Does Purgatory Exist?

[@Eric0873]

The point is that there isn't a Purgatory. There's no biblical support for it no matter how many verses Catholics want to twist. The very citing of it suggests that Christ payment for sin wasn't enough. That is cold hard heresy!

[@Darth_Vader258]

Eric0873 So God would send you to Hell for even a TINY miniscule SIN. Then God is NOT loving at all, that's why there is Purgatory because God is so LOVING, NO ONE is perfect when they die so God cleanses our sin in Purgatory, anyway I don't TRUST Protestants PRIVATE revelation and vision.

[@mrhighman01]

Darth Vader John 3:16-17

[@peteroliver7943]

Quite right their is no purgatory it's a false religion. During the time of the indulgence scandal In the 1500 s a monk borrowed a lot of money to pay for his ordination he had to pay the bank back .he toured the country with a salesman saying as soon as the coin in the coffer rings a soul from purgatory springs how sad how wicked only true faith in Jesus can a person be saved.

[@davidbermudez7704]

Hebrews 9:27 rebukes "The Purgatory" and "Reincarnation". After Jesus cried out nailed from the cross " It is FINISHED" nothing else can be added. Jesus paid ALL SINS past, present and future. No good works. No merits. No religious practices or prayers will get you into Heaven. No beating yourself with cactuses. No praying on your knees dragging yourself to Marian, Angelic or even Saints shrine will get you into Heaven. You're praying to demons! I don't care if you were baptized as an infant no water will EVER remove your sins. I don't care how many Masses you take that will NEVER remove your sins. You need Jesus precious shred blood to wash away your sin debt. In John 14:6 Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man cometh to the Father except BY ME". Only through Jesus you will be saved!

[@angieskidney]

I got a question: Why do we ask each other to pray for us instead of praying to God ourselves? Each other is not Jesus. We must pray directly to Jesus.

[@angieskidney]

Another question: Since Jesus took care of all our sins even in the future .. if a Christian murders someone .. it is okay because he is retroactively forgiven? Or even breaking any of the commandments... we are already forgiven so now we can do what ever we want to right? As long as we believe in Jesus we can do what ever now?

[@scottm4042]

@@angieskidney I can not tell if your serious, or just being sarcastic, but I will assume that you're serious. Though Jesus paid the debt for all of the sins of the world, the free gift still has to be appropriated to your account. How is this accomplished? By Grace through faith (from Ephesians 2:8, 9). Faith in the True Gospel as clearly stated in 1 Corinthians 15: 1 - 4 that Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and that He rose from the dead the third day according to the Scriptures. Generally, our approach to God about the Gospel is with humility and remorse over our sin, because it cost Jesus His life. Another passage from Romans 10:9, 10 says, "That if thou shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." If a person truely believes, he will follow God's will. There are people that are false converts, who say they believe, but their life shows that they only spoke the words, but didn't believe in their heart. I John 2 is kind of a test to see if a person truely believes. It gives characteristics that follow one who believes, like if we know Him, we will keep His commandments, etc. But, we don't do this to be saved, but because of our gratitude for His love toward us. I hope this helps. God bless!

[@apersonfoundinyeshua529]

Amen

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

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[@LoneWolfSonata]

Discussion on purgatory starts at 17:40

[@bettergetdave]

You are doing God's work my friend!

[@dr.zoidberg5096]

Lolol i love yall, yall laughing and joking around is so refreshing. I dearly hope to have friends like yall one day.

[@gison8405]

I love you guys and highly recommend your channel to others. Great content, humility and understanding between one another, as well as to those those who are perishing, and or reviling !

[@cat9x]

question discussed at 17:30

[@stevemercado9445]

cat9x thank you 😂

[@janenganga1751]

Thank you. They take forever to get to the point.

[@JoAsia7264]

GOD bless you! Thank you, the Living Waters-Staff :)

[@rosemorris8481]

I thought when I was young that purgatory was an old name for hell. Not sure. But there is NO other place to go but heaven or hell.

[@triciaperry2234]

Amen. This is another reason why they are a damned doctrine of DEMONS. Yet they say Jesus started this farce. Run!!!

[@bridgefin]

That's not scriptural. Matt 12:32: "And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." In Heaven there is no sin to forgive and no sin in Hell is forgiven. There must be another place in the age to come where sin is forgiven. And that dovetails well with purgatory.

[@Sarah-qz4bq]

Enjoying these videos about Catholicism!!

[@gussalazar449]

Another difference between bible based Christians and Catholics is regarding conversion. The Catholic church teaches that we are called to live in a permanent state of conversion in the understanding that as life unfolds we continue to sin, so conversion is long and progressive whereas bible based Christians believe in miraculous conversions like Saint Paul falling off his horse and to never sin again. Now, if a Catholic dies in communion with God, but he is still undergoing his conversion process (because he has not yet mastered his lower passions for instance) then he may go to Purgatory. Indeed Jesus paid the penalty but we as sinners still have to enter the narrow door. Our Lord says: struggle and fight to enter through the narrow door, in other words, He opened the door but we still have to go through it. I hope this helps understand this subject.

[@adelalax3553]

Wow! That is so sad to hear about the students, and it surprises me even more when something happens to one of them and they say !why,, me!! Really you have to ask? May the Lord have mercy on their souls 😢🥰

[@Eric0873]

I agree. Obedience of the commandments comes when we're grateful for what we've already been forgiven of when we repent and trust in Christ alone. Any future sins we fall into should be asked forgiveness for. I just don't want anyone to think that they can maintain their salvation when they didn't initiate it to begin with.

[@MamaKalash]

13:52. Corrie Ten Boom is one of the most influential Christians within the past 90+ years, throughout the world. You can still watch her YWAM teaching videos on YT. She was only off in one area of Bible Truths, and that's with the Rapture event. She did not believe in the Biblical Pre-Tribulational Rapture event, though there are so many Bible passages that make it clear that there will be. She was right-on, though. with the Gospel of Christ and Christian living.

[@bridgefin]

YOUR rapture doctrine was invented in 1853 in the United States. It was unheard of before that. There will be a second coming of Jesus, not a third. And you would be more correct to claim Ten Boom as an influential Protestant as there were far more influential Catholic Christians over the same period.

[@Eric0873]

Joe, you're reading Caltholic dogma and tradition into the text. 1) ALL sins are forgiven for those who repent and put their trust in Christ alone by faith alone. 2) Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is commited by those who know the truth and yet reject Christ anyway. Purgatory is not an option.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

But what about Christians who are good but not perfect? According to Revelation 21:27 only the perfect can go to Heaven. Christians who are good but not perfect can be saved, but yet as by fire, the fire of Purgatory, says 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.

[@HisWordisLife4U]

Does Purgatory exist? No. The Bible says in Hebrews 9:27 : And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (KJV) So, no reincarnation either.

[@bridgefin]

And the judgment could be "you are saved but you need a bit of cleaning up before you can enter." We're going to do some Malachi 3 purification and then you will enter into glory.

[@carlosmendoza1356]

@@bridgefin God does not work like that buddy

[@bridgefin]

@@carlosmendoza1356 He said he does in Malachi. He also says that nothing impure enters Heaven. So we are all doomed or else those who chose God but have some minor impurities still can be cleansed so the CAN enter Heaven.

[@triciaperry2234]

@@bridgefin IDIOT still refuse the truth. This is why you are DAMNED HOLDING AND LOVING LIES.🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@GergKowvit]

How does an administration allow an atheist into a Christian university? Here we go. We're all God's children. The harder they fall the more likely to listen later. Well done Ray.

[@melanierabe8794]

The point is just because you have never heard something, do not believe it , or don't understand it does not change the truth

[@bigzack1011]

John 6:28-29 New International Version (NIV) 28 Then they asked him, ("JESUS") “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” John 6:28-29 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE) 28 Then they said to him, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” Are you doing Enough to keep your salvation?

[@bigzack1011]

Does Purgatory Exist? A: NO!

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

Yes it does.

[@jimmyneutron1295]

Madeline McNicholas So you deny Christ’s sacrifice. Christ took the full punishment for our sins. There is no purgatory.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@jimmyneutron1295 Jesus took the punishment for our sins, only if we repent of our sins. All Christians have repented of the big sins, otherwise they wouldn't be true Christians. But most of us have not repented of all our small sins. Most of us don't even know what they all are. That's why there's Purgatory. See 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.

[@jimmyneutron1295]

George Penton that verse is referring to your works, your works will be passed through the fire and if your works are with good intention they will pass, but if they are with bad intention, they will not pass. Go to ‘got questions’ on the Internet and go to their browser and search up does purgatory exist. And click the first link that comes up.

[@jimmyneutron1295]

George Penton “For he who has died is freed from sin” Romans 6:7 NASB. If purgatory existed it would be contrary to this verse and if you read on it affirms my position.

[@melanierabe8794]

Prodestants are twisting the bible scripture not catholics. You will fnd out somw day soon. The catholic church is the body of christ. You dont have to understand or like something. But if you truely lived god and knew theee truths youd see its beauty. Theres a lot more to god then you know and understood. You can not limit god. He can do what he wants and how he wants for or salvation

[@charlielee7856]

Ray can you do a video about grugs addiction and being a Christian struggling with heroin

[@melanierabe8794]

Purgatory is a good thing a blessing form god so we cam be renewed for heaven. Y0u think us sinful people can enter heaven. Tou do not understand gods holiness

[@boughtwithblood7]

@ Joe Mommuh cont'd... James is describing the difference between an intellectual ascension (head knowledge), and saving faith (which will produce good works). True saving faith is TRUSTING God, not simply believing (head knowlege).

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

And true saving faith requires good works of charity. You're on the right track, Baughtwithblood. Faith without works is dead. Faith in Jesus means faith in everything Jesus taught, and Jesus specifically taught at Matthew 25:31-46 that good works are mandatory for salvation.

[@thesilverchair56]

No Christian we know of even attempts to deny this text speaks of the judgment of God where the works of the faithful will be tested after death. It says our works will go through “fire,” figuratively speaking. In Scripture, “fire” is used metaphorically in two ways: as a purifying agent (Mal 3:2-3, Mt 3:11, Mk 9:49) and as that which consumes (Mt 3:12, 2 Thess 1:7-8).

[@lizwinters7062]

Loved "180" thank you!!

[@Eric0873]

Please do elaborate upon how there can be no Biblical God....considering the many factors within the scientific fields?

[@davidbermudez7704]

Not even Francis himself knows how many Masses it takes to free the Catholic souls from the imaginary Purgatory

[@Nadef403]

David Bermudez you’re so wrong about what you think the Catholic Church teaches, purgatory IS in the Bible, some Christians just want to ignore it because they don’t wanna accept it, because they want everything free and easy and on their convenience, but it does not work like that, it’s not what we or other thinks, is about what God has said, he left his church on earth in the hands of Peter, and the pope is the successor of Peter on earth. Jesus Christ died in the cross so we could go to heaven because we couldn’t before, that’s what he died, his blood and dead was the price, when we sin and we repent and confess our sins WE ARE FORGIVEN because of Jesus death in the cross, BUT As we know God is all merciful but he is also just, and we have to clean our souls from the sins we made even tho we are already forgiven and will go to heaven, because NO ONE can get into heaven if our soul isn’t holy and pure, and the way to clean it is passing through purgatory, and here’s where In the Bible says it: Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny (Matthew 5:25-26). That prison it talks about where the judge (God) will send you until you pay the last penny is the purgatory. Another verse: For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire. I Corinthians 3:11-15 No Christian sect I know of even attempts to deny this text speaks of the judgment of God where the works of the faithful will be tested after death. It says our works will go through “fire,” figuratively speaking. In Scripture, “fire” is used metaphorically in two ways: as a purifying agent (Mal. 3:2-3; Matt. 3:11; Mark 9:49); and as that which consumes (Matt. 3:12; 2 Thess. 1:7-8). So it is a fitting symbol here for God’s judgment. Some of the “works” represented are being burned up and some are being purified. These works survive or burn according to their essential “quality” (Gr. hopoiov - of what sort). What is being referred to cannot be heaven because there are imperfections that need to be “burned up” (see again, Rev. 21:27, Hab. 1:13). It cannot be hell because souls are being saved. So what is it? The Protestant calls it “the Judgment” and we Catholics agree. We Catholics simply specify the part of the judgment of the saved where imperfections are purged as “Purgatory.” And There’s more, they’re not my words or any other catholic words, they are GOD’S WORDS, and if someone denies it then they don’t believe in God’s words. I hope you find the truth. God bless you.

[@sandina2cents779]

Caro Estrada and yet not one of those verses have anything to do with Purgatory. One talks about your works being burned not your soul or body and the other ones talk about judgment on this earth not after death. There is no scripture whatsoever that talks about purgatory after death. All lies.

[@sandina2cents779]

David, so true. Maybe someday he’ll make up a number out of thin air, like half of the other believes in Catholicism.

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

@@sandina2cents779 If not in you (your soul), wherein do your works reside? Where does it say Judgement on earth? Is that YOUR interpretation? Jesus gave us His Church to interpret His Wisdom for us. One Church, One Wisdom, One God.

[@sandina2cents779]

Madeline McNicholas you didn’t read the scripture verses. It’s not my interpretation, it doesn’t need any interpretation. At least 80% of the Bible needs no interpretation.

[@davidbermudez7704]

I would like for ANY Roman Catholic here to show me one verse from the New Testament from Matthew to Revelation teaches about the Purgatory

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Sure, Matthew, 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, Matthew 5:25-26, and Luke 12:58-59 all show that Purgatory exists. But why do you believe in the Bible when you don't believe in the Catholic Church? Don't you know it was the Catholic Church that put the Bible together in the first place, at the Council of Hippo, 393 a.d.? It is only by the infallible teaching authority of the Catholic Church that we know that the Bible IS the Bible.

[@sandina2cents779]

George Penton Not one of those verses have anything to do with Purgatory. First Corinthians has to do with your works burning up not your soul or body, Matthew has to do with a judge on this planet giving you his judgment and so does Luke. None of these have anything to do with purgatory or with your soul burning to become purified. Nice try, not really.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@sandina2cents779 All three of these are direct references to Purgatory, and the Church Fathers (Christian writers in tge first few centuries) recognized them as such. I Corinthians 3:13-15 is particularly clear----some will be able to get to Heaven, but only as by fire. 2 Maccabees 12:43-46 is also a reference to Purgatory. Thank God for Purgatory. Otherwise only perfect people could go to Heaven (Revelation 21:27).

[@sandina2cents779]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh reread those passages really slowly. They have nothing to do with purgatory. It talks about burning up the works not the people. The apostles never said anything about purgatory. When Jesus told the story of Lazarus and the rich man, that would have been the spot to put it and yet not a word. Why? Because it's an idea of the imagination of the Catholic Church put in place 4 control and money making scheme. In Maccabees is not recognized by the Jew as the Hebrew law or a part of the old testament. The Jews reject the Apocrypha books, Jesus never told them to accept them and so we should also reject them as Cannon.

[@sandina2cents779]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh and I got news for you as you say thank God for purgatory, if it were a real thing then everybody would be stuck there forever. There is no amount of purification that can pay for the sins that we have committed against the holy God. We will never ever be holy enough to enter Heaven on our own. If that was the case then Jesus came and died in vain because we could just sit in purgatory longer and eventually get to heaven. You're telling me that he did that just to lessen our time in purgatory a little? That is absolutely not what scripture teaches. You have a false gospel. Read scripture and it will change everything.

[@bigzack1011]

Problems with the Doctrine of Purgatory. As a Christian who bases spiritual truth on the Bible alone, I see problems with the doctrine of purgatory. For example: 1) It is not explicitly found in the Bible. 2) It implies that the righteousness of Christ does not cleanse from all sin. 3) It implies that justification is not by faith alone. 4) It implies that there is something we must do in order 2 be cleansed of sin.How long would U B in 4, a few hours to millions of years?

[@adelalax3553]

God bless you living waters Asia. Yaaay!

[@Nicodermus4Life]

I wish they would actually refute Catholic arguments for Purgatory, they mention none and simply assert as self-evident it doesn't exist.

[@davidbermudez7704]

Nicodermus4Life Show me one verse in the New Testament that teaches on the Purgatory

[@tatoogap]

we are to be like Christ, not like the world. we love the world so much we fall for the first lie that makes us feel good. we as christians must follow our lord Jesus,not the world that hates us for being christians.

[@sidthemyth]

teachings of the catholic church are blasphemous

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

The teachings of the Catholic Church were unchanged and around for 1500 years before they became "blasphemous". So, are you saying that God abandoned His Church for 1500 years then gave us multiple thousands of other churches with multiple thousands of other doctrines to clear up all the falsehoods consistently -from the Apostles- taught by the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church?

[@stevenkolata2738]

Sid, why do you bear false witness, You believe lies and further spread them, prayers for your true understanding

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

If the teachings of the Catholic Church are blasphemous then the teachings of Jesus are blasphemous, because the teachings of the Catholic Church and the teachings of Jesus are one and the same. The teachings of Martin Luther? That we can sin boldly and still go to Heaven, so long as we believe in Christ? That Christ fornicate with the woman at the well, Mary Magdalene, and the woman taken in adultery? That the ten commandments are stupid? Yes, Luther said all of these things. It is Protestantism, not Catholicism, that is truly blasphemous.

[@sidthemyth]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh i dont know if luther said all those things. it does not matter. follow Jesus! i dont remember why i commented 7 years ago. but it is obvious, no discussion. catholicism is not what Jesus taught! if you guys are proud and cant admit that... your trouble is not with me...

[@sidthemyth]

@@stevenkolata2738 you blindly follow blind men...

[@dustinbrandel59]

People often forget that many other people were reserected along with him. He brought other dead people back to life with him. That was a huge part of Jerusalem people accepting Jesus's teachings. The ones who did, that is.

[@lolambatia14]

Also, Mark 7:9 Indeed,” he said to them, “you have made a fine art of departing from God’s command in order to keep your tradition! And Paul states in Colossians 2:8 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

It is Protestantism, not Catholicism, that has man-made traditions. Some Catholic doctrines are handed by word of mouth only ("Tradition") but these are not man-made traditions, these are the teachings of Christ. See 2 Thessalonians 2:15.

[@bigzack1011]

(2) It teaches that even though the person is justified by faith and cannot face damnation, his works will, however, be judged on "that day." Those works which are good will survive the fires of judgment the way gold, silver, and precious stones can survive fire. But false works will be consumed the way fire consumes wood, hay, and straw. What is left has no bearing on whether or not we are saved. It has to do with rewards in heaven.

[@boughtwithblood7]

@ Joe Mommuh Again, read the context. Actually, I'll read it for you. "Was not Abraham our Father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that FAITH was working with his works, and as a result of the works, FAITH WAS PERFECTED; and the scripture was fulfilled which says, ' And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,' and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone." Ja 2:21-24 cont..

[@tatoogap]

jesus said, It is finished, his blood is all we need,jesus was the lamb that was killed because of my sin,your sin.all we need to do is to go to Jesus,now we as christians do not just jump in to sin we fall into sin.

[@droptozro]

Revelation 17-18 says the RCC is the mother of harlots... and to get out of her.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Revelation 17:18 says no such thing.

[@sandina2cents779]

Rev. 18:4 yep

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh They make up their own interpretations to suit their narrative yet tell us the interpretation of the Church is wrong. So I guess the 2000 year old One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church is all wrong and the 500 year old Church of the day is all right.

[@jimmyneutron1295]

Discussion on purgatory beguine on 17:35

[@bridgefin]

Thank you. I had given up.

[@jimmyneutron1295]

Bridgefin No problem

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

@@bridgefin Are you looking forward to being tormented in the flames of purgatory , or are you not concerned knowing its all hokum , and just to keep the cattle under control ? I’d be worried about the flames of hellfire , where the dissemblers and false teachers go , if I were you ! Praise the Lord , I’m not you , because I’m going straight to heaven to be with my Lord and Saviour , Jesus Christ , when He calls me home !

[@bridgefin]

@@malcolmscrivener8750 There's suffering in the process of purification but not torment. One knows he is saved and has to do there what he did not do while in the flesh. God gave us a hint on how he purifies in Malachi and it included suffering. But I know I won't be abandoned by family, friends, and the church which will be praying for my release. I'm surprised that you are so flippant about hellfire as if you aren't a false teacher. Jesus established only one church and you take joy in attacking it even though he said he would never leave it. So you enjoy attacking Jesus and think you are just going to waltz your way into Heaven? I suggest you get real.

[@malcolmscrivener8750]

@@bridgefin Is that what you think ? That I think I’m just going to waltz my way into heaven ? You must have no idea of what has happened to me , for me to be telling all and sundry , that the Lord Jesus Christ is my Saviour , and the instant He calls me home , by ending my life here , I will be present with Him in heaven for ever . Jesus died for me on the cross and paid with His suffering and life . ALL the punishment that I deserved . Let me tell you what happened to me . I was serving time in prison for cultivating 1500 marijuana plants ,when an old Christian missionary shared the Gospel with me , and by the grace of God , I believed , and trusted the Lord Jesus for my forgiveness and salvation . That was in the late 70s . Life carried me along , but long story short , through thick and thin , the Lord has been with me every step of the way . The point is , Jesus has sustained me and given me the absolute assurance of eternal life . This is personal and believe me , this IS real . Why else do you think I spend my time on U Tube comments , striving and pleading for the Lords people , whom He will save ? Out of gratitude and thankfulness , and for no other reason . I don’t want to see anyone other than satan and his fallen angels in the lake of fire . The older I become , the more clearly I see sinfulness around me , so I feel a stronger need to warn people of their danger . Now , we both know there is no Biblical evidence for purgatory . You mention “a hint “ in Malachi but your only support is in Maccabees which was only added by C of Trent in 1546 and is not accepted in the Canon . By believing in this flimsy doctrine you are denying the sufficiency of the Lords sacrifice to save His elect . There is nothing you can do by suffering , or paying for your sins in some way , to earn your atonement before Almighty God ! We are sinful in Gods sight and all our righteousness is as filthy rags . We cannot bribe the judge . Therefore , by your beliefs , I know you have not been born again , and are unsaved ! You are not trusting in Jesus to save you , and are still lost in your trespasses and sins . If you were to die this night , as purgatory doesn’t exist , you would go to hell to await your judgement , and then be thrown into the firey lake , all by yourself for eternal torment and remorse . I take this extremely seriously , and am doing my best to warn you in love , in Jesus’ name .

[@childofthecreatorgod9962]

Emeal, @1:05, when pointing at Ray, with your right hand, it looks like you are giving him the El Diablo, Satanic curse with the devil horn hand sign (Index and pinkie fingers raised and middle fingers held down with the thumb). Please be careful with pointing gestures.

[@bigzack1011]

(1) The context speaks of Paul having planted the Corinthian church and that another person was building upon that work: verse 6 says, "I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth." Paul goes on 2 say that unless a person builds upon the foundation of Jesus, his work will B burned up the in the day of judgment (v. 13).1 Cor. 3:15 does not teach purgatory as a place we go to in order to have some of our sins cleansed from us.It teaches

[@bigzack1011]

Ephesians 1:11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, God Bless :-)

[@thesilverchair56]

Surely you agree that Jesus is not bound by anything. Grace and Peace to you bigzack1011.

[@Eric0873]

So Christ has NOT paid for out future sins? No, I don't want to go on in willful sin, but as corrupted as we are still growing in sanctification I'm still going to fall into sin. What, then, does one do for those future sins? Salvation will still be by grace alone, through faith alone in Jesus alone. All sins are forgiven; past, present and future.

[@lolambatia14]

Catholics REALLY.. I mean REALLY prove the truth in Jesus' words of Mark 7:13 - Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of God's word... Man must be in control.

[@AnitaD28]

1 Corinthians 3:13-15

[@jimmyneutron1295]

Anita Luca It’s talking about works when the judgement is taking place, not the person, if God wanted us to believe in purgatory He would have maid it much more clear, stop twisting scripture to fit your doctrine.

[@Eric0873]

Joe, I'm not against traditions or any order of beliefs found in statements of faith or confessions, but those traditions and such need to be biblically informed. And you're right, there are alot of denominations in Protestantism, but only b/c of secondary, non-essential issues. Purgatory is in infringement upon Biblical Soteriology which is an essential of the Christian faith. If Christ died for the sins of the world, yet one needs purgatory to be fully cleansed of sin then what's the Cross 4?

[@thesilverchair56]

So it is a fitting symbol here for God’s judgment. Some of the “works” represented are being burned up and some are being purified. These works survive or burn according to their essential “quality” (Gk. hopoiov, “of what sort”).

[@DevoutPatriot]

Hey, I'm sorry, I asked this question on another one of these videos but no one answered it. I'd really like some insight on this. When your species makes First Contact in a few decades, will you people still be adamant about your Deity? How is will that event affect your religion or faith? (Just to be clear, I mean no disrespect whatsoever. I'm just really curious).

[@jamesmark1721]

The moment I read the title I thought "what no" then heard why it was asked haha.

[@boughtwithblood7]

@ nickyooo11 What is Jesus talking about in Matthew 7:21? He just finished speaking about fruits (vv. 17-20). So doing the will of the Father means having faith that WILL produce righteous fruit. Read John 6:40. What is the will of the Father? Does it say " Who ever beholds the Son and believes in Him AND does good works will have eternal life?" No, it doesn't. We are saved by faith alone. Good works are simply a natural byproduct of true faith. Why aren't you understanding that?

[@thesilverchair56]

bigzack1011 - no not everyone will go to Purgatory. Many will go directly to hell. If you are right.... then I have nothing to fear. I will go to be with the Lord too. If I am right.... you will spending time in Purgatory (with me I am sure). Grace and Peace to you!

[@melanierabe8794]

Its not torments like physical . You dont even understand. Its longing to be with god. Its not frightening

[@RolyB5]

Council of Carthage declared this translation as "the infallible and authentic Bible." Jerome was the first to describe the extra 7 Old Testament books as the "Apocrypha" (doubtful authenticity). Needless to say, Jerome's Latin Vulgate did not include the Apocrypha.

[@sandina2cents779]

The Jewish people never recognized the apocryphal books as part of the Hebrew Bible.

[@RolyB5]

Jerome vigorously resisted including the Apocrypha in his Latin Vulgate Version (400 AD), but was overruled. As a result, the standard Roman Catholic Bible throughout the medieval period contained it. Thus, it gradually came to be revered by the average clergyman. Still, many medieval Catholic scholars realized that it was not inspired. Pope Damasus (366-384) authorized Jerome to translate the Latin Vulgate. The

[@danielmoore4849]

..cont'd.. " what use is it, my bretheren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can THAT faith save him?" Ja 2:14 (emphasis added). James is describing an outward faith, not a saving faith. James appeals to Abraham who " believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness". The work that James said justified Abraham was his offering up of Isaac ( Ge 12:1-7, 12), An event that occured many years after he exercised faith and was declared righteous before God (Ge 12:1-7,15:6).

[@melanierabe8794]

Yes there is purgatory Nothing unclean may enter heaven. Must stay until last penny is paid. Jesus has shown some saints purgatory. The Bible never anywhere say bible alone like you people go by. It actually says hold steadfast the traditions that I have left you , both written and oral. Written is bible. Oral is handed down by the apostles. You do nit know church history at all

[@lolambatia14]

Well, first of all, the canon of Scripture began to form in the very days the Bible was being written, before the Roman Catholic church was even in existence. We can see this in the gospel of Luke within only a FEW YEARS of its writing (1 Timothy quotes Luke 10:7). Paul's writings were also recognized as scripture during his own day (2 Peter 3:16; 1 Corinthians 14:37; 1 Thessalonians 2:13). It is a perfect GOD who determines the canon not mere imperfect humans....

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

My dear Rosalee, in the very days the Bible was being written, the ONLY Church that WAS in existence was the Catholic Church.

[@ACyrrock004]

I love Mark's response concerning grace @ 22:15-23:29

[@Eric0873]

Do you even know what scientific evidence is? Do you subscribe to the scientific method? If so, then you would start without the presupposition of "no god" and go from there. You can't quantitatively say there is "no" God. Do you possess all knowledge? Have you taken the time to search all the criteria for God? You may not WANT there to be a God, but that doesn't mean He doesn't or even can't exist.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

"The fool saith in his heart, there is no God."

[@dowill4794]

Hallelujah!

[@thesilverchair56]

What is being referred to cannot be heaven because there are imperfections that need to be “burned up” (see Hb 1:13, Rv 21:27). It cannot be hell because souls are being saved. So what is it? Protestants call it “the Judgment,” and we Catholics agree. Catholics simply specify the part of the judgment of the saved where imperfections are purged as purgatory. Grace and Peace to you!

[@bigzack1011]

Mark 9:49 King James Version (KJV) 49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt. thesilverchair56 Will EVERY ONE go to Purgatory ? Philippians 1:21-23 21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better When I Die, I will be with My Lord and Saviour Who Loves me, No time in the imaginary Purgatory :-)

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Thank God for Purgatory. Without Purgatory only perfect people would go to Heaven (Revelation 21:27).

[@cameronroberts11]

I don't think I believe in porgutory

[@bridgefin]

You will if you go there.

[@joemommuh2565]

Well, the Catholic church first assembled the Bible. When Martin Luther threw the books out that he didn't like, I guess that wasn't the imperfectness of man, THAT was inspired by God. The Catechism simply states what the Church's teachings are clearly, so as to be easy to reference. It is not a Holy Scripture, so don't compare it with the Bible. (Everything in the Catechism is derived directly from Bible verses anyway).

[@sandina2cents779]

Joe Mommuh Martin Luther didn’t throw the books out, the Jews never recognize them as canon, so it would be the Jews before Jesus birth and during Jesus lifetime that rejected these books and Jesus did not correct them.

[@xDanMEH]

Thanks man :)

[@bigzack1011]

The thief on the cross? Luke 23:42-43 King James Version (KJV) 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise. (Heaven) What works did he do? Matthew 27:51 King James Version (KJV) 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; (NO MORE WORKS TO DO CHRIST DID IT ALL) NOW REST IN HIM. G.B.U.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Faith without works is dead.

[@Eric0873]

Yikes! I sure wouldn't want to be the guy who stood before God and said, "Uh, I'd like some credit for my salvation too!!" You might want to reconsider your soteriological stance! The only working we should be doing will be out of a gratitude for God saving us by His grace alone. No, I'm not thoroughly convinced on OSAS. I do know that folks can willfully reject Christ after their professed conversion; but then were they ever really saved to begin with?

[@danielmoore4849]

Faith alone is NOT enough? " For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law." -Romans 3:28

[@100PercentCatholic]

Apocrypha was not added to canon by Catholics until 1546. Absolutely false. The Latin Vulgate - the official bible of the Catholic Church - which was translated by St. Jerome in the late 4th century, included those 7 books as part of its canon. The Council of Rome (382 A.D), Hippo (393AD) and Carthage (397AD) all mention these books in the Canon of the Bible, over 1,000 years before the Council of Trent. Don't believe me, look it up.

[@sandina2cents779]

That is true although the apocrypha books were always rejected by the Jews since before Christ. They did not except them as Scripture ever and so neither should we. The Jews did not except them and Jesus didn’t correct them to except them.

[@danielmoore4849]

@ nickyooo11 Note v. 34. " Before the foundation of the world," they were chosen by God an ordained to be holy ( Eph 1:4) - Predestined to be conformed to Christ image (Rom 8:29). So the good deeds commended in vv. 35,36 are the FRUIT, not the ROOT of salvation. It is true that faith without works is dead. But notice the verse...cont..

[@Hediedforme1990]

Corry ten Boom, litterally the last name translated is "At Tree". Not BOOM like an explosion :P

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

It's called the rosary because it is a beautiful rose garden of prayer and each Hail Mary is a beautiful rose. And thank God for Purgatory! Without Purgatory only perfect people could go to Heaven---see Revelation 21:27.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@Jacob Waddle No one can become perfect on their own with their own efforts. We need God's grace for that, and Jesus gained that grace for us on the cross. There is no salvation in any other than Jesus. This is why outside the Church there is no salvation, because the Catholic Church is Jesus's Church. "It is finished" meant that His suffering had finished, and that the Old Covenant had finished (see the video "The Fourth Cup" by Scott Hahn). It did not mean that Jesus's work had finished or that we are excused from doing good works of charity. If we aren't supposed to do anything, why does James 1:22 say to be doers, and not just hearers, of the word? And if Jesus did it all on the cross and our good works aren't necessary, please explain Colossinans 1:24 and Matthew 25:31-46. Purgatory does exist and 2 Maccabees 2:15, Matthew 5:25-26, Luke 12:58-59, and 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 all say that it does. Jesus's death on the cross does not give us a license to sin, even though Martin Luther said it did. Jesus's death on the cross gives a chance to emulate Jesus and become like Him---sinless and full of good works. If we do not make effort to become like Jesus we will go to Hell, no matter how much faith we have, just like the rich man in the Lazarus/rich man parable. Jesus made the down payment on our salvation but we must make the installment payments (Colossians 1:24).

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@Jacob Waddle You make many errors, Jacob, because you make the fundamental error of Protestantism, that of sola scriptura, thinking that everything got written down in the Bible and that every answer comes from the Bible. You do not seem to understand that the Bible is only one of many tools the Church uses to spread the gospel, and that many doctrines were not written down in the Bible. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and John 21:25 clearly say this. 1 Timothy 3:15 says that the Church, not the Bible, is the pillar and ground of truth. The Ethiopian at Acts 8:31, asks, how can anyone understand scripture unless some man show him? The scriptures themselves do not say that scripture is the only source for doctrine and truth. As I have shown they say the exact opposite. According to 2 Thessalonians 2:15 some doctrines are passed down in the Church by word of mouth only. Any doctrine that can be shown to be taught by the "Church fathers", Christian leaders and writers of the first few centuries, and that has been taught by the Church down through the centuries, is to be considered on a par with scripture. Are you aware that it was the Catholic Church that put the Bible together in the first place, discerning which books would go in and which ones not, at the Council of Hippo, 393 a.d.? Trying to go by scripture and scripture alone is a recipe for disaster. The scriptures say many things that are subject to interpretation. Is "this is my body, this is my blood" to be interpreted literally? How about "call no man father" or "if your eye offend the pluck it out" or "call no man teacher" or Jesus's instruction to the steward to falsify records? How can we interpret these things, without the authoriive voice of the Catholic Church? And what about all the contradictions in scripture---the two different genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke, the different accounts of how many women went to Jesus's tomb, the different accounts of Paul's conversion, whether Jesus died at noon or 3 p.m., whether Jesus died on the Passover or the day before, Jesus saying that before Abraham "I am" versus Jesus saying "the Father is greater than I" (is Jesus just a man or God Incarnate), Matthew 23:31-46 andJames 2:24-26 versus Ephesians 2:8-9 (are good works necessary for salvation or not?), Matthew 28:19 versus Acts 2:38, and on and on and on. 2 Peter 3:16 says that in scripture many things are difficult to understand, and that unlearned and unstable people wrest with it to their destruction. I do not accuse you of instability but we all are unlearned----no one person understands all of scripture, all of the cultural and historical references, and nuances, which things are literal and which things figurative. "Oh, I know the Bible means, the Holy Spirit tells me directly" won't work-----this approach has produced thousands of Protestant denominations, each one teaching something different than the one down the street. "Let scripture interpret scripture" is a little better, but who has the total and exhaustive knowledge of scripture to do this? And until the 1400s and 1500s most people couldn't read anyway, and even if they could they couldn't afford Bibles. (Prior to the invention of the printing press Bibles had to be hand copied and one single Bible would cost the average worker a year's salary. ) So what is the solution to all this? The solution is the Catholic Church and the teaching authority Jesus gave to her when He founded her. The remarkable thing is that century after century goes by and core Catholic doctrines remain the same. They remain the same because they are true. The remain the same because they are infallible, infallibility being a gift Jesus gave the Church. They remain the same because Jesus promised the church, when He founded her, that He would stay with her always. Put aside your human opinions and human interpretations and embrace the Church Jesus founded.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@Jacob Waddle But the Bible is not the yardstick and final authority----the Church is! According to 1 Timothy 3:15 the Church, not the Bible, is the pillar and ground of truth. The Bible is only one of many tools the Church uses to spread the gospel and teach the word. Verses that say nothing should be added or subtracted "to this book" refer to copyists, admonishing them to be careful in copying sacred books, taking care not to add or delete anything, whether by neglect or design. It does not refer to the Church's authority to add books to the Bible and it does not refer to the Church's Oral Tradition----the Oral Tradition being those teachings the Church has that did not make it into the Bible----teachings referred to to 2 Thessalonians 2:15. If the Church lacked the authority to add books to the Bible, how could the Church, at the Council of Rome in 382 a.d., added 27 Christian writings to the Septuagint Old Testament to produce the Christian Bible? The Church's teachings on indulgences, homosexuality, and preaching the gospel have not changed. The Church still issues indulgences but has not sold them since 1567. The Church condemns homosexual sex as an abomination crying to Heaven. The Church sees her mission as a light in the world that exists to spread the gospel throughout the world. Pope Francis may say otherwise but the Church as an institution continues to teach the same doctrines, century after century.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@Jacob Waddle Two things you have to keep in mind about papal infallibility: (1) the pope cannot introduce new doctrine, he can only re-iterate what the doctrine has always been. If Pope Francis says that homosexual sex is okay, or that there is no Hell, or that people shouldn't evangelize, or that God wills that there be different religions, or that Jesus did not really multiply the loaves and fishes-----all things Francis has said since becoming Pope----then he is not speaking infallibly because all of the above are contrary to what the Church has taught down through the centuries. (2) The pope is only infallible if he is speaking to the whole Church and commanding the whole Church to ascent. This is rarely done. It was only done four times in the twentieth century, once in the nineteenth, and none so far this century. We should properly see the Church as being the infallible teacher, the Church as an institution, and only count those doctrines that have always been held as being the infallible doctrines of the Church, and the pope as being infallible only because he is the visible head of the Church, Jesus being the invisible head of the Church. If any Catholic person, ,lay, priest, or pope, or any Catholic document from any council or any time in history, says such-and-such is the infallible teaching of the Church, ask yourself is this what the Church always taught down through the centuries? If the answer is no then it is not an infallible statement.

[@bigzack1011]

New International Version (NIV) Dead to Sin, Alive in Christ Romans 6:6 1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Romans 6:14 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:15 Slaves to Righteousness 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! NO WORKS WILL GET YOU INTO HEAVEN

[@Eric0873]

"Your bible is not the same book as my Bible." That's clear since you are pushing a heretical idea of Purgatory. Btw, I don't follow Martin Luther. While he's made amicable contributions to Christianity, he's not my Savior. (not that you said he was) "Purgartory is to cleanse the sins from you before entrance to heaven..." So the sinless life, propitiatory death and the ressurection of Christ only pays in part?? That's ludicrous!! Please read al of Romans 1,2,3. and 1 John 2

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Jesus death in the cross will wash away our sins, but only if we repent of them. Most people never repent of their smaller sins---most people don't even know what they all are---and I mean good sincere Christians too. That's why Purgatory exists. Remember nothing undefined can enter the Kingdom of God (Revelation 21:27). There are a small number of Christians who have, with the Lord's grace, advanced so far in the spiritual life that they have repented of, and given up, all their minor faults and failings. These will go straight to Heaven when they pass this life. For biblical proofs for Purgatory see 2 Maccabees 12:43-46, Matthew 5:25-26, Luke 12:58-59, and 1 Corinthians 3:13-15.

[@100PercentCatholic]

Pope Damasus urged Jerome to not break tradition and keep books in Bible. From the time of Jesus, Christians have been using the Septuagint version of the Old Testament (a Greek translation made in Alexandria), which contains these books. This is evident in the fact that the majority of the Old Testament quotes in the New Testament are from the Septuagint. This proves that the Septuagint was widely accepted and very important to the earliest Christians from the time of Jesus

[@boughtwithblood7]

@ Joe Mommuh Just read the book of James for yourself. Read it slowly, carefully, and thoughtfully. Understand that James himself calls Salvation a gift (vv. 1:17,18). Read the whole book, in context, while comparing it with the rest of the New Testament. James does not contradict the doctrine of salvation by faith alone. You will see that it actually compliments it. So don't go on a tangent about what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. It's a man made religion that exalts man instead of God.

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

That is not what Scripture says. The Catholic Church has been around for 2000 years. How long has your church been around?

[@Darth_Vader258]

Protestants make God a God of Wrath and NOT ❤. But Catholics portray God as a God of ❤ and not a God of Wrath since there is a Purgatory. Since it is WRITTEN in the Scriptures "NO UNCLEAN thing shall enter Heaven." There is a DIFFERENCE between BIG sins and SMALL sins, a BIG sin is called Mortal Sin which SEPARATES us from God, while a SMALL sin is Venial Sin which WOUNDS our relationship with God. That's why I'm a Roman Catholic because I RECEIVE the Real Presence, of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist. Even though we have DIFFERENCE in our beliefs God bless you Brother Ray, and KEEP preaching the Gospel.

[@thesilverchair56]

@bigzack1011 - Thanks for responding. Sorry, but I do not agree with your interpretation of scripture on 1 Cor. 3:11-15. You overlooked the "though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire."

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

We really shouldn't have our own private interpretations of scripture, should we, in the light of 2 Peter 1:20? We instead should go by the Church's interpretation, and the Church from the earliest centuries has interpreted this passage as referring to Purgatory. St. Augustine said it was about Purgatory. Thank God for Purgatory. Without it only perfect people could go to Purgatory (Revelation 21:27).

[@Eric0873]

Sorry, Joe, but God will not share the credit for the salvation of one life into eternity. It will always be by His grace alone, thru faith alone in Jesus Christ alone who was revealed in Scripture alone, all for the glory of God alone! THAT is why the Protestant Reformation was so important and indicting upon the Catholic Church. I would urge you to reconsider your stance with Catholicism!

[@lolambatia14]

Do you have any references? They are using the Bible just as you are "referring" to the Bible. I don't understand why you are against them if they are using the Bible such as you. They are using the Bible against your catechism. Truth (God's Word; perfect) in comparison to the catechism (from man who is imperfect).

[@joemommuh2565]

Oh, excuse me, it was the whole book of John. My mistake.

[@melanierabe8794]

No it does not mean jesus is not good enough in his death. You need to be purified. You are twisting. And makes stuff up. Yes he paid it in full. He opened the gates of heaven so we dont go to hell. Purgatory has absolutely nothing to do with jesus death not being enough. You are not understanding at all. His death opened the gates so we could enter heaven but we cna not enter unclean. Full of sin. There is still punishment for our sins even though we are forgiven.

[@bigzack1011]

Good stuff :-)

[@pberndt33]

Agree bobby. This is dangerous teaching ie Sins forgiven past present and future once and for all without taking into context other scripture. If thats the case, then why did Christ give the authority of forgiveness of sins to the Apostles in the upper room? He knew we would commit serious sin even when believing in him and gave us confession.

[@angieskidney]

Exactly!

[@bigzack1011]

Romans 8:29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. Romans 8:30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. Ephesians 1:5 he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will-

[@danielmoore4849]

@ nickyooo11 you understand nothing about biblical regeneration. Nothing you do can contribute to your salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-9. If you add ANYTHING to God's grace, you diminish the work of the Cross. The Roman Catholic sacraments cannot save you. If you believe they can, then you are still under God's wrath. When a person is regenerated, they do not want to sin anymore. They still do, but they are saved by God's grace. it is not a license to sin because the desires have changed.

[@leahstoobe]

TWWWIIIITTTTEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

[@danielmoore4849]

@ nickyooo11 are you going to ignore (Rom 3:28) and (Eph 2:8,9), or are you saying that God's Word has contradictions in it?

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Romans 3:28 and Ephesians 2:8-9 refer to the Levitical laws and the works of the Levitical laws (circumcision, no pork, animal sacrifice, etc.) Jesus repealed those laws at Luke 16:16 and obeying them now does us no good. But good works of charity are still required, as Matthew 25:31-46 and James 2:26 command, and obedience to the ten commandments is also still required, as John 14:15 and Luke 16:17 say. For those of you who love to wuote Ephesians 2:8-9, read what verse 10 says.

[@sandina2cents779]

George Penton verse 10 says that we were made to do good works. That has nothing to do with how we are saved. How we are saved is addressed in eight and nine. Because we are saved, because we are his church we do good works, not to be saved. Otherwise we could boast, or brag that we had something to do with our salvation and we don’t apart from faith, like scripture says.

[@bigzack1011]

Good One :-)

[@germurtagh7288]

Without purgatory no one goes to heaven unless you're a saint

[@darm1959]

We are saints 😊 thank you Jesus!

[@joemommuh2565]

Hebrew traditions have nothing to do with Christianity. Check your facts, and your context. Paul was just a man. Martin Luther was a man. The whole Bible was written by man, inspired by God. So yes, I guess man must be in control, because I don't think that God is physically on the Earth every second guiding our worship. Where in the Bible does it talk about religious internet shows? Does that make this whole thing sacrilegious?

[@sandina2cents779]

Joe Mommuh Hebrew traditions have nothing to do with Christianity? Do you know where the Christian religion came from? Hebrew speaking Jews.

[@bigzack1011]

(3) Shall we go on with this nonsense.about Purgatory ?

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Thank God for Purgatory. Without it only perfect people could go to Heaven (Revelation 21:27).

[@joemommuh2565]

Matthew 12:32 says, “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” There are two major points in this scripture. 1) some sins are not forgiven 2) If there is an age to come where sins are NOT forgiven, there must be a place where sins ARE forgiven. In Hell there is no liberation, and in Heaven you must be perfected, so this Scripture is referring to a third place.

[@Sarah-qz4bq]

Someone argued with me that the Catholic religion is the only way because it's the oldest religion.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

The Catholic Church is the oldest Church but it is not the One True Church because of that. It is the One True Church because she was founded by Jesus, and Jesus promised go stay with her until the end of time. The Catholic Church is the mystical body of Christ, the mystival bride of Christ, and the pillar and ground of truth. Thos is why outside the Church there is no salvation.

[@sandina2cents779]

George Penton well you’re just spreading your lies all over the place. Do you know that the Jewish religion, which Christianity came from, goes all the way back to Adam and creation?So the Jewish religion would be the oldest.

[@madelinemcnicholas1191]

@@sandina2cents779 1. The Jewish "Religion" is not nor was it ever a Church. 2. No, it does not date back to Adam. 3. It is NOT the oldest anything. Judaism dates back only to the 5th Century BC. You can hardly call others liars if you are not aware of the history you are quoting yourself.

[@bigzack1011]

Yup : -)

[@bigzack1011]

Purgatory, Where in the Bible?

[@LyGlynay]

Macabeus (Old Testament) Torah and Catholic Bible

[@sandina2cents779]

LyGlynay maccabees was never recognized by the Jews as old testament scripture. It is not in the Torah or in the New Testament anywhere.

[@bigzack1011]

Amen :-)

[@DavidGriffin]

I guess Jesus forgot all about purgatory.

[@jesuschrististruth3731]

David Griffin i see the pun.

[@melanierabe8794]

Haha it is biblical Purge and other words explain purgatory. . Y0u dont know the words in jesus time they used