coolant leak problem and saw this on forums internationally, yet no recall? Was fixed under warranty after 3 complaints to my dealer. 4 hoses and 4 clamps (all modified versions) replaced so obviously a problem with original fittings. However, parts took over 2 weeks to arrive from Italy, it seems there isn't a UK parts network or accessories as the luggage and rack also took 4 weeks to arrive. This seems to be a Guzzi/Piaggio problem and I couldn't put up with my bike off the road for 3 weeks+ because of the time waiting for parts, it was a minor problem, what if was something major?! I heard about the rear shock/bushes problem on a forum, "potentially dangerous" fault that I was aware of 2 months before I got the recall notification. Not good enough Moto Guzzi! Traded it in for a BMW R1250 RS which in my opinion has more of everything in performance, handling and buid quality plus spares (if needed) are available in a day or 3. It's a shame as I love the look and character of not only the V100 but the Moto Guzzi brand, had a V7 Special too. More honesty and customer support/spares supply needed I think.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It's disappointing isn't it!
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
I'm beginning to think that if one owns a Guzzi, having at least one backup bike is a necessity. 😁
@daveramsay8887
@daveramsay8887 6 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful bike which I have followed since the rumours. However when looking at the specs and price I decided to keep my 10 year old R1200RS which has better features and performance than the Nelson. The V100 looks and sounds so much better. The same old "soul" bullshit in the review really peeves me.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
@I_am_Thursday Via Moto in Sheffield
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
@I_am_Thursday the screen works great for me but everyone is different and I know some V100 owners have fitted tall aftermarket screens. To me these ruin the aesthetic of the bike.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
I have about 950 miles on my V100 S. I just did the 1st service myself. Mine idles at around 12-1300 rpm. Yeah, Guzzi's always clunk into 1st gear, but I agree, you'd think it would be better after so many years. As for the side stand causing you to engage 1st gear, I've not had that issue. Boot size and shape may contribute to that. I know on my 1993 MG Daytona 1,000 that the side stand was so far forward that even if you were 200 centimeters tall, you could not deploy it without getting off of the bike! No leaking issues or anything else so far. I don't expect to have problems, actually. I've been very happy with Moto Guzzi over the years; maybe I've just been fortunate. As for parts replacements, Ducati has been much worse for me. Cheers from Colorado, USA.
@aluisious
@aluisious 6 ай бұрын
1300 is way too fast for a warm idle.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
@@aluisious yes, that’s start up
@c.g.c2067
@c.g.c2067 2 ай бұрын
Nice review, I agree on almost everything. I tested it a year ago and was very impressed by its engine, stability, handling, comfort and ergonomics. Its exquisitely well finished and the crank shaft and engine look amazing and are highly finished. Very elegant it really shines out of the crowd.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
And yet it retains that essential Guzziness.
@c.g.c2067
@c.g.c2067 2 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto good point actually
@SinnerSince1962
@SinnerSince1962 2 ай бұрын
The crank shaft? Do mean the drive shaft?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
Cam covers I think?
@c.g.c2067
@c.g.c2067 2 ай бұрын
@@SinnerSince1962 yes drive shaft 😅
@StockySnail
@StockySnail 7 ай бұрын
And the aero does work it's just for a very small part of the upper thigh/hip area to deflect air. Noticeable when it's cold. Not as useful otherwise.
@Robinbamv
@Robinbamv 7 ай бұрын
Also at 60-70 mph it keeps the rain off……. The problem is when you come to a standstill !
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop 7 ай бұрын
I like the feeling of a good clunk into first. That is one thing I really like about harley transmissions.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Like most things bike, it's what you are used to.
@kushsakhu
@kushsakhu 10 күн бұрын
I’ve been ironing one of these bikes to add to my collection because they look so stunning. Thank you for your in-depth review.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 10 күн бұрын
You're welcome.
@larryechols6606
@larryechols6606 7 ай бұрын
I love my V100S too! Fortunately, I haven’t experienced any of the problems that some owners have. I only have 2,730 miles on the bike and it’s value increases every time I ride it! No buyer’s remorse here! If there are any drawbacks with owning this motorcycle it’s the exclusivity and the limited number of dealerships here in the USA, but fortunately I do have an excellent dealership nearby, but that’s just not the case for everyone. I’ve only seen one other V100 in the wild, and that’s because I belong to a Moto Guzzi group that meets monthly. My dealership says that they have sold 10 V100s and that’s a lot. Good review!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Larry
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
I only have 950 miles on my V100 S. Few dealerships has always been the problem for MG in the USA. I'm currently in Southwest Colorado and closest would be Denver area. I purchased from a long time dealer in Prescott, Arizona and will have it serviced there. We're moving to St. George UT, so that's about a five and a half hour drive. I just did the 1st service myself.
@exeterrider
@exeterrider 2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed my ride on one, lovely bikes
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
They sure are.
@davidbarton7463
@davidbarton7463 5 ай бұрын
I took the opportunity of a test ride on the V100S and from the get go found it very easy to ride slow, I was impressed as my ride is a CBR400RR and is so much smaller and lighter, pulled the trigger straight away and have no regrets or problems as it approaches first service. It's a real looker and very capable. Not used my panniers yet nor gone any distance so have that to look forward too, having owned the Honda for 30 years which is a proper hooligan bike this feels very grown up.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
Had a CBR400RR myself 10 years ago. A great fun bike!
@andrewdyson4255
@andrewdyson4255 7 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video, I’ve an RT1250 and was very tempted by the V100. So much so I bought the V7 850 to really see what I thought of the Guzzi brand. I’m very pleased with the V7 so-much so that that I may replace with the RT with the V100 when the time comes.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Well great taste in bikes Andrew. The RT's are a class act too.
@kevindowell6003
@kevindowell6003 5 ай бұрын
I am in a similar position. I love my V7 Special, purchased to test out the brand. I am considering replacing my BMW K1200GT with the V100 and then doing a cafe racer conversion on the K.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
@@kevindowell6003 you'll love the V100!
@kevindowell6003
@kevindowell6003 5 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto I imagine so, in a year or two what I can squirrel away and the prices on a used one should overlap
@cmwilfred
@cmwilfred Ай бұрын
New Guzzisti 🙋🏽‍♂️ took delivery of “24 V100 Mandello S. love it. New rider as well, so popped my cherry with a Guzzi. 700kms in and no issues. Absolutely in love with it.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto Ай бұрын
Enjoy the bike.
@cmwilfred
@cmwilfred Ай бұрын
@ 🙏🏽 weather down here (Dubai,UAE) is beginning to cool down finally.
@Boksburg1982
@Boksburg1982 Ай бұрын
Wow 700 km and no issues! Absolutely amazing! ROTFL😂😂😂
@cmwilfred
@cmwilfred Ай бұрын
@ 1200 kms and no issues 😅 gone in for 1st service
@hughmac7423
@hughmac7423 7 ай бұрын
I have a HD Pan Am Special, 2022 model, Army Green version. I've had it since March 2023. If this bike had been out when I was looking for a new bike, then I would have one, but I still love the Pan Am, the power is ridiculous and it sounds fantastic with a V&H muffler. The tech is just amazing. I ride practically everyday, minimal problems. I use it as a sports tourer and commuter, not as an off road bike. My other bike is a 1988 Lowrider, hotted up now and with a sidecar, had it since 1989.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
I think the PanAm is very underrated here in the UK 🇬🇧. You can pick up a bargain on the used market. Does yours have the auto suspension lowering when you come to a halt?
@850eldorado
@850eldorado Ай бұрын
Interesting review. I have a 2023 V100s. Pluses: I would add braking a a plus as well. Seat and riding position is comfortable for long rides. Excellent looking , functional and easy to mount luggage Cons:; Front fender allows road debris to coat the motor. No tail rack. I had an Aprilia Futura that had a high rev at idle and a clunk when shifting from N-1st. My thoughts are that the clutch plates clearance is minimal. Add transmission fluid viscosity and you get a drag on the clutch. Viscosity is slightly higher especially when it is cold. The clunk is more pronounced. The hgih revs maybe so that the motor doesnt stall. Just my thoughts. I love this bike. I added crash guards, tail rack, pyramid frnt fender extender, heli bar risers. GPS mount, Laminar lip, I also acquired from Guzzitech a compact wheel hub nut tool that works on front and rear wheels. I am in the process of decating . Agostini big bore headers and I will upmap.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto Ай бұрын
Wow you've been busy!
@kaveiros75
@kaveiros75 7 ай бұрын
I test rode one a few months ago and fell in love ever since. I loved the excact same things you mentioned, with the order you mentioned them. (ok... maybe the handling and the not too much electronics are side by side for me). I test rode the new Ducati Monster the same day, and while the Ducati was outstandingly well set-up in terms of handling, the engine was boring to say, at least. On every mode! Probably to the too much electronics interference. On the contrary, the V100, although much heavier, was a joy every time I opened the throttle! I personally don't mind the "clunk" at all... but the only thing I did hate on that bike was the side stand, indeed.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It sounds like you need to buy it! 😜
@johnkirkby4959
@johnkirkby4959 7 ай бұрын
Your high idling / tick over would make the clunk into 1st gear much worse. 1,600 rpm at idle...
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Yes, John, a few people have said this.
@DustyVisorMotorcycles
@DustyVisorMotorcycles 7 ай бұрын
Does sounds awesome, I was up at Mandello last week and there were V100's everywhere....... Awesome roads around there too!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
What setting for a motorcycle factory.
@DustyVisorMotorcycles
@DustyVisorMotorcycles 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Indeed, Sat on the Promenade at Lecco last Sunday watching all the bikes, must have been 300 bikes parked up at lunchtime. Now back down under and it's 7 degrees today.😨 I'll be doing a video on my Mandello del Lario visit pretty soon. Cool spot to visit.
@richardsears5297
@richardsears5297 6 ай бұрын
Great review🥰The thing about horsepower, I think we've gone bonkers. I have a Supersport 950 with VVT and it's got real pull everywhere. The California Superbike school run BMW S1000RRs (not in full sport mode I think). I found my bike would slowly pull up on them on the long straight. Obviously at more then 120MPH or so I guess I would be left in BMW poo. However I was leading a twisty road ride recently with said BMW behind me. He was hell bent on staying with me but, once again, the Ducati was pulling away from the BMW out of the corners. So, 115HP especially with the fat torque, I would expect the Guzzi to be fast. Gorgeous bike. Unfortunately for me, my nearest dealer is 90 miles away, interstate miles, which I LOATHE so that's out otherwise I'd buy one.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
My nearest dealer is now 35 miles away. The supplying dealer has since ended their Piaggio franchise 😡
@karlbishop7481
@karlbishop7481 7 ай бұрын
I have had mine for a little over six months. The gearbox was absolutely awful at first but it is getting quite good after a couple of thousand miles. I am sure the high idle contributes to lurch going into gear. I've had a couple of Harleys so I am used to it. My biggest gripe is wind control or the lack of. I have experimented with different things and have found no solutions. I have found the cleanest air is with no windshield at all. Not a problem as I have mostly ridden naked bikes anyway. I need to devise something to clean up the looks though. I am surprised with all the reviews I have read and watched there no or very few mentions of how well the bike behaves at very slow speeds. It is like the bike drives itself. I love the bike. I have been a member of the new bike every two years club, my membership will now be revoked. 😂 This bike is that good.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Great stuff Karl. If you watch my 1000 miles review I do say how well balanced the bike is at walking speed in the city.
@karlbishop7481
@karlbishop7481 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto I will check it out. Thanks
@karlbishop7481
@karlbishop7481 6 ай бұрын
@I_am_Thursday I removed the windshield raising and lowering mechanism. Not hard to do. I then made a cover out of flexible plastic to cover the cavity. I am very happy with the result. Clean air at helmet level and a good reduction of wind pressure on the chest.
@joloevaa
@joloevaa 6 ай бұрын
The Griso 1200SE does not clunk into 1st gear. I purchased the Griso new in 2016. No issues and 56000km. A buddy purchased a V100 Mandello and complained about the 1st gear. It is an oil bathed clutch and not a dry plate clutch on the V100. That's the reason for the 1st clunk. No problem at all. My Suzuki has the same clunk at 1st gear, and so does all Hondas etc.. with the same clutch setup. I have not had any change to ride the V100 for a long journy, but when my beloved Griso is worn out.....
@m.f.m.67
@m.f.m.67 20 күн бұрын
Dry clutch on the Griso.
@ianfrancisledesma4431
@ianfrancisledesma4431 2 күн бұрын
My Yamaha R1 clunks a lot harder than my guzzi v7 special into first..go figure.
@andyyoung1274
@andyyoung1274 7 ай бұрын
Done 1100 miles on my V100, only issue so far is an oil sensor alarm that's now come up twice. Waiting for a new sensor under warranty
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Must have been an "omg moment" when the warning light first came on. Hope the warranty claim works for you.
@andyyoung1274
@andyyoung1274 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto it was a bit worrying at the time! Was straight out with the dipstick (why they can't just have a sighting glass...)
@r6ymy
@r6ymy 7 ай бұрын
I have 2,600 miles on my V100S so far. The tick over is stupidly high, but it settles down a bit after about 30-40 seconds each time I come to a standstill. No coolant leaks so far. What I do have is a droning resonance at about 3,500 and 4,500 revs, sometimes sounds a like a loose fuel tank. And I get a loud metallic clonk changing from first to second sometimes - not the drivetrain, sounds external, like part of the exhaust hitting something.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Everybody's V100 seems to have its own quirks, is that character or just annoying? I guess we will all have a different take on that. Hope the droning isn't spoiling the ride too much?!
@r6ymy
@r6ymy 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Well, it can be irritating. But in most other respects, I completely agree with you, it's absolutely fab. Handling, brakes, performance, looks - all amazing.
@gregrechesy4178
@gregrechesy4178 2 ай бұрын
Wait! You forgot your camera! Agree with you, great bike, love it. Nearly 10 000 km on it, no problem at all except a gasket on the clutch circuit which had to be changed (Moto Guzzi took care of it, shouldn't happen again...). Just thinking about a rear shock swap one of these days, the stock one is a bit stiff for my back. Cheers!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
Yes the rear shock does let it down a little. A bit harsh.
@johndiehardmclean23
@johndiehardmclean23 6 ай бұрын
Just like the last 3 digits of this bikes reg states Alan...VCM VERY COOL MOTORCYCLE! 😎✌️ After you bought this I fell in love with the Moto Guzzi V85TT,but through some reliability fears ,Aswell as reading about a customer waiting 12 months for a replacement spoked wheel,I bottled out & bought another GS! ✌️
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
I totally get that. I've had 2 GS' (the 1200 oil/air cooled bikes).
@cynicaldodgyknees6248
@cynicaldodgyknees6248 5 ай бұрын
Just the review I needed. As an older (70+) rider, I’m wondering about its practicality for long range touring. Anyone with actual experience to share?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
It depends how fit and flexible you are. The knee position is quite sporty but upper body fairly upright almost adv bike.
@cynicaldodgyknees6248
@cynicaldodgyknees6248 5 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermotoNice one. Thanks.👍
@SJC818
@SJC818 7 ай бұрын
Like your content , a bit raw and honest which we all like , to much absolute MCN etc etc all edited to perfection ! , i live/work in Saudi Arabia, i have a Harley davidson xg750a , a very understated bike and a proper pain in the arse to get in neutral , just different from the norm , just like the Guzzi . Iam however back in the UK next week for a month , and will be breaking my TT cherry , iam old !! taking my 98 blade , lets hope the weather is good 🎉
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
See you there. I'll be on my new Trident 660. (I don't trust the ferries with the V100).
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Part deux. My son is a very successful KZbinr (not bike related) and his mantra is content is king and simple is better. 360 cameras can be overused.
@SJC818
@SJC818 7 ай бұрын
Blade will be fine, once I've stripped the carbs , havnt ran it since oct , they don't like being left, especially with this shitty fuel ...see you in IOM give me a shout .
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
@@SJC818 I'm based in Castletown from mid practice week
@mariog4707
@mariog4707 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the excessive clunk when engaging first gear has anything to do with the high tick over speed?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It's possible, but I think it's a shaft drive thing. My R1200R also had a definite "clunk" ....though not as pronounced.
@SinnerSince1962
@SinnerSince1962 2 ай бұрын
I test rode an S model this past weekend, along with several other brand’s models, including BMW. By far my favorite was the V100. I seemed to become “one” with the bike immediately. It has stupendous handling, and that V-Twin grunt is addictive. It’s so satisfying to blip that throttle a couple of times when coming to a stop. I really liked the quick shifter and the TFT screen. I also noticed the RPM’s running higher than normal, at about 1600. I kept hoping it would slow down after the engine temp got up to snuff, but that wasn’t the case. I didn’t get to try out the electronics because MG gave me no run through beforehand. That was a bit disappointing. Would I buy one? Well, if the S model (the only one I’d own) were priced at the cost of the standard model, yes.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
If you shop around you may get one close to that price.
@victorparks5378
@victorparks5378 3 ай бұрын
I bought a new 2012 MG Norge (roller rocker head, thankfully!) in 2015 and have enjoyed this bike tremendously over the years. Very unique in my area (central NC, USA) and I've yet to meet another one on the road ...perhaps a bit too unique! This bike has been rock solid over the years, no problems at all, but my only gripe is that there is only one dealer in the entire state. That's a bummer and I do have concerns about long distance rides and the lack of dealers in my riding domain. The V100 is a beautiful bike ...no question there.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 3 ай бұрын
Hi Victor, most of my US viewers mention the lack of local dealerships as being an issue, not so much over here thankfully.
@danielefilippone7200
@danielefilippone7200 6 ай бұрын
I agree with the clunk when going into 1st gear. I do enjoy the ride and look. I got a big issue with the bike on my first ride. The engine was overheating. Guzzi had to replace the entire engine on a 100km bike. Took 4 weeks to fix, and it came to me scratched. I'm so upset. I'm now taking to Guzzi and dealer for a solution. Any experiences from Guzzi from others?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
That's a very disappointing experience.
@rosstinelli
@rosstinelli 7 ай бұрын
Tested this a few weeks ago. Id get the bike just for that engine! Absolute peach
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It's a real rider's bike.
@sorryociffer
@sorryociffer 5 ай бұрын
I road the V100 Mandela and Stelvio today while getting my 1250GS serviced… Loved both of them and it BAR NONE had the BEST sounding stock exhaust…
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I can't get enough of the sound it makes.
@stevedavies-pp7dp
@stevedavies-pp7dp 7 ай бұрын
It’s a pretty looking thing , having had sports bikes so obviously 4 cylinders for years I bought the Suzuki TL1000R new years ago and once I got used to riding a twin I found I really loved it … but after a few years I went back to Yamaha R1 and then BMW K1200s … but 170bhp today is too much and all it ever wanted to do was silly speeds so I looked at moto guzzi but ( I decided I didn’t want chain drive as liked the shaft ) and although I liked the guzzi I bought a R1200RS … but I must admit I often wonder what life with a guzzi is like ( it’s like an Italian BMW listening to you saying the different modes )
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It very much like a less clinical R1250RS. It has shaft drive too.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 5 ай бұрын
The thumbnail proves you look as good as ever, Kent.
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
Got my V100S last July, loving it so far. According to the manual, the idle speed is supposed to be 1400 rpm. I also get the mighty clunk going into first gear, but having some Harley experience it's not that shocking to me. 😀 Has your dealer informed you of the service campaign to replace seals in the clutch slave cylinder? I believe it came out around mid-March and applies to all Mandellos, not just specific VIN's. Cheers.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
No, I've heard nothing from the dealer about that. That's another shortcoming, the quality of aftershaves support from dealers.
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Neither my dealer nor Guzzi has told me either - I had to find out about this from an internet forum! Have your service dept. look for Technical Communication PSB71. Campaign Code PGJZZQ2302
@simonlangmead7
@simonlangmead7 7 ай бұрын
The 1,600 RPM idling speed is way too high for an engine that is fully warmed up, and that alone, with contribute to a clunky shift from neutral into first gear.
@fifthpint4571
@fifthpint4571 7 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought- the janky first gear is at least partly due to the high idle. It should be possible to check & set it in the ECU map somewhere. Could 1600rpm be the preset for sport mode maybe? My car has a higher idling speed in sport plus mode, for example. This should be configurable, I reckon and, in any case, it sounds way too high.
@MechanizedMedic
@MechanizedMedic 7 ай бұрын
I too prefer the lumpy idle of the air cooled engines. The V100 has to idle fast because of the high compression ratio and very light flywheel.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
@@MechanizedMedic My V100 S idles around 12-1300 rpm.
@MechanizedMedic
@MechanizedMedic 6 ай бұрын
@@greg9076 spec is 1600 and is controlled entirely by the ECU. Might want to get that looked at.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
@@MechanizedMedic mine is not that
@deusexmachinawl
@deusexmachinawl 8 күн бұрын
Great review what do you think about the kick that you get when you go in first gear.. it was quite a push forward.. I have got a v7 850 and it doesn’t do that at all.. I was surprised by the]at quirk
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 8 күн бұрын
Apparently all V100's and presumably the Stelvio also, do it. It does make me wince sometimes. The bike doesn't seem any the worse for it, I'm pleased to say. Thank you for your comment.
@raiderfan3737
@raiderfan3737 7 ай бұрын
Have a white one too (they’re the best, obviously) and agree every word of that review. It’s a stunning bike but, yes, that idling speed is surprisingly annoying. Thought it was just mine so thanks for putting my mind at rest!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
We aim to please 😁
@_JimS
@_JimS 5 ай бұрын
This is such a handsome bike. I still feel the Guzzi Norge needed cruise control and could be a reason it died. Loved that bike too. {'m from the States and never heard the term "ticking/tick over" . What does that mean? Congrats on your V100. If I ever get a new road bike this would be it.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
It's a bit of an old fashioned Brit term for idling speed. I'm old school you see 😂
@_JimS
@_JimS 5 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Thanks, me too. I watch a lot of Brit reviews and first time I ever heard the term. At first I was thinking maybe he means like a detonation issue like running too low an octane. Thanks..Cheers!
@MrBeracah
@MrBeracah 6 ай бұрын
Do you still have this bike and if so how many miles and when can we have an updated review from experience. Thks
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
Hi yes I do still have the V100. It's now done 2100 miles. Planning a further update towards the end of the summer.
@keithcolver9137
@keithcolver9137 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful bike mate and a great video 👍👍
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Keith
@hsv215i
@hsv215i Ай бұрын
The clunk into first gear has never bothered me, I upgraded from a Harley Davidson which has a more worse first gear clunk! I suspect the high idle speed is to minimise vibrations from that v-twin
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto Ай бұрын
Yes it's all about perspective and where you've come from on other bikes.
@williamhannas9342
@williamhannas9342 5 ай бұрын
You can get around the clunky neutral-to-first shift by downshifting before a stop, but then you're stuck at a traffic light holding the clutch in. My two big gripes: seat and heat. Even with the "comfort" seat, the contact point is the sensitive parts of one's male anatomy, not the posterior as God intended. Hope Russell Day-Long seats can solve this. As for engine heat, stay off it on hot days.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
Hot days not been very common this year over here 😁
@derekormerod8
@derekormerod8 2 ай бұрын
High tickover. I had a 1200 sport which was difficult to ride at junctions etc due to uneven power delivery at low revs. Not a problem with higher tickover ---but trade off is more pronounced clunk in first gear. All things considered I prefer the hard CLUNK
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
At least you know it's definitely in gear (unlike the V85TT!). It just makes me wince with mechanical sympathy.
@thepeakybiker
@thepeakybiker 7 ай бұрын
catching up on vids love that v100 looks so smart mukka
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
More than just skin deep Brian
@thepeakybiker
@thepeakybiker 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto sounds lovely too
@HaggisPower
@HaggisPower 7 ай бұрын
What happens when you don't keep the shiny side up? New engine covers or worse?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Potentially !
@TYPE1media
@TYPE1media 7 ай бұрын
By ticking over do you mean pinging? If so I suggest getting into the ecu via a usb adapter and use Guzzi Diag to change the CO trim a little bit.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Hi, no, I mean the engine idling speed.
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
"tickover" is the Brit's way of saying idle 😉
@TYPE1media
@TYPE1media 7 ай бұрын
@@kingkrimson8771 got it 😁 thanks for the slang! Lovely chinwag!
@tonydare7614
@tonydare7614 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I tested one a while back and absolutely loved it. As you say, no bike is perfect but I would guess this one comes pretty close and there aren't many other swiss army knife bikes with real character. Tested the R12 ninet and it was far more agricultural in first and second, then lovely above but has no wind protection. The only real con, here in France, is the stupid insurance price, more than any sports bike I've owned or even a Ducati Multistrada is far cheaper to insure. Is that the case in the UK too?
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
It I think when you come up for renewal you'll find the Multi has increased significantly in line with the V100 quote.
@tonydare7614
@tonydare7614 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto I paid 120 euros per month for a GS1250 and 80 for a Tuono 660. The cheapest I've found is 156 for the Mandello. I currently own a Livewire One and electric bikes are cheaper to insure. But I've had countless charging issues and other technical problems.
@greg9076
@greg9076 6 ай бұрын
@@tonydare7614 Wow, that's high for monthly insurance. Lucky here in Colorado, I'm paying about $50 per month for good coverage and it will drop to only $35 per month once we get relocated to Utah.
@tonydare7614
@tonydare7614 6 ай бұрын
@@greg9076 that's so cheap! Europe discourages vehicle ownership.. you can take it to Pikes peak 😎
@SusanWillan
@SusanWillan 4 ай бұрын
Just watched your video and the idling speed is way too high in my opinion iv owned the Guzzi Bellagio 940 and it was around 1100rpms when warm my FJR Yamaha 1300 is the same id be taking your bike back to be checked out sounds like you're into different brands and they wouldn't be up that high when warmed up it's a lovely well made Italian quality bike which im sure wasn't cheap good luck getting it sorted out love from Australia 🌏🦘
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 4 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for your comment. It's seems all the V100s idle at a higher than usual speed. My Trident like all the other bikes I've owned is at around 1100 to 1200 revs.
@richardsears5297
@richardsears5297 6 ай бұрын
I bet the "almighty clunk" is due to the high idle speed. Even my RC51 idles at 1100/1200. 1600 is 4 cylinder territory.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
It seems to be a characteristic if this bike.
@Peter-Alexander
@Peter-Alexander 7 ай бұрын
Hi Alan, loved the review. It's great to listen to you how you love this bike. It looks awsome. I guess Italians are the best in design and looks. Were you actually in Kings Lynn? Lovely place. I used to visit Norfolk a lot back in the eighties and nineties. Loved the Mundesley Golf Club.😊 Best regards.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
No, it's near a small village called Norton in Nottinghamshire.
@Peter-Alexander
@Peter-Alexander 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto Ah okay. Now doesn't that call for a Norton bike? 😁
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
@Peter-Alexander too pricey
@stevethackery9853
@stevethackery9853 2 ай бұрын
My V100S also idles at 1600rpm, and it REALLY bugs me. It's supposed to be controlled by the ECU, so I'm puzzled how it can be different between different bikes. The riding mode makes no difference to the idle speed. I also really dislike the BANG! into 1st. It gets better over time, but it can't be cured because the clutch works backwards compared to most bikes. The clutch runs at engine speed (the primary reduction and after the clutch), and the drive goes to the *centre* of the clutch, not the basket, as usual. This means the gearbox is driven by the much heavier basket. The basket has far more inertia than the centre, so when selecting 1st, the clutch basket and friction plates, spinning at 1600rpm, are slammed to an instant halt, making a far bigger lurch than a more traditional clutch layout. The high idle speed and clunky-as-f**k gearbox spoil the bike a bit for me.
@stevethackery9853
@stevethackery9853 2 ай бұрын
Sorry - the primary reduction *is* after the clutch (not "after").
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 2 ай бұрын
And me.
@peterkoning21
@peterkoning21 7 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of twins but I really like these V100;s
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Give one a try Peter.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 7 ай бұрын
Great video, very informative!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Thanks pistolpete
@gerryryan2302
@gerryryan2302 7 ай бұрын
its a beautiful bike
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Gerry, I have to agree.
@fernandomagalhaes2957
@fernandomagalhaes2957 7 ай бұрын
I am a 2003 Moto Guzzi owner, and I am not so enthousiastic about it. I feel no need or envy of so much tech , electronics and performance....and exclusivity. I have enought.😂
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Everybody wants something different from their bikes, which is why they are so diverse.
@johngoodlass
@johngoodlass 7 ай бұрын
Watch out for the exhaust shearing away from cheaply made collector box
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
That's a new one John.
@johngoodlass
@johngoodlass 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto it was a demonstrator with 2,970 miles on her, ive only had it a month
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
The problem is the spec of the mounting bolt, it's not nearly strong enough for the stress it's under. Some owners on the forum I frequent have had it fail three times!
@johngoodlass
@johngoodlass 7 ай бұрын
@@kingkrimson8771 Thank you i'll let my dealer know this
@StarsMarsRadio
@StarsMarsRadio 15 күн бұрын
It looks like an italian VFR. I want one.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 15 күн бұрын
A fair comparison
@stephenrangeley7815
@stephenrangeley7815 5 ай бұрын
V100s 600 miles on the engine, oil leak , rear output shaft failed, , as am an engineer I understand these things happen, having heard the horror stories on the forums was dreading getting it sorted, ….. Nope TEASDALES of Thirsk have gone beyond for me Jess the service manager first class and outstanding. Only thing I could do with is a longer rear hugger, any of you Guzights know of an aftermarket hugger let me know keep it up right and on 2
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 5 ай бұрын
Good to hear about the service you received. I've not had a similar experience with Via Moto. In fact with no warning they've dropped Moto Guzzi from their range.
@giovannigalli3182
@giovannigalli3182 7 ай бұрын
Assistenza post vendita é un grosso problema anche in Italia per le moto del gruppo piaggio
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
I dont speak Italian but fully understood your comment. Grazie.
@kingkrimson8771
@kingkrimson8771 7 ай бұрын
You think it's bad in Italy, imagine how bad it is for us overseas in North America! Parts can take months to arrive, if they're even in stock...
@MarkSDCA
@MarkSDCA 2 ай бұрын
My 1996 Honda Nighthawk 750 is a raw bike.
@porkchop2723
@porkchop2723 3 ай бұрын
If you’re idling at 1600 RPM it’s gonna cause that clunk into gear.
@DavidSimpsonSpecialForces
@DavidSimpsonSpecialForces 6 ай бұрын
The quick shifter is garbage, and making shifts from 1 - 2 almost useless!
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 6 ай бұрын
Other than 1 to 2 changes are slick on my bike.
@joeyb1853
@joeyb1853 3 ай бұрын
High Rev is probably Euro 4 nonsense.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 3 ай бұрын
I think so too.
@chrismurphy4724
@chrismurphy4724 2 ай бұрын
Surely 2023 is Euro 5
@joeyb1853
@joeyb1853 2 ай бұрын
@@chrismurphy4724 Even worse.
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop
@ChrisVanMiddelkoop 7 ай бұрын
I just see all pros really. lol.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
🙈🙉😂
@gdevelek
@gdevelek 7 ай бұрын
When I see backward-facing cameras on moto videos, I can't hit the "stop" button fast enough.
@blueyondermoto
@blueyondermoto 7 ай бұрын
Each to their own. Do you also do that when watching MotoGP?
@gdevelek
@gdevelek 7 ай бұрын
@@blueyondermoto In MotoGP the choice is not made by the riders. Therefore it's not an indication of ego-mania.
@greywolf9292
@greywolf9292 7 ай бұрын
@@gdevelek The use of backward facing cameras on Moto videos isn't related to ego-mania in the majority of motovlogs, rather it is to offer a different perspective to the viewer. Rear facing cameras are often now placed on the rear sub frame capturing a view of the rear wheel and the road behind the bike. Many viewers won't suffer a single forward facing camera for the full length of a video, others switch off as soon as they hear music. Whilst I admit there are some self gratifying characters in the community, most are actually slightly uncomfortable being in the spotlight. I take it you also have an aversion to portrait style shooting whilst presenting a video and relaying stats, spec and general thoughts. Since film making began cameras have always focused on the person speaking, to do otherwise would just look odd. Perhaps it's some insecurity within yourself which is clouding your view, most channel hosts I watch couldn't be more down to earth.
@gdevelek
@gdevelek 7 ай бұрын
@@greywolf9292 "some insecurity" within me? Oh, you're the cutest!!!!
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 6 ай бұрын
9,000 miles on V100S and no problems, zero. 50-52 MPG, no measurable oil consumption between oil intervals (never added any). Idle is 1200-1400 RPM in neutral. I'm light, 142 pounds, so the suspension is not working against enough! Still, it is very good. Tires are 10K +, maybe 11K, so that's better than expected. Cruise sometimes seems to fight my wishes to set and turn off or on. All I have is the normal stuff, clunk into first, NAV system is poor (no compass?) line-by-line instruction. Well, the bluetooth connection and NAV connection instructions are terribly explained. The dealer could not get it done, but I figured it out over time. Heat management is good but at a stop, the catalytic tosses up some real heat. Great bike overall. All I need are two good cylinders and I love the Guzzi arrangement for them, it is the most logical of the designs in my opinion. No real torque reaction I notice from the 1992 BMW R100RT, and that was pretty obvious.
@rustynuts82
@rustynuts82 7 ай бұрын
I love Moto Guzzi. But the styling doesn’t do it for me. Similar to the V85tt, just a bit odd. No doubt its an excellent ride and you would expect 100% reliability from a brand new high cost machine. The rear wheel is the nicest component, the engine is not good looking at all. Give me those air cooled barrels please!
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